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On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 20:10:20 GMT, Mjølnër <mio...@ragnarok.org> wrote:

>On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:34:26 -0800, ledgerDeMain <ma...@me.not.invalid> in
><2bis8ugmi6ugpnbaj...@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I do not support what is currently occurring in abwi0. The abwi faq
>>should not have been used in abwi0, that group already had an operative
>>faq.
>>
>>I must now decry their actions and attitudes in regards to abw* and
>>specifically abwi0. Between this and xposting binaries between abwi0 &
>>abwi, these posters have also managed to drag abwi into the ongoing
>>flames and sporges.
>
>
>That is fucking IT!!!
>
>You blame US for AKOOKLA'S SPORGE RUNS?
>
>Apologize immediately, and make a full retraction, if and when you can manage to
>get your head out of your ass. This is not a joke. You make up your mind, right
>now!

ledgerDeMain was an akulaK00K KaMP st00ge and professional w0rd twist3r from
the VERY BEGINNING, Mjølnër. Only difference is.....Ledgie carries a Websters
pocket dictionary!

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ldmSPNAK@bushwa

This time Ledgie CAN'T go back because he's _PGP Signed_ his association and
friendship with TazManic, a _known_ NARC !

http://groups.google.com/groups?th=9718a9eff98ce422&ic=1

It was easier for Ledgie in 2000 November, but he STILL managed to show his
k00k kolors even then..........

Back in 2000 November, aK00Kla ordered a posting HALT in abcdi0 but one man
posting 0-day CD images there decided NOT to obey him- one man who decided
to continue posting anyway. That was Spineless Bore Man. It was Spineless
Bore Man who decided he wanted to keep posting on-topic, fresh, 0-day iSOs
that he had. It was Spineless Bore Man who did _not_ obey aK00Kla's order to
HALT. Spineless came there to post 0-day iSOs. He didn't know he had to be
part of the akulaK00k KaMP and follow aK00Kla's orders to post there too.

After aK00Kla threatened Spineless that the HALT would continue until his
posts expired, and told Spineless the HALT would go on even LONGER if he
_dared_ to keep posting more on-topic material, ledgerDaPain came in out of
nowhere and tried word-twisting Spineless into getting the fuck out...........

From: abcdi...@use.net (abcdi0-FAQ)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.cd.image.0-day
Subject: abcdi0: Posting HALT remains in effect - read inside
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:34:28 GMT
Message-ID: <3f3a3f6288....@news.sharks.plc.ltd>
Followup-To: alt.binaries.cd.image.tools.d

The posting HALT will not be lifted until sometime
after "Spineless Bore Man"'s deliberately disruptive
posts expire.

Any other binary posts of similar nature will prolong
the HALT.

Once the HALT is lifted, Spiny Norman will resume the
dodcd103 post at day 4.

________________________________________________________________________________

From: we...@nd.timid (Spineless Bore Man)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.cd.image.0-day,alt.binaries.cd.image.tools.d
Subject: Re: abcdi0: Posting HALT remains in effect - read inside
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:43:30 -0900
Message-ID: <3d06a2e8....@news.alt.net>

On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:34:28 GMT, abcdi...@use.net (abcdi0-FAQ)
wrote:

>The posting HALT will not be lifted until sometime
>after "Spineless Bore Man"'s deliberately disruptive
>posts expire.

The definition of disruption very simply means,

"to throw into disorder"

This newsgroup was running smoothly until YOU ordered the posting
halted. The group was then thrown into disorder because a post had not
been finished and YOU were hanging it, like a prize, just out of reach
of everyone saying stuff like,

"Until you agree to follow the abcdi0 FAQ, posting will not resume"

Are you crazy, drunk or on drugs?

"As soon as his posts expire from alt.net, you probably will see the
post resumed."

Note the "probably".

"CD3 is not critical anyway"

Hinting that, if the post weren't finished it was no big deal.

And finally this one,

"He may have this archive, but he definitely does not
have many others listed at http://www.isonews.com/ ,

Hinting that, you will be playing this little exercise in disciplinary
ass kissing patience again soon. What you are saying is that the next
post that goes up and you decide to halt because someones feelings are
hurt won't be able to be finished the way this one was because no one
else will have all the parts to finish it.

