Visual Objects 2.7 development statusreport

[Ed Richard]

At CttM 2003, held in Papendal, The Netherlands May 19th and 20th GrafXSoft
gave some valuable insight in what will be Visual Objects 2.7. Robert van
der Hulst, member of the development team presented a 90 minute session
about the new version, where things are going and gave a sneak preview into
the near future as far as Visual Objects is concerned.

The usual disclaimer should be applied, GrafX could decide to change spec's
or implement things differently according to their needs.

Follow this link to go directly to the article:
http://www.sdgn.nl/Default.asp?A1PID=57PDGUH&A1SID=2712516200359&URL=1168PSXX

Ed Richard
SDGN

[Herbert Putz]

Ed,

thanks for this status report.

Herbert

[Stephane Hebert]

Ed,

Thanks for keeping us up to date.

Steph

"Ed Richard" <e.d.Richard_No@Spam_Chello.nl> wrote in message
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[Jean-Yves]

Thanks Ed.

[Joze Stensak]

Very good.
Especialy because of this statment: The 3.0 version will facilitate two
development platforms: Windows 32-bit .EXE's and Microsoft .NET applications
or components.
But I found this article on DevCon CD disk VOWHITE.DOC where is word about
java where talk about:
"Some time should be spent researching the possibility of compiling
CA-Visual Objects code directly into a JAVA p-code stream. The ability for
the CA-Visual Objects compiler to produce Java p-code would directly address
the lack of multi-platform support in CA-Visual Objects."

Why java? Mybe because I read this article:
http://java.about.com/cs/technologies/a/matrix_reloaded.htm

any comments?

"Ed Richard" <e.d.Richard_No@Spam_Chello.nl> wrote in message
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[Victor. d'Hoop]

Good to know,
I can hardly wait !!

Victor

[Saulo Rodrigues]

Hi Ed,

This seems good! Is there a forecast on how much the version updating will
co$t? Honestly, I believe the people that are still in the old version (my
case) will prefer to go directly to the new version.

TIA,
Saulo
Rio - Brazil

[Marc Verkade]

Hai,

I do not know much about marketing stuff, but I can imagine that:
going from 2.5b3 to 2.6 to 2.7 will be cheaper than going from 2.5b3 to
2.7...
going from 2.0 to 2.6 to 2.7 will be cheaper than going from 2.0 to 2.7...
I think VO 2.7 will always be cheaper than a prof Delphi licence!
But hey.. I am not Brian.....

<My Opinion>
When you are a prof VO-developer, this is the change to support your
moneymaker.. And buy 2.6!
I can not believe there are people still using 2.0...... (or even 1.0)...
2.6 is so much improved compared to those!
</My Opinion>

Grtz, Marc

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[Ginny Caughey]

Marc,

Well said!

--
Ginny

"Marc Verkade" <ma...@NOmartiSPAM.nl> wrote in message
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[Saulo Rodrigues]

Hi Marc,

> I do not know much about marketing stuff, but I can imagine that:
> going from 2.5b3 to 2.6 to 2.7 will be cheaper than going from 2.5b3 to
> 2.7...
> going from 2.0 to 2.6 to 2.7 will be cheaper than going from 2.0 to 2.7...
> I think VO 2.7 will always be cheaper than a prof Delphi licence!
> But hey.. I am not Brian.....
>
> <My Opinion>
> When you are a prof VO-developer, this is the change to support your
> moneymaker.. And buy 2.6!
> I can not believe there are people still using 2.0...... (or even 1.0)...
> 2.6 is so much improved compared to those!
> </My Opinion>

Thanks for your opinion, anyway I will await the prices to compare the
benefits.

Saulo
Rio - Brazil

[Ed Richard]

I have to agree with Marc. I think when all the shops that actually use VO
buy a licence for every developer that's using it VO development would move
faster <g>. Nevertheless VO is cheap compared to some other options.

Brian indicated in Germany and England pricing would stay in-line with what
we are used to paying for VO, moving from 2.5b3 to 2.7 will atleast be as
much as going 2.5b3 > 2.6 > 2.7.

