V2.1c Non-Jew Can't Pour Wine for a Jew -- Only a Fellow Jew Can! (Classic Repost) New Links Added! S_0229
Sam Drucker
links to replace dead DEJA-COM links but be forewarned that not all internal
links may still function today because web pages come and go.
-- Tavish May 16, 2003
The following should prove to everyone how the majority of Jews (not all Jews
mind you) views the rest of humanity...
http://www.lf2.cuni.cz/listserv/ahoj-l/199905/msg00141.html
(Link active July 10, 2003. Archived locally as: msg00141)
Non-Jew Can't Pour Wine for a Jew -- Only a Fellow Jew Can!
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Subject: Non-Jew Can't Pour Wine for a Jew -- Only a Fellow Jew Can!
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 13:31:11 GMT
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Highlights to look for:
" We are not allowed to drink any wine or grape juice, or any drink
containing wine or grape juice, which has been touched by a non Jew
after the seal of the bottle has been opened.."
" Boiled wine is really for use when a non-Jew would be in the
position of pouring a cup for a Jew. At the seder, that shouldn't be
an issue, as your cup should be poured by a fellow Jew at the table."
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=&selm=6uvn0n%24341%241%40nnrp1.dejanews.com
From: David S. Maddison <madd...@power.connexus.net.au>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Kosher Wine Questions
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 10:54:15 GMT
Message-ID: <6uvn0n$341$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=01bdeceb%240d4901c0%24312...@jbc.san.rr.com&lr=&hl=en
In article <01bdeceb$0d4901c0$312d...@jbc.san.rr.com>,
"JC" <jco...@san.rr.com> wrote:
[..]
> > Would the boiled wine of yesterday be treated the same as the pasteurized
> > juice of today (which is what grape juices is)?
:
> Boiled is mevushel wine. Yes, it is the same but it also includes many
> wines. Most of the commonly available kosher wines are mevushel, like
> Manischevitz. I would suspect, for that reason, most seders use boiled
> wine. Boiled wine is really for use when a non-Jew would be in the
> position of pouring a cup for a Jew. At the seder, that shouldn't be an
> issue, as your cup should be poured by a fellow Jew at the table. But I
> haven't heard of a specific prohibition. Never heard of smoked wine. By
> sweet wine, the analogy might be to fortified wines, which would be
> prohibited.
[..]
As I understand it, the requirements for wine that is not rendered
treif by handling by non-Jews relate to the suitability of that wine
for use in idol worship (avodah zarah). If the wine is not suitable
for idol worship and it is kosher in the first place, then it is not
rendered treif by being handled by non-Jews. The reason for this is
simply that in ancient times, idol worship was extremely common among
non-Jews and therefore there is a good chance that the wine could
have been dedicated to idols before being given to Jews.
Wine which was either boiled (mevushal) or had herbs added to it
(mevushin) was not considered suitable for idol worship, therefore
such wine could be drunk by Jews, if originally kosher.
AFAIK, kosher mevushin wine is quite rare, most kosher wine is
mevushal.
As usual, CYLOR if you have any halachic questions.
David Maddison
~~~~~END~~~~~
Notice the discrimination and bigotry in this: " Boiled wine is really
for use when a non-Jew would be in the position of pouring a cup for
a Jew. At the seder, that shouldn't be an issue, as your cup should
be poured by a fellow Jew at the table."? Tavish
Boiled wine isn't even considered fit for a Jew to drink according to
an article the B'nai B'rith has published! Look for: "...cooked wine
is far less palatable and no one would want to use it. "
>From B'nai B'rith (Mother of ADL):
http://bnaibrith.org/ijm/articles/wine/index.html
(Not active at this time. See additional material just below which is
essentially the same. July 10, 2003)
http://web.archive.org/web/19990429192622re_/bnaibrith.org/ijm/articles/wine/index.html
(Link active December 20, 2003. Archived locally as: archiveORGbbWINE)
Vineyard Vanguard:
The new taste of a well-aged tradition
By Joseph Berkofsky
[ ... ] (Excerpt used for "educational" purposes]
Like all other kosher food or drink, kosher wine cannot contain any
unkosher animal or fish products; to be kosher for Passover, it must
also not come in contact with any leavened grains.
But the law regarding wine extracts another, more pressing, demand: It
cannot be handled by non-Jews.
The roots of this law reach back to the ancient Land of Israel where,
to prevent Jews from drinking wines used in idol worship, Jewish law
forbade Jews to touch wine that had been moved in an open vessel by
non-Jews, since it was likely used as a wave offering. The rabbis
later went further in battling assimilation, declaring any wine
handled by a non-Jew unfit to drink.
Today, in order to ensure that a wine meets all the kashrut
requirements, the entire winemaking process from grape-crushing to
bottling is overseen by trained, Sabbath-observant Jews, or
mashgichim, who handle all flow of the wine. And, as Ben Welton, a
mashgiach for St. Supery and others, can attest, this kind of kosher
supervision can mean as much toil as Torah.
With help from nearby non-Jewish winery workers, mashgichim operate
cranes to unload the grapes from trucks after the fall harvest. They
run the crushers which break the grapes, and pipe the crushed grapes
and juice into steel tanks. And they oversee the rest of the process
from fermentation, when yeast converts the grape's sugar into alcohol,
to filtering the wine and moving it into oak barrels to be aged.
At times, says Welton, this is dizzying work - literally. Not too long
ago, he recalls, he had to dig heavy heaps of stems from a huge
fermentation tank at St. Supery - while wearing a lifeline to show
that he was not inhaling too much alcohol vapor.
Peak season for mashgichim like Welton is between August and January,
when most of the winemaking occurs. And, although a mashgiach need not
be on premises other than when the wine is being moved through the
process, mashgichim will occassionally return to inspect the wine as
it ages to ensure that it has not been touched by non-Jews.
But those wineries that wish to involve non-Jews in the process can
tap into a Talmudic ruling that makes this possible.
Rabbinic authorities decreed that wine, even if touched by non-Jews,
was fit for Jewish use so long as it was mevushal, or cooked. The idea
was, in part, that cooked wine is far less palatable and no one would
want to use it. <END>
Newly added July 10, 2003:
Additional material which augments the above text:
http://www.bnti.us/studies/steps_to_pesach/11_wine.html
(Link active July 10, 2003. Archived locally as: bnti_11-wine)
Bnai Noach Torah Institute Course: Steps To Pesach 202
steps_t...@bnti.us Lesson 11
By Dr. Akiva G. Belk
First let’s discuss wine. In Yiddishkeit there is a term known as Yayin
Nesekh {wine handled by a heathen}. Originally Yayin Nesekh meant wine offered
to idols. Today among the observant Jews it means wine handled by non Jews. Our
sages forbid Jews to drink Yayin Nesekh... They accept wine whereby the grapes
are not picked or supervised by Jews. They accept wine which is not touched by
human hands... has no human contact from the time it is fed into vats until it
is sealed in bottles.
Strict observance requires that rabbinic supervision be present
throughout the entire process and that the wine be labeled by a recognized
kashrus organization...
Wine contacted by an idolator at any stage of its preparation is the
basis to prohibit its consumption by a Jew. Why? Anything used by an idolator in
ceremonies is prohibited for Jewish consumption. To make this easy for us who
desire to be careful, strict observance differentiates between kosher and non
kosher wine. Kosher wine has two categories. First is “not mevushal” which means
it has not been cooked or boiled. It is acceptable for a non Jew to handle the
bottle as long as the seal is intact. Once the seal is broken non Jews are
prohibited access. The second category is “mevushal.” The presumption is that
wine boiled after pressing is not associated with pagan use. The term that
includes this process is “mevushal.” This wine may be handled by non Jews even
after it has been opened.... <END>
More:
http://www.ottmall.com/mj_ht_arch/v21/mj_v21i19.html
(Link active July 10, 2003. Archived locally as: mj_v21i19)
Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 21 Number 19
Yayin Nesech and Non-Religious Jews (3)
http://www.ottmall.com/mj_ht_arch/v21/mj_v21i19.html#CEO
[Binyomin Segal, Robert Rubinoff, Avi Feldblum]
From: bse...@mcs.com (Binyomin Segal)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 21:03:43 -0500
Subject: Yayin Nesech and Non-Religious Jews
In response to Carl's question re wine touched by an irreligious Jew.
There is a Torah prohibition of deriving benefit from something used for
idol worship. This includes yayin nesach (wine that was used in an
idolatrous libation). The rabbis added a category called "Stam Yaynam"
literally "plain wine of theirs" that refers to wine that was touched by
a non jew...
Now, this extra stringency was not legislated on "cooked wine" (yayin
mevushal). Cooked wine - that is wine that has been heated after
fermentation to a temperature somewhere between 104 and 212F - was not
used in the Temple and it seems it was not used in idol worship
either. As such most restrictions re a non-jews touching it were not
imposed upon wine that had been cooked. (Just as an aside - non cooked
wine is seen as the preferred type of wine for kiddush et al, as it is
wine that could be used in Temple service.)
For various reasons the VAST majority of kosher wine sold today is
cooked in this way. It avoids all sorts of problems (like waiters at a wedding).
However it does (so they say) affect the delicate flavor of good wines. I
believe, Golan - in an attempt to be a really good wine - is one of very
few wineries that do not cook their wine.
As for the second issue - ie non-religious Jews treated as non-Jews here
- I believe the Chazon Ish is clear that they are treated as JEWS - and
so the wine would be permitted. But since the issue comes up infrequently I'm
not sure its clear what "normative" practice is. CYLOR. <END>
http://www.jewishsf.com/bk010907/supp59.shtml
(Link active July 10, 2003. Archived locally as: supp59)
From vine to vat to bottle: Here's how to keep it kosher
BILL STRUBBE Jewish Telegraphic Agency
OCCIDENTAL, Calif. (JTA) -- Grapes are the only fruit from which
sacramental wine can be derived, so Judaism treats the fruit of the vine with
special reverence.
Whenever wine is on the table, a prayer is offered. The codification of
kosher wine, which began in the days of Maimonides, girded it with strict
production requirements to guard its purity...
*For wine to retain its religious purity when handled by non-Jews, the
wine must be pasteurized; it is then known as yayin mevushal, or cooked wine.
The barely fermenting "must," a slurry of crushed grapes and liquid, is quickly
run over steel plates heated to about 185 degrees until bubbles appear,
satisfying the kashrut laws... <END>
http://www.jewishsf.com/bk970418/1abeyo.htm
(Link active July 10, 2003. Archived locally as: 1abeyo)
Beyond Passover: California kosher wines come of age
JOSEPH BERKOFSKY
[...]
While the French wines could gain a foothold in the domestic kosher wine
world, much of the battle for kosher wine standing revolves around kashrut
itself. The war is, literally, over heat.
Among the claims to fame by Hagafen, Mount Maroma and Herzog are that
their wines are mevushal, or cooked. In fact, they are flash pasteurized at 185
degrees for several seconds by a machine one St. Supery worker lovingly calls a
"mevushalator."
The process allows observant Jews to drink the wine no matter who is
pouring it. That is crucial not only to gain the coveted "circle U" or U.O. --
the Orthodox Union's widely accepted stamp of kashrut (and costly to winemakers,
boosting the wine's price). It also opens the door to kosher catering sales and
to a burgeoning modern Orthodox clientele that is thirsting for good wines, Weir
and others say.
