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Lots42

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Seriously. Do the new fruity colored Imac computers (A.K.A. looks like a
bowling ball run over by a bulldozer) come WITHOUT disk drives?

For the life of me, I could not think of an appropiate newsgroup to ask this
question except this one.


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David DeLaney

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Lots42 <lot...@aol.comaol.com.> wrote:
>Seriously. Do the new fruity colored Imac computers (A.K.A. looks like a
>bowling ball run over by a bulldozer) come WITHOUT disk drives?

I'm told this is true. And that you can obtain disk drives to connect to
them, but that Apple is bent on discouraging this un-futuristic behaviour.

>For the life of me, I could not think of an appropiate newsgroup to ask this
>question except this one.

Because it would start a flamewar on any real comp.* group!

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Nick S Bensema

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In article <19990121221629...@ng42.aol.com>,

Lots42 <lot...@aol.comaol.com.> wrote:
>Seriously. Do the new fruity colored Imac computers (A.K.A. looks like a
>bowling ball run over by a bulldozer) come WITHOUT disk drives?

I think iMac has always been floppyless.... if you want removable writable
media, you have to get a USB floppy or zip drive.

I dunno why... the floppy drive doesn't seem that unessential to me,
but I guess that's just because I go to school.

>For the life of me, I could not think of an appropiate newsgroup to ask this
>question except this one.

There's comp.mac.something.yadda.yadda.imac.fruit, I think... or
something..

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Talos

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1999年1月22日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/22
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Nick S Bensema wrote:
>
> In article <19990121221629...@ng42.aol.com>,
> Lots42 <lot...@aol.comaol.com.> wrote:
> >Seriously. Do the new fruity colored Imac computers (A.K.A. looks like a
> >bowling ball run over by a bulldozer) come WITHOUT disk drives?
>
> I think iMac has always been floppyless.... if you want removable writable
> media, you have to get a USB floppy or zip drive.

True.

>
> I dunno why... the floppy drive doesn't seem that unessential to me,
> but I guess that's just because I go to school.

For the past two years the only time I've used a floppy is when I needed
an object to throw at somebody. I just burn a CD with all my iMac tools
or I use an ethernet connection.

>
> >For the life of me, I could not think of an appropiate newsgroup to ask this
> >question except this one.
>
> There's comp.mac.something.yadda.yadda.imac.fruit, I think... or
> something..

Try
comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc
and
comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage

>
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The Avocado Avenger

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1999年1月22日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/22
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ni...@primenet.com (Nick S Bensema) writes:

>In article <19990121221629...@ng42.aol.com>,
>Lots42 <lot...@aol.comaol.com.> wrote:
>>Seriously. Do the new fruity colored Imac computers (A.K.A. looks like a
>>bowling ball run over by a bulldozer) come WITHOUT disk drives?

>I think iMac has always been floppyless.... if you want removable writable
>media, you have to get a USB floppy or zip drive.

But they have handles, mang. Handles. So you can carry your fruity
bowling ball with a screen around with you.
Which reminds me of the C-128 manual, which shows a guy carrying a C-128
on campus. The pic is labelled "The Commodore 128 at school". It doesn't
explain how you lug the 27 pound disk drive, the 92 pound printer, or the
108 pound monitor around with you. Because just the keyboard ain't gonna
do you no good, unless you're swatting big ass flies. They should also
have a picture labelled "The Commodore 128 in the bathtub" and "The
Commodore 128 in a brothel".
Dammit, Nick, stop making me post about Commodores!


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Nick S Bensema

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1999年1月22日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/22
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In article <36A86D14...@erols.com>, Talos <Tal...@erols.com> wrote:

>Nick S Bensema wrote:
>> I dunno why... the floppy drive doesn't seem that unessential to me,
>> but I guess that's just because I go to school.
>
>For the past two years the only time I've used a floppy is when I needed
>an object to throw at somebody. I just burn a CD with all my iMac tools
>or I use an ethernet connection.

DISK FIGHT!!!

Someday I'm going to try that... probably during the graduation ceremony.
The lab might be a better place, but people are doing important stuff in
there all the time and they wouldn't appreciate being interrupted.

Actually, CD burners and ethernet connections are probably over the heads
of iMac's target market. Even though there is an ethernet port built in,
its only widespread home use is going to be games. Though I can imagine
a few ultrageeks installing Ethernet jacks throughout their house....
in fact, I know one who has already done so, and another who is about to
(me).

Nick S Bensema

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1999年1月22日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/22
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In article <78ad73$kc5$1...@hiram.io.com>,

The Avocado Avenger <sta...@io.com.guacamole> wrote:
>ni...@primenet.com (Nick S Bensema) writes:
>
>>I think iMac has always been floppyless.... if you want removable writable
>>media, you have to get a USB floppy or zip drive.
>
> But they have handles, mang. Handles. So you can carry your fruity
>bowling ball with a screen around with you.

The new G3 machine, which comes in a tower case, also has handles.
You may have already seen Kibo's ASCII illustration. And it also
has a DOOR that allows you to get in its guts. Believe me, that'll
probably sell a lot of G3's. Ever opened up a PC? Ever had to
replace a CD-ROM that's between two other drives, and has a sideways
3.5" drive right next to it? Ever notice all the nooks and crannies
a desktop case has in its desperate effort to hold as much stuff
as a tower case? And ever notice how many weird assemblies and
brackets you have to shuffle around to get at those nooks and
crannies? Ever decide to forget the whole thing and leave your PC
case open to the elements, even if it means you have to blast your
TV to drown out all the cooling fans and spinning hard drives?

> Which reminds me of the C-128 manual, which shows a guy carrying a C-128
>on campus. The pic is labelled "The Commodore 128 at school". It doesn't
>explain how you lug the 27 pound disk drive, the 92 pound printer, or the
>108 pound monitor around with you. Because just the keyboard ain't gonna
>do you no good, unless you're swatting big ass flies.

You forget that the datasette drive is very lightweight, and Speedscript
works equally well on tape and disk. Also, the Commodore 128 hooks up
to any television set, and with a simple adapter can hook up to a
standard RS232 printer. And a few schools in the US probably have
rooms with both TVs and RS232 printers.

And you also forget the built-in display. But most people couldn't
use it because they weren't telepathic.

>They should also
>have a picture labelled "The Commodore 128 in the bathtub" and "The
>Commodore 128 in a brothel".

GIF! GIF!

> Dammit, Nick, stop making me post about Commodores!

You know you want to. Don't fight it. I'll still respect you in
the morning.

Tim Serpas

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1999年1月22日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/22
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Lots42 <lot...@aol.comaol.com.> wrote:
>Seriously. Do the new fruity colored Imac computers (A.K.A. looks like a
>bowling ball run over by a bulldozer) come WITHOUT disk drives?

My floppy disk use:
At work: constantly.
At home: almost never.

Wretch


The Avocado Avenger

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1999年1月22日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/22
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ni...@primenet.com (Nick S Bensema) writes:
>The Avocado Avenger <sta...@io.com.guacamole> wrote:

>> Which reminds me of the C-128 manual, which shows a guy carrying a C-128
>>on campus. The pic is labelled "The Commodore 128 at school". It doesn't
>>explain how you lug the 27 pound disk drive, the 92 pound printer, or the
>>108 pound monitor around with you. Because just the keyboard ain't gonna
>>do you no good, unless you're swatting big ass flies.

>You forget that the datasette drive is very lightweight, and Speedscript
>works equally well on tape and disk. Also, the Commodore 128 hooks up
>to any television set, and with a simple adapter can hook up to a
>standard RS232 printer. And a few schools in the US probably have
>rooms with both TVs and RS232 printers.