YOU threw your own group into disorder and disrupted it by stopping
the flow of data when there was no real cause to do so. I resumed the
normal flow of data and now there is no "probably" about the rest of
the pieces being posted.

You ARE a nut case akula. You want to be THE MAN but you haven't a
clue how to hold it all together. There are leaders and followers and
you are a born follower akula. Your organizational skills may be good
but your leadership and communication skills suck. If your only intent
for this group was to just post images then none of this petty shit
should matter.

________________________________________________________________________________

From: sre...@subdimension.com (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.cd.image.tools.d
Subject: Re: abcdi0: Posting HALT remains in effect - read inside
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 21:07:54 GMT
Message-ID: <3f3a2ac050...@news.sharks.plc.ltd>

On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:43:30 -0900, we...@nd.timid (Spineless Bore Man) wrote:

[snip]

The HALT will not be lifted until every last byte you've posted expires.
Period.

You have the responsibility to either continue screwing over the silent
majority, or comply and allow abcdi0 to work the way I intended it to.
You can weasle-word all you want, but the intent of the charter and FAQ
are clear.

You've also discouraged other posters I've lined up.

Don't bother following up - either comply with the HALT or continue your
one man vendetta against the majority of people who are grateful for the
resumption of posting of quality 0-day images. You are not screwing me
over at all.

________________________________________________________________________________

From: we...@nd.timid (Spineless Bore Man)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.cd.image.0-day,alt.binaries.cd.image.tools.d
Subject: Re: abcdi0: Posting HALT remains in effect - read inside
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:12:00 -0900
Message-ID: <3d07c10c....@news.alt.net>

On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 21:07:54 GMT, sre...@subdimension.com (tiburón)
wrote:

>Don't bother following up - either comply with the HALT or continue your
>one man vendetta against the majority of people who are grateful for the
>resumption of posting of quality 0-day images. You are not screwing me
>over at all.

Vendetta? You're nuts akula.... Loco....

________________________________________________________________________________

From: sre...@subdimension.com (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.cd.image.tools.d
Subject: Re: abcdi0: Posting HALT remains in effect - read inside
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 22:07:01 GMT
Message-ID: <3f3a2fcf3b...@news.sharks.plc.ltd>

On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:12:00 -0900, we...@nd.timid (Spineless Bore Man) wrote:

[snip]

The HALT lifts when the offending binaries expire from alt.net at the earliest.
Period.

End of discussion.

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From: ledgerDeMain <ma...@me.not.invalid>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.cd.image.tools.d
Subject: Re: abcdi0: Posting HALT remains in effect - read inside
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:19:48 -0800
Message-ID: <lDMg5jd2ts8a37v57v...@4ax.com>

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In article <3d06a2e8....@news.alt.net>, we...@nd.timid
(Spineless Bore Man) wrote:

[snip]
>
>The definition of disruption very simply means,
>
> "to throw into disorder"
>
>This newsgroup was running smoothly until YOU ordered the posting
>halted. The group was then thrown into disorder because a post had
>not been finished and YOU were hanging it, like a prize, just out of
>reach of everyone saying stuff like,
>
>"Until you agree to follow the abcdi0 FAQ, posting will not resume"
>
>Are you crazy, drunk or on drugs?
>
>
>"As soon as his posts expire from alt.net, you probably will see the
>post resumed."
>
>Note the "probably".
>
>
>"CD3 is not critical anyway"
>
>Hinting that, if the post weren't finished it was no big deal.
>
>
>And finally this one,
>
>He may have this archive, but he definitely does not
>have many others listed at http://www.isonews.com/ ,
>
>Hinting that, you will be playing this little exercise in
>disciplinary ass kissing patience again soon. What you are saying is
>that the next post that goes up and you decide to halt because
>someones feelings are hurt won't be able to be finished the way this
>one was because no one else will have all the parts to finish it.
>
>YOU threw your own group into disorder and disrupted it by stopping
>the flow of data when there was no real cause to do so. I resumed
>the normal flow of data and now there is no "probably" about the
>rest of the pieces being posted.
>
>You ARE a nut case akula. You want to be THE MAN but you haven't a
>clue how to hold it all together. There are leaders and followers
>and you are a born follower akula. Your organizational skills may be
>good but your leadership and communication skills suck. If your only
>intent for this group was to just post images then none of this
>petty shit
>should matter.
>
Greetz Spineless Bore Man ..