Mevushal's roots reach to the Babylonian era of the sixth century BCE, a
time of intellectual and social freedom in Mesopotamia when Jews and non-Jews
freely mixed -- and shared sacramental wine... Non-boiled wine could still be
shared between Jews, but only yayinmevushal (boiled wine) could be accepted from
non-Jews...<END>
http://www.carmel-food.com/kosher.htm
(Link active July 10, 2003. Archived locally as: carmel-kosher)
WHAT IS KOSHER
The definition of 'Kashrut' is 'purity' and the Jewish dietary laws
ensure the hygiene and purity of the products are strictly kept to the laws and
regulations of the bible. In the case of wine, these regulations are especially
stringent. In Judaism, as in other religions, wine is used for sacramental
purposes and at almost every ceremony a blessing is made over wine... <END>
The above is the bottom line about why Non-Jews aren't allowed to handle kosher
wine as in handling the wine after it has been opened or the pouring of kosher
wine by a non-Jew for a Jew-- it's HYGIENE!!! NON-JEWS ARE APPARENTLY VIEWED AS
BEING NON CLEAN!!
See how Jews really view you- the non-Jew? Now are the Jews and their Gentile
Dupes or Gentiles who knowingly have "accepted their thirty pieces of silver"
going to call me an anti-Semite or even a Nazi just because I quote what Jews
teach and show how they really view non-Jews?
As for the statements shown above in the newly added material: "Wine contacted
by an idolator at any stage of its preparation is the basis to prohibit its
consumption by a Jew... To make this easy for us who desire to be careful,
strict observance differentiates between kosher and non kosher wine. Kosher wine
has two categories. First is “not mevushal” which means it has not been cooked
or boiled. It is acceptable for a non Jew to handle the bottle as long as the
seal is intact. Once the seal is broken non Jews are prohibited access. The
second category is “mevushal.” The presumption is that wine boiled after
pressing is not associated with pagan use." AND "In Yiddishkeit there is a term
known as Yayin Nesekh {wine handled by a heathen}. Originally Yayin Nesekh meant
wine offered to idols. Today among the observant Jews it means wine handled by
non Jews."
Notice the terms heathen, pagan, idolator are used in reference to non-Jews?
Jewish teachings declare Christianity is pagan and idolatrous!
I.E.
Using the search link: http://www.mnemotrix.com/chabad/ which is Chabad
Lubavitch in Cyberspace and key words COMMUNISM CHRISTIANITY we get:
(The following was the fourth return using the above search criteria on
June 22, 2003 and is archived locally as: part_04 and as a JPG image
named: part_04.jpg)
part.04
And yet, they failed! Of the hundreds of millions `devotees' to all these faiths
and causes, only a tiny fraction are truly faithful to them. The overwhelming
majority are self-deluding hypocrites: they take from... (5K)
Excerpt: " Skeptic: Tell me this: if what you say is true, if, underneath it
all, the selfish animal we call ``man'' possesses a soul that is essentially and
inherently good, why have all attempts to uncover it failed so dismally?
Christianity, Islam, Communism, Humanism---so many religions and ideologies all
appeal to just such a ``higher ego.'' And yet, here we are, in 1993, back at
square one with our good old, tried and true, egoistic ego... Believer:
Secondly, they did succeed---to the extent that they do concur with the essence
of man and of creation.
Communism, despite its flaws and corruptions, has had a profound effect on our
sense of social justice. Christianity, despite the horrendous atrocities it
perpetrated and justified, played a major role in introducing, to a largely
pagan world, the concepts (though much adulterated) of a one, omnipotent and
non- corporeal G-d and of a messianic end-goal to existence." <END>
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http://www.inner.org/gentiles/7noachide/7princip.htm
http://www.mnemotrix.com/texis/webinator/search3/+8wwBmHOve3l11e5zTwFq0DdDe2Dqxio5raGncotodDadhabn5BnGDtFqnpwGwrFqmMwLozmxwwwMFqomxqrwxwmDFqmwcc/context.html#hit1
(Context link active July 10, 2003. Archived locally as: 8wwBmHO)
The Seven Principles of Faith and Divine Service for a Non-Jew
Just as each of the 613 commandments of the Torah given to the Jewish
people at Sinai possesses an inner dimension, so does each of the seven
Noachide laws possess an inner dimension. These are the seven
principles...
Excerpt: " When a non-Jew does possess a sense of affinity towards Jews,
he merits inspiration from the source of the soul of Israel. He becomes
motivated to be a good person in all of his relations to his fellow man
and to devote his life to the service of G-d. The rectification of the
non-Jewish world in general depends upon the inspiration and insight which
it receives from the Jewish people. In accordance with the principle of
clarification, as defined in Kabbalah, one can always deduce or extract a
spark of good from within the context of evil. The major non-Jewish
religion of Western culture believes in an individual Jew and worships him
as god. This is certainly a great transgression (of the fourth Noachide
commandment defined above). Nonetheless, from this evil we can deduce a
principle of good. The true rectification of the non-Jewish world will
come when it will recognize the Divinely ordained purpose of the Jewish
people to enlighten the world and bring about universal peace and
prosperity..."
http://www.fastlane.net/~bneinoah/life.html
http://www.mnemotrix.com/texis/webinator/search3/+dwwBm3e3xt5ZyeODHwFq7GncotodDa51qraw5agrGo5BowDoBOanVnGcw5BoDttFqnpwGwrFqmMwLozmxwwwMFqomxqrwxwmDFqmwcc/context.html#hit1
(Context link active July 10, 2003. Archived locally as: dwwBm3e)
CB"N - The Covenant of Everlasting Life
The idea of everlasting life is rather appealing to most folks. A somewhat
primal yearning seemingly tugs at us to somehow reclaim that certain
something which Adam and Chava lost when they sunk their teeth into...
Excerpt: " And now a personal observation, if you please: If (indeed, IF:
hypothetical speculation with such an example is, at best, an exercise of
futility - the socio-historical situation speaks for itself in the
archives of Jewish history) the righteous Jews of the Second Temple period
had taught the Seven Laws of Noah to the non-Jews, there would never have
risen a religion such as Christianity. With the knowledge that (through
the observance of the Sheva Mitzvot B nei Noach) everlasting life could be
attained as promised by Hashem to Noach, the resulting fabrication that
everlasting life could come only through belief and worship of a human
being would never have happened. Instead, as we have noted, the teaching
concerning the Covenant of the Rainbow - The Covenant of Everlasting Life,
had been forced into hiding by the vicious persecution of the Jews, and
the new covenant of Christianity was but a pagan attempt to replace the
eternal Covenant made by Hashem to Noach."
Xref:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=b1lc0uk95d39eqibkenpruu31moafku35p%404ax.com&rnum=10
Subject: Capitalism, Communism, and Technology in Jewish Thought (In Their Own
Words Series) V DIGSIG _ R CF
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:32:52 -0600
Message-ID: <b1lc0uk95d39eqibk...@4ax.com>
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http://www.fastlane.net/~bneinoah/rosh.html
http://www.mnemotrix.com/texis/webinator/search3/+iwwBmevlqge7GBhZqqFqLgrGo5BowDoBOaomdcwBGd15tFqnpwGwrFqmMwLozmxwwwMFqomxqrwxwmDFqmwcc/context.html#hit1
(Context link active July 10, 2003. Archived locally as: iwwBmev)
Rosh Chavurah means "head of the fellowship" and is more commonly known as
"Fellowship Director." The Rosh Chavurah of CB"N of Fort Worth, Texas helps
guide local B'nei Noach along the Path of the Righteous...
Excerpt: "Terry started studying Judaism and Torah in January 1981. By 1986, he
had completely renounced Christianity and its idolatrous belief system."
http://www.fastlane.net/~bneinoah/june98view.html
http://www.mnemotrix.com/texis/webinator/search3/+7wwBme3h40Y3O3nqFqLgrGo5BowDoBOaomdcwBGd15tFqnpwGwrFqmMwLozmxwwwMFqomxqrwxwmDFqmwcc/context.html#hit1
(Context link active July 10, 2003. Archived locally as: 7wwBme3)
CB"N - ViewPoint: June 1998
The following ViewPoint was intended to provoke thought and discussion.
10x1w.GIF Israel's Relationship with the Nations 10x1w.GIF Behold! it is a
nation that will dwell in solitude and not be reckoned among the...
Excerpt: "If the prophet Balaam sought to curse Israel and could not do it by
the Word of G-d and boldly made the prophetic pronouncement given to him by G-d
that Israel is a separate entity who cannot be reckoned or counted with the
other nations, then by what right or by what authority can the nations and
peoples who embrace Christianity or any other religion make the claim that
Israel is included in the status quo? The audacity of theologians to completely
ignore the Word of G-d in regards to His claim of a very special relationship
with Israel borders on madness. Those who make the grave error of placing Israel
into the same category and status as that of the pagan and idolatrous nations of
the world show no traces of awe or fear of the Living G-d." <END>
Also see:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=1ioifv01joma9fjqpa361host2smg0un2n%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Today's Judaism is the Same Stuff Jesus Condemned ~2000 Years Ago
(Which Has Had Some Additions Made Since Then) V3.0 R_0625
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 03:51:27 -0500
Message-ID: <1ioifv01joma9fjqp...@4ax.com>
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http://www.kashrus.org/kosher/supervis.html
[ ... ]
... Wine, more than any other food or drink, represents the holiness
and separateness of the Jewish people.
It is used for the sanctification of Shabbat and Yom Tovand at Jewish
simchot. In the Beit Hamikdash wine was poured upon the Altar together
with the sacrifice. However, since wine was and still is used in many
forms of idolatrous worship, it has a unique status in Jewish Law,
which places extra restrictions on the making and handling of wine.
This includes wine used for non ceremonial purposes.
The production and handling of kosher wine must be done exclusively by
Jews. Wine, grape juice, and all products containing wine or grape
juice must remain solely in Jewish hands during the manufacturing
process and also after the seal of the bottle has been opened.
We are not allowed to drink any wine or grape juice, or any drink
containing wine or grape juice, which has been touched by a non Jew
after the seal of the bottle has been opened.
[ ... ]
"Wine, grape juice, and all products containing wine or grape juice must remain
solely in Jewish hands during the manufacturing process and also after the seal
of the bottle has been opened. We are not allowed to drink any wine or grape
juice, or any drink containing wine or grape juice, which has been touched by a
non-Jew after the seal of the bottle has been opened."
http://www.okkosher.com/Content.asp?ID=116
(Link active July 3, 2003. Archived locally as: okkosher116)
(Same text mirrored at http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/judaism.htm
Titled: About Kashrus and Supervision (Wine), Kosher Living
and was archived locally as: jewtribe_wine)
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Also see more bigoted (against Non-Jews) teachings of Jews (in their own vile
words!!):
[In some of these archives you all will see some of my opposition failing at
defending the bigotry of Jews! Be on the watch!! Very entertaining!!]
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=34da0721.334493340%40news.phoenix.net&rnum=2
Subject: Even More on Wine - 'Separation' of Non-Jew From Jews in Making of
Wine! (Their Own Words!) ..
Date: 1998/02/05
Message-ID: <34da0721....@news.phoenix.net>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=34cd15bb.167969898%40news.tavish.net&rnum=1
Subject: In Their Own Words Jews Imply That Gentiles are Unclean or Defiled.