Look. The C-128 keyboard was easily twice the size of keyboards
nowadays. It's almost a full square, instead of the normal 18 inches by 5
inches or whatever [1]. Secondly, the datasette might be lightweight but
it's hardly useful, considering any program worth a damn takes 3+ minutes
to load. Finally, I doubt that any school in 1987 had classrooms with
TVs, let alone TVs sitting at the desks so each student can potentially
hook up their C-128, or watch Oprah, instead of listening to the lecture.

>And you also forget the built-in display. But most people couldn't
>use it because they weren't telepathic.

But if you opened up the keyboard you could peek inside and see the
display!

Talos

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1999年1月22日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/22
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Nick S Bensema wrote:
>
> In article <36A86D14...@erols.com>, Talos <Tal...@erols.com> wrote:
> >Nick S Bensema wrote:
> >> I dunno why... the floppy drive doesn't seem that unessential to me,
> >> but I guess that's just because I go to school.
> >
> >For the past two years the only time I've used a floppy is when I needed
> >an object to throw at somebody. I just burn a CD with all my iMac tools
> >or I use an ethernet connection.
>
> DISK FIGHT!!!
>
> Someday I'm going to try that... probably during the graduation ceremony.
> The lab might be a better place, but people are doing important stuff in
> there all the time and they wouldn't appreciate being interrupted.

I have lots of AOL disks you can use. Make sure you throw them like
those pocket sized frisbees Pizza Hut used to sell about ten years ago
(pointer finger on the edge of the disk to guide it) so it has some spin.

Another thing you can try throwing is mouse pads (MOUSE PAD FIGHT!!!).
Mouse pads are like Nerf(tm) floppies when it comes to office projectiles.

>
> Actually, CD burners and ethernet connections are probably over the heads
> of iMac's target market. Even though there is an ethernet port built in,
> its only widespread home use is going to be games. Though I can imagine
> a few ultrageeks installing Ethernet jacks throughout their house....
> in fact, I know one who has already done so, and another who is about to
> (me).

It may be over their heads but multi-player games (see: Marathon, Doom2,
Quake, or Unreal) are best over RJ-45 Ethernet connections :-)

>
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Talos

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1999年1月22日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/22
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Nick S Bensema wrote:
>
> In article <78ad73$kc5$1...@hiram.io.com>,

> The Avocado Avenger <sta...@io.com.guacamole> wrote:
> >ni...@primenet.com (Nick S Bensema) writes:
> >
> >>I think iMac has always been floppyless.... if you want removable writable
> >>media, you have to get a USB floppy or zip drive.
> >
> > But they have handles, mang. Handles. So you can carry your fruity
> >bowling ball with a screen around with you.

That handle is very misleading.

>
> The new G3 machine, which comes in a tower case, also has handles.
> You may have already seen Kibo's ASCII illustration. And it also
> has a DOOR that allows you to get in its guts. Believe me, that'll
> probably sell a lot of G3's. Ever opened up a PC? Ever had to
> replace a CD-ROM that's between two other drives, and has a sideways
> 3.5" drive right next to it? Ever notice all the nooks and crannies
> a desktop case has in its desperate effort to hold as much stuff
> as a tower case? And ever notice how many weird assemblies and
> brackets you have to shuffle around to get at those nooks and
> crannies? Ever decide to forget the whole thing and leave your PC
> case open to the elements, even if it means you have to blast your
> TV to drown out all the cooling fans and spinning hard drives?

Try opening a PowerMac 8500, it's a pain in the ass!

These new G3's look like crap but their fast as hell. I would get one
right now if I had the money (my excuse for everything).

<snip>

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1999年1月22日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/22
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In alt.religion.kibology, Nick S Bensema <ni...@primenet.com> wrote:
>In article <36A86D14...@erols.com>, Talos <Tal...@erols.com> wrote:
>>Nick S Bensema wrote:
>>> I dunno why... the floppy drive doesn't seem that unessential to me,
>>> but I guess that's just because I go to school.
>>
>>For the past two years the only time I've used a floppy is when I needed
>>an object to throw at somebody. I just burn a CD with all my iMac tools
>>or I use an ethernet connection.
>
>DISK FIGHT!!!

I don't think it is as much that you are in school as much as the fact
that you interact with people who use computers. The only time I use
floppies anymore is when people at work can't or won't learn to find
files where I specifically leave them on work's network server.

As for personal use, I don't use them because I don't move files that
small anymore or else I can't figure out how to make WinZip span disks,
and people get impatient when I jump into a DOS shell to move stuff for
them, even though it's quicker.

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Mark Hill

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1999年1月22日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/22
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smj...@my-dejanews.com (Duck Rogers) writes:
> Better yet, buy a CDC 6600.

Kibo and I usta own a CDC ETA-10G.


Duck Rogers

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> ) probably sell a lot of G3's. Ever opened up a PC? Ever had to
> ) replace a CD-ROM that's between two other drives, and has a sideways
> ) 3.5" drive right next to it? Ever notice all the nooks and crannies
> ) a desktop case has in its desperate effort to hold as much stuff

Buy a Mac and you don't have to open it up and see how they crammed it together.

Better yet, buy a CDC 6600.

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> ) > Better yet, buy a CDC 6600.
> )
> ) Kibo and I usta own a CDC ETA-10G.

FSU?


The Cyber203 (or, precyberly, STAR-100D) was more interesting: no
gurly-boy 32 bit arithmetic, no wussy 64 bit arithmetic. 65535 bit
arithmetic. It was purchased by the guvment, and they needed something to
compute the national debt on.

Cyber205 to Quadra 640. What happenned to my life?

ren...@hotmail.com

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1999年1月23日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/23
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I demand a disk drive! Why don't we start a company and call it Cherry!


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Noah A Christis

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1999年1月24日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/24
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On 22 Jan 1999 23:38:15 GMT, sta...@io.com.guacamole (The Avocado
Avenger) wrote:

>ni...@primenet.com (Nick S Bensema) writes:
>>The Avocado Avenger <sta...@io.com.guacamole> wrote:
>

>>> Which reminds me of the C-128 manual, which shows a guy carrying a C-128
>>>on campus. The pic is labelled "The Commodore 128 at school". It doesn't
>>>explain how you lug the 27 pound disk drive, the 92 pound printer, or the
>>>108 pound monitor around with you. Because just the keyboard ain't gonna
>>>do you no good, unless you're swatting big ass flies.
>>You forget that the datasette drive is very lightweight, and Speedscript
>>works equally well on tape and disk. Also, the Commodore 128 hooks up
>>to any television set, and with a simple adapter can hook up to a
>>standard RS232 printer. And a few schools in the US probably have
>>rooms with both TVs and RS232 printers.
> Look. The C-128 keyboard was easily twice the size of keyboards
>nowadays. It's almost a full square, instead of the normal 18 inches by 5
>inches or whatever [1].

The keyboard I use for my xt is a full square, its spiffy retro
looking. Everyone will be using square keyboards in a few years!1
Imminent death of ergonomic keyboards predicted!!! Then I will throw
out my square keyboard and buy a circular one, because I am not like
those other guys!! I am always two and a half steps ahead of the
crowd!1 yeah!1

> Secondly, the datasette might be lightweight but
>it's hardly useful, considering any program worth a damn takes 3+ minutes
>to load. Finally, I doubt that any school in 1987 had classrooms with
>TVs, let alone TVs sitting at the desks so each student can potentially
>hook up their C-128, or watch Oprah, instead of listening to the lecture.

it really sucks that datasette was so bad otherwise in startrek there
would be an android called Miss Datasette and she would be 1000x
friendlier than DATA cuz she would be from CBM!!!!!!

