Obsession
Karlo Takki
Today's Boston Globe has an item about a Nashua, NH man who
shot and killed the object of his obsession and then himself.
What makes this newsworthy enough for Page 1 (below the fold)
is that for seven years, Liam Youens told everybody about his
obsession with Amy Boyer. Including the internet.
Still up:
http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/Floor/8625/
404'd:
http://www.tripod.com/amyboyer
If you really want background, "Liam Youens" is a rather unique
search string. He's also signed the guestbooks at a site
dedicated to serial killers and mass murderers and also a
"Trolls 'n' Tunnels" site. Killer nrrrrrd!
On a Bumgarneresque note, the internet angle gives this story
a faux-millenial frisson that simple stalking and murder can't
achieve.
k.
--
"In spite of everything, I still believe that people are
really good at heart." - Anne Frank
Michael Jaffo Duff
:
:Today's Boston Globe has an item about a Nashua, NH man who
:shot and killed the object of his obsession and then himself.
:What makes this newsworthy enough for Page 1 (below the fold)
:is that for seven years, Liam Youens told everybody about his
:obsession with Amy Boyer. Including the internet.
:
:Still up:
:http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/Floor/8625/
See, this is something the internet allows that I just did NOT want to see. I
didn't realize how much of my reality was filtered through the mainstream
media until the net brought shit like this right into my face.
My first "too close" moment was when I hit the Heaven's Gate web site, hours
after the story broke.
Seeing those animated graphics, reading the words of lunatics made the tragedy
seem intimate and personal to me.
And now it's happening again. The people on this web site are so damn
ORDINARY.
Moments like this make me feel like the whole world is one big bomb waiting to
go off.
It's a false perception, of course. Under normal circumstances, this web page
wouldn't even make a dent on my consciousness, but the two corpses make it
real.
And in a strange way, this stuff makes me grateful for the sanitizing
blandness of the mainstream press.
Followups directed out of ARK.
Jaffo
--
On Larry King Live, Marlon Brando made the shocking statement that
Hollywood is "run by Jews." In response, outraged Jewish groups made it
snow in New York in April.
WWS
Karlo Takki wrote:
>
> Today's Boston Globe has an item about a Nashua, NH man who
> shot and killed the object of his obsession and then himself.
> What makes this newsworthy enough for Page 1 (below the fold)
> is that for seven years, Liam Youens told everybody about his
> obsession with Amy Boyer. Including the internet.
>
> Still up:
> http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/Floor/8625/
My god, it's like Dawson's creek gone psycho killer.
>
> 404'd:
> http://www.tripod.com/amyboyer
>
> If you really want background, "Liam Youens" is a rather unique
> search string. He's also signed the guestbooks at a site
> dedicated to serial killers and mass murderers and also a
> "Trolls 'n' Tunnels" site. Killer nrrrrrd!
This tears it, I'm now sure of something I've been thinking of
for a long time. We need to pass and enforce a law that will
send anyone who creates a pathetic and obsessive webpage to jail
for a long, long time. Of course, this will need to apply to
pages about celebrities and to anything else we deem "improper",
as well. And I think that the highest penalty of all should be
reserved for anyone who sets up a "vanity page", evidence of self
obsession if there ever was one!
Now how to enforce this? I think we stable, ennobled posters here
discussing this should be allowed to vote on those who need jailing.
This innovation could do away with grand juries and with lengthy
legal procedures, and of course the defendant would be allowed to
post a defense which we could all ridicule before he was sentenced.
The new motto of the Usenet will be: Everything you say can and WILL
be used against you!!
Yep, that's the future as I see it.
--
__________________________________________________WWS_____________
I haven't been paying attention, but I'm interested in picking a
side to be on! - dk
Mortis
which WWS <wsch...@tyler.net> typed:
>Yep, that's the future as I see it.
Dear Dr. Mr. WuhWuhS:
I am interested in a position on the highest levels of your
upcoming oligarchy. I am a well-trained Creature of the Night who
delights in Naughty and Evil Things. Mass murder and/or genocide
would not be a problem. If you have or will have any openings for a
wraith, please contact me. I can be reached in the UEH Graveyard
Headquarters, near Newark, NJ.
Sincerely Yours,
Mortis
James Kibo Parry
...is it my imagination, or is the Boston Globe the only newspaper
any Kibologists read? That and "Mondo 2000".
HEY I BET IN TWO YEARS, "MONDO 2000" WILL SEEM LAME!
> about a Nashua, NH man who shot and killed the object of his
> obsession and then himself.