Read And Decide For Yourselves.
Date: 1998/01/26
Message-ID: <34cd15bb....@news.tavish.net>
These posts should really evoke some serious thought and expose double standards
of what is bigotry and what isn't! Notice some of the subject titles and
remember these are vintage archives so not all internal links may be active
today. The material is still relevant and similar web pages can be found using
an Advanced GOOGLE Web Search and using appropriate KEY words and this link:
http://www.google.com/advanced_search
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=34e261e8.103523274%40news.phoenix.net&rnum=2
Subject: Try Interchanging Jew and Non-Jew with White and Non-White - What Do
You Get? Bigotry!
Date: 1998/02/12
Message-ID: <34e261e8....@news.phoenix.net>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=39a74295.103888183%40news.newsguy.com&rnum=11
Subject: Weekly Halacha - Another Example of "Jewish Supremacist Separatism" (In
Their Own Words Series)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 04:18:01 GMT
Message-ID: <39a74295....@news.newsguy.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=2b6aftkkd8sob5ugaskk1o5imkjriope75%404ax.com&rnum=13
Subject: Bigotry by Jews Toward Non-Jews (Wine Bigotry) New Findings [In Their
Own Words Series] R CF
Message-ID: <2b6aftkkd8sob5uga...@4ax.com>
Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 09:34:44 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=34e36c94.171802069%40news.smart1.net&rnum=22
Subject: #3 Kosher Wine -Trying as a nitwit to defend the indefensible is what
Ali is doing!
Date: 1998/02/12
Message-ID: <34e36c94....@news.smart1.net>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=34e0d74e.2490464%40news.phoenix.net&rnum=27
Subject: Jewish Racism & Bigotry is Rampant Among Their Websites. Only a Fool
Will Deny This in Light of all of the Evidence (was Re: Poor ol' gutless Scottie
flaunts his confusion)
Date: 1998/02/10
Message-ID: <34e0d74e...@news.phoenix.net>
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Subject: Kosher Wine - Still Even More Incomprehension From Jews Who Deny Their
Bigotry Toward The Rest of Mankind! Isn't The Obvious Hypocrisy Amazing?
Date: 1998/02/10
Message-ID: <34dfa056....@news.phoenix.net>
(Brief excerpt)
THOUGHTS ON THE DAILY DAF
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Nidah 34
1.JEWISH PHYSIOLOGY The Gemara suggests that perhaps the Shichvas Zera
of a non-Jew might have different properties from that of a Jew, since
the non-Jews eat non-kosher foods and are physically affected by their
diet. This has important ramifications.
The CHASAM SOFER (Teshuvos YD 175) concludes that we cannot assume
that a medical treatment that was tested successfully on a non-Jew
will also be successful on a Jew. Therefore, if a Jewish woman always
saw blood as a result of Tashmish, we cannot determine that a
particular cure is reliable is reliable just because it was
experimented successfully on non-Jews.
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How many of you (Non-Jews) are still holding out that Jews still view
non-Jews as human beings. The material above almost looks like animal
experimentation to me!
How many of you totally clueless Jews still have yet to figure why the
majority of mankind has so thoroughly disliked you for thousands of
years?
Doc Tavish
BTW I have one more and this one is even funnier than the one above!
I give my word and have provided the link so you may verify that I
have not altered this post in any way except for my bracketed
comment. Here goes:
http://www.shamash.org/listarchives/mail-jewish/volume1/e-a/m.j902
"..... sterilize male animals. In any case there is no prohibition in
buying a vasectomized mouse owned by a non-Jew.
The problem of vasectomizing unclean animals comes up more
commonly when one wants to spay their cat or dog. A Jewish
veterinarian cannot sterilize a male animal and one cannot ask a
non-Jew to sterilize their dog or cat. One can buy a previously
sterilized male animal. In fact a question they asked Ben Zoma is if
one can damage the male generative organs of a dog and he replied that
even that is forbidden (Chaggigah 14b).
Another case of damaging the reproductive organs of male animals
is the sterilization of insects like fruit flies by radiation. These
sterile males are released into the infested area and mate with
females, competing with the normal male fruit flies. A case like this
is discussed in the halachic literature. It is prohibited to hold
someone in the snow until he becomes sterile, although one is not
whipped as a punishment for doing so.
[I love the way this guy compares human beings to fruit flies! It's a
riot and he is a "university scholar" too! Doc Tavish]
In this case the generative organs are not directly injured, but it
is nevertheless prohibited. In addition the taking of a sterilizing
drug is prohibited even though the sterilization is not done directly
by cutting or damaging any organs or even if the sterilization is not
the desired effect but a cure of a disease is.
The halachic discussions of this prohibition are found in the
Shulchan Aruch Even HaEzer 5:11-14 and in mitzvah 291 of Sefer Ha
Chinuch.
Daniel Schindler <LIDANIEL%WEIZMAN...@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
<END>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=34e36f9f.172581109%40news.flash.net&rnum=35
Subject: Five Plain & Simple Questions - When Will They be Answered? (was Re:
Scott wonders what a real life would be like....)
Date: 1998/02/12
Message-ID: <34e36f9f....@news.flash.net>
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Newer archives:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3crfru9ce2rb0snnls%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Children of the Devil and Anti-Christ[s] Positively Identified Using
Scripture-- Check The Proofs For Yourselves! V2.0
Message-ID: <vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3...@4ax.com>
Date: 13 May 2003 05:29:00 GMT
Jewish Led Bolsheviks Scalped & Crucified Christians by Philippa Fletcher
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=34c17d0f.1410012285%40news.smart1.net&rnum=7
Subject: Bolsheviks Scalped and Crucified Christians -
Date: 1998/01/18
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http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=cqrhav0th39prr3bf5am4dnkcn89j52p8b%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Post-Soviet Religion (What Communists did to Christians) R_0425
Date: 25 Apr 2003 08:14:41 GMT
Message-ID: <cqrhav0th39prr3bf...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=thu1cv85n9rt762obr3mtjga4thcsfdidq%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Hatred of Jews at highest level since WWII and Some Apparent Reasons
Why!
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http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=&selm=prbo5vkp1825141dem99scia1676el7nqd%404ax.com
Subject: Anti-American Communist Agitator and Tax Exempt Religious Org (B'nai
Brith) Which Gave Him Financial and Moral Support
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:07:42 -0600
Message-ID: <prbo5vkp1825141de...@4ax.com>
Proof B'nai Brith claims to be the "World's Largest Jewish Organization" (and
remember-- they support communists who are definitely anti-Christian,
anti-Capitalist, and anti-American-- as proven in the above archive!
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=&num=10&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=World%27s+Largest+Jewish+Organization&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&safe=images
Searched the web for "World's Largest Jewish Organization". Results 1 - 10 of
about 58
Examples of returns:
http://www.jewishomaha.org/monsky.htm
333 S. 132nd St., 334-6443
Gary Javitch, President
Lois Epstein, Administrative staff
Founded in 1843, B'nai B'rith is the world's largest Jewish organization with a
membership of one-half million men and women in 57 countries. The organization
defends human rights and fights discrimination throughout the world. It sponsors
interfaith dialogues, promotes democracy and world peace. B'nai B'rith is
committed to Jewish unity.
http://www.jewishhartford.org/agency_detail.epl?agency_id=58
(Archived locally as: agency_detail)
Jewish Community Resources
... B'nai B'rith - the world's largest Jewish organization....
---
>I ask-- why do we never see Jews criticize the communism
>which existed before Stalin took control?
"Because there was very little to criticize."
Susan Cohen - January 24, 2001
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=4&selm=3A6F230F.3AFF4272%40his.com
Message-ID: <3A6F230F...@his.com>
ASCII ART: To view the graphic you should set your news browser to view 80
columns and this is a must- set your fonts to a fixed width font such as courier
to see the image in full fidelity. If you use a proportional font or Windows
True Type proportional font the image will be grossly distorted.
You need to use a font which is 8 point. Any larger of a font may cause the
image to severely distort.
I "rendered" the image in 8 point size. You may use Windows True Type fonts if
they are fixed width such as Courier New (Western) but be warned most Windows
True Type fonts are proportional width. YOU MAY ALSO SELECT ALL TEXT AND CLICK
TO MAKE IT "BOLD" AS THIS SOMETIMES HELPS THE DEFINITION OF HARDCOPY.
Image "rendered" by Doc Tavish and given to public domain. More to come!
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Stephen Bayzik
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> These posts (for the most part) date from 1999. I supplied new working
GOOGLE
> links to replace dead DEJA-COM links but be forewarned that not all
internal
> links may still function today because web pages come and go.
> -- Tavish May 16, 2003
> The following should prove to everyone how the majority of Jews (not all
Jews
> mind you) views the rest of humanity...
> http://www.lf2.cuni.cz/listserv/ahoj-l/199905/msg00141.html
> (Link active July 10, 2003. Archived locally as: msg00141)
> Non-Jew Can't Pour Wine for a Jew -- Only a Fellow Jew Can!
Excuse me if I am wrong, but this seems like a overt form of anti Semitism.
===================================================
--
Stephen Bayzik
Ken Lewis
What? Scott Bradbury an anti-semitic, brain-dead, two-bit peice of
racists gutter trash? I can't belive it!
Patrick Lee Humphrey
That's about all R. Scott Bradbury (the documented Jew hater who posts under
several hundred aliases, including "Sam Drucker") of Bellville, Texas is
capable of.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
Patrick Lee Humphrey
Sam Drucker
How is showing what Jews teach about non-Jews anti-Semitism when i show what
they teach in their own words? I give all URLs for verification too! To ignore
their bigotry and to imply I am an anti-Semite is indicative of people who have
been blinded by the Clergy of Christendom who have accepted their thirty pieces
of silver from the Pharisees.
Everyone consider these points as I step through them:
[Regarding 1st Century Christianity compared to the 21st Century version of
Christianity espoused by Christendom Versus 1st Century Judaism compared to 21st
Century Judaism. Judaism and Jews have not changed significantly in 2000 years
BUT 1st Century Christianity is still lost in the 21st Century.]
1) Pharisees were Jews and the very first of the 1st Century Christians were
Jews as well and the first recorded Gentile convert recorded was a man named
Cornelius. Acts Chapter 10 gives the account of Cornelius.
2) The Pharisees' religion was Judaism and naturally the 1st Century Christian's
religion was Christianity.
Acts 11:26
And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass,
that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much
people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
Acts 26:28
Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.
1 Peter 4:16
Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him
glorify God on this behalf.
The religion of the Pharisees:
Galatians 1:1,13,14 (English-RSV)
1 Paul an apostle--not from men nor through man, but through Jesus
Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead--
13 For you have heard of my former life in Judaism, how I persecuted
the church of God violently and tried to destroy it;
14 and I advanced in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my
people, so extremely zealous was I for the traditions of my fathers.
<Notice the Apostle Paul stated: "former life in Judaism"?>
Acts 26:1,4,5 (English-RSV)
1 Agrippa said to Paul, "You have permission to speak for yourself."
Then Paul stretched out his hand and made his defense:
4 "My manner of life from my youth, spent from the beginning among my
own nation and at Jerusalem, is known by all the Jews.
5 They have known for a long time, if they are willing to testify,
that according to the strictest party of our religion I have lived as
a Pharisee.