>>And you also forget the built-in display. But most people couldn't
>>use it because they weren't telepathic.
>
> But if you opened up the keyboard you could peek inside and see the
>display!

hey, that wasn't a nice thing to do. now i have to put all the keys
back on.

>
> Stacia * The Avocado Avenger * Life is a tale told by an idiot;
> http://www.io.com/~stacia/ * Full of sound and fury,
> Remove the guacamole to reply! * Signifying nothing.

i have michaels dancing mouse in my computer iykwim aityd!!111

for stacia:
(repeat as many times as necessary)


10 V=54296:W=54276:A=54277:H=54273:L=54272
20 POKEV,15:POKEW,65:POKEA,15
30 FORX=200TO5STEP-2:POKEH,40:POKEL,X:NEXT
40 FORX=150TO5STEP-2:POKEH,40:POKEL,X:NEXT
50 POKEW,0


and for terri:
(repeat as many times as necessary)

10 V=54296:W=54276:A=54277:H=54273:L=54272
20 FORX=15TO0STEP-1:POKEV,X:POKEW,129:POKEA,15,POKEH,40:POKEL,200:NEXT
30 POKEW,0:POKEA,0

and for leah:
(repitition built-in!!!111111)

10 POKEMON
20 GOTO TEN

The third program I wrote for my 2nd grade programming class was a
star trek game where you shoot the klingon bops in your little nc-17.
The hardest part of making the game was getting the bg theme music to
stop conflicting with the photon torpedo noises i spent hours
creating!!1 In third grade I realized how stupid a game it was and
decided to make a game for serious older people!11 DINO ATTAK! THE
GAME WHERE YOU KILL DINOSAURS!!11 (set to star trek theme music)


AND REMEMBER: THE FRIENDLY COMPUTER COMPANY IS LOOKING OUT FOR YOU!

C=


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The Avocado Avenger

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1999年1月24日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/24
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haon...@my-dejanews.com (Noah A Christis) writes:

>On 22 Jan 1999 23:38:15 GMT, sta...@io.com.guacamole (The Avocado
>Avenger) wrote:

>>ni...@primenet.com (Nick S Bensema) writes:
>>>The Avocado Avenger <sta...@io.com.guacamole> wrote:
>>
>>>> Which reminds me of the C-128 manual, which shows a guy carrying a C-128
>>>>on campus. The pic is labelled "The Commodore 128 at school".

[snip]


>>>And you also forget the built-in display. But most people couldn't
>>>use it because they weren't telepathic.
>>
>> But if you opened up the keyboard you could peek inside and see the
>>display!

>hey, that wasn't a nice thing to do. now i have to put all the keys
>back on.

[snip]


>The third program I wrote for my 2nd grade programming class was a
>star trek game where you shoot the klingon bops in your little nc-17.
>The hardest part of making the game was getting the bg theme music to
>stop conflicting with the photon torpedo noises i spent hours
>creating!!1 In third grade I realized how stupid a game it was and
>decided to make a game for serious older people!11 DINO ATTAK! THE
>GAME WHERE YOU KILL DINOSAURS!!11 (set to star trek theme music)

SSC: A cousin of mine made and marketed a game for the Commodore 64,
called "Bug Stomp". You were a giant boot and you stomped these big
ant-like things that were roughly the same size as your boot, only they
had legs and your boot didn't. It was simply disembodied. I don't
believe it even cast a shadow.
My cousin will now appear from nowhere and tell me it's my fault that he
died because I mentioned him on the group.

bea...@my-dejanews.com

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1999年1月25日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/25
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In article <788ulr$o6g$1...@nnrp03.primenet.com>,

ni...@primenet.com (Nick S Bensema) wrote:
> In article <19990121221629...@ng42.aol.com>,
> Lots42 <lot...@aol.comaol.com.> wrote:
> >Seriously. Do the new fruity colored Imac computers (A.K.A. looks like a
> >bowling ball run over by a bulldozer) come WITHOUT disk drives?
>
> I think iMac has always been floppyless.... if you want removable writable
> media, you have to get a USB floppy or zip drive.

OHHHHHH *FLOPPY* drives! I've obviously been living
in the intensely futuristic world of 1999 for TOO
LONG! When Lots42 said "disk drives" I automatically
thought "hard disks". SILLY ME! I just thought,
"Stupid Apple computer company! Now they are selling
computers without HARD DISKS! SHEESH! Would they do
ANYTHING to go bankrupt, or what?". But I finally
managed to watch the new ad. I heard it one time
before, when the REALLY OLD Stones song "She comes
in colours, Like a rainbow" (FNARR FNARR!) was playing.
AND THAT LETS ME DEFTLY STEER THIS THREAD AROUND TO
USE MY FABULOUS NEW ACRONYM: She comes in colours,
because she is POLASM! POLASM! POLASM! It sounds
vaguely rude, doesn't it? POLAR ORGASM! Do it with
a PENGUIN! I'M DOING IT WITH A PENGUIN RIGHT NOW,
IKYWMF, AITYD!

Well gotta go! I have to find more threads to
steer around to POLASM!

cheers
beable van POLASM
beable industries
POLASM division
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1999年1月25日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/25
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In article <78da36$f4t$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, <ren...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I demand a disk drive! Why don't we start a company and call it Cherry!

Right! Then we could make a computer called the Cherry 2000, and when
it broke it would make its users fall in love with Meg Ryan while
emailing our tech support department demanding inflatable spare parts
for their inflatable sex t^H^H^H^H^Hcomputer.

Andrew "or maybe Daphne Zuniga?" Jeanes

--
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Well I wouldn't mind it fella but you know this train ain't mine'
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bea...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <MPG.11130878b...@news.seanet.com>,

sun...@seanet.com (Louis Nick III) wrote:
> In alt.religion.kibology, Nick S Bensema <ni...@primenet.com> wrote:
> >In article <36A86D14...@erols.com>, Talos <Tal...@erols.com> wrote:
> >>Nick S Bensema wrote:
> >>> I dunno why... the floppy drive doesn't seem that unessential to me,
> >>> but I guess that's just because I go to school.
> >>
> >>For the past two years the only time I've used a floppy is when I needed
> >>an object to throw at somebody. I just burn a CD with all my iMac tools
> >>or I use an ethernet connection.
> >
> >DISK FIGHT!!!
>
> I don't think it is as much that you are in school as much as the fact
> that you interact with people who use computers. The only time I use
> floppies anymore is when people at work can't or won't learn to find
> files where I specifically leave them on work's network server.

What? And then you will give it to them on a floppy? Why
not just email it to them, or email them a url to the
server? The only reason I can think of for using a floppy
in these circumstances would be if there was some HOT CHYK
and you thought that by pandering to her uselesness you
could make her POLASM! YAY! I GOT IT IN WITHOUT HARDLY
HAFTING TO SWERVE AT ALL!

> As for personal use, I don't use them because I don't move files that
> small anymore or else I can't figure out how to make WinZip span disks,
> and people get impatient when I jump into a DOS shell to move stuff for
> them, even though it's quicker.

I think you want arj.exe which can do multi-volume archives.
Of course, I don't do it that way. OH NO I DON'T! I ftp them
to a unix box, and use split thusly:
split -b 1420k bigfile lil
and then cat them back together on a unix box later:
cat lil* > bigfile

And as for that DOS shell stuff, POLASM! SORRY! THAT JUST
SLIPPED OUT! But that DOS shell stuff, I find that I can't
keep up with all this "clicky" nonsense that windoze
requires now. I also use DOS shell for most stuff. I really
cried when they made me use windozeNT and I couldn't find
the deltree command anywhere! Until I discovered that
rd /s DOES THE SAME THING! (Almost) YAY!

