Fat Ernst & The Village People don't know the half of it.
Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken
<catamont-DDCCB3...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In article <748l30pa49l5dmrjr...@4ax.com>,
> Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken <F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote:
>
>> "Ken McVay, OBC" <spam...@nizkor.org> did write:
>>
>> >It seems Bill Grosvenor is still afraid to publish under his own
>> >name. That's because he has no evidence that I have ever been
>> >arrested, let alone convicted, of any crime,
>>
>> Is that so? Did this Jewish reporter lie when he reported this?
>>
>> http://www.ajc.org/InTheMedia/Publications.asp?did=135&pid=21
>> (Link active February 11, 2004. Archived locally as JailbirdMcVay)
>> Also: http://www.ajc.org/InTheMedia/PublicationsPrint.asp?did=135
>> (Link active February 23, 2004. Archived locally as JailbirdMcVay2)
>>
>> The American Jewish Committee
>>
>> "Hate and the Internet
>> by Kenneth S. Stern
Why did you delete this and throw out your red herring?
("Hate and the Internet by Kenneth S. Stern)
"My whole agenda is to try and remove their market, as it were. They have an
agenda to sell. If, by demonstrating that they are lying about a specific issue,
I can remove a few hundred people from their potential market place, then I’ve
done them some harm." – Ken McVay, Project Nizkor In 1956 Ken McVay stole his
father’s car and ran away from home. Apprehended, he spent his 16th birthday in
a Bellingham, Washington, jail.... <END>
Oooops looks like you have been caught lying again McVay! The "American Jewish
Committee" reported: "Ken McVay, Project Nizkor In 1956 Ken McVay stole his
father’s car and ran away from home. Apprehended, he spent his 16th birthday in
a Bellingham, Washington, jail" YET you stated above: "he has no evidence that I
have ever been arrested, let alone convicted, of any crime"!
Isn't being "Apprehended" the same thing as being "arrested"? YOU DO HAVE A
POLICE RECORD TOO! Care to deny it Jail Bird McVay? Here's laughing at you!!
>I LOVE it.
>
>HINT TO IDIOT: Kenneth Stern is not a "reporter.
So I erred in what I called him but the fact remains and which you wish to dodge
is McVay was caught in a lie when he stated: "It seems Bill Grosvenor is still
afraid to publish under his own name. That's because he has no evidence that I
have ever been arrested, let alone convicted, of any crime..." YET
Kenneth S, Stern "reported": "Ken McVay, Project Nizkor In 1956 Ken McVay stole
his father’s car and ran away from home. Apprehended, he spent his 16th birthday
in a Bellingham, Washington, jail.."
SEE HOW DISHONEST YOU ARE YOU FAT DISGUSTING PIG!?
The point is not whether Stern is a reporter or not- the point is McVay lied
about being arrested as a car thief!!
>Sara
NOW GO FIST YOURSELF YOU DIRTY SWINE!
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=hpa1uv0m63koaqbo4...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: V2.0b Sara "The Fist" Salzman's Attempt at Revisionism FAILS- She Wrote
The FIST Postings! Date: 17 Dec 2003 19:40:10 GMT
Message-ID: <hpa1uv0m63koaqbo4...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=ige2uvsjk0bfi54at...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: Re: V2.0b Sara "The Fist" Salzman's Attempt at Revisionism FAILS- She
Wrote The FIST Postings! Date: 18 Dec 2003 06:13:32 GMT
Message-ID: <ige2uvsjk0bfi54at...@4ax.com>
Despite overwhelming evidence Sara "The Fist" will keep repeating
her lies and remain in denial.
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Sara Salzman aka Sara "The Fist" Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> did post:
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From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: Fist fucking (1)
Message-ID: <sschwartz-110...@p14.infinet.com>
Date: 11 Feb 95 13:19:07 GMT
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In article <3hg9a1$i...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, lant...@aol.com (L
Antoniou) wrote:
> Perhaps you should read the messages before responding. If you read all
> of mine, you will see that eventually I do suggest the "duck" position -
> all fingers together. What I (and Elf) was responding to was the
> suggestion that one *begin* fisting in that position. Of course, you go
> on to say *exactly that*.
>
In fact, Laura, I did NOT say you should begin in the "duck" position. I
just stated that it was the eventual position to achieve.
I'm sorry if I did not make that clear in my post. I *did* state that fist
fucking was not something I had done very often, and merely wanted to
impart my own (limited) experience. <END>
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Imagine the person in these photos assuming the "duck" position
and "fisting" herself!
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/2/image.gif
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=0ap6uv43dm8uefmm3...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: Is Sara "The Whipped" Salzman Still Being Whipped by Her Husband's
Electric Whipping Machine?
Message-ID: <0ap6uv43dm8uefmm3...@4ax.com>
Date: 19 Dec 2003 22:00:00 GMT
Tavish
_______________________________________________________________________________
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John Morris
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In <i5dl30ljtosdr8sfq...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
on 24 Feb 2004 02:26:06 GMT, Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken
<F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote:
> The point is not whether Stern is a reporter or not- the point is
> McVay lied about being arrested as a car thief!!
You haven't shown us anything that McVay was arrested as a car thief.
Are you going to? Are are just going to call people rude names?