<MyOpnion>
If you ask me people that didn't go to 2.6 should pay double, but that's
just me ;-) (I am a distributor you know, it would be great to earn some
money in exchange for all the hours I spend Alpha testing).
</MyOpnion>

<g>Marc, maybe we should write an XML-schema for NG message NGML </g>

Ed

"Marc Verkade" <ma...@NOmartiSPAM.nl> wrote in message
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[Malcolm Gray]

Marc Verkade wrote:
> <My Opinion>
> When you are a prof VO-developer, this is the change to
> support your moneymaker.. And buy 2.6!
> I can not believe there are people still using 2.0...... (or
> even 1.0)...
> 2.6 is so much improved compared to those!
> </My Opinion>

We have bought 2.6 but cannot currently use it so use and buy,
are not curreently the same thing...

[Jamie Macleod]

Ed,

> <MyOpnion>
> If you ask me people that didn't go to 2.6 should pay double, but that's
> just me ;-) (I am a distributor you know, it would be great to earn some
> money in exchange for all the hours I spend Alpha testing).
> </MyOpnion>

I'm no marketing guru, but I don't think punishing VO developers who didn't
upgrade by charging them double is a great option. There are many upgrade
schemes out there, but this is usually not one of them. There may be many
reasons why developers didn't upgrade other than just not wanting to support
for Grafx. I think "encouraging" developers to upgrade is a better approach
what ever version they are currently using.

Jamie

[Marc Verkade]

Not use it???
Why?

"Malcolm Gray" <malcol...@jobstream.co.uk> schreef in bericht
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[Ginny Caughey]

Jamie,

On the other hand, setting a precedent that skipping versions is cheaper than
staying current, or punishing VO supporters who do upgrade each time, is not
necessarily a smart tactic either. In any case, sales of 2.6 have already funded
development of 2.7 according to Brian, so anything from now on helps fund 3.0 -
pretty sweet!

--
Ginny

"Jamie Macleod" <pocket...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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[Ed Richard]

Hi Jamie,
I understand your point, but I agree with Ginny.

You did get I was a bit sarcastic :-)

We'll just have to wait and see what Brian comes up with, knowing Brian I
know it's going to be an honest deal.

Ed

"Jamie Macleod" <pocket...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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[Karl Faller]

Joze,

>the CA-Visual Objects compiler to produce Java p-code would directly address
>the lack of multi-platform support in CA-Visual Objects."

Sort of deja vu? Remember the mess Vo1 was? And why? Because they
wanted multi-platform, but, being CA, stopped half way...
Karl

[Ginny Caughey]

Karl,

Halfway is about as far as you can get unless you go the route that Borland did.
Of course VO1 was even less than half-way because even though the horrible GUI
classes were theoretically multi-platform, nothing else was.

--
Ginny

"Karl Faller" <10072...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
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[Jamie Macleod]

Ginny,

But it wouldn't be punishing those who buy every upgrade, since they are
getting the use of the upgrade. Those who skip aren't. Disclaimer: I'm
biased since I didn't upgrade to 2.6 <g>. If I get penalized to much I
probably won't upgrade to 2.7 either. My new work is mostly in C# .Net. My
2.5 stuff is working okay for now and I can't see a real pressing need to
upgrade other than to support VO.

Jamie

"Ginny Caughey" <ginny....@wasteworks.com> wrote in message
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[Bob Newton]

Jamie,

Ditto......what you said.

I bought the 2.6 upgrade but have never used it. I have no compelling
reason to move to 2.6 or above. All my new work is in C#. I still try to
keep in touch with VO but only for supporting a legacy app. VO 2.5b-3 works
for me and my users "as is". I've already worked around the VO 2.5b-3 bugs
and I am sure as *(..U!!! not going to do that again with another upgrade.
Thanks but no thanks.

"Jamie Macleod" <pocket...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message

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[Jamie Macleod]

Bob,

Sadly the VO upgrades are WAY to little WAY to late. I think there will be
more and more developers like you and me soon. C# .Net is just to nice.