Anyway, I have to end this post now. It has run out
of POLASM potential!

cheers
beable van POLASM
beable indstries

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In article <78e8vl$9ue$1...@hiram.io.com>,

sta...@io.com.guacamole (The Avocado Avenger) wrote:

> SSC: A cousin of mine made and marketed a game for the Commodore 64,
> called "Bug Stomp". You were a giant boot and you stomped these big
> ant-like things that were roughly the same size as your boot, only they
> had legs and your boot didn't. It was simply disembodied. I don't
> believe it even cast a shadow.
> My cousin will now appear from nowhere and tell me it's my fault that he
> died because I mentioned him on the group.

I think that Gard Trask is safe from your jinx, because he
posts here somtimes. Also, I wish I didn't reply to this
post now, because I CAN'T FIT POLASM IN ANYWHERE!

cheers
beable van polasm
beable industries
--
Lady Astor: You're drunk!
Winston Churchill: And you, madam, are UGLY! But seeing as how
you're POLASM, I will OVERLOOK the ugliness
until the morning.

Nick S Bensema

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In article <78gjh4$mas$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, <bea...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
>AND THAT LETS ME DEFTLY STEER THIS THREAD AROUND TO
>USE MY FABULOUS NEW ACRONYM: She comes in colours,
>because she is POLASM! POLASM! POLASM! It sounds
>vaguely rude, doesn't it? POLAR ORGASM! Do it with
>a PENGUIN! I'M DOING IT WITH A PENGUIN RIGHT NOW,
>IKYWMF, AITYD!

Do you mean that you've installed Linux and are rilly rilly happy with it?

The Avocado Avenger

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bea...@my-dejanews.com writes:

>In article <78e8vl$9ue$1...@hiram.io.com>,
> sta...@io.com.guacamole (The Avocado Avenger) wrote:

>> SSC: A cousin of mine made and marketed a game for the Commodore 64,
>> called "Bug Stomp". You were a giant boot and you stomped these big
>> ant-like things that were roughly the same size as your boot, only they
>> had legs and your boot didn't. It was simply disembodied. I don't
>> believe it even cast a shadow.
>> My cousin will now appear from nowhere and tell me it's my fault that he
>> died because I mentioned him on the group.

>I think that Gard Trask is safe from your jinx, because he
>posts here somtimes. Also, I wish I didn't reply to this
>post now, because I CAN'T FIT POLASM IN ANYWHERE!

AIGH GARD TRASK IS MY COUSIN!!! WHY DIDN'T ANYONE LET ME KNOW?!?!

Michael Straight

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On 22 Jan 1999, Lots42 wrote:

> Seriously. Do the new fruity colored Imac computers (A.K.A. looks like a
> bowling ball run over by a bulldozer) come WITHOUT disk drives?

Yep. Just like a WebTV, it has no disk drive whatsoever (hard or soft).

Which makes sense, when you consider they're owned by the same company.

SMTIRCAHIAGEHLT

Michael Straight

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On 22 Jan 1999, Nick S Bensema wrote:

> You forget that the datasette drive is very lightweight, and Speedscript
> works equally well on tape and disk.

Yeah, yer kewl, but did you actually type SpeedScript in by hand from the
magazine?

Michael Straight loves picking fights he can't possibly win.
FLEOEVDETYHOEUPROEONREWMEILECSOFMOERSGTIRVAENRGEEARDSTVHIESBIITBTLHEEPSRIACYK
Ethical Mirth Gas/"I'm chaste alright."/Magic Hitler Hats/"Hath grace limits?"
"Tight camel hairs!"/Chili Hamster Tag/The Gilt Charisma/"I gather this calm."


ren...@hotmail.com

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IMacs have only two things over every other type of computer. The packaging
and the colors on the monitor are superior. That would make the IMAC the
equivalent to a hicktown beauty queen.

Nick S Bensema

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In article <Pine.A41.3.95L.99012...@login4.isis.unc.edu>,

Michael Straight <stra...@email.unc.edu> wrote:
>On 22 Jan 1999, Nick S Bensema wrote:
>
>> You forget that the datasette drive is very lightweight, and Speedscript
>> works equally well on tape and disk.
>
>Yeah, yer kewl, but did you actually type SpeedScript in by hand from the
>magazine?

No, but I downloaded it to my Atari at 300 baud, which is close enough
when you're ten years old and don't realize you can leave the room
while the download is going on.

I actually can't believe anyone would sit down and type rows of
bytes, six at a time, printed in tiny little print from a magazine,
for pages and pages, rather than fork over the extra few bucks for
the disk edition.

Talos

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bea...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

<snip>

> Which brings me back to something else I wanted to
> say earlier in this thread: POLASM! NO SORRY! That's
> not it. If Imacs don't have floppy drives, WHERE DO
> YOU STICK THE LINUX BOOT DISK TO PUT A *REAL*
> OPERATING SYSTEM ON THERE???//?

Mk Linux and Linux PPC both come on CD's that can double as coasters
when you're finished loading it.

<snip>
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Talos

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Microsloth owns WebTV, not Apple.


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in amazement, I beheld wre...@dillinger.io.com (Tim Serpas)
write in alt.religion.kibology:

:)Lots42 <lot...@aol.comaol.com.> wrote:
:)>Seriously. Do the new fruity colored Imac computers (A.K.A. looks like a
:)>bowling ball run over by a bulldozer) come WITHOUT disk drives?

:)My floppy disk use:
:)At work: constantly.
:)At home: almost never.

THAT'S NOT A HAIKU!

my floppy disk use:
at work, when I worked: rarely.
at home: constantly.

HA! I AM BETTER THAN YOU! BECAUSE I SCAN!

--
cement jeans are asking buttoned-up farmhouses about patron ambiguity.
His Most Feathered Eminence, the Ur-Beatle


bea...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <78h9dr$n0p$1...@nnrp03.primenet.com>,

ni...@primenet.com (Nick S Bensema) wrote:
> In article <78gjh4$mas$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, <bea...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
> >AND THAT LETS ME DEFTLY STEER THIS THREAD AROUND TO
> >USE MY FABULOUS NEW ACRONYM: She comes in colours,
> >because she is POLASM! POLASM! POLASM! It sounds
> >vaguely rude, doesn't it? POLAR ORGASM! Do it with
> >a PENGUIN! I'M DOING IT WITH A PENGUIN RIGHT NOW,
> >IKYWMF, AITYD!
>
> Do you mean that you've installed Linux and are rilly rilly happy with it?

That is indeed what I mean. I got a new computer recently,
and put Linux on there. It was quicker to install Linux
than to do the initial boot for windoze98, where it asks
for the cd and then does something, I'm not sure what. But
that takes about an hour, whereas the linux install only
took about 30 minutes. The only problems I've got now are:
if I close the lid (it's a notebook) then when I reopen
it, the X-window system goes a bit screwy. This is easily
fixed by pressing ctrl-alt-keypad+ twice. Also, the PCMCIA
services have a bit of trouble recognising the compactflash
card out of my digital camera. If I plug it in and out a
few times, it seems to panic the kernel. (SO DON'T DO THAT
THEN!!). Ok, I won't. Apart from that, LINUX IS WONDERFUL!
It is SO much better than windoze, mirscoft must be crapping
their pants. FREAKS! THEY WEAR PANTS!

