Cloning a harddisk with Norton Ghost 2002
Hans Gruber
If this posting is inappropriate for this group,
please advise.
I am having a problem cloning a hard disk drive
locally (on the same machine). The clone's pupose
is simply to repalce a smaller hard disk with a bigger one
(9GB -> 40GB).
I am having a hard time to do so.
The source hard disk drive (the 9GB one) has two partitions:
It contains Win98SE and Windows 2000 in a dual-boot configuration.
The Win98se partition is FAT32 (of course) while the Windows 2000
partition is NTFS 5.0
Every time I clone the disk, the clone (on the target drive, 40GB) seems
to be functional at first, but the Windows 2000 OS gets corrupted,
while the Win98 OS is fine. I start up Windows 2000, and get the error
message about the paging file (virtual memory) missing or being too small.
I can click "OK" in that error window, but the same window just keeps popping
up every time I do so, ad infinitum. Is there a way to successfully clone a configuration
like that dual-boot one? Perhaps I am missing something.
Thanks for any comments,
happy holidays,
Hans Gruber
Dan G
set on the NTFS partition. It should be set to "everybody", or to the
appropriate users and "system".
Incidentally, Drive Image will do this operation very well and will re-size
the partitions for you. I think Ghost 2003 is more NTFS friendly as well.
"Hans Gruber" <hanz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Hans Gruber
> The paging file error is usually due to not having the correct permissions
> set on the NTFS partition. It should be set to "everybody", or to the
> appropriate users and "system".
>
> Incidentally, Drive Image will do this operation very well and will re-size
> the partitions for you. I think Ghost 2003 is more NTFS friendly as well.
>
That doesn't quite make sense to me.
The cloned drive is supposed to contain an exact duplicate
of the source drive's content. I fully expected Windows 2000
to start up without incident (I have not made any changes to the machine
hardware or BIOS settings-wise whatsoever).
Now, that Ghost 2002 doesn't properly handle NTFS 5.0 (the version
that is part of Windows 2000) is not understandable. After all, Windows 2000
has been on the market and is an established OS, for years now.
I would understand if it didn't properly support NTFS 5.1 (the version of Win XP).
Ok, do you happen to know another third-party software package that is free
(as in freeware) or a trial version, since I cannot afford to obtain a license for another
software
package right now. A fully functional trial version would be perfect, as I only need to
clone
a disk once.
Thanks for replying,
Hans Gruber.
Happy Holidays.
Michael C
If you boot to the recovery console, you'll probably find upon
typing
map
that your drive letters aren't what you expect.
For more info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;249321
HTH
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Michael C.
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Hans Gruber
> typing
>
> map
>
> that your drive letters aren't what you expect.
>
> For more info:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;249321
>
> HTH
Hello Michael,
I don't see why the drive letters should be different.
I have not changed anything, not in the least.
This is how it used to be:
ECS K7SEM mainboard
IDE channel 1 master: 9GB HDD, ATA33
IDE channel 1 slave: n/a
IDE channel 2 master: Lite-On 32x CD-RW
IDE channel 2 slave: n/a
first partition: Windows 98SE FAT32, 1.2 GB
second partition: Windows 2000 NTFS, ~ 7GB
thrid partition: Windows 2000, 8MB (automatically generated by Win2k setup)
the drives capacity of 9GB (8.4 GB formatted) is completely
designated for use (no "unpartitioned" space)
For this cloning operation, I temporarily disconnected the CD-RW and connected
a brand new 40GB ATA100 hard disk drive in its place. I then proceeded
to boot the Ghost 2002 floppy, cloned the disk, removed the 9GB disk and put the CD-RW
back on where it used to be. Please note that at *no point in time* did
I start Windows between the physical hard disk- swap. So, theoratically,
I should have an *identical* system, as it was before, with the only exception
that the Windows 2000 partition on the *new* drive doesn't span the rest of the
new disks capacity, like on the 9GB drive. So now there's just that big "unpartitioned"
space
on the 40gb drive.
I did start on the recovery console, and the drive letters are the same.
I am still stumped.
Thanks,
Hans Gruber.
Happy Holidays.
Michael C
[snip]
> I did start on the recovery console, and the drive letters are the same.
> I am still stumped.
Well, it was a thought anyhow.
As a LAST resort I'd try an in place upgrade, but I'd definitely double
check permissions first.
>
> Thanks,
> Hans Gruber.
>
> Happy Holidays.
