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Michael Crane

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Mar 1, 2003, 3:56:52 AM3/1/03
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Does tournament backgammon need one uniform set of rules and procedures?

All the responses should only be a Yes or No (no discussion here, please)

Michael


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Michael Crane

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Mar 1, 2003, 3:57:28 AM3/1/03
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Yes

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Claes Tornberg

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Mar 1, 2003, 10:16:50 AM3/1/03
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Yes


Claes Tornberg

PS. A qualified yes, see my post in the TD's discussion group thread


Douglas Zare

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Mar 1, 2003, 10:25:22 AM3/1/03
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Michael Crane wrote:

> Does tournament backgammon need one uniform set of rules and procedures?

No.

Douglas Zare

Patti Beadles

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Mar 1, 2003, 11:49:03 AM3/1/03
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Need? No... a lack of common rules won't kill tournament backgammon.

Would it be a significant improvement? Yes.

-Patti
--
Patti Beadles | "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never
pat...@gammon.com | grow up to the be their parents, then one day
http://www.gammon.com/ | they look in the mirror and they're moving
or just yell, "Hey, Patti!" | aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?"

Richard Reasin

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Mar 1, 2003, 12:25:31 PM3/1/03
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Patti,

Thanks for all your hard work on Fibs! I'm not attacking you, but
your post just triggered a deja vu thing that I had to comment on. I
believe that the original poster, M. Crane, stated, "All the responses
should only be a Yes or No (no discussion here, please)" format. You
gave a typical female response. You didn't answer the question, but
spewed forth 18 words, where only one word was needed and requested.
I still do not know how to register your "vote". No wonder the poor
men of HIDDEN HILLS only hear "Yatata, yatata, yatata, yatata", when
their wives speak. As far as that goes, probably every man alive, has
heard his fair share of "Yatata". So, maybe you should resubmit your
vote, before this becomes another Florida debacle. Remember, this is
not an attack, just an observation.

I'm feeling better already. Maybe it was the anchovies on the pizza
last night. The black olives and onions never did this before. Come
to think of it, the severe "Yatata"assualt from the other half, didn't
begin until the anchovies showed up. Yep, all I needed was this
little bit of online self help therapy. What a wonderful day this is
going to be.

Thanks for all your help Patti. You ought to hang out a shingle.

I'm smiling now!
Rich Reasin

Jerry Donovan

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Mar 1, 2003, 12:40:42 PM3/1/03
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"Douglas Zare" <za...@math.columbia.edu> wrote in message
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>
> Michael Crane wrote:
>
> > Does tournament backgammon need one uniform set of rules and procedures?
>
> No.

ditto

Jerry (how are hang'n chads counted?)


Tapio Palmroth

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Mar 1, 2003, 2:25:08 PM3/1/03
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Yes.

tapio


Chris W.

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Mar 2, 2003, 12:46:03 AM3/2/03
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On Sat, 1 Mar 2003 08:56:52 -0000, "Michael Crane"
<michael.a.c...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>Does tournament backgammon need one uniform set of rules and procedures?
>
>All the responses should only be a Yes or No (no discussion here, please)
>
>Michael

Yes

Alef

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Mar 2, 2003, 8:42:44 AM3/2/03
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> Does tournament backgammon need one uniform set of rules and procedures?
>
> All the responses should only be a Yes or No (no discussion here, please)
>
> Michael

No.

-Alef

Dfranc2

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Mar 2, 2003, 10:17:06 PM3/2/03
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Yes

Reef Fish

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Mar 3, 2003, 10:43:30 AM3/3/03
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"Michael Crane" <michael.a.c...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<pB_7a.39$B85...@newsfep3-gui.server.ntli.net>...
> Does tournament backgammon need one uniform set of rules and procedures?
> All the responses should only be a Yes or No (no discussion here, please)

As all self-selected poll results go, the result of this one will be
just as statistically INVALID as the results of all the tabloid polls.

'Yes' for me, for this tabloid. :)

-- Bob.

Gary Ives

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Mar 3, 2003, 11:06:41 AM3/3/03
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On Sat, 1 Mar 2003 08:56:52 -0000, "Michael Crane"
<michael.a.c...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>Does tournament backgammon need one uniform set of rules and procedures?
>
>All the responses should only be a Yes or No (no discussion here, please)
>
>Michael
>
>

No.

Gary
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alanback

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Mar 4, 2003, 10:05:08 AM3/4/03
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"Michael Crane" <michael.a.c...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<pB_7a.39$B85...@newsfep3-gui.server.ntli.net>...

No.

Nis Jorgensen

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Mar 4, 2003, 1:22:26 PM3/4/03
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On 4 Mar 2003 07:05:08 -0800, alan...@gammonweb.com (alanback) wrote:

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>No.