Which brings me back to something else I wanted to
say earlier in this thread: POLASM! NO SORRY! That's
not it. If Imacs don't have floppy drives, WHERE DO
YOU STICK THE LINUX BOOT DISK TO PUT A *REAL*
OPERATING SYSTEM ON THERE???//?

cheers


beable van polasm
beable industries
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toughening up people from other, sissy religions, are we able to grow
closer to He Who Greps. -- Lee Shelton Bumgarner

Nick S Bensema

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1999年1月26日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/26
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In article <78j0q3$hhg$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, <bea...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
>Which brings me back to something else I wanted to
>say earlier in this thread: POLASM! NO SORRY! That's
>not it. If Imacs don't have floppy drives, WHERE DO
>YOU STICK THE LINUX BOOT DISK TO PUT A *REAL*
>OPERATING SYSTEM ON THERE???//?

They have CD-ROMs.

I assume Red Hat will make a Linux CD that boots on the iMac, because
if they don't, everyone with an imac has to use MacOS, which nobody
likes. Right now Steve Jobs is pacing around Apple screaming at
programmers to get Rhapsody done faster.

Nick S Bensema

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1999年1月26日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/26
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In article <78iv49$g45$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, <ren...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>IMacs have only two things over every other type of computer. The packaging
>and the colors on the monitor are superior. That would make the IMAC the
>equivalent to a hicktown beauty queen.

Three if you count that it's not a Wintel box, but that's about it.
And it does come with Internet Explorer, so it's really not as
Wintel-free as it used to be.

I would say "easier to get on the Internet" like everyone at Apple
claims but I have a bunch of CDs with flashy colored labels that
make the same claim. And I hope that Apple's definition of the
Internet isn't limited to one ISP, and if it is, that it ain't
AOL or, shudder, MSN.

bea...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <36AD0DF6...@erols.com>,

Tal...@erols.com wrote:
> Michael Straight wrote:
> >
> > On 22 Jan 1999, Lots42 wrote:
> >
> > > Seriously. Do the new fruity colored Imac computers (A.K.A. looks like a
> > > bowling ball run over by a bulldozer) come WITHOUT disk drives?
> >
> > Yep. Just like a WebTV, it has no disk drive whatsoever (hard or soft).
> >
> > Which makes sense, when you consider they're owned by the same company.
> >
> > SMTIRCAHIAGEHLT
>
> Microsloth owns WebTV, not Apple.

OH LIKE *DUH*!!, TALOS42! IF THAT *IS* YOUR REAL NAME!
HE DIDN'T SAY THAT MICROSLOTH OWNS *APPLE*, HE SAID
THAT *WEBTV* OWNS APPLE! LEARN TO READ PROPER ENGLISH
YOU BIG MAC-LOVIN' FROOTCAKE!

cheers
beable van polasm
beable industries
--

I took mine out to polish it the other day, and before I knew what was
happening I had run out of the house and slaughtered my next door neighbour,
her dog, her two siamese cats, a parrot and a passing jogger who happened to
get in the way. I hate it when that happens. -- Eric of Melbourne

bea...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <78ivcb$nq2$2...@nnrp03.primenet.com>,

ni...@primenet.com (Nick S Bensema) wrote:
> In article <Pine.A41.3.95L.99012...@login4.isis.unc.edu>,
> Michael Straight <stra...@email.unc.edu> wrote:
> >On 22 Jan 1999, Nick S Bensema wrote:
> >
> >> You forget that the datasette drive is very lightweight, and Speedscript
> >> works equally well on tape and disk.
> >
> >Yeah, yer kewl, but did you actually type SpeedScript in by hand from the
> >magazine?
>
> No, but I downloaded it to my Atari at 300 baud, which is close enough
> when you're ten years old and don't realize you can leave the room
> while the download is going on.

YOU COULDN'T!!!1! AND YOU STILL CAN'T!! STOP SPREADING
THESE VISCOUS LIES!!1! PEEPUL, IF UR DOWNLOADING STUFF
YOU HAFTA WATCH *EVERY* BYTE FLY INTO UR COMPUTER IN
THOSE SHEETS OF PAPER THAT WINDOZE USES! IF UR A MAC-
LOVIN' FROOOTCAKE, YOU HAFTA WATCH THAT LITTLE DOG
RUNNING ALONG WITH THE BYTES IN HIS MOUTH!

IF YOU DON'T WATCH IT WON'T WORK PROPERLY! ALSO,
CHANGE UR PASSWORD TO ******** SO THAT IT
DISPLAZE PROPERLY!!!1!

>
> I actually can't believe anyone would sit down and type rows of
> bytes, six at a time, printed in tiny little print from a magazine,
> for pages and pages, rather than fork over the extra few bucks for
> the disk edition.

The "disk edition" was only available in the USA wasn't it?
When I had a CRUMMYDOOR=64, I had to type stuff in by hand.
AND I DIN'T HAVE A DISK DRIVE UNTIL MUCH LATER NEITHER!
But a RILLY FUNNY thing I saw was I went over to the house
of this CHYK I worked with, and her little brother had a
CRUMMYDOOR=64. He had tricked his mother into typing in
some game from a magazine. He played it for about ten
minutes, and then got sick of it. So he turned the
computer off. BUT HE DIDN'T HAVE A TAPE DRIVE OR A
DISK DRIVE! SO THE GAME WAS LOST! The mother said,
"So can you play that game again later?" and the
little boy said "Nuh.". "Why not?". "bekoz it's not
saved!"

So I was cracking up laughing! I said it's a RILLY GOOD
idea to get a tape drive or a disk drive!

I remember when I got an amiga, and then it was possible
to buy a hard drive. I think a 20MB hard drive cost about
$1000. So I did the sums: 720K floppy = $5, 20MB hard drive
= $1000, FLOPPIES ARE CHEAPER, D00D! So I bought another
floppy drive for $150. GRINK GRONK! GRINK GRONK! GRINK GRONK!
GRINK GRONK! GRINK GRONK! GRINK GRONK! SHUT UP YOU STUPID
FLOPPY DRIVE! And that was when 3 and a half inch floppies
were RILLY EXPENSIVE! GRINK GRONK! GRINK GRONK! GRINK GRONK!
SHUUUUUUTTTTT UUUUUPPPPPP!!! Why did they design the floppy
drive to go GRINK GRONK! GRINK GRONK! GRINK GRONK! all the
time unless you put a floppy into it? Freakin MORONS!

cheers
beable van polasm
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You have to admit something about this thread, it has the most
eclectic or creative cross-posting I have ever personally witnessed.
-- Field Marshal D.J.

Nick S Bensema

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In article <78jl3e$21v$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, <bea...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
>But a RILLY FUNNY thing I saw was I went over to the house
>of this CHYK I worked with, and her little brother had a
>CRUMMYDOOR=64. He had tricked his mother into typing in
>some game from a magazine. He played it for about ten
>minutes, and then got sick of it. So he turned the
>computer off. BUT HE DIDN'T HAVE A TAPE DRIVE OR A
>DISK DRIVE! SO THE GAME WAS LOST! The mother said,

Once I wrote a really cool BASIC program of my own design, but
all my storage devices were frazzing out. I suggested to my
parents that they run down to my friend's house and borrow their
printer so I could type LLIST and print out my program. They
didn't go for it. So that program was lost forever. Wah.

>floppy drive for $150. GRINK GRONK! GRINK GRONK! GRINK GRONK!
>GRINK GRONK! GRINK GRONK! GRINK GRONK! SHUT UP YOU STUPID
>FLOPPY DRIVE! And that was when 3 and a half inch floppies
>were RILLY EXPENSIVE! GRINK GRONK! GRINK GRONK! GRINK GRONK!
>SHUUUUUUTTTTT UUUUUPPPPPP!!! Why did they design the floppy
>drive to go GRINK GRONK! GRINK GRONK! GRINK GRONK! all the
>time unless you put a floppy into it? Freakin MORONS!

That's how it told whether there was a disk in there, so it
could autodetect and the OS could load icons and stuff.

