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poon

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Jan 15, 2003, 2:17:50 PM1/15/03
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For those using Feurio with a well-published serial/license number, the
program has a piracy protection feature with burns some high-pitch squeals
and a monotone voice which says "illegal copy" in a drab Hun accent. On a CD
this "feature" made its appearance around the 20m mark; not sure if this
"feature" randomly inserts this data or the 20m mark is the magic number.
The high-pitch squeals are extremely loud and if they don't damage your
stereo system, they will do a number on your ears if the volume is already
high. The program gives no apparent notice of which serial/license numbers
are blacklisted. All I can say is that these are sneaky huns; fortunately
there are work-arounds.

If anyone has further infomation to Feurio's piracy protections, especially
when the squeals are applied please reply.


daytripper

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Jan 15, 2003, 3:46:55 PM1/15/03
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heh heh...gotta give them snaps for pushing the envelope on copyright
protection ;-

smh

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Jan 15, 2003, 5:03:06 PM1/15/03
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. ---------------------------------
cRoxio / Acraptec

Trashy company that picks Trashes
as its beta testers
---------------------------------

Search Google for "Voice from Hell".

Jens Fangmeier

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Jan 16, 2003, 6:10:24 PM1/16/03
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 19:17:50 GMT, "poon" <po...@poontan.org> wrote:

>For those using Feurio with a well-published serial/license number, the
>program has a piracy protection feature with burns some high-pitch squeals
>and a monotone voice which says "illegal copy" in a drab Hun accent. On a CD
>this "feature" made its appearance around the 20m mark; not sure if this
>"feature" randomly inserts this data or the 20m mark is the magic number.
>The high-pitch squeals are extremely loud and if they don't damage your
>stereo system, they will do a number on your ears if the volume is already
>high. The program gives no apparent notice of which serial/license numbers
>are blacklisted. All I can say is that these are sneaky huns; fortunately

First: This is not true.
If a number is blacklisted, it would be rejected directly when
entering it.

This only occurs when you are using code-numbers generated from
serial-generators.

Reson for this:
If a direct box apears (code is wrong), it is quit easy for crackers
to debug this and make a correct code-generator.
But if the action does no appear immidiatly, this is hard to debug.

N.b: There is no chance to have this by error - the feurio! codes
consists of many diffent checks.
Most are checked directly when entering the code - but some are
checked later.

So a misstyped / blacklisten number is rejected directly at entering
codes.
This only happends when entering codes from so claimed "100% correct
code generatos".

>there are work-arounds.

Best work around: Goto http://www.feurio.com/English/Register any buy
a correct code.

Second: YOU HAVE BEED WARNED!
As stated in the dialog:

Feurio! is saved against illegal codes (pirate copies) in several
ways. The usage of codes not authorized from us will be at your own
risk!


>If anyone has further infomation to Feurio's piracy protections, especially
>when the squeals are applied please reply.

Tschau, Jens

--
Jens Fangmeier * je...@feurio.de
Feurio! - The program for burning audio-CDs:
http://www.feurio.net or http://www.feurio.de

poon

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Jan 17, 2003, 2:04:59 AM1/17/03
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> First: This is not true.
> If a number is blacklisted, it would be rejected directly when
> entering it.
>
> This only occurs when you are using code-numbers generated from
> serial-generators.

I presume you are the creator of Feurio, you sneaky Hun, or an imposter. The
serial/license in question was not generated from a serial-generator and
everything seems to indicate the program is properly registered, until an
occasional CD comes out with the high-pitch beeping followed by your dead
voice (I presume) saying "illegal copy" followed by the same high-pitch
beeping; the beeping looks like a sawtooth pattern. From a deutsch site I
have gathered that for every 15 CDs burned the blacklisted Feurio burns a CD
with the aforementioned beeping inserted randomly into a single track.

So to warn those who have used any published serials, I would advise dumping
the program. I figure Feurio has blacklisted certain well-known serials, but
since a serial-generator generates random VALID serials I imagine those
numbers can't be blacklisted. That I imagine is another work-around other
than http://www.feurio.com/English/Register

It's certainly peculiar that a program which facilitates piracy in terms of
burning countless of copyrighted CDs is so anti-piracy when itself is
pirated. Count the piracy of your own program as Karma.

Piracy protection is one thing but inserting this aurally/electronically
damaging data won't win you
any customers. It might win you a lawsuit.

I'm surprise your droning voice didn't say "Sterben Sie Juden", it might
have been more convincing, you sneaky Hun.


Jens Fangmeier

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Jan 17, 2003, 11:54:12 AM1/17/03
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On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 07:04:59 GMT, "poon" <po...@poontan.org> wrote:

>> First: This is not true.
>> If a number is blacklisted, it would be rejected directly when
>> entering it.
>>
>> This only occurs when you are using code-numbers generated from
>> serial-generators.
>
>I presume you are the creator of Feurio, you sneaky Hun, or an imposter. The
>serial/license in question was not generated from a serial-generator and

OF cause it was - not from you, but from the poster.

>everything seems to indicate the program is properly registered, until an
>occasional CD comes out with the high-pitch beeping followed by your dead
>voice (I presume) saying "illegal copy" followed by the same high-pitch
>beeping; the beeping looks like a sawtooth pattern. From a deutsch site I
>have gathered that for every 15 CDs burned the blacklisted Feurio burns a CD
>with the aforementioned beeping inserted randomly into a single track.

Thats not correct.

>So to warn those who have used any published serials, I would advise dumping
>the program. I figure Feurio has blacklisted certain well-known serials, but
>since a serial-generator generates random VALID serials I imagine those
>numbers can't be blacklisted. That I imagine is another work-around other

Sorry, you havn't read my mail:
There are no "correct" serial-generators for feurio.
Feurio! can detect wheter it is a "real" serial or a serial from a
serial-generator.
The serial (or better: the code) contains many independet sub-codes -
some are checked directly at input, some later.
The serial-generators only produces codes that are pass the first
checks - not the later checks.

You can belive me: I have checked all serial-genertors availbe for
feurio - non have produced totaly correct codes -> the check routine
of feurio! detect the code and puts the illegal copy on the cd.

So: When using codes from serial-generator, you will get THIS problem.

>It's certainly peculiar that a program which facilitates piracy in terms of
>burning countless of copyrighted CDs is so anti-piracy when itself is

IT IS LEGAL TO COPY AUDIO-CD!

>pirated. Count the piracy of your own program as Karma.

If it would be like audio, i would be GLAD.

For AUDIO: a) Copying AUDIO-CDs is legal.
BUT: On EVERY CD-R you pay a little view to a organisation (in
germany: the gema).
This organistation spreads this few to all bands, songwriters etc.

I would be realy gald if it was the same sitation for software:
I would glady give feurio! away for free if i get a part from every
sold cdr.

bob

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Jan 18, 2003, 2:33:06 AM1/18/03
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Serial-generator from UCF (dated 12/2/02 or in Hun-land 2/12/02). Tested
with burning 30 CDs (if that for every 15 CDs one "illegal copy" comes out
is anywhere near the truth). Using a variable speed playback program to
check quickly for the beeping and your delightful voice, so far not one of
the 30 CDs has your voice on it - I rather miss it ;-)

So unless your honeydewed voice makes its appearance beyond 30 CDs, seems
this serial-generator has muddled the line between a real or fake serial.

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