<Notice the Apostle Paul stated: "I have lived as a Pharisee" and he did NOT
state: "I live as a Pharisee" thus proving Paul separated himself from
unbelievers and was NOT a purveyor of any sort of a "Judeo/Christian Alliance"
being taught by false teachers of today.>
Xref:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=1ioifv01joma9fjqpa361host2smg0un2n%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Today's Judaism is the Same Stuff Jesus Condemned ~2000 Years Ago
(Which Has Had Some Additions Made Since Then) V3.0 R_0625
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 03:51:27 -0500
Message-ID: <1ioifv01joma9fjqp...@4ax.com>
4) For a fact those Jews who practiced Judaism in the 1st Century persecuted the
Jews who practiced Christianity.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=i31ucv4nvr6ehh6r2jgq8d7orrpfhm3j09%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: The Apostle Paul on Judaized Jews R_0524
Message-ID: <i31ucv4nvr6ehh6r2...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:25 GMT
5) Jews who followed Judaism were called Children of the Devil by Jesus (who was
a Jew in the flesh) Jesus did not include all Jews as being Children of the
Devil as verse 31 proves.
John 8:1-6,31,37-49
1 But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.
2 At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered
around him, and he sat down to teach them.
3 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in
adultery. They made her stand before the group
4 and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery.
5 In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?"
6 They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing
him.
<<The above scripture shows who Jesus was addressing and it shows they were
trying to trap him in his speech-- a trait the Pharisee devils have honed
over the past 2000 years I might add!>>
31 To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, "If you hold to my teaching,
you are really my disciples.
<<Only those Jews who believed in Jesus were looked upon favorably and those who
didn't are addressed in the following scripture. Verse 31 also proves that NOT
all Jews are the Children of the Devil as some people want to teach.>>
37 I know you are Abraham's descendants. Yet you are ready to kill me, because
you have no room for my word.
38 I am telling you what I have seen in the Father's presence, and you do what
you have heard from your father."
39 "Abraham is our father," they answered.
40 "If you were Abraham's children," said Jesus, "then you would do the things
Abraham did. As it is, you are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the
truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things.
41 You are doing the things your own father does."
"We are not illegitimate children," they protested. "The only Father we have is
God himself."
The Children of the Devil
42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came
from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me.
43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I
say.
44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's
desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for
there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is
a liar and the father of lies.
45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!
46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't
you believe me?
47 He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that
you do not belong to God."
48 The Jews answered him, "Aren't we right in saying that you are a Samaritan
and demon-possessed?"
49 "I am not possessed by a demon," said Jesus, "but I honor my Father and you
dishonor me..
<<The above is irrefutable about who Jesus referred to as the Children of the
Devil.>>
6) The Jewish Apostle John wrote that the Jews who rejected Jesus as the Messiah
who came in the flesh were antichrists.
ANTI-CHRISTS IDENTIFIED:
1 John 2: 18 "Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have heard
that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists."
1 John 2: 22,23 "Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is
the Christ [or Messiah]? These things I write you about those who are trying to
mislead you!"
1 John 4: 2,3 "You gain knowledge of the inspired expression from God by this:
Every inspired expression that confesses Jesus Christ as having come in the
flesh originates with God, but every inspired expression that does not confess
Jesus does not originate with God, Furthermore this is the antichrist's inspired
expression which you have heard was coming, and now it is already in the world."
2 John 7,10,11 "For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not
confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the
antichrist. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never
receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For he that says a
greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works."
7) Notice the last verse above about sharing in the wicked works of those who
reject Jesus as the Christ as coming in the flesh? It states: "For he that says
a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works." YET that is what all of the
Clergy of Christendom do to this day! They have deviated from true Christianity
to the point they are very cordial with the anti-Christ Rabbis all over the
world in every nation where Christendom and Judaism exist together!
8) Jews who adhere to Judaism (and Judaism itself) have not changed for 2000
years and Jews are just as much against Jesus today as they were 2000 years ago
YET the Clergy of Christendom and their beguiled flocks are not persecuted by
the Judaized Jews of today as were the 1st Century Christians of 2000 years ago
were by the 1st Century Pharisees. If today's Christendom were actually walking
in the foot steps of the 1st Century Christians they would be as hated by the
21st Century Pharisees as the 1st Century Christians were hated by 1st Century
Pharisees! Does anyone care to deny the self evident truth?
9) If Christendom did follow in the foot steps of 1st Century Christians I doubt
if we would be putting up with and tolerating the wickedness of the Children of
the Devil today and Israel and Jerusalem would have a Christian leadership
instead of an anti-Christ one!
10) Christendom's Clergy dishonors Jesus and God and they are not following in
the 1st Century Christians' foot steps even remotely today and the fact they now
espouse a "Judeo-Christian Alliance" should be more than enough proof they have
left the narrow road for the broad and spacious road and have accepted their 30
pieces of silver from the Pharisees to betray the flocks they are supposed to be
shepherding.
How First Century Christianity Was Treated by Jews:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=m1p5nv4es86j78p5dr5pe41l8pi3vfcst0%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: UPDATED The Most Heinous Murder Plot Ever Devised (For Your Archives &
Research) V2.5 R_0925
Message-ID: <m1p5nv4es86j78p5d...@4ax.com>
Date: 25 Sep 2003 13:23:49 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=k11ucvc1j4hl6s7av6qpr9882esa96oaav%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Babylon the Great - Religious Persecution, Torture, Harassment R_0524
Message-ID: <k11ucvc1j4hl6s7av...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:17 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=i31ucv4nvr6ehh6r2jgq8d7orrpfhm3j09%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: The Apostle Paul on Judaized Jews R_0524
Message-ID: <i31ucv4nvr6ehh6r2...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:25 GMT
The first "Holocaust" was not Gentiles (Nazis) Against Jews
BUT was Jews (Communists) Against Christian Kulaks!!!
How Later Christianity was/is treated by Jews:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=upe9kvor1pdvm2ifa8sfa0qfboa6ull055%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Comparing Israel's "Anti-Christ Activism" to Other Middle East Nations
is NOT a Valid Comparison V2.5 R_0821
Message-ID: <upe9kvor1pdvm2ifa...@4ax.com>
Date: 21 Aug 2003 12:22:34 GMT
Jewish Led Bolsheviks Scalped & Crucified Christians by Philippa Fletcher
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=34c17d0f.1410012285%40news.smart1.net&rnum=7
Subject: Bolsheviks Scalped and Crucified Christians -
Date: 1998/01/18
Message-ID: <34c17d0f....@news.smart1.net>
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=1i7810p7itigphaaq...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: Post-Soviet Religion (What Communists did to Christians) V2.0a S_0125
Message-ID: <1i7810p7itigphaaq...@4ax.com>
Date: 25 Jan 2004 19:53:30 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=u626vv814v0dt9raqv17ede0h4536l51ag%404ax.com&rnum=10&filter=0
Subject: V3.0e Forefathers of the Soviet State and Anti-Christ Communism R_1231
Message-ID: <u626vv814v0dt9raq...@4ax.com>
Date: 31 Dec 2003 17:34:02 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=ncu5gvoc1nga0k933sgt0sbtglrv1nlb4e%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Communist Holocaust Has Killed Over 100 Million People
Message-ID: <ncu5gvoc1nga0k933...@4ax.com>
Date: 2 Jul 2003 15:33:38 GMT
Holocausts Jews have waged against non-Jews and Jewish denial of their
Holocausts against Christians/non-Jews:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=5rhktv483m9oofgqt8goir93o4pm08ht49%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: UPDATED: 3 Major Jewish Organizations Engage in Holocaust Denial in
Addition to Their anti-Christic Christ Denial anti-Christism
Message-ID: <5rhktv483m9oofgqt...@4ax.com>
Date: 12 Dec 2003 22:57:48 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=f2fe10t1v5jkcaq9g...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: Jesus Christ & Deceased Christians- Their Condition According to TALMUD
(Boiling Semen & Excrement) S_0127
Message-ID: <f2fe10t1v5jkcaq9g...@4ax.com>
Date: 28 Jan 2004 05:36:04 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=1ioifv01joma9fjqpa361host2smg0un2n%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Today's Judaism is the Same Stuff Jesus Condemned ~2000 Years Ago
(Which Has Had Some Additions Made Since Then) V3.0 R_0625
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 03:51:27 -0500
Message-ID: <1ioifv01joma9fjqp...@4ax.com>
Israel as it was established in 1948 by men in opposition to God's will up to
today:
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=1g60hvoj0b21pn339...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: Palestine was Changed to a Socialist Jewish State in 1948 by Ben-Gurion
with Communist Soviet Union's Support
Message-ID: <1g60hvoj0b21pn339...@4ax.com>
Date: 12 Jul 2003 14:16:47 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=t215105htnj0s2ufcrqloe02v0ps0qqe5i%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Israel Kills Palestinian Boys, Steals Organs For Transplants V2.1
Message-ID: <t215105htnj0s2ufc...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 Jan 2004 14:47:48 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=8a6vtv8ssbep61qab...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: Apartheid Laws in Israel (Different Author Series) V2.0 R_1216
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:04:05 -0600
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http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=bgi100p2ovug8de974op2simgbnru2uddu%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: ISRAELI SCHOOL REGRETS BURNING NEW TESTAMENT (Added Material) S_0110
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:59:25 -0600
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http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=upe9kvor1pdvm2ifa8sfa0qfboa6ull055%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Comparing Israel's "Anti-Christ Activism" to Other Middle East Nations
is NOT a Valid Comparison V2.5 R_0821
Message-ID: <upe9kvor1pdvm2ifa...@4ax.com>
Date: 21 Aug 2003 12:22:34 GMT
Tavish
Sam Drucker
Name call and personal attacks seem to be all your crowd has these days but then
again that is al they had 2000 years ago too!
>--
http://www.einsatzgruppenarchive.com/<303-617-9412>
Tavish
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=1ioifv01joma9fjqpa361host2smg0un2n%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Today's Judaism is the Same Stuff Jesus Condemned ~2000 Years Ago
(Which Has Had Some Additions Made Since Then) V3.0 R_0625
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 03:51:27 -0500
Message-ID: <1ioifv01joma9fjqp...@4ax.com>
Sam Drucker
Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>"Stephen Bayzik" <stephen...@sympatico.ca> writes:
>
>>"Sam Drucker" <sam_drucker@hooterville_001.net> wrote in message
>>news:do83405idhllulqv9...@4ax.com...
>
>>> These posts (for the most part) date from 1999. I supplied new working
>>> GOOGLE links to replace dead DEJA-COM links but be forewarned that not all
>>> internal links may still function today because web pages come and go.
>>> -- Tavish May 16, 2003
>
>>> The following should prove to everyone how the majority of Jews (not all
>>> Jews mind you) views the rest of humanity...
>
>>> http://www.lf2.cuni.cz/listserv/ahoj-l/199905/msg00141.html
>>> (Link active July 10, 2003. Archived locally as: msg00141)
>>> Non-Jew Can't Pour Wine for a Jew -- Only a Fellow Jew Can!
>
>>Excuse me if I am wrong, but this seems like a overt form of anti Semitism.
>
>That's about all R. Scott Bradbury (the documented Jew hater who posts under
>several hundred aliases, including "Sam Drucker") of Xxxxxxx, Xxxx is
>capable of.
I warned you about posting where I live!!