Because designs which simply checked whether the latch had
clicked were five times as expensive, because it would involve
putting in a switch.

Talos

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bea...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> In article <36AD0DF6...@erols.com>,
> Tal...@erols.com wrote:
> > Michael Straight wrote:
> > >
> > > On 22 Jan 1999, Lots42 wrote:
> > >
> > > > Seriously. Do the new fruity colored Imac computers (A.K.A. looks like a
> > > > bowling ball run over by a bulldozer) come WITHOUT disk drives?
> > >
> > > Yep. Just like a WebTV, it has no disk drive whatsoever (hard or soft).
> > >
> > > Which makes sense, when you consider they're owned by the same company.
> > >
> > > SMTIRCAHIAGEHLT
> >
> > Microsloth owns WebTV, not Apple.
>
> OH LIKE *DUH*!!, TALOS42! IF THAT *IS* YOUR REAL NAME!
> HE DIDN'T SAY THAT MICROSLOTH OWNS *APPLE*, HE SAID
> THAT *WEBTV* OWNS APPLE! LEARN TO READ PROPER ENGLISH
> YOU BIG MAC-LOVIN' FROOTCAKE!

Oh, rainbows. I like those.
I didn't know WebTV was that powerful.

Thanks (minus the FROOTCAKE part. What's a FROOTCAKE?)

> cheers
> beable van polasm
> beable industries
> --
> I took mine out to polish it the other day, and before I knew what was
> happening I had run out of the house and slaughtered my next door neighbour,
> her dog, her two siamese cats, a parrot and a passing jogger who happened to
> get in the way. I hate it when that happens. -- Eric of Melbourne
>

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The really funny part is: There is a switch. And that's what's used.
And there are patches that stop the clicking, and disk detection works
just as it should.

No, I have no idea whatsoever what it really does.

On a related note, there's a program that plays "El Condor Pasa" on the
diskdrive. That's scary.

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Nick S Bensema

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1999年1月26日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/26
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In article <78kunk$n...@josie.abo.fi>, Dag ]gren FYSI <dag...@abo.fi> wrote:
>On a related note, there's a program that plays "El Condor Pasa" on the
>[Amiga] diskdrive. That's scary.

Some Commodore 64 program alleged that they can make your 1541 disk
drive SING, at great risk of damaging the drive.

But 1541s were too valuable to risk, and today I can't find the
program on the FTP sites.

And I have a friend who could be driven to laughter by another friend
of mine impersonating all the funny noises a 1541 can make. And I
was driven to laughter by GRINK! GRONK! GRINK! GRONK!

ren...@hotmail.com

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> Three if you count that it's not a Wintel box, but that's about it.

Wintel boxes are only as bad as it's self limiting architecture. Which makes
it pretty bad.

> And it does come with Internet Explorer, so it's really not as
> Wintel-free as it used to be.

I found IE in my cereal box!

> I would say "easier to get on the Internet" like everyone at Apple
> claims but I have a bunch of CDs with flashy colored labels that

Everything about Apple is Flashy!

> make the same claim. And I hope that Apple's definition of the
> Internet isn't limited to one ISP, and if it is, that it ain't
> AOL or, shudder, MSN.

I had a dream once where I was using a MAC with an AOL account. I looked at my
reflection in the monitor and found that "They" had removed half my brain. :)

Joseph Michael Bay

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1999年1月26日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/26
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ni...@primenet.com (Nick S Bensema) writes:

>I actually can't believe anyone would sit down and type rows of
>bytes, six at a time, printed in tiny little print from a magazine,
>for pages and pages, rather than fork over the extra few bucks for
>the disk edition.

What are you talking about, dood? I just recorded it off the radio.

--
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Joseph Michael Bay

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1999年1月26日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/26
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The Avocado Avenger

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1999年1月26日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/26
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ni...@primenet.com (Nick S Bensema) writes:

>In article <78kunk$n...@josie.abo.fi>, Dag ]gren FYSI <dag...@abo.fi> wrote:
>>On a related note, there's a program that plays "El Condor Pasa" on the
>>[Amiga] diskdrive. That's scary.

>Some Commodore 64 program alleged that they can make your 1541 disk
>drive SING, at great risk of damaging the drive.

>But 1541s were too valuable to risk, and today I can't find the
>program on the FTP sites.

1541s are often seen being used as very attractive paperweights.

>And I have a friend who could be driven to laughter by another friend
>of mine impersonating all the funny noises a 1541 can make. And I
>was driven to laughter by GRINK! GRONK! GRINK! GRONK!

I imagine a lot of tongue acrobatics were needed to make a reasonable
1541 sound.
Also, please to note that soda + 1541 = fun for the whole family.

Nick S Bensema

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1999年1月27日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/27
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In article <78livh$qpr$1...@hiram.io.com>,

The Avocado Avenger <sta...@io.com.guacamole> wrote:
>
> 1541s are often seen being used as very attractive paperweights.

BY GIANTS! You forget how huge these things were.

>>And I have a friend who could be driven to laughter by another friend
>>of mine impersonating all the funny noises a 1541 can make. And I
>>was driven to laughter by GRINK! GRONK! GRINK! GRONK!
>
> I imagine a lot of tongue acrobatics were needed to make a reasonable
>1541 sound.

Hey, I... Damn, all of a sudden my straight line detector is going
crazy! I forgot what I was going to say.

> Also, please to note that soda + 1541 = fun for the whole family.

I remember reading a G-file from one BBS about a treatment you could
give to a floppy disk that would destroy any disk it was inserted
into.

Matt McIrvin

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1999年1月27日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/27
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In article <78l4kh$mim$2...@nnrp03.primenet.com>, ni...@primenet.com (Nick S
Bensema) wrote:

>And I have a friend who could be driven to laughter by another friend
>of mine impersonating all the funny noises a 1541 can make. And I
>was driven to laughter by GRINK! GRONK! GRINK! GRONK!

All I had (for a while) was the Atari cassette drive.

MOM Matt! Time for dinner!

/|\ Blllng blllng!

[MATT hits Record and Play.]

/|\ Brkrkrkrkrp! Brkrkrkrkrp! Brkrkrkrkrp!

MOM Gary! Get the phone!

/|\ Brkrkrkrkrp! Brkrkrkrkrp! Brkrkrkrkrp!

DAD It's not the phone, it's Matt's computer.

/|\ Brkrkrkrkrp! Brkrkrkrkrp! Brkrkrkrkrp!

MOM Matt! Time for dinner!

/|\ Brkrkrkrkrp! Brkrkrkrkrp! Brkrkrkrkrp!

MATT Gimme another half hour.

/|\ Brkrkrkrkrp! Brkrkrkrkrp! Brkrkrkrkrp!


[After supper, MATT attempts to load the saved program from the
fifty-cent audio cassette that he saved it on.]

/|\ Blllng!

[MATT hits Play.]

/|\ Brrrrrrrrrp! Brrrrrrrrrrp! Brrrrrrrrrrp!

MOM Is *that* the phone?

/|\ Brrrrrrrrrp! Brrrrrrrrrrp! Brrrrrrrrrrp!

DAD Nah, it's Matt's computer again.

/|\ Brrrrrrrrrp! Bzzzzzzzkkfffft!

[/|\ displays ERROR - 143, Serial Bus Data Frame Checksum Error.]

MATT Aw, crap.

--
Matt McIrvin http://world.std.com/~mmcirvin/

M. Otis Beard

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1999年1月27日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/27
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Nick S Bensema wrote in message <78ivcb$nq2$2...@nnrp03.primenet.com>...