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
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>In <i5dl30ljtosdr8sfq...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
>on 24 Feb 2004 02:26:06 GMT, Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken
><F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote:
>
>> The point is not whether Stern is a reporter or not- the point is
>> McVay lied about being arrested as a car thief!!
>
>You haven't shown us anything that McVay was arrested as a car thief.
Why did you delete what was posted? What else was McVay arrested or apprehended
for- jay walking?
"Ken McVay, OBC" <spam...@nizkor.org> did write:
>It seems Bill Grosvenor is still afraid to publish under his own name.
>That's because he has no evidence that I have ever been arrested, let alone
>convicted, of any crime,
http://www.ajc.org/InTheMedia/Publications.asp?did=135&pid=21
(Link active February 11, 2004. Archived locally as JailbirdMcVay)
Also: http://www.ajc.org/InTheMedia/PublicationsPrint.asp?did=135
(Link active February 23, 2004. Archived locally as JailbirdMcVay2)
The American Jewish Committee
"Hate and the Internet
by Kenneth S. Stern
On-Line Approaches
"My whole agenda is to try and remove their market, as it were. They have an
agenda to sell. If, by demonstrating that they are lying about a specific issue,
I can remove a few hundred people from their potential market place, then I’ve
done them some harm." – Ken McVay, Project Nizkor In 1956 Ken McVay stole his
father’s car and ran away from home. Apprehended, he spent his 16th birthday in
a Bellingham, Washington, jail.... <END>
Oooops looks like you have been caught lying again McVay! The "American Jewish
Committee" reported: "Ken McVay, Project Nizkor In 1956 Ken McVay stole his
father’s car and ran away from home. Apprehended, he spent his 16th birthday in
a Bellingham, Washington, jail" YET you stated above: "he has no evidence that I
have ever been arrested, let alone convicted, of any crime"!
Isn't being "Apprehended" the same thing as being "arrested"?
WordNet 2.0 Vocabulary Helper: apprehended
The verb apprehend has 3 senses (first 2 from tagged texts)
1. (2) get the picture, comprehend, savvy, dig, grasp, compass, apprehend -- get
the meaning of something; ``Do you comprehend the meaning of this letter?''
2. (1) collar, nail, apprehend, arrest, pick up, nab, cop -- (take into custody;
``the police nabbed the suspected criminals'' )
3. apprehend, quail at -- (anticipate with dread or anxiety)
W=hich sense of "apprehended" applies to Ken McVay? ANSWER: "collar, nail,
apprehend, arrest, pick up, nab, cop -- (take into custody; ``the police
nabbed the suspected criminals'' )
>Are you going to? Are are just going to call people rude names?
So he's a Jail Bird and he was apprehended or arrested for car theft!! LIVE WITH
IT!!
John Morris
Hash: SHA1
In <n4ml30lmc2bnuko4j...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
on 24 Feb 2004 04:59:38 GMT, Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken
<F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 04:19:04 GMT,
> <j3kl30hq69c2jrc9t...@4ax.com> John Morris
> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
> >In <i5dl30ljtosdr8sfq...@4ax.com> in
> >alt.revisionism, on 24 Feb 2004 02:26:06 GMT, Dedicated to Yale F.
> >Edeiken
> ><F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote:
> >> The point is not whether Stern is a reporter or not- the point
> >> is McVay lied about being arrested as a car thief!!
> >You haven't shown us anything that McVay was arrested as a car
> >thief.
> Why did you delete what was posted? What else was McVay arrested or
> apprehended for- jay walking?
According to article you posted, he was fifteen years old and ran
away from home.
Do you think that might be a possibility?
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
>In <n4ml30lmc2bnuko4j...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
>on 24 Feb 2004 04:59:38 GMT, Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken
><F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 04:19:04 GMT,
>> <j3kl30hq69c2jrc9t...@4ax.com> John Morris
>> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
>
>> >In <i5dl30ljtosdr8sfq...@4ax.com> in
>> >alt.revisionism, on 24 Feb 2004 02:26:06 GMT, Dedicated to Yale F.
>> >Edeiken <F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote:
>
>> >> The point is not whether Stern is a reporter or not- the point
>> >> is McVay lied about being arrested as a car thief!!
>
>> >You haven't shown us anything that McVay was arrested as a car
>> >thief.
>
>> Why did you delete what was posted? What else was McVay arrested or
>> apprehended for- jay walking?
>
>According to article you posted, he was fifteen years old and ran
>away from home.
And he stole a car!!
>Do you think that might be a possibility?
Youths don't get arrested and sent to jail for running away from home BUT they
do get arrested and go to jail for car theft which is why your hero was arrested
and went to jail! LIVE WITH IT!
What you keep wanting to avoid:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 04:19:04 GMT, <j3kl30hq69c2jrc9t...@4ax.com>
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
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>In <i5dl30ljtosdr8sfq...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
>on 24 Feb 2004 02:26:06 GMT, Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken
><F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote:
>
>> The point is not whether Stern is a reporter or not- the point is
>> McVay lied about being arrested as a car thief!!
>
>You haven't shown us anything that McVay was arrested as a car thief.
Why did you delete what was posted? What else was McVay arrested or apprehended