In that order?
> What makes this newsworthy enough for Page 1 (below the fold)
> is that for seven years, Liam Youens told everybody about his
> obsession with Amy Boyer. Including the internet.
He didn't tell ME! I have kept obsessive diaries detailing the actions
of every stalker on the Internet, and have been collecting night-vision
photos of them sleeping in their beds, and I've been stealing their
garbage and being really careful to put it back somewhere in their yard
the next day. And I can't find any evidence that Liam Youens told me.
Searching for "Youens" and "Boyer" in the alt.religion.kibology archives
turned up this:
! Anyway, my own personal collection of books consists mostly
! of history of math type of books. I find more technical books
! to boring to read, much less own. Eves book is one of the best
! history books on math that I have seen. Boyer's book is another.
!
! -- Ludwig Plutonium in alt.religion.kibology, August 1994
And one post by a Mr. Boyer who accidentally coined the meme "...you donut rat!"
: The people responsible for terminating Martin Leisses account and getting
: him investigated by the police and SS (Secret Service) are rats who have
: violated basic rules of human decency, one of which is, you donet rat on
: someone to the secret police.
: -- Daniel C. Boyer, July 1994
/ "donet rat." I predict this phrase will become the next "beable"
/ of the net.
/ -- P. Fritz Cronheim, July 1994
< I resent this sort of unbiased slander. You have sullied my name in
< public, and I demand an enemic retration!
<
< -- "ber...@xmission.com" (Roger Bryner), July 1994
) let's see, would an enemic retration be somrthing that you donet rat
) to a beable?
) -- P. Fritz Cronheim, July 1994
[back to Karlo Takki talking about the crazed stalker's Web sites...]
>
> Still up:
> http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/Floor/8625/
>
> 404'd:
> http://www.tripod.com/amyboyer
I like how he loved his high school sweetheart^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hstalkee
so much that not only did he name his Web sites after her, he named
his E-mail address after her! From the first page:
-> If your server causes the pictures to be out of alignment,
-> or if you have any questions please e-mail me at amyb...@prodigy.net
Yeah. How the hell could my Web server make YOUR pictures be out of
alignment? They're on YOUR server, you dweeb! That's right, I called
you a dweeb. What're you gonna do, kill me?
HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO BE A GOOD STALKER IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO
OPERATE A WEB SERVER?
(I also like that his site has pictures of all of her friends, and
a page titled "MINOR PEOPLE" which is marked "UNDER CONSTRUCTION".
I wonder when the late Mr. Youens will finish his Minor People's Page.)
> If you really want background, "Liam Youens" is a rather unique
> search string. He's also signed the guestbooks at a site
> dedicated to serial killers and mass murderers and also a
> "Trolls 'n' Tunnels" site. Killer nrrrrrd!
I just want to meet a killer dweeb who becomes obsessed with the
movie "Mazes & Monsters" and starts pretending he's Tom Hanks and
has to develop three extremely stupid friends who don't notice
the signs and then he goes insane at the top of the World Trade Center
and then wins back-to-back Oscars. For something else, of course.
> On a Bumgarneresque note, the internet angle gives this story
> a faux-millenial frisson that simple stalking and murder can't
> achieve.
He also posted (on his Web site) a short story written by an aquaintance
in school, and it's all about how he's going to grow up to be a psycho:
-> Gramme was not a member of youth group when I was there,
-> but he was a friend of Bethannie's. I knew him from writing class,
-> though I had never spoken to him. I'm sure he talked about me,
-> but he never wrote about me until the February incident occured.
-> When I had read the story ironically only he and his friend were
-> there; his friend wrote some less creative things earlier;
-> I pretended not to notice.
-> Young Willem always wanted to belong. Unfortunately, he never
-> really did, though. Willem was a rather quiet child, a trait
-> born from his extremely low self-esteem. He was withdrawn,
-> unwilling to approach others, instead he stood and watched the
-> others, hoping one of them would approach him. His extreme lack
-> of self-confidence paved the path for his loney, desperate
-> childhood.
->
-> Willem was always an outsider looking in, wishing to join in the
-> fun other youngsters shared, yet not wanting to be seen,
-> reproachful of large crowds for fear of being humiliatedd.
->
-> He remembered one particularly regretful moment in his dull,
-> uneventful childhood that he wishes he could do over again. It
-> was the summer of his eleventh year, at a sword fighting
-> tournament in which almost all the village boys participated.