I find your assertions to be erroneous and your reasoning more than a
couple of degrees off kilter. Altogether as sophistic a harangue as
I've seen (at least in the last hour or so <g>). Off-topic static was
on the increase in spite of multilple, and entirely justified and
fairly worded, abcdi0 FAQ warnings. The posting halt was not the
cause, as you assert, but was an effect of these warnings going
unheeded.

While some of this static can be attributed to inexperience and/or
inattentiveness on the part of others, it is you who have conciously
and with malice of forethought chosen to disrupt this group. You
thumb your nose at the people who have worked so hard to setup and
contribute here by unilaterally ignoring the posting halt, then
having the cheek to obfuscate and hurl insults in an effort to
justify your actions. Even with this missive I'm replying to, you've
refused to follow the group's faq and move to the appropriate
discussion group.

If you truly believe "this petty shit" doesn't matter, then please go
play in the rest of the image groups where others that feel as you do
currently reign supreme.

G'day.
- --
ledgerDeMain

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From: throw...@hotmail.com (Neo)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.cd.image.tools.d
Subject: Re: abcdi0: Posting HALT remains in effect - read inside
Message-ID: <bCAV5.2203$Xs2....@e420r-atl1.usenetserver.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 22:34:47 GMT

KBu...@DeHoco.cell1.net (KBucky) wrote in
<amhd2to6b3t90tqtj...@4ax.com>:

>On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 21:07:54 GMT, sre...@subdimension.com (tiburón)
>wrote:
>
>>The HALT will not be lifted until every last byte you've posted
>>expires. Period.
>>
>>Don't bother following up - either comply with the HALT or continue
>>your one man vendetta against the majority of people who are grateful
>>for the resumption of posting of quality 0-day images. You are not
>>screwing me over at all.
>
>
>Hey! I have an idea Akula......fuckoff
>

I second that motion.

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From: Mjølnër <mio...@ragnarok.org>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc.d
Subject: Re: The Daily Warezfaq - Thursday Edition
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 21:28:52 GMT
Message-ID: <qors8uc7vcurvtncr...@ppn.ragnarok.org>

Beautiful indictment! Just beautiful!

Clearly ledger *is* nothing more than a stooge, and is as devoid of objectivity
in this as any of the other akookla toadies.

Well, I think this pretty-much caps it for lDM then; any semblance of
impartiality or objectivity he might have wanted to project is *completely*
discredited.

Clearly he would be happier if he packed-up and went to whatever groups akookla
has formed, and stayed there- sucking on that sere teat. He's proven himself to
be far too hypocritical to continue here with either credibility or respect.

These groups will continue to operate, free and open to ALL, not just to ONE
*exclusive* kook-KuLt, and that is *obviously* not to his liking.

Thanks for the invaluable proof of ledgerDeMain's true character and position!

Cya

Mjølnër

From: Mjølnër <mio...@ragnarok.org>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc.d
Subject: Re: BlindWrite.Suite.v1.2.3.0.International.WinALL-EAGLE - ea-bt133.zip (1/7)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 21:43:43 GMT
Message-ID: <jcts8ucpi0t3m4nks...@ppn.ragnarok.org>

Too bad they won't post in an INCLUSIVE Usenet newsgroup- Usenet the way it has
always been INTENDED to be.

Ah me, the hypocrisy of it all is overwhelming!

I say to them post! Post any way you want to.
They say to everyone else- "If you post, we won't, ever!" -

Then they accuse me of censorship. <G>

And fuckwit ledgerDeMain joins that chorus, moreover blaming the WebFAQ crew for
the sporge runs in ABWID, ABWI0 and ABWI! Never once a whisper to the sporger, or
to his mentor- only to the targets of the sporge runs. What a maroon! What an
ignoramus!

Cya

Mjølnër

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Mjølnër is the primary author of the Usenet WarezFAQ at http://www.warezfaq.org/

The "ledgerDeMain Gets SPNAKED/Bushwa" URL was updated in the above to reflect a
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