Seeing how people like to post where I live then I will post where
the people live who made such info public in the first place!
Sara Salzman
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif
4015 S Killarney Way
Aurora, Colorado 80013
303-617-9412
http://kevdb.infospace.com/home/white-pages/kevdb?showrec=15211651:res-us&OTMPL=/white-pages/details.htm&QN=Salzman&QF=S&QC=Aurora&QS=co
(Link active February 4, 2004. Archived locally as: infospace_Ssalzman2)
<Public Information>
Sara Salzman's favorite excuse for my address and telephone number being posted:
"It's not confidential, it's PUBLIC INFORMATION." YET She doesn't like her info
posted!
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I am being harassed by having my confidential information being posted along
with death threats, forged child porn ads being posted which give out my address
etc., having phoney sex offender lists posted which give out my address, having
magazine and catalog subscriptions forged in my identity etc. FOR A FACT it was
Yale F. Edeiken and Yale F. Edeiken alone who subpoenaed my confidential info
from my ISP and made the subpoenaed info public-- now let him receive justice
under the Law of Moses:
Just as has been done to me and is still being done to me and solely because
of Yale F. Edeiken exclusively I will apply the LAW he claims to observe to him:
Leviticus 24:19-20 :: New International Version (NIV)
19 If anyone injures his neighbor, whatever he has done must be done to him:
20 fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. As he has injured the
other, so he is to be injured.
http://maps.infospace.com/home/kevmap?OP=GeoCode&OTMPL=kevmap2/mapresults.htm&qa=918+N+Bayard+St&qc=Allentown&qs=pa&ver=14132
(Archived locally as: 918N_Bayard)
Yale F. Edeiken
918 N Bayard St
Allentown PA 18104
Tel 610 435-9820
<Source: Court documents>
If Yale does not like getting back in kind what he has dished out then he
should encourage his THUG allies to stop harassing me and invading my privacy!
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http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=catamont-1605042226560001%40ts005d08.den-co.concentric.net&rnum=1
(Archived locally as: SaraPublicInfo)
From: cata...@concentric.net (Sara Salzman)
Subject: Re: Yale Now Admits To Distributing Subpoenaed Information to a Group
of People... Date: 2000/05/17
Message-ID: <catamont-160...@ts005d08.den-co.concentric.net>
>On Wed, 17 May 2000 03:28:14 GMT, "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
><iloU4.3589$v%5.26...@newshog.newsread.com> wrote:
>
>>Doc Tavish <doc_t...@NOSPAMmy-deja.com> wrote in message
>>news:3921f38a....@news.flash.net...
:.
>>> You are forever archived here with your lies about your subpoena issued to
>>> get my unlisted telephone number and unlisted address and your lies about
>>> YOUR mailing list. All admissable in court--- your recent words too!
:.
>> None of which mean what you state they mean. Mailing something to a
>>group of people is NOT"a private mailing list."
:.
>So now I do have you on record admitting to: "Mailing something to a
>group of people..."
>
>Thanks for the final admission asswipe!
>
>The "something" you mailed to a group of people was confidential
>information obtained using a subpoena. What you have confessed to is
>illegal activity!
Wrong again, anti-Lawyer.It's not confidential, it's PUBLIC INFORMATION.
Check. Certified. or Jumpsuit.
The choice is yours.
Sara
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
>--
> Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
> www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
Sara Salzman
Hash: SHA1
In article <vcp440tdnnfq4hj61...@4ax.com>,
Sam Drucker <sam_drucker@hooterville_001.net> wrote:
Scott Bradbury on Christians and Jews:
NOW DROP DEAD YOU LYING YID!
Message-ID: <o0kq109ecnjlb5ibq...@4ax.com>
I have news you kike vermin- I am NOT a defendant!!
Message-ID: <1o94tvgnsprea3kk5...@4ax.com>
I will call you shits kikes as long as you act like obnoxious
self-righteous Pharisees!
Message-ID: <mktctvs84a80d8j69...@4ax.com>
Can't refute it can you kike?
Message-ID: <rk1310tm2ib3q1ad5...@4ax.com>
TELL KIKE EDEIKEN TO RE-FILE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO HIM!! There have
been new elections in Pennsylvania and I am filing all new complaints
with people who are listening. You won't be so cocky when Yale gets
disbarred and all on account of little ol' me!
Message-ID: <k39l00dua228p7t66...@4ax.com>
Didn't you know that foreskins were chewing gum for Jews in those
days!?
Message-ID: i326vvsfv72akebtd...@4ax.com
PUT UP OR SHUT UP YOU DUMB KIKE!!
Message-ID: <25n400d1u003peq5o...@4ax.com>
Now go drop dead kike!
Message-ID: <912ptvgh8nlkjn37u...@4ax.com>
TELL THE FILTHY DIRTY SNEAKY KIKE TO REFILE!
Message-ID: <3jqotvspvocgurvu8...@4ax.com>
TEL THE KIKE "WE" ARE WAITING FOR HIM!!
Message-ID: <ca09001i0kc2qo0f5...@4ax.com>
Why don't you accept my challenge you filthy hook nosed kike bastard?
Message-ID: sjep00hb9c6rnals9...@4ax.com
WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE ME YOU ANTI-CHRIST?
Message-ID: <feqq10d7jj1tsp1i6...@4ax.com>
PUT UP OR SHUT UP YOU STUPID KIKE SHIT!!
Message-ID: <aa8huv0vuj7t8450m...@4ax.com>
Why don't you put your money where your big fat mouth is you Jew scum
bastard?
Message-ID: grreuvc487rg2rg6f...@4ax.com
Why don't you accept my challenge you stupid kike bastard?
Message-ID: <h0seuvgle8sksgroh...@4ax.com>
TAKE THE CHALLENGE YOU FILTHY KIKE BIG MOUTH!
Message-ID: <94ra00lun54poaq5v...@4ax.com>
Why don't you ever accept my challenge you stupid big mouth kike son
of a bitch?
Message-ID: <d2vj00htvubc4b3eg...@4ax.com>
Now go drop dead you whore of the Jews!
Message-ID: <vegarvsmooa86m0be...@4ax.com>
Put up or shut up you loud mouth obnoxious Jew!
Message-ID: <1h0frvoch94hf3qtt...@4ax.com>
Read the "$10,000.00 Challenge" and either put up or shut up you
stupid big mouthed lying kike!
Message-ID: <a63qrvg6veuog7qep...@4ax.com>
You're the hypocrite you Jewish swine bastard.
Message-ID: <a63qrvg6veuog7qep...@4ax.com>
Why don't you accept my challenge you hook nosed crema knlinker?
Message-ID: <aqhm00152cnmr486f...@4ax.com>
He's not a 'groid- he's a hook nosed kike!
Message-ID: <34mo00t8g6hk6qem7...@4ax.com>
Drop dead you Child of the Devil!
Message-ID: <ckg410hebdckt7i6l...@4ax.com>
It's about time I reposted that Hook Nose picture!
Message-ID: <6stknvgvcsc8vdf45...@4ax.com>
Now got drop dead you dumb kike.
Message-ID: <u9g5rvsvbc859rtio...@4ax.com>
Eat shit, choke on it, and die you SoB (Son of Belial)!
Message-ID: <ih97109qisa3qecgg...@4ax.com>
For you to continually tell lies only proves Kikes are lying swine
shits!
Message-ID: <pd9sgvckbep6agrdh...@4ax.com>
Show where I exhibited Jew Hatred!
Message-ID: <nsqqgvkquvdkrjq2d...@4ax.com>
How nay more times are you going to spoam the same lies and
defamagtion you fucking evil kike bastard?
Message-ID: <b2qofvs8m9bu08p9r...@4ax.com>
Need I say more other than Kikes are the word's foremost hypocrites
and liars!
Message-ID: <l8hggv4d2d6f66a2t...@4ax.com>
You filth are desperate aren't you in your agenda to smear and malign
people. What else can one expect from a disciple of the Children of
the Devil?
Message-ID: <7e7hgv87ackmo57ve...@4ax.com>
Live with the truth you lying sack of shit slanderous Jew
bastard.
Message-ID: <ad5ggvc0kntifamk3...@4ax.com>
All shit like you have is lies and smears. Shit like you can't refute
what I post so shit like you resort to cheap personal attacks and you
wonder why kike filth is hated so much!
Message-ID: <oa9plv4q1bp4j2elp...@4ax.com>
Get a clue you stupid kike bastard!
Message-ID: <ddjomvk4e9bs1f6e9...@4ax.com>
Only anti-Christs, babykillers, homose, Pharisees, commies
and other such filth don't like me.
Message-ID: <jb08nv4bm1gg6bc5p...@4ax.com>
I bet you are a Yid and your name is Sid!
Message-ID: <31hfvvsvgma585nss...@4ax.com>
Can't refute it can you kike?
Message-ID: <rk1310tm2ib3q1ad5...@4ax.com>
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--
-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!
-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and
the bulk of my posts prove so! You can't discern the difference.
BTW my name is not Fatboy you stupid kike.
--Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above
Sara Salzman
Hash: SHA1
In article <u8p440dmc89lrbeji...@4ax.com>,
Sam Drucker <sam_drucker@hooterville_001.net> wrote:
> http://www.einsatzgruppenarchive.com/<My Phone Number Deleted>
>
>
Scott Bradbury on the Gentle Art of Debate:
Libel is grounds if Leon is telling his bitch pig daughter such vile
stuff and then having it made public!
Message-ID: <0ciktv8tgf9mkah5a...@4ax.com>
Why don't you accept my challenge you pernicious little shit?
Message-ID: <s012uvg6v38c9ont7...@4ax.com>
Why don't you kill yourself BUT take out two more of your fellow
shits before you do!
Message-ID: <uara10h2b539epgj0...@4ax.com>
It is your kind who are the laughoing staocks and that is why all of
you are so bitter!
Message-ID: <s8ft10hi1l547f0fo...@4ax.com>
NOW GO FUCK YOURSELF PULP MAN!!
Message-ID: <rpul00tk1ajl83bjl...@4ax.com>
Now who is the lair?
Message-ID: <tso010h6vh9nq6vlf...@4ax.com>
Whois the imbecile now you pea brain!?
Message-ID: <imef10h5ki6tt4gdj...@4ax.com>
I AM STARTING TO CROSS POST MY REPLIES TO OTHER NEWS GROUPS TO
GREATLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET YOUR TRAVELING COMPANION AND OTHER
ACCOMPLICES TO STOP!! I HAVE A BIG LIST OF NEO-NAZI GROUPS I HAVE
SEARCHED FOR THAT I WILL BE GLAD TO CROSS POST TO!
Message-ID: <hd50201eiqr68doif...@4ax.com>
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Ken Lewis
<sam_drucker@hooterville_001.net> wrote:
>I warned you about posting where I live!!
> Seeing how people like to post where I live then I will post where
> the people live who made such info public in the first place!
>Sara Salzman
Thanks for the reminder, Bradshit. I am falling behind on my quota.
Scott Bradbury
13 N Mechanic Street
Bellville, Texas, 77418
979-865-9711
Sam Drucker
Ken Lewis <kml...@nospam.shawwww.ca> wrote:
>On 29 Feb 2004 22:17:29 GMT, Sam Drucker
><sam_drucker@hooterville_001.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I warned you about posting where I live!!