Jamie

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[Malcolm Gray]

Marc Verkade wrote:
> Not use it???
> Why?

Our app wont start and we cannot get a handle on why.

[RPSoftware]

Ed,

I am happy that VO 2.7 is not almost a reality and 3.0 is on the roadmap.

Now, can talk what VO logo shall be?

Anyway, I am serious VO developers with two very large VO apps in the market
today. VO is very important to my business.

--

Regards,

Rene J. Pajaron
RPSoftware
Philippines

www.rpsoftware.cdo.ph

"Ed Richard" <e.d.Richard_No@Spam_Chello.nl> wrote in message
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> At CttM 2003, held in Papendal, The Netherlands May 19th and 20th
GrafXSoft
> gave some valuable insight in what will be Visual Objects 2.7. Robert van
> der Hulst, member of the development team presented a 90 minute session
> about the new version, where things are going and gave a sneak preview
into
> the near future as far as Visual Objects is concerned.
>
> The usual disclaimer should be applied, GrafX could decide to change
spec's
> or implement things differently according to their needs.
>
>
>
> Follow this link to go directly to the article:
>

[Ginny Caughey]

Jamie,

I love C# too (and wish VO had some of those language features), but I still
make most of my money from VO apps at the moment, so I'm very interested in the
continuing work Brian's team is doing. I intend to continue to purchase upgrades
to VO as long as I have users running VO apps - I feel I owe it to them.

--
Ginny

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[richard townsend-rose, tdoc]

Malcolm

Just do it - try a clean import, touching after each lib, and import
them IN ORDER: I used to have this with VO1 sometimes.

Adriano sorted all our stuff into a nice logical order, which was
great.
To get over the obvious order problem, we renames everything including
bBrowser, (GridPro before) and ReportPro. bBrowser is now
12a_bDefines, etc - sorry Joachim - but it really does make life
easier.
Makes upgrading libraries a pain in the neck...

richard t-r

[Malcolm Gray]

richard townsend-rose, tdoc wrote:
> Malcolm
>
> Just do it - try a clean import, touching after each lib, and
> import them IN ORDER: I used to have this with VO1 sometimes.

Oh we have done that many times (and also equivalents,
we use the SDK to build up from prgs and some other custom bits).
The problem seems to be that one of our DLLs GPFs as soon as we
call any function or method in it (yet it includes the error handler
that is used to report the problem).

[usenet]

Ed Richard wrote:
[...]

Follow this link to go directly to the article:
http://www.sdgn.nl/Default.asp?A1PID=57PDGUH&A1SID=2712516200359&URL=1168PSXX

"[...]One of the main tasks the team has done over the past few months is porting almost all of the code to C++ version 7.1 (using Visual Studio 2003). For VO users this means the code is much more optimized and all relevant warnings and errors have been removed.[...]"

Which compiler was used prior to C++ 7.1 ?

[usenet]

Ed Richard wrote:
[...]

Follow this link to go directly to the article:
http://www.sdgn.nl/Default.asp?A1PID=57PDGUH&A1SID=2712516200359&URL=1168PSXX

"[...] Robert demonstrated lot’s of small improvements like prefixing the code generated by the Automation Server Code Generation Tool,[...]"

Are the prefixes really so important? I would like to see that the generated code supports EventHandling.

[usenet]

Malcolm Gray wrote:

>We have bought 2.6 but cannot currently use it so use and buy,
>are not curreently the same thing...
>

What is the reason, that you cannot currently use VO2.6?

[RPSoftware]

Opps. I got my finger stuck....

> I am happy that VO 2.7 is not almost a reality and 3.0 is on the roadmap.

should be

I am happy that VO 2.7 is NOW almost a reality and 3.0 is on the roadmap.

--

Regards,

Rene J. Pajaron
RPSoftware
Philippines

www.rpsoftware.cdo.ph
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[Ginny Caughey]

"usenet",

C 5.

--
Ginny

"usenet" <vo...@null.com> wrote in message news:3ED380AF...@null.com...