-> Now of course they did not use real swords, and Willem was
-> thankful because he probably would have stumbled and speared
-> himself with it, but wooden blades, flat like a paddle with a
-> blunted tip. Willem was reclused from the crowd, standing alone
-> away from the small crowd of gatherers that cheered on their
-> champions to victory. Willem was alone, like a daisy sprouting
-> up from a field of grass. No wait a minute, it was actually more
-> like an acorn that had fallen off it's tree, helplessly cut off
-> from the other.
->
-> Willem had watched with excitement, his mind forgetting about
-> the competition and drifting away like smoke into another one of
-> his daydreams. These daydreams were one of they ways Willem kept
-> his sanity in his loney life. Willem pictured himself as the
-> Queen's Champion, awarrior who stood above the others, his
-> followers. But the happy fantasy turned sour, as the Queen and
-> all the followers had the faces of the villagers of his town.
-> How can I be a Champion? I can't even muster the courage to talk
-> to them? Willem was at rock-bottom now. He knew that wherever he
-> went, there would be people just like the ones surrounding him
-> now, that he would have to communicate with. He knew they would
-> look at him and laugh at his lanky appearance the way he was
-> sure everyone else did.
->
-> Under Construction 2/3rds more to copy
I'd love to know how the story turned out. Did Liam/Willem/Liwem/Mawim/Limon
grow up to be The Queen's Champion or did he just go nuts and shoot himself?
NOW WE'LL NEVER KNOW!
Note that Liam's site keeps talking about "the February Incident" and
"the current situation" but the page for "The Situation" is still
"Under Construction". Pardon my "quotes".
His Web site also has some poems, which must have been A Sad Cry For Help
because they sure ain't poetry:
-> untitled no 1
->
-> Where I am noone will see me
-> People only can when they are far
-> Curled up in myself is where I belong
-> The pain leaves me empty waiting to die
->
-> [continues about suicide, followed by two more poems about suicide]
I think that either his school psychiatrist didn't see that, or
else they just said, "Well, maybe he'll just grow up to be MTV's 'Daria'."
His guestbook contained these as the final two entries:
-> Nice page. Very informative. Keep it up.
-> Liam Youens shot and killed Amy Boyer on Friday, 18 Oct. 99,
-> outside her workplace before turning the gun on himself.
WOW, I BET NOW THAT FIRST PERSON FEELS STUPID ABOUT THEIR COMMENT!
-- K.
Maybe someone should write a
program to automatically scan
the Web looking for sites that
drop heavy hints of being written
by future serial killers, and
then send those people some gifts
to keep them busy so they won't
go nuts. Like, a "Doom" game.
Chris Costello
> Karlo Takki (kta...@xensei.com) wrote:
>>
>> Today's Boston Globe has an item
> ...is it my imagination, or is the Boston Globe the only newspaper
> any Kibologists read? That and "Mondo 2000".
News... paper? You mean they print out newsgroups in Boston?
> Yeah. How the hell could my Web server make YOUR pictures be out of
> alignment? They're on YOUR server, you dweeb! That's right, I called
> you a dweeb. What're you gonna do, kill me?
> HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO BE A GOOD STALKER IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO
> OPERATE A WEB SERVER?
If it's a Windows 98 "Personal" (cheap) Web Server, does it
count?
> -- K.
> Maybe someone should write a
> program to automatically scan
> the Web looking for sites that
> drop heavy hints of being written
> by future serial killers, and
> then send those people some gifts
> to keep them busy so they won't
> go nuts. Like, a "Doom" game.
Do you remember that old game for the Apple II (that they
probably still play with at Houston public schools) called
"Sneakers"? That's the game that drives people to being serial
killers. Those pesky space rounds are too hard! But there's a
pattern I forgot a few years ago.
- Chris Costello <ch...@FreeBSD.org>
Mr. Hole
Texan "WWS" <wsch...@tyler.net> typed:
>>Yep, that's the future as I see it.
>Dear Dr. Mr. WuhWuhS:
>I am interested in a position on the
>highest levels of your upcoming oligarchy.
As do I. Yes, it saddens me that one of the first do be accused might be
The Captain, but I`m sure I`ll get over it.
>I am a well-trained Creature of the Night
>who delights in Naughty and Evil Things.
>Mass murder and/or genocide would not
>be a problem. If you have or will have any
>openings for a wraith, please contact me.
>I can be reached in the UEH Graveyard
>Headquarters, near Newark, NJ.
Camden, NJ. is a much scarier place.