>>Yeah, yer kewl, but did you actually type SpeedScript in by hand from the
>>magazine?
>
>No, but I downloaded it to my Atari at 300 baud, which is close enough
>when you're ten years old and don't realize you can leave the room
>while the download is going on.
>

>I actually can't believe anyone would sit down and type rows of
>bytes, six at a time, printed in tiny little print from a magazine,
>for pages and pages, rather than fork over the extra few bucks for
>the disk edition.


D()()D, when I was a wee lad I thumped away on a teletype, breaking my
fingers and my eyes and my brane until I passed out from exhaustion. I
typed books full of BASIC programs into our Altair, tested them and output
them to yellow paper punch tape. I never even considered buying what I
could hammer in for nothing. . . and downloading stuff was pretty unreliable
at 300 baud without zmodem on a connection that would go all whack-job on
you if someone happened to pick up the telephone while you were downloading.
It was a JOY to type all that code in, and we LIKED it that way! *grumble*

-M. Oldis Beard


Duck Rogers

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> ) D()()D, when I was a wee lad I thumped away on a teletype, breaking my
> ) fingers and my eyes and my brane until I passed out from exhaustion. I
> ) typed books full of BASIC programs into our Altair, tested them and output

One word, O26

Oh and another, drumcard.

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The Avocado Avenger

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1999年1月27日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/27
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ni...@primenet.com (Nick S Bensema) writes:

>The Avocado Avenger <sta...@io.com.guacamole> wrote:

>> Also, please to note that soda + 1541 = fun for the whole family.

>I remember reading a G-file from one BBS about a treatment you could
>give to a floppy disk that would destroy any disk it was inserted
>into.

That's a damn big disk.

Hong Ooi

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1999年1月27日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/27
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On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:39:38 GMT, smj...@my-dejanews.com (Duck Rogers)
wrote:

>> ) D()()D, when I was a wee lad I thumped away on a teletype, breaking my
>> ) fingers and my eyes and my brane until I passed out from exhaustion. I
>> ) typed books full of BASIC programs into our Altair, tested them and output
>
>One word, O26
>
>Oh and another, drumcard.

All you kiddies make me sick. In MY day, we made do without opposable
thumbs. They hadn't evolved yet. That would take another 2 geological
epochs. No, we had to do all our computing with sticks clasped in our
paws, painstakingly etching out glyphic patterns on sandbanks. It really
encouraged programming efficiency when you knew that the next high tide
would erase your core memory. And let me tell you about the forebrain.
Hah! I WISH we had forebrains. Back then, we had A forebrain for the
whole population, and we were PROUD of it. Heck, we even wrote a
time-sharing system for it (if it's Thursday, it's Bob's turn to be a
higher life form). Then someone came up with the fancy-pants idea of
multiple parallel cerebra, instantly turning our work of eons into dust.

Apparently this happens all the time.

--
Hong Ooi | "Was 666, now only 4.95! Markdown of the Beast!!"
ho...@zip.com.au | -- F
Sydney, Australia |

Chris McGonnell

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1999年1月27日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/27
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M. Otis Beard, sounding like Abe Simpson, wrote...

> D()()D, when I was a wee lad I thumped away on a teletype, breaking my
>fingers and my eyes and my brane until I passed out from exhaustion. I
>typed books full of BASIC programs into our Altair, tested them and output
>them to yellow paper punch tape. I never even considered buying what I
>could hammer in for nothing. . . and downloading stuff was pretty
unreliable
>at 300 baud without zmodem on a connection that would go all whack-job on
>you if someone happened to pick up the telephone while you were
downloading.
>It was a JOY to type all that code in, and we LIKED it that way! *grumble*
>
> -M. Oldis Beard


And that's why we old geeks have carpal tunnel syndrome, you dang
whippersnappers! OW!

Chris McG.
"Many of you mock my interest in the pastry sciences." -- O.J. Simpson

Mike Sauve

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1999年1月27日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/27
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Chris McGonnell wrote:
>
> M. Otis Beard, sounding like Abe Simpson, wrote...
> > D()()D, when I was a wee lad I thumped away on a teletype, breaking my
> >fingers and my eyes and my brane until I passed out from exhaustion. I
> >typed books full of BASIC programs into our Altair, tested them and output
> >them to yellow paper punch tape.

You had a ASR-33? I had to live with a KSR, so didn't have the luxury of
paper tape. Mass storage was a #2 and the back of greenbar scavenged
from the dumpster of the local computer center.

Mike

and we sprayed the ribbon with WD-40 to "re-ink" it. And it was a KIM-1,
not an Altair.

Nick S Bensema

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1999年1月27日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/27
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In article <mmcirvin-260...@ppp0a018.std.com>,

Matt McIrvin <mmci...@world.std.com> wrote:
>MOM Is *that* the phone?
>
>/|\ Brrrrrrrrrp! Brrrrrrrrrrp! Brrrrrrrrrrp!
>
>DAD Nah, it's Matt's computer again.
>
>/|\ Brrrrrrrrrp! Bzzzzzzzkkfffft!
>
>[/|\ displays ERROR - 143, Serial Bus Data Frame Checksum Error.]
>
>MATT Aw, crap.

I actually found in my big atari archive of by-now-bit-rotten tapes,
a 10-minute tape with the words "Computer Tape" written in that
Babylon 5 font across the top. And the cassette cover told me why
it was better than a normal tape, but I guess it's because normal
tapes are 90 minutes and 50 cents, instead of 10 minutes and (???)
dollars.

On the other hand, I guess you can make a more durable 10-minute
tape than a 60-minute or 90-minute one. When you get up to 90
minutes on a tape, the tape is really really thin and gets all
broken and stuff if your tape player is too vigorous.

Nick S Bensema

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1999年1月27日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/27
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In article <78mibu$mud$1...@remarQ.com>,

M. Otis Beard <movin...@geocities.com> wrote:
>
> D()()D, when I was a wee lad I thumped away on a teletype, breaking my
>fingers and my eyes and my brane until I passed out from exhaustion. I
>typed books full of BASIC programs into our Altair, tested them and output
>them to yellow paper punch tape. I never even considered buying what I
>could hammer in for nothing. . . and downloading stuff was pretty unreliable
>at 300 baud without zmodem on a connection that would go all whack-job on
>you if someone happened to pick up the telephone while you were downloading.
>It was a JOY to type all that code in, and we LIKED it that way! *grumble*

Dude, I figured Xmodem goes way back to the first BBS, because they were
both invented by the same guy.

Typing in BASIC from a book was better than from a magazine because books
could afford to make the print large enough to read....

besides, I never typed in from a book anything I could design and program
out of my own brain.

Eddie Saxe

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1999年1月27日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/27
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In article <78n549$rta$1...@hiram.io.com>,

The Avocado Avenger <sta...@io.com.guacamole> wrote:
> That's a damn big disk.

Why, thank you. Would you like to see my etchings?

Eddie
--
When life hands you gators, make gatorade.

The Avocado Avenger

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1999年1月28日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/28
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sa...@sgi.com (Eddie Saxe) writes:
>The Avocado Avenger <sta...@io.com.guacamole> wrote:

>> That's a damn big disk.

>Why, thank you. Would you like to see my etchings?

Yay! Does this mean it's sexual innuendo season on ARK again? Wait
here while I go get the spatulas and Vaseline!

Eddie Saxe

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1999年1月28日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/28
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In article <78oc69$llg$1...@hiram.io.com>,

The Avocado Avenger <sta...@io.com.guacamole> wrote:
> Yay! Does this mean it's sexual innuendo season on ARK again?

Until we shoot the last living sexual innuendo, yes.

> Wait here while I go get the spatulas and Vaseline!

UNSUBSCRIBE.