[Willie Moore]

Usenet,

 

I would suggest that you do a little reading and you could add in the EventHandling. I believe that COMSDK has examples showing how to implement it. as does VO2ADO. VO has all the low level stuff there. you just have to do a little writting. Please do not assume that because it is not in the base product, VO doesnt support it.

 

Regards,

 

Willie

"usenet" <vo...@null.com> wrote in message news:3ED37BF6...@null.com...

[usenet]

Willie Moore wrote:

Usenet,

 

I would suggest that you do a little reading and you could add in the EventHandling.

you 'suggest'

I believe that COMSDK has examples showing how to implement it.

you 'believe'

as does VO2ADO.

you 'compare'

VO has all the low level stuff there. you just have to do a little writting.

you 'declare'

Please do not assume that because it is not in the base product, VO doesnt support it.

i do not assume.

i know:
VO:
- has no native support for handling events in Automation-Servers.
- documentation ignores(!) the existence of Events in Automation-Servers

COMSDK (the 3rd-party-solution):
- is a difficult solution with much hand-coding
- has documentation that is out-of-sync with the code
- has no updates available online

-

Other people are aware o this limitations / weaknesses.

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ab81c1%24fdet1%241%40ID-61886.news.dfncis.de

-

There are 'work-arounds'. There are 'talk-arounds'. And there are solutions.

I prefere solutions.

[Erik Visser]

Hey Useless,

The comsdk comes with a very easy sample and a goudeline how to implement events. Even for a C++ programmer this must be a 'can be done'

I know nothing about C++, but on the CttM there was this C++ programmer who is going to use VO for his Com objects because they are so easely wrtitten with VO ( in stead of in C++)

 

So i think this is the same for events.

All you need is there.

 

Another point. Perhaps you have noticed we all use out own names in this newgroup. I think you sould do the same.

 

Erik VIsser

 

"usenet" <vo...@null.com> schreef in bericht news:3ED74A0A...@null.com...

[Marcos Nogueira]

Geoff,

I've noticed your absence in this and in other threads that you usually
wouldn't miss at all... Are you still there? Or perhaps you've dumped VO?

Best regards,

Marcos Nogueira
S. Paulo - Brazil

PS: I thought you were a member of the development team :-) MN

[Ginny Caughey]

Marcos,

I think Geoff was in the Netherlands at the conference there. Don't worry about
Geoff's committment to VO - I've been trying to get him into C# for a while now
with no success. <BG>

--
Ginny

"Marcos Nogueira" <mar...@arenainformatica.com.br> wrote in message
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[usenet]

Erik Visser wrote:

Hey Useless,

?

The comsdk comes with a very easy sample and a goudeline how to implement events. Even for a C++ programmer this must be a 'can be done'

once more:

"
COMSDK (the 3rd-party-solution):
- is a difficult solution with much hand-coding
- has documentation that is out-of-sync with the code
- has no updates available online
"

this is not a solution.

I know nothing about C++, but on the CttM there was this C++ programmer who is going to use VO for his Com objects because they are so easely wrtitten with VO ( in stead of in C++)

i'm happy, that this guy find his way.

he was lucky, that he don't have to contact an external Automation Server.

 So i think this is the same for events.

it's not.

Writing COM objects is supported excellent in VO (although i don't know about the quality / compatibility. but the process is straightforward and simple).

Accessing COM Automation-Servers Events is a pain.

COMSDK is a "stopped-in-the-middle"-developement. where is the update?

All you need is there.

 

Another point. Perhaps you have noticed we all use out own names in this newgroup. I think you sould do the same.

feel free to think this.

 Erik VIsser

[Marcos Nogueira]

Ginny,

> I think Geoff was in the Netherlands at the conference there. Don't worry
about
> Geoff's committment to VO - I've been trying to get him into C# for a
while now
> with no success. <BG>

Uffff! <VBG>

Marcos

[Ed Ratcliffe]

Sir,

 

>>feel free to think this.

 

Eric's suggestion was polite and correct. If also feel that one should put their real name on their postings on this ng. If you feel comfortable NOT doing so then please forgive us if we feel comfortable NOT answering your questions.