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mail clients which do so semi-automatically are responsible.

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Mark Haley

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Mar 4, 2003, 5:50:30 PM3/4/03
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no


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Michael Sullivan

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Mar 4, 2003, 10:13:09 PM3/4/03
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Richard Reasin <rpre...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:

> Thanks for all your hard work on Fibs! I'm not attacking you, but
> your post just triggered a deja vu thing that I had to comment on. I
> believe that the original poster, M. Crane, stated, "All the responses
> should only be a Yes or No (no discussion here, please)" format.

Bummer for M. Crane. This is a discussion group, not his personal
voting machine. If he wants votes with no discussion he should have
them sent to his email and summarize.

And I'll go along with Patti that asking people to vote yes/no only
without a chance to discuss the question, is basically asking for less
than meaningful answers if you were not already *very* careful about
constructing the question to mean *exactly* what you want it to mean.

If this were some kind of official vote, you'd have little choice but to
bin Patti's response. But it isn't, and her comments would allow him to
make a choice of where to put it, based on intent that wasn't clear in
the question, and possibly follow up to make that intent more clear to
future voters. If he, like you, considers that annoying and typically
female, then I suggest that would be his problem.


Michael

Richard Reasin

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Mar 5, 2003, 12:42:01 AM3/5/03
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Michael,

Sorry to ruffle your hackles. I know the instant I tapped out
"typical female", it was wrong. I had intended to delete the phase,
but became distracted, and it slipped my mind. I wish to extend an
apology to both you and Patti.

Just for arguments sake, lets use the following supposition. M. Crane
puts forth his straw poll, and receives, oh let's say 25,000
responses. If he had to read even a short note or paragraph, from
each respondent, and then try to interpret each voter's meaning, the
poll may never be tallied. And if he did indeed manage to wade
through it, all objectivity would then be subject to M. Crane's own
perception. Hence, the exercise would be useless.

When I go to the poll to vote, the discussion phase of the issue is
over, and all that remains to be completed is the selection process.
I was not trying to muffle Patti's opinion, but rather just finish the
end phase. If Patti still had issues, she should have started a new
thread, or asked for the discussion to be continued. She should not
have tried to combine both matters.

Rich Reasin

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 22:13:09 -0500, m...@panix.com (Michael Sullivan)
wrote:

Richard Reasin

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Mar 5, 2003, 12:45:46 AM3/5/03
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Michael,

Sorry to ruffle your hackles. I know the instant I tapped out
"typical female", it was wrong. I had intended to delete the phase,
but became distracted, and it slipped my mind. I wish to extend an
apology to both you and Patti.

Just for arguments sake, lets use the following supposition. M. Crane
puts forth his straw poll, and receives, oh let's say 25,000
responses. If he had to read even a short note or paragraph, from
each respondent, and then try to interpret each voter's meaning, the
poll may never be tallied. And if he did indeed manage to wade
through it, all objectivity would then be subject to M. Crane's own
perception. Hence, the exercise would be useless.

When I go to the poll to vote, the discussion phase of the issue is
over, and all that remains to be completed is the selection process.
I was not trying to muffle Patti's opinion, but rather just finish the
end phase. If Patti still had issues, she should have started a new
thread, or asked for the discussion to be continued. She should not
have tried to combine both matters.

Rich Reasin


On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 22:13:09 -0500, m...@panix.com (Michael Sullivan)
wrote:

>Richard Reasin <rpre...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:

Kees van den Doel

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Mar 5, 2003, 2:32:19 AM3/5/03
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In article <jd3b6vkf51rdaltl7...@4ax.com>,
Richard Reasin <rpre...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:

>Just for arguments sake, lets use the following supposition. M. Crane
>puts forth his straw poll, and receives, oh let's say 25,000 responses.
>If he had to read even a short note or paragraph, from each respondent,
>and then try to interpret each voter's meaning, the poll may never be
>tallied. And if he did indeed manage to wade through it, all
>objectivity would then be subject to M. Crane's own perception. Hence,
>the exercise would be useless.

>When I go to the poll to vote, the discussion phase of the issue is
>over, and all that remains to be completed is the selection process. I
>was not trying to muffle Patti's opinion, but rather just finish the
>end phase. If Patti still had issues, she should have started a new
>thread, or asked for the discussion to be continued. She should not
>have tried to combine both matters.

These ramblings can be discarded as typically male testosterone induced
gibberish.


Kees (Sorry I fully colourless transparent and TDs what right toward
what standard?)

Dr. Seuss

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Mar 5, 2003, 2:12:19 PM3/5/03
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No

Hank Youngerman

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Mar 6, 2003, 1:05:42 AM3/6/03
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Yes

However in fairness I rarely play live. So my opinion hardly matters.


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