>
>> Seeing how people like to post where I live then I will post where
>> the people live who made such info public in the first place!
>>Sara Salzman
>
>Thanks for the reminder, Bradshit. I am falling behind on my quota.
Does everyone now see how Jewish Pharisees and their minions operate? When they
can't refute people they resort to the tactics you all now see!
NOW FOR EYE FOR AN EYE:
http://bbslist.textfiles.com/250/250.txt
--------------+----------------------------------------------------------
250-747-0017 | Admin Assistant, Electric Zen, Zen Crafters
SYSOP | K. Lewis, Ken Lewis
Reverse lookup of 250-747-0017 using:
http://www.infospace.com/_1_2RD8T7O03N2ZH8O__canada/redirs_all.htm?pgtarg=reve&
Yields:
Ken Lewis 250-747-0017
1944 Beach Cres
Quesnel, BC V2J 4J6
Ken Lewis tips me off with:
Try a real reverse lookup, stupid.
http://www.mytelus.com/phonebook/reverselookup.do
Message-ID: <lb6i209ckiohbekn3...@4ax.com>
-------------------------------------------------
So I took his advice and got:
http://tinyurl.com/3yznl Return using Ken Lewis' link:
(Archived locally as: KML605ELM)
Ken Lewis
602 Elm Street Apt. 5
Quesnel, BC V2J3X1
Home: (250) 747 - 1121
Click to enlarge map
http://tinyurl.com/25crk
(Archived locally as: MAP2_605-ELM)
Hell they even gave a map to how to find you punk! Thanks for the advice
asswipe! I guess you did move BUT you are still in Quesnel you stupid punk
bastard!
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Ken Lewis' Picture: http://www.einsatzgruppenarchives.com/ken/ken2.jpg
----------------------Famous Last Words---------------------------------
"As I said, Bradbury. It's ain't my address. You aren't even close."
Message-ID: <1hjf20hc85fdip5br...@4ax.com> Feb 9, 2004
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http://www.einsatzgruppenarchives.com/index.html
(Link active February 9, 2004. Archived locally as: Ken Lewis Einsatzgruppen)
Send mail to: electri...@yahoo.com
Electric Zen Ken Lewis
Website Popularity Rated by WhozOnTop.com
http://whozontop.com/icdirect/TopByCity.asp?catID=7111
City Directory Quesnel, Canada
Category Educational Consultants
<END>
http://whozontop.com/icdirect/TopByCity.asp?catID=7111
(Link active February 9, 2004. Archived locally as: Ken Lewis Quesnel Link)
Top Ranked Sites | Quesnel | British Columbia | Canada
Rank Web Site Name City Category Hits/Day
1 The Einsatzgruppen Quesnel Educational Consultants 222.10
History of the SS Einsatzgruppen mobile killing units.
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And the above was from a link from Ken Lewis' very own web site too!
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Seeing how people such as Ken Lewis like to post where I live then I will post
where the people live who made such info public in the first place!
Sara Salzman
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif
4015 S Killarney Way
Aurora, Colorado 80013
303-617-9412
http://kevdb.infospace.com/home/white-pages/kevdb?showrec=15211651:res-us&OTMPL=/white-pages/details.htm&QN=Salzman&QF=S&QC=Aurora&QS=co
(Link active February 4, 2004. Archived locally as: infospace_Ssalzman2)
(Source: Public Information)
I am being harassed by having my confidential information being posted along
with death threats, forged child porn ads being posted which give out my address
etc., having phoney sex offender lists posted which give out my address, having
magazine and catalog subscriptions forged in my identity etc. FOR A FACT it was
Yale F. Edeiken and Yale F. Edeiken alone who subpoenaed my confidential info
from my ISP and made the subpoenaed info public.
http://maps.infospace.com/home/kevmap?OP=GeoCode&OTMPL=kevmap2/mapresults.htm&qa=918+N+Bayard+St&qc=Allentown&qs=pa&ver=14132
(Archived locally as: 918N_Bayard)
Yale F. Edeiken
918 N Bayard St
Allentown PA 18104
Tel 610 435-9820
(Source: Court documents)
Sara Salzman
Hash: SHA1
In article <eas440l4c9lclmbms...@4ax.com>,
Sam Drucker <sam_drucker@hooterville_001.net> wrote:
> ---- Ken Lewis' Picture:
> http://www.einsatzgruppenarchives.com/ken/ken2.jpg
> ----------------------Famous Last
> Words--------------------------------- "As I said, Bradbury. It's
> ain't my address. You aren't even close." Message-ID:
> <1hjf20hc85fdip5br...@4ax.com> Feb 9, 2004
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---- http://www.einsatzgruppenarchives.com/index.html
> (Link active February 9, 2004. Archived locally as: Ken Lewis
> Einsatzgruppen) Send mail to: electri...@yahoo.com
> Electric Zen Ken Lewis
> Website Popularity Rated by WhozOnTop.com
> http://whozontop.com/icdirect/TopByCity.asp?catID=7111
> City Directory Quesnel, Canada
> Category Educational Consultants
> <END>
> http://whozontop.com/icdirect/TopByCity.asp?catID=7111
> (Link active February 9, 2004. Archived locally as: Ken Lewis
> Quesnel Link) Top Ranked Sites | Quesnel | British Columbia |
> Canada
> Rank Web Site Name City Category Hits/Day
> 1 The Einsatzgruppen Quesnel Educational Consultants 222.10
> History of the SS Einsatzgruppen mobile killing units.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----
> And the above was from a link from Ken Lewis' very own web site
> too!
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----- Seeing how people such as Ken Lewis like to post where I live
> then I will post
> where the people live who made such info public in the first place!
> Sara Salzman
Scott Bradbury Christians and Jews:
NOW DROP DEAD YOU LYING YID!
Message-ID: <o0kq109ecnjlb5ibq...@4ax.com>
I have news you kike vermin- I am NOT a defendant!!
Message-ID: <1o94tvgnsprea3kk5...@4ax.com>
I will call you shits kikes as long as you act like obnoxious
self-righteous Pharisees!
Message-ID: <mktctvs84a80d8j69...@4ax.com>
Can't refute it can you kike?
Message-ID: <rk1310tm2ib3q1ad5...@4ax.com>
TELL KIKE EDEIKEN TO RE-FILE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO HIM!! There have
been new elections in Pennsylvania and I am filing all new complaints
with people who are listening. You won't be so cocky when Yale gets
disbarred and all on account of little ol' me!
Message-ID: <k39l00dua228p7t66...@4ax.com>
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<catamont-5E0D66...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>> http://www.einsatzgruppenarchive.com/<My Phone Number Deleted>
http://www.einsatzgruppenarchive.com/<303-617-9412>
>Scott Bradbury on the Gentle Art of Debate:
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 08:34:12 -0700,
<catamont-A4709C...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 09:32:31 -0800, <c1qjb...@enews1.newsguy.com>
>"Ken McVay, OBC" <spam...@nizkor.org> wrote:
>
>Scott Bradbury's address and phone number:
>>
>> Seeing how people like to post where I live then I will post
>> where the people live who made such info public in the first place!
>> Sara Salzman
<<Sara Salzman's one sided out of context quotes deleted. She is not even honest
enough to show what was being done to me which would evoke the remarks she likes
to quote out of context. BTW Sara- if you are going to quote me then at least
show what I replied to because anything less is dishonest and most sensible
people are turned off by artfully edited sound bites. But what can one expect
from a person who would in an affidavit submitted to a civil court?>>
You were warned and you chose to act in a way which only proves you approve of
people continually posting where I live!
I.E.
From: Wally Cleaver <wally_cleaver@mayfield01net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: To the patient and frustrated readers of a.r.
Reply-To: wally_cleaver@mayfield01net
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<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
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>
>> On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 09:09:25 -0700,
>> <catamont-8E472F...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
>> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>>
>> >First of all, I must apologize for my part in the pissing war
>> >Scott Bradbury is now engaging in.
>> >
>> >I feel it's important to explain my position and to help the rest
>> >of you get through this.
>> >
>> >1. I feel I must, for the sake of the archives, respond when Mr.
>> >Bradbury blames me for his predicament and posts my address and
>> >phone number.
>> >
>> >2. I will not lower myself by responding personally, but will
>> >simply point out some of the other things Mr. Bradbury has said
>> >during his Usenet career.
>> >
>> >3. I will also change the subject line of each of these posts to
>> >"Thus Spoke Bradbury," so that those of you who don't want to read
>> >any more of Mr. Bradbury's filth can easily killfile them.
>> >
>> >4. I will continue to engage in exchanges of information on other
>> >topics, as I always have, but whenever the subject line is "Thus
>> >Spoke Bradbury," my contribution consists solely of quoting Mr.
>> >Bradbury.
>> >
>> >Thank you for your understanding,
>> >Sara
>> >
>>
>> That in no way is what I requested you to do!
>>
>
>Who cares what you requested me to do?
>
>You lost any right to "request" anything of me a long time ago, Mr.
>Bradbury. I have absolutely no interest in what you "request," nor
>was this addressed to you. You're not patient or frustrated, you're a
>foul-mouthed, vile old lunatic.
>
Squeal all you want you fat pig BUT you have been informed of this numerous
times and I see no effort on your part!
I KEEP TELLING YOU BUT YOU AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION!! AS LONG AS YOUR PALS KEEP
POSTING WHERE I LIVE THEN I WILL KEEP POSTING WHERE THE TWO SHITS LIVE WHO MADE
THE INFO AVAILABLE IN THE FIRST PLACE!!
Until I see a demonstrated effort on your behalf to have
them stop then I will do what I do and remember I did post this:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=glrd309ul0aefgln41h3agoo28n78ti2qb%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: The True Stalkers and Those Who are the Harassers! aka Re: Patrick Lee
Humphrey Message-ID: <glrd309ul0aefgln4...@4ax.com>
Date: 21 Feb 2004 05:35:18 GMT
I posted six pleas for a truce and looked the other way while Ken Lewis
continued his violations of my privacy which you took was only motivated by me
being visited by law enforcement! I haven't been visited and that is fact and if
your pals start again then I will continue where I left off. If you don't like
it then get your pals to stop!
[...]
IOW you have no room to utter one peep when one of your pals keeps posting where
I live or by being subtle letting people know where I live as Patrick Humphrey
does by mentioning the town I live in right above the state we live in- in his
sig line! I live in a small town and knowing it and the state is enough for a
kook to find me BUT Patrick Humphrey knows that and that is why he keeps doing
it and for a fact- Patrick only found out where I live because of Yale and YOU!
Yale and YOU started it and your pals continue and I am merely doing the only
thing I can do to discourage it!
If you want me to stop posting where you live then all you need to do is to ask
your pals to stop which you have not done! There is no record of you telling
Patrick or any of the others to stop! If there was then I would think
differently BUT as it is- I see you hiding behind them and still doing the same
while I am being called a stalker for trying to stop the harassment being waged
against me!
You can't have it both ways and you afterall had a major role in uncorking the
Genie!
You are also on records as stating this about your address being posted:
"You're not violating my privacy, Asshole. Your pals Blakely and Ellis
did it years ago. There is NOTHING you can post that isn't public already."
-From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
-Subject: Re: Bruno and Bradshit:, the perfect pair
-Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:34:31 -0700
-Message-ID: <catamont-A12F65...@news-60.giganews.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=catamont-A12F65...@news-60.giganews.com&lr=&hl=en
(Archived locally as: SaraAddressPost_1)
"Posting my address doesn't do a damn thing to me.."