Nick S Bensema

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1999年1月28日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/28
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In article <78oc69$llg$1...@hiram.io.com>,
The Avocado Avenger <sta...@io.com.guacamole> wrote:
>
> Yay! Does this mean it's sexual innuendo season on ARK again?

If by "season" you mean "during the year", yes.

And Vaseline and spatula are too blatant to be innuendo.

Sarah Cherlin

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1999年1月28日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/28
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On 22 Jan 1999 03:16:29 GMT, lot...@aol.comaol.com. (Lots42) wrote:

>Seriously. Do the new fruity colored Imac computers (A.K.A. looks like a
>bowling ball run over by a bulldozer) come WITHOUT disk drives?

Yes, but you do get a free yo-yo. You'll need your own mouse, though.

Martha Stewart suggests that you make sure to integrate your iMac into
the "look" of the surrounding area. For example, if you were using
your iMac inside the house, as a decorative centerpiece or perhaps a
functional but elegant bootscraper, you may want to adjust the decor,
doing the entire room (or house, if you like) over in a cheap
translucent plastic motif. Alternativley, you could have it varnished.

It's fun when the desperately ignorant media people find some piece of
news that they actually think they understand. AMD could suddenly
release a 700 MHz processor for 150 bucks and these people would still
be standing clustered around an iMac, pointing and saying, "Look! It's
a *different* *color*!!"

Unsolicited quote from person in hallway: "I'd like to see Steve Jobs
in a see-through plastic tuxedo."

--
Today's word is: 'yo-yo'


Duck Rogers

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1999年1月28日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/28
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> ) Dude, I figured Xmodem goes way back to the first BBS, because they were
> ) both invented by the same guy.

We didn't have any modems. We had to download files with morse code.

M. Otis Beard

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1999年1月28日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/28
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Chris McGonnell wrote in message <36af5...@news3.paonline.com>...

>
>And that's why we old geeks have carpal tunnel syndrome, you dang
>whippersnappers! OW!

As a matter of fact, I think my right wrist *is* in dire need of some
better ergonomics. It hurts!

Ow.

-M. Arthrotis Beard


M. Otis Beard

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1999年1月28日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/28
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Nick S Bensema wrote in message <78o006$d3b$2...@nnrp03.primenet.com>...

>Typing in BASIC from a book was better than from a magazine because books
>could afford to make the print large enough to read....


>besides, I never typed in from a book anything I could design and program
>out of my own brain.


Heh. I hammered in a boatload of BASIC when I was ten. I wrote my own
stuff, but doing it from the books was neat because I'd learn how to do new
things (or I'd scoff at the pqqpy code). I liked the way that a program I
was typing in would run nice and clean in my head *THE FIRST TIME* I looked
at the code. Then I ran it on the machine and found all my typos.
I don't know how enriching it really *is* to run 'Hunt the Wumpus' in
wetware, but I found it entertaining.

I often wish that I had pursued programming instead of, um. . . *other*
things. I'm not a programmer by any stretch of the imagination, that's fer
shur. Doopy doopy doo, doopy doo duh doo, I'm too damn DUMB to work one o'
them computers.

There's something I remember very vividly from when I was ten years old --
I was writing something (I don't remember what) in BASIC on the Altair
(using Bill Gates' BASIC compiler, may he rot in Heck) and I'd been in hack
mode for waaaaay too many hours, and the whole thing was running in my head,
and it all worked, and it was ready to save to tape. . . and then my
stepmother walked into the room and insisted I go to bed IMMEDIATELY. My
fatigue and the level of hack mode I was in made everything around me seem
like part of the program. I got up and walked into the bathroom and drew a
tub of hot water and got in. The water running, the faucets, the tub
steadily filling -- everything seemed like a manifestation of the BASIC
program I had been writing. I remember the experience so vividly because
when I snapped out of it I suddenly realized that all of my assumptions
about my environment were in profound error, and I was shocked.

Does anyone blah blah blah, or know someone who blah?


-M. Otis Beard


The Avocado Avenger

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1999年1月28日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/28
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ni...@primenet.com (Nick S Bensema) writes:
>The Avocado Avenger <sta...@io.com.guacamole> wrote:
>>
>> Yay! Does this mean it's sexual innuendo season on ARK again?

>If by "season" you mean "during the year", yes.

>And Vaseline and spatula are too blatant to be innuendo.

The irony is overwhelming.

Sarah Cherlin

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1999年1月28日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/28
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On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:44:31 -0800, "M. Otis Beard"
<movin...@geocities.com> wrote:

> As a matter of fact, I think my right wrist *is* in dire need of some
>better ergonomics. It hurts!

I don't see how quoting syllogisms at it could really help much.

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bea...@my-dejanews.com

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1999年1月29日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/29
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In article <78oc69$llg$1...@hiram.io.com>,
sta...@io.com.guacamole (The Avocado Avenger) wrote:

> sa...@sgi.com (Eddie Saxe) writes:
> >The Avocado Avenger <sta...@io.com.guacamole> wrote:
>
> >> That's a damn big disk.
>
> >Why, thank you. Would you like to see my etchings?
>
> Yay! Does this mean it's sexual innuendo season on ARK again? Wait

> here while I go get the spatulas and Vaseline!

Did you hear about the newlyweds who couldn't
tell the difference between vaseline and putty?
ALL THEIR WINDOWS FELL OUT!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

cheers
beable van polasm
--
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of Tribulations. There is a low-pressure center over Satanism, with
Globalism, Liberalism, and Kings Of The East sighted over Beast Government
-- James "Kibo" Parry

David DeLaney

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1999年1月29日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/29
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The Avocado Avenger <sta...@io.com.guacamole> wrote:
>ni...@primenet.com (Nick S Bensema) writes:
>>The Avocado Avenger <sta...@io.com.guacamole> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yay! Does this mean it's sexual innuendo season on ARK again?
>
>>If by "season" you mean "during the year", yes.
>
>>And Vaseline and spatula are too blatant to be innuendo.
>
> The irony is overwhelming.

I'm personally waiting to be overwhelmed by the irony, myself.

Dave "And Godot. IYKWStaciaM." DeLaney
--
\/David DeLaney d...@panacea.phys.utk.edu "It's not the pot that grows the flower
It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
http://panacea.phys.utk.edu/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ/ I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.

M. Otis Beard

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1999年1月29日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/29
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Sarah Cherlin wrote in message <36b0b45...@news.earthlink.net>...

>On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:44:31 -0800, "M. Otis Beard"
><movin...@geocities.com> wrote:
>
>> As a matter of fact, I think my right wrist *is* in dire need of some
>>better ergonomics. It hurts!
>
>I don't see how quoting syllogisms at it could really help much.


It couldn't hoit!


-M. Otis Beard


macnair

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1999年1月29日 凌晨3:00:001999/1/29
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All hoits need ergonomics. Mr Beard's arm is a hM. Otis Beard
wrote:
> -M. Otis Beard All hoits need ergonomics. Mr Beard's arm is a hoit. Therefore... Toci

Alex Suter

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1999年2月4日 凌晨3:00:001999/2/4
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Thus spake david lynch <dfly...@louisville.edu>:

>bea...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
>> Did you hear about the newlyweds who couldn't
>> tell the difference between vaseline and putty?
>> ALL THEIR WINDOWS FELL OUT!
>> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!
>
>I don't get it.

Well you know how newlyweds are all the time sticking
their bits and pieces into things that unmarried people
can't? Like windowpanes and vaseline jars and such? Well,
these folks got all confused in the head and tried to
get comic strips to print backwards on their whatnots,
which is humorous, especially on Cinemax.

Just goes to show.

Fiercely unmarried,
Alex


--
Alex Suter
http://world.std.com/~asuter/
"In Vino Veritas"

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