Thanks and Good Luck,
MT
Looks like the answer to your problem
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ghost.nsf/97dacc5430d93f2d85256aa300536
849/0cc4e65072ca7ea8882569cb00812067?OpenDocument&sone=ghost_2002_tasks.html
&stg=3&prod=Norton%20Ghost&ver=2002%20for%20Windows%202000/NT/Me/98/XP&base=
http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/ghost/&next=ghost_2002_contact_tscs_solve.h
tml&src=sg&pcode=ghost&svy=
Error: "Pagefile.sys is too small or does not exist" when starting the
computer
Situation:
You used Ghost to clone from one disk on a computer to another disk on the
same computer. You start the computer with both Primary bootable disks in
the system and everything appears to function normally. When you remove the
cloned destination drive and then start the computer, you see the message
"Pagefile.sys is too small or does not exist."
If you reinstall the drive, the computer starts without this message.
Solution:
This problem may occur after booting into a Windows 2000 system with both
the source and cloned drives still installed. The operating system does not
properly handle the situation of having two primary hard drives attached.
Symantec recommends that the cloned hard drive be removed before rebooting
the computer. In the meantime, one of the following workarounds might
resolve the problem.
a.. Run SysPrep on the computer before performing the Disk to Disk clone.
See the document How to use SysPrep with Ghost.
a.. Use the -FDSP switch when performing the Disk to Disk clone, and then
remove the target drive from the computer after cloning but before
restarting the computer. The -FDSP switch prevents Ghost from automatically
forcing a disk initialization, which Ghost does by default when imaging a
Windows 2000 disk.
a.. If you are performing this procedure to backup the contents of the
source disk, perform a Disk to Image operation instead of Disk to Disk. This
saves an image of the source disk as a file on the destination disk.
b.. This problem sometimes happens when the original file Pagefile.sys is
corrupt. To resolve the problem after cloning, delete the file and allow
Windows to recreate it:
1. Start the computer into the Windows 2000 Recovery Console. This
allows you to access both NTFS and FAT partitions.
2. Locate the file Pagefile.sys. By default, the file is located in the
root of the drive on which Windows is installed. If it is not on that drive,
search the root of other drives on the computer.
3. Delete Pagefile.sys.
4. Run Check Disk with the /r parameter:
chkdsk /r
5. Restart the computer. Windows recreates the file.
a.. If you see the problem after upgrading the source computer from
Windows 98 to Windows 2000, you may be able to prevent the problem by
installing Windows 2000 directly, rather than as an upgrade.
More information
Windows 2000 uses the file Pagefile.sys to store temporary information that
does not fit into the computers Random Access Memory (RAM). This file is
commonly known as the swap file, or virtual memory.
"Michael C" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Dan G
the fix is. I can only say that I have never had it happen with drive image.
Partition Magic is another great tool than can perform the job, as well as
partitioning tasks. As for Ghost not playing well with NTFS, I refer you to
Symantec, but it does not.
"Hans Gruber" <hanz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Fishface
> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ghost.nsf/97dacc5430d93f2d85256aa300536
> 849/0cc4e65072ca7ea8882569cb00812067?OpenDocument&sone=ghost_2002_tasks.html
> &stg=3&prod=Norton%20Ghost&ver=2002%20for%20Windows%202000/NT/Me/98/XP&base=
> http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/ghost/&next=ghost_2002_contact_tscs_solve.h
> tml&src=sg&pcode=ghost&svy=
Holy crap, oh my God that is one link!!
FF
Zilla
drive) NTFS? Ghost 2002 will not support cloning
"to" and NTFS partition/drive. Ghost 2003 does.
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"Hans Gruber" <hanz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Fishface
> Holy crap, oh my God that is one link!!
How about this, instead:
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ghost.nsf/docid/2001010515340025
Simple is good...
Hans Gruber
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> Is the drive you're trying to clone "to" (destination
> drive) NTFS? Ghost 2002 will not support cloning
> "to" and NTFS partition/drive. Ghost 2003 does.
>
> --
> - Zilla
> (Remove XSPAM)
I explained the configuration of the "source" drive
in an earlier post. The target drive contains no partitions
at all. It is just one big unpartitioned device.
I am "cloning" an entire disk onto another mass storage device.
Why should 2002 not be able to handle this. NTFS 5 (Windows 2000)
has been around for years now.
Dan G
ghost 2002 is not NTFS friendly.
There are several free disc-copy utilities available from the drive makers,
WD and Maxtor both have them for download.
"Hans Gruber" <hanz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Hans Gruber
> Again, your question is best referred to Symantec. the fact remains the
> ghost 2002 is not NTFS friendly.
Yes, this fact has finally sunk in here. Thanks for your
constructive comments.
> There are several free disc-copy utilities available from the drive makers,
> WD and Maxtor both have them for download.
Hey, I don't know why I didn't think of that myself. Thanks, again.
Hans Gruber
and those who just read my post.
My gratitude,
and a happy holidays for all you chaps,
Hans Gruber