-From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
-Subject: Re: Bruno and Bradshit:, the perfect pair
-Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 22:05:55 -0700
-Message-ID: <catamont-2BEEB5...@news-60.giganews.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=catamont-2BEEB5...@news-60.giganews.com&lr=&hl=en
(Archived locally as: SaraAddressPost_2)
SO WHY THE FUSS!?
You are also on record as stating this when my address and telephone number have
been posted thousands of times because of Yale F. Edeiken illegally distributing
subpoenaed information which was NEVER legally registered with the court-- which
is a felony and which makes you an accomplice to a felonious act! (Care to get a
copy of the docket printout of 1999-C-2786 and see for yourself?)
My address and telephone number were NOT "PUBLIC INFORMATION: because that
subpoena was never registered with the court or as Yale F. Edeiken stated:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=8OSy5.1269%24mC.69080%40monger.newsread.com&rnum=3
(Archived locally as: QuashSubpoena)
Message-ID: <8OSy5.1269$mC.6...@monger.newsread.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 00:27:48 GMT
"Materail that is subpoenaed must be turned over... The material becomes public
information unless a court orders otherwise. Subpoenas are NOT automatically
issued and the other side has an opportnuity to ogject ("quash") any subpoena."
Yale F. Edeiken also denied me my legal right to object to the subpoena and he
was e-mailing me at the time against my expressed will!
Proof Yale F. Edeiken was e-mailing me against my will BEFORE he issued his
subpoena to rape my right to privacy:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=Tavish%20Stop%20e-mailing%20me&safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&lr=&as_drrb=b&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1999&as_maxd=30&as_maxm=11&as_maxy=1999&hl=en
Searched Groups for Tavish Stop e-mailing me from Jan 1, 1999 to Nov 30, 1999.
Results 1 - 10 of about 47
Sample returns:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=omf04.1622%240p4.233526%40news.flash.net&rnum=2
(Archived locally as: YaleMail_1)
More E-Mail From Yale- Edited for Brevity
... to make charges.BTW sphincter muscle- stop e-mailing me! ... time and again
to stop it but ... digsig Authentic Doc Tavish
191xllxyGtVQwy0mtCiBjivyX+knCUXYwdRtptdrtqb ...
sci.skeptic - Nov 28, 1999 by Tavish -
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=swE_3.7751%2416.888799%40news.flash.net&rnum=4
(Archived locally as: YaleMail_2)
Is Yale F. Edeiken as Deluded as Andrew Skolnick? Most Likely!
... not ask you numerous times to desist from e-mailing me? ...
sci.skeptic - Nov 23, 1999 by Tavish
Why didn't Yale allow me my legal right to due process and allow me to quash the
subpoena by e-mail? Yale did afterall state: "Materail that is subpoenaed must
be turned over... Subpoenas are NOT automatically issued and the other side has
an opportnuity to ogject ("quash") any subpoena."
Why would Yale advise me he subpoenaed info from my ISP when it was his belief I
would never find out? For a fact he did not turn the subpoena over to the court
or else it would be on the Docket printout!!
You are evil and malicious Sara as well as Shyster Edeiken and this is my solemn
promise-- each and every time one of your accomplices posts where I live then I
will post where YOU and Yale live and you shouldn't bitch one bit seeing how you
are on record as stating: "It's not confidential, it's PUBLIC INFORMATION...
You're not violating my privacy, Asshole. Your pals Blakely and Ellis
did it years ago. There is NOTHING you can post that isn't public already...
Posting my address doesn't do a damn thing to me.."
SO STOP SQUEALING LIKE A PIG WHEN YOU GET BACK WHAT YOU SO DESERVE!!
Remember:
EYE FOR AN EYE AND TOOTH FOR A TOOTH JUSTICE AS PRESCRIBED BY THE LAW OF MOSES:
Leviticus 24
19 If anyone injures his neighbor, whatever he has done must be done to him:
20 fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. As he has injured the
other, so he is to be injured.
So have YOU and Yale have done to me and so have which YOU and Yale have enabled
others to do to me, and so as has been done to me with your obvious approval- so
the same shall be done to you! YOU ARE REAPING WHAT YOU HAVE SOWN- SO STOP
BITCHING YOU HYPOCRITE!!
Tavish
Sam Drucker
<catamont-2747FE...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
<<Sara Salzman's one sided out of context quotes deleted. She is not even honest
enough to show what was being done to me which would evoke the remarks she likes
to quote out of context. BTW Sara- if you are going to quote me then at least
show what I replied to because anything less is dishonest and most sensible
people are turned off by artfully edited sound bites. But what can one expect
from a person who would in an affidavit submitted to a civil court?>>
You started it along with Yale F. Edeiken and YOU can easily have it stopped YET
you don't want to! You won't admit that Yale and YOU started the whole business
and you choose to keep ignoring this:
I.E.
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[...]
SO WHY THE FUSS!?
My address and telephone number were NOT "PUBLIC INFORMATION: because that
Sample returns:
Remember:
19 If anyone injures his neighbor, whatever he has done must be done to him:
20 fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. As he has injured the
other, so he is to be injured.
So have YOU and Yale have done to me and so have which YOU and Yale have enabled
others to do to me, and so as has been done to me with your obvious approval- so
the same shall be done to you! YOU ARE REAPING WHAT YOU HAVE SOWN- SO STOP
BITCHING YOU HYPOCRITE!!
Tavish
_______________________________________________________________________________
Sam Drucker
Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>Scott Bradbury of Xxxxxx <sam_drucker@hooterville_001.net> writes:
>
>>On 29 Feb 2004 18:03:36 -0600, <szk4qt9...@fnord.io.com> Patrick Lee
>>Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>>>Sam Drucker <sam_drucker@hooterville_001.net> writes:
>
>>>>On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 22:38:36 GMT, <sdq440l5lmjfdr0be...@4ax.com>
>>>>Ken Lewis <kml...@nospam.shawwww.ca> wrote:
>
>>>>>On 29 Feb 2004 22:17:29 GMT, Sam Drucker
>>>>><sam_drucker@hooterville_001.net> wrote:
>
>>>>>>I warned you about posting where I live!!
>
>>>>>Thanks for the reminder, Bradshit. I am falling behind on my quota.
>
>>>>Does everyone now see how Jewish Pharisees and their minions operate? When
>>>>they can't refute people they resort to the tactics you all now see!
>
>>>Everyone gets to see that a fat circus freak in Xxxxxx, Xxxxx takes
>>>statements literally when it suits his hateful purpose.
>
>I repaired your censorship, Double Wide of Xxxxxx. You STILL refuse to
>learn how to avoid that. 'tain't my problem.
You don't knowwhen to stop do you? YOU HAVE NO VALID REASON TO KEEP POSTING
WHERE I LIVE Sooooooooooooo....
Seeing how people like to post where I live then I will post where
the people live who made such info public in the first place!
Sara Salzman
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif
4015 S Killarney Way
Aurora, Colorado 80013
303-617-9412
http://kevdb.infospace.com/home/white-pages/kevdb?showrec=15211651:res-us&OTMPL=/white-pages/details.htm&QN=Salzman&QF=S&QC=Aurora&QS=co
(Link active February 4, 2004. Archived locally as: infospace_Ssalzman2)
<Public Information>
Sara Salzman's favorite excuse for my address and telephone number being posted:
"It's not confidential, it's PUBLIC INFORMATION." YET She doesn't like her info
posted!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I am being harassed by having my confidential information being posted along
with death threats, forged child porn ads being posted which give out my address
etc., having phoney sex offender lists posted which give out my address, having
magazine and catalog subscriptions forged in my identity etc. FOR A FACT it was
Yale F. Edeiken and Yale F. Edeiken alone who subpoenaed my confidential info
from my ISP and made the subpoenaed info public-- now let him receive justice
under the Law of Moses:
Just as has been done to me and is still being done to me and solely because
of Yale F. Edeiken exclusively I will apply the LAW he claims to observe to him:
Leviticus 24:19-20 :: New International Version (NIV)
19 If anyone injures his neighbor, whatever he has done must be done to him:
20 fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. As he has injured the
other, so he is to be injured.
http://maps.infospace.com/home/kevmap?OP=GeoCode&OTMPL=kevmap2/mapresults.htm&qa=918+N+Bayard+St&qc=Allentown&qs=pa&ver=14132
(Archived locally as: 918N_Bayard)
Yale F. Edeiken
918 N Bayard St
Allentown PA 18104
Tel 610 435-9820
Sara Salzman
Hash: SHA1
In article <37b5405gm79dhko7t...@4ax.com>,
Sam Drucker <sam_drucker@hooterville_001.net> wrote:
Scott Bradbury on The Holocaust:
Show where I exhibited Jew Hatred!
Message-ID: <nsqqgvkquvdkrjq2d...@4ax.com>
Now go stick your head in a gas oven and gas yourself!
Message-ID: <0al8001p06bvvuqbk...@4ax.com>
Now go gas yourself!
Message-ID: <aomn10t2cgtkosq64...@4ax.com>
No wonder why the kapos had to slap you stupid shits upside the heads
all the time. You vermin never learn!!
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Stephen Bayzik
> On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:27:01 -0500,
<X9q0c.1363$i_2....@news20.bellglobal.com>
> "Stephen Bayzik" <stephen...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> The following should prove to everyone how the majority of Jews (not
all
> >> Jews mind you) views the rest of humanity...
> >> http://www.lf2.cuni.cz/listserv/ahoj-l/199905/msg00141.html
> >> (Link active July 10, 2003. Archived locally as: msg00141)
> >> Non-Jew Can't Pour Wine for a Jew -- Only a Fellow Jew Can!
> >Excuse me if I am wrong, but this seems like a overt form of anti
Semitism.
> How is showing what Jews teach about non-Jews anti-Semitism when i show
what
> they teach in their own words? I give all URLs for verification too! To
ignore
> their bigotry and to imply I am an anti-Semite is indicative of people who
have
> been blinded by the Clergy of Christendom who have accepted their thirty
pieces
> of silver from the Pharisees.
Two reasons Sam:-
1. Neither yourself or many others (the type that post the material that you
give the URL's to) haven't got a clue as to what be Judaism.
2. Why even bother to inform others of these hate inspired sources of anti
Semitism?
--
Stephen Bayzik
Stephen Bayzik
news:szksmgt...@fnord.io.com...
> "Stephen Bayzik" <stephen...@sympatico.ca> writes:
> >Excuse me if I am wrong, but this seems like a overt form of anti
Semitism.
> That's about all R. Scott Bradbury (the documented Jew hater who posts
under
> several hundred aliases, including "Sam Drucker") of Bellville, Texas is
> capable of.
Maybe I should send that individual two boards and three nails. Perhaps he
can find some Jew by Good Friday.
Take care,
--
Stephen Bayzik
Patrick Lee Humphrey
>> "Stephen Bayzik" <stephen...@sympatico.ca> writes:
If anyone would try to do an authentic re-enactment of The Passion, it'd be
Bradbury...but these days, he's more interested in shooting me if I set foot
on his landlord's property. (Since I never have, and obviously am not stupid
enough to contemplate doing so, given his threat, I wouldn't encourage him to
go looking for anyone Jewish, given his assumptions that anyone who dares
point out his idiocy is Jewish, by default.)