 

____________________________
Ed Ratcliffe @ Gryphon Systems

[usenet]

Ed Ratcliffe wrote:

Sir,

 

>>feel free to think this.

 

Eric's suggestion was polite and correct. If also feel that one should put their real name on their postings on this ng.

I see.

This sounds like... netiquette!

If you feel comfortable NOT doing so then please forgive us if we feel comfortable NOT answering your questions.

Don't worry.

I'll forgive you.

[Ed Ratcliffe]

> This sounds like... netiquette!

 

No sir, just common courtesy between people of like interest.

 

--

[usenet]

Ed Ratcliffe wrote:

> This sounds like... netiquette!

 

No sir, just common courtesy between people of like interest.

This sounds, again, like netiquette!

[Mark Cooper]

Erik,

Bravo. Well said.

>Another point. Perhaps you have noticed we all use out own
>names in this newgroup. I think you sould do the same.

Many of us also identify our location and company affiliation.

--

Mark L. Cooper
Columbus, Ohio USA

[Mark Cooper]

Also, most of us would not hijack a thread in this manner.

[usenet]

Mark Cooper wrote:

>Also, most of us would not hijack a thread in this manner.
>

Could you please stop your off-topic postings?

Thank you in advance.

[Phil McGuinness]

Geoff,

He was busy organising the AUssie devcon... went the SGDN in the Netherlands
and is going to the USA devcon as well. Burning CD's etc etc...

I can assure you the trip from Aus to Europe and then getting ready for a
trip from Aus to USA only 6 weeks apart does not leave a lot of spare time..
I once did exactly the same trip and it is hell on your business and your
body before and after.

I can see VO in big letters on Geoffs tombstone.. believe me he is in for
the long run.

Phil McGuinness - Sherlock Software
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[Ed Richard]

>
COMSDK (the 3rd-party-solution):
- is a difficult solution with much hand-coding
- has documentation that is out-of-sync with the code
- has no updates available online
<

 

Is a work in progress, completely written in VO and will be updated for 2.7, Devcon Attendees already have a new version that support creating COMServers with events.

 

I agree i's a lot of coding, but hey, we're coders :-) and we love it.

 

If you don't like the COMSDK, well that's your bad.

 

CU,

Ed

[Tracy Thomas]

"usenet",

You prefer solutions, yet attack those attempting to address your
questions/posts. Makes little sense to me. If you are posting questions,
what's up with the hostile attitude. I also know some things - like for
example - I know without question, Mr. Moore would have NEVER tried to
belittle you or your question and was simply attempting to help with his
reply.

If you're here to cause shit and be an asshole - no thanks - we get plenty
of that elsewhere.

The smart-ass attacks to legitimate replies with genuine intent do little
for finding solutions.

However, you are correct that each has their own style, and you are free to
excercise your own. Perhaps we can all drop our edge and get to the issues.

Regards,

Tracy

[Warren McIntyre]

> I can see VO in big letters on Geoffs tombstone.. believe me he is in for
the long run. <

Is Geoff mortal?

Warren

[usenet]

Ed Richard wrote:

>
COMSDK (the 3rd-party-solution):
- is a difficult solution with much hand-coding
- has documentation that is out-of-sync with the code
- has no updates available online
<

 

Is a work in progress, completely written in VO and will be updated for 2.7,

At least you are in-topic.

Devcon Attendees already have a new version that support creating COMServers with events.

I understand.

'Devcon Attendees' get an updated new version.

'Non Devecon Attendees' have to wait until the release of VO 2.7

I agree i's a lot of coding, but hey, we're coders :-) and we love it.

Some coders love 'coding'.

Some coders love IDE's, OOD, usability, reusability, concentrating on the creative part of programming.

If you don't like the COMSDK, well that's your bad.

If you don't like criticism, well that's your bad.

CU,

Ed

[usenet]

Tracy Thomas wrote:

>"usenet",
>
>You prefer solutions, yet attack those attempting to address your
>questions/posts.
>

'attack' => faulty interpretation

> Makes little sense to me. If you are posting questions,
>what's up with the hostile attitude.
>

'hostile attitude' => faulty interpretation

> I also know some things - like for
>example - I know without question, Mr. Moore would have NEVER tried to
>belittle you or your question and was simply attempting to help with his
>reply.
>

No comment.