>Sincerely Yours,
>Mortis
Mr. Hole
This post may cause DROWSINESS, ALCOHOL may intensify this effect, use
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How's your hole..........family?
williwaw
sulfanilamide
WWS
"Mr. Hole" wrote:
>
> That crazy man-child ri...@mindspring.com (Mortis) and the even crazier
> Texan "WWS" <wsch...@tyler.net> typed:
>
> >>Yep, that's the future as I see it.
>
> >Dear Dr. Mr. WuhWuhS:
> >I am interested in a position on the
> >highest levels of your upcoming oligarchy.
>
> As do I. Yes, it saddens me that one of the first do be accused might be
> The Captain, but I`m sure I`ll get over it.
He's always been one of the first accused, of most anything, really.
Not just in this life, either. He wouldn't have it any other way.
>
> >I am a well-trained Creature of the Night
> >who delights in Naughty and Evil Things.
> >Mass murder and/or genocide would not
> >be a problem. If you have or will have any
> >openings for a wraith, please contact me.
> >I can be reached in the UEH Graveyard
> >Headquarters, near Newark, NJ.
>
> Camden, NJ. is a much scarier place.
I think both of you would be extremely useful - wraiths are
unmatched for intelligence gathering and surveillance activities,
and in planning mass confusion and subversive activities, I think
Mr. Hole's experience with his family reunions gives him an
unequaled advantage in that area.
--
__________________________________________________WWS_____________
Idiocy abhors a vacuum, but it also abhors a room full of
people it isn't currently in, and so crashes the party. - jdn
Teg Pipes
> Today's Boston Globe has an item about a Nashua, NH man who
> shot and killed the object of his obsession and then himself.
> What makes this newsworthy enough for Page 1 (below the fold)
> is that for seven years, Liam Youens told everybody about his
> obsession with Amy Boyer. Including the internet.
>
> Still up:
> http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/Floor/8625/
>
> 404'd:
> http://www.tripod.com/amyboyer
>
> If you really want background, "Liam Youens" is a rather unique
> search string. He's also signed the guestbooks at a site
> dedicated to serial killers and mass murderers and also a
> "Trolls 'n' Tunnels" site. Killer nrrrrrd!
>
> On a Bumgarneresque note, the internet angle gives this story
> a faux-millenial frisson that simple stalking and murder can't
> achieve.
OK, so I looked. Things are slow in the lab today and I decided
to stoop to the internet equivalent of rubbernecking.
Am I the only one who noticed that this page links to Motis's page?
http://www.schoolnews.com/det_stud.cfm?student_id=51945%2E0&yr=1997
Are you all trolling me, or is this as spooky as it seems?
-Teg
Mortis
holef...@webtv.net (Mr. Hole) typed:
>That crazy man-child ri...@mindspring.com (Mortis) and the even crazier
>Texan "WWS" <wsch...@tyler.net> typed:
>
>>>Yep, that's the future as I see it.
>
>
>>Dear Dr. Mr. WuhWuhS:
>>I am interested in a position on the
>>highest levels of your upcoming oligarchy.
>
>As do I. Yes, it saddens me that one of the first do be accused might be
>The Captain, but I`m sure I`ll get over it.
>
>>who delights in Naughty and Evil Things.
>>Mass murder and/or genocide would not
>>be a problem. If you have or will have any
>>openings for a wraith, please contact me.
>>I can be reached in the UEH Graveyard
>>Headquarters, near Newark, NJ.
>
>Camden, NJ. is a much scarier place.
Perhaps, but Newark is the "Murder Capitol of the World".
("Ahhh, fresh victims for my ever-growing army of the undead!"[1])
[1] I so totally forgot what movie this is from. Army of Darkness
maybe.
Mortis
Master of the Unknown, KPS
Nebulosis Defunctus
"Oh, who shall from this dungeon raise
A soul enslaved so many ways?
With bolts of bones, that fettered stands
In feet, and manacled in hands;
Here blinded with an eye, and there
Deaf with the drumming of an ear;
A soul hung up, as 'twere, in chains
Of nerves, and arteries, and veins;
Tortured, besides each other part,
In a vain head, and double heart."
-Andrew Marvell, "A Dialogue Between the Soul and Body"
Steven Meece
Karlo Takki (kta...@xensei.com) writes:
> man who
> shot and killed the object of his obsession and then himself.
> What makes this newsworthy enough for Page 1 (below the fold)
> is that for seven years, ~ told everybody about his
> obsession with ~. Including the internet.
? THF
? KMM
?
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