Sam Drucker
Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>"Stephen Bayzik" <stephen...@sympatico.ca> writes:
>
>>"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
>>news:szksmgt...@fnord.io.com...
>
>>> "Stephen Bayzik" <stephen...@sympatico.ca> writes:
>
>>> >Excuse me if I am wrong, but this seems like a overt form of anti Semitism.
>
>>> That's about all R. Scott Bradbury (the documented Jew hater who posts under
>>> several hundred aliases, including "Sam Drucker") of Xxxxxx, Xxxxx is
>>> capable of.
STOP POSTING WHERE I LIVE PATRICK!! YOU HAVE NO LEGITIMATE REASON TO BE DOING
SO!! HOW MANY OTHER PEOPLE MAKE IT A POINT TO POINT OUT WHERE PEOPLE LIVE WITH
EACH AND EVERY POST LIKE YOU DO TO ME!! In keeping my policy:
Seeing how people like to post where I live then I will post where
the people live who made such info public in the first place!
Sara Salzman
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif
4015 S Killarney Way
Aurora, Colorado 80013
303-617-9412
http://kevdb.infospace.com/home/white-pages/kevdb?showrec=15359889:res-us&OTMPL=/white-pages/details.htm&QN=Salzman&QF=S&QC=Aurora&QS=co
(Link active March 1, 2004. Archived locally as: infospace_Ssalzman2)
>>Maybe I should send that individual two boards and three nails. Perhaps he
>>can find some Jew by Good Friday.
>
>If anyone would try to do an authentic re-enactment of The Passion, it'd be
>Bradbury...but these days, he's more interested in shooting me if I set foot
>on his landlord's property. (Since I never have, and obviously am not stupid
>enough to contemplate doing so, given his threat, I wouldn't encourage him to
>go looking for anyone Jewish, given his assumptions that anyone who dares
>point out his idiocy is Jewish, by default.)
>
>--
> Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
> www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
Sam Drucker
Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>Scott Bradbury of Xxxxxxx <sam_drucker@hooterville_001.net> writes:
>
>>On 29 Feb 2004 19:59:46 -0600, <szk65dp...@fnord.io.com> Patrick Lee
>>Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>>>Scott Bradbury of Xxxxxx <sam_drucker@hooterville_001.net> writes:
>
>>>>On 29 Feb 2004 18:03:36 -0600, <szk4qt9...@fnord.io.com> Patrick Lee
>>>>Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>Sam Drucker <sam_drucker@hooterville_001.net> writes:
>
>>>>>>On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 22:38:36 GMT, <sdq440l5lmjfdr0be...@4ax.com>
>>>>>>Ken Lewis <kml...@nospam.shawwww.ca> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>On 29 Feb 2004 22:17:29 GMT, Sam Drucker
>>>>>>><sam_drucker@hooterville_001.net> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>I warned you about posting where I live!!
>
>>>>>>>Thanks for the reminder, Bradshit. I am falling behind on my quota.
>
>>>>>>Does everyone now see how Jewish Pharisees and their minions operate? When
>>>>>>they can't refute people they resort to the tactics you all now see!
>
>>>>>Everyone gets to see that a fat circus freak in Xxxxx, Xxxxxx takes
>>>>>statements literally when it suits his hateful purpose.
>
>>>I repaired your censorship, Double Wide of Xxxxxx. You STILL refuse to
>>>learn how to avoid that. 'tain't my problem.
>
>>You don't knowwhen to stop do you? YOU HAVE NO VALID REASON TO KEEP POSTING
>>WHERE I LIVE Sooooooooooooo....
>
>...you're still a delusional two tons of shit in a box, Blubber Boy -- and as
>long as you keep forging what I posted, I'll keep it up. You obviously can't
>intimidate me enough to stop it, so what are YOU gonna do, Nutless Wonder of
>Xxxxxx? (Crossposting your crap to a dozen religious newsgroups isn't
>going to win you any friends, either.)
It shows how Pharisees and their gentile dupes handle their opposition!
STOP POSTING WHERE I LIVE PATRICK!! YOU HAVE NO LEGITIMATE REASON TO BE DOING
SO!! HOW MANY OTHER PEOPLE MAKE IT A POINT TO POINT OUT WHERE PEOPLE LIVE WITH
EACH AND EVERY POST LIKE YOU DO TO ME!! In keeping my policy:
Seeing how people like to post where I live then I will post where
the people live who made such info public in the first place!
Sara Salzman
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif
4015 S Killarney Way
Aurora, Colorado 80013
303-617-9412
http://kevdb.infospace.com/home/white-pages/kevdb?showrec=15359889:res-us&OTMPL=/white-pages/details.htm&QN=Salzman&QF=S&QC=Aurora&QS=co
(Link active March 1, 2004. Archived locally as: infospace_Ssalzman2)
Sam Drucker
<catamont-D26E3C...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> http://tinyurl.com/yuwle wrote:
"It's not confidential, it's PUBLIC INFORMATION... You're not violating my
privacy, Asshole. Your pals Blakely and Ellis did it years ago. There is NOTHING
you can post that isn't public already... Posting my address doesn't do a damn
thing to me.."
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
Out of context and one sided quotes deleted for being dishonest. If Sara wants
to quote me then she should show the full context of my words and to what I was
replying to! Heh Sara- why don';t you have the guts and honesty to show what I
was replying to? YOU NEVER SHOW THE INSULTS AND PERSONAL ATTACKS YOU AND YOUR
NASTY PLAYMATES THROW MY WAY and you are also on record as stating:
"You know, you are sounding more and more like a 5-year-old. Grow up and
ignore the insults. That's what adults do."
-From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
-Subject: Re: DALE ANN HUMPHREY
-Date: 22 Apr 2003 03:22:39 GMT
-Message-ID: <catamont-9B6270...@news.spellbndr.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=catamont-9B6270...@news.spellbndr.com&lr=&hl=en
(Archived locally as: SaraFistHyp)
You need to tell your very rude playmates to cease and desist from posting where
I live because as long as they do I will post where YOU and Yale live! You can
count on it Sara!
Tavish
>-
Sam Drucker
Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>Scott Bradbury of Potrzebie <sam_drucker@hooterville_001.net> writes:
>
>>On 29 Feb 2004 22:04:52 -0600, <szk65dp...@fnord.io.com> Patrick Lee
>>Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>>>Scott Bradbury of Xxxxxx <sam_drucker@hooterville_001.net> writes:
>
>>>>On 29 Feb 2004 19:56:22 -0600, <szkad31...@fnord.io.com> Patrick Lee
>>>>Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>point out your clinical case of OCD, and let you demonstrate what a
>>>>>blithering idiot you are, what's your problem, Nutless Wonder of Xxxxxxx?
Seeing how people like to post where I live then I will post where
the people live who made such info public in the first place!
Sara Salzman
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif
4015 S Killarney Way
Aurora, Colorado 80013
303-617-9412
http://kevdb.infospace.com/home/white-pages/kevdb?showrec=15359889:res-us&OTMPL=/white-pages/details.htm&QN=Salzman&QF=S&QC=Aurora&QS=co
(Link active March 1, 2004. Archived locally as: infospace_Ssalzman2)
>>STOP POSTING WHERE I LIVE PATRICK!! YOU HAVE NO LEGITIMATE REASON TO BE DOING
>>SO!! HOW MANY OTHER PEOPLE MAKE IT A POINT TO POINT OUT WHERE PEOPLE LIVE WITH
>>EACH AND EVERY POST LIKE YOU DO TO ME!! In keeping my policy:
>
>...you'll continue to convince an ever-increasing number of people that you
>are, in fact, insane. Don't let me stop you from *that* mission.
Then why did you delete the news grouups posted to? Afraid people will see my
opposition for the evil people they are?
YOU HAVE NO LEGITIMATE REASON TO KEEP POSTING WHERE I LIVE OTHER THAN TO HARASS
ME!!! CARE TO NAME A LEGIT REASON?
Sam Drucker
Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>Scott Bradbury of Greasy Creek <sam_drucker@hooterville_001.net> writes:
>
>>On 29 Feb 2004 22:12:08 -0600, <szk1xod...@fnord.io.com> Patrick Lee
>>Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>>>Scott Bradbury of Xxxxx <sam_drucker@hooterville_001.net> writes:
>
>>>>On 29 Feb 2004 19:59:46 -0600, <szk65dp...@fnord.io.com> Patrick Lee
>>>>Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>Scott Bradbury of Xxxxxx <sam_drucker@hooterville_001.net> writes:
>
>>>>>>On 29 Feb 2004 18:03:36 -0600, <szk4qt9...@fnord.io.com> Patrick Lee
>>>>>>Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>Sam Drucker <sam_drucker@hooterville_001.net> writes:
>
>>>>>>>>On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 22:38:36 GMT, <sdq440l5lmjfdr0be...@4ax.com>
>>>>>>>>Ken Lewis <kml...@nospam.shawwww.ca> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>On 29 Feb 2004 22:17:29 GMT, Sam Drucker
>>>>>>>>><sam_drucker@hooterville_001.net> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>>I warned you about posting where I live!!
Seeing how people like to post where I live then I will post where
>>>>>>>>>Thanks for the reminder, Bradshit. I am falling behind on my quota.
>
>>>>>>>>Does everyone now see how Jewish Pharisees and their minions operate?
>>>>>>>>When they can't refute people they resort to the tactics you all now
>>>>>>>>see!
>
>>>>>>>Everyone gets to see that a fat circus freak in Xxxxxx, Xxxxx takes
>>>>>>>statements literally when it suits his hateful purpose.
>
>>>>>I repaired your censorship, Double Wide of Xxxxxx. You STILL refuse to
>>>>>learn how to avoid that. 'tain't my problem.
>
>>>>You don't knowwhen to stop do you? YOU HAVE NO VALID REASON TO KEEP POSTING
>>>>WHERE I LIVE Sooooooooooooo....
>
>>>...you're still a delusional two tons of shit in a box, Blubber Boy -- and as
>>>long as you keep forging what I posted, I'll keep it up. You obviously can't
>>>intimidate me enough to stop it, so what are YOU gonna do, Nutless Wonder of
>>>Xxxxx? (Crossposting your crap to a dozen religious newsgroups isn't
>>>going to win you any friends, either.)
>
>>It shows how Pharisees and their gentile dupes handle their opposition!
>
>Free clue, Ethyl Alcohol Boy: the Pharisees have been dead for going on two
>thousand years by now. Try and live in THIS millennium, for a change.
>
>[robo-rant Bradshite thrown out]
Ken Lewis
<sam_drucker@hooterville_001.net> wrote:
[snip]
>You don't knowwhen to stop do you? YOU HAVE NO VALID REASON TO KEEP POSTING
>WHERE I LIVE Sooooooooooooo....
>
> Seeing how people like to post where I live then I will post where
> the people live who made such info public in the first place!
>Sara Salzman
Sure he does. The reason is because you keep posting Sara's address.
That is all the reason anyone needs, Bradshit.
Sam Drucker
Raymond
"Ken Lewis" <kml...@nospam.shawwww.ca> wrote in message
news:1kv640lcli2dpleq5...@4ax.com...
Also it is public knowledge any one with connections to the internet can run
a name check and find such information out, some even will draw a map to
their door. If they have a telephone and is listed it is then public.