>If you're here to cause shit and be an asshole - no thanks - we get plenty
>of that elsewhere.
>

I'm afraid you loose control.

>The smart-ass attacks to legitimate replies with genuine intent do little
>for finding solutions.
>

You loose control.

This is a public forum, please take care of your vocabulary.

Thank you in advance.

>However, you are correct that each has their own style, and you are free to
>excercise your own. Perhaps we can all drop our edge and get to the issues.
>

Live is short.

Be happy!

>Regards,
>
>Tracy
>

[Phil McGuinness]

snip[ Is Geoff mortal? ]

Just compiled to output as an endless loop... unless somebody presses CTRL +
ALT + DEL

Phil McGuinness - Sherlock Software
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[Gary Stark]

Phil McGuinness wrote:

> snip[ Is Geoff mortal? ]
>
> Just compiled to output as an endless loop... unless somebody presses CTRL +
> ALT + DEL

In which case you get a system error.

>
> "Warren McIntyre" <McIntyreA...@RemoveMeshaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:qu4Ca.119368$Vi5.3...@news1.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > I can see VO in big letters on Geoffs tombstone.. believe me he is in
> for
> > the long run. <
> >
> > Is Geoff mortal?
> >
> > Warren
> >
> >
> >
> >

--
g.
Gary Stark
gst...@RedbacksWeb.com
http://RedbacksWeb.com

[Johel de Souza Filho]

>>Some coders love 'coding'.

>>Some coders love IDE's, OOD, usability, reusability, concentrating on the creative part of programming.

 

Add to that that some other coders also love time-to-market, window-of-opportunity, cost control, return rate over investment, profits, healthy business...

[Willie Moore]

Usenet,

 

VO does have no built in support for COM events. But, I did not buy VO for it's built in COM. I bought it because it is very stable, and I like the class syntax of the compiler. I gave you 2 specific examples of where you could find event handling. I have not personally used COMSDK yet. I started writting COM objects before VO supported COM at all. I used and still use a prodct called VOCOM.  I know the authors of VOCOM, COMSDK, and VO2ADO. All are very good in the support category!

 

I do use VO2ADO. The pro version includes source. All version support events.

 

 

Regards,

 

Willie

[pt]

Pardon me for stating the obvious, but why not just move errorsys to the app
then in case it's trying to tell you something?

Paul
"Malcolm Gray" <malcol...@jobstream.co.uk> wrote in message
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> richard townsend-rose, tdoc wrote:
> > Malcolm
> >
> > Just do it - try a clean import, touching after each lib, and
> > import them IN ORDER: I used to have this with VO1 sometimes.
>
> Oh we have done that many times (and also equivalents,
> we use the SDK to build up from prgs and some other custom bits).
> The problem seems to be that one of our DLLs GPFs as soon as we
> call any function or method in it (yet it includes the error handler
> that is used to report the problem).
>
>

[ilias]

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"Willie Moore" <wil...@wmconsulting.com> wrote in message news:<vdlgclc...@corp.supernews.com>...

Willie Moore wrote:
> Usenet,

> VO does have no built in support for COM events.

Thank you for confirming my initial post.

> But, I did not buy VO for it's built in COM. I bought it because it is very
> stable, and I like the class syntax of the compiler.

You(!). I'm happy you(!) found your solution.

> I gave you 2 specific examples of where you could find event handling. I have
> not personally used COMSDK yet. I started writting COM objects before VO
> supported COM at all. I used and still use a prodct called VOCOM.

I will ask for VOCOM in a new thread.

> I know the authors of VOCOM, COMSDK, and VO2ADO. All are very good in the
> support category!

I can talk only for the COMSDK.

It has new versions, which are still unpublished.

There is simply no website where a user can see what bugfixes are available.

That is definitely not "very good" in the support category!

> I do use VO2ADO. The pro version includes source. All version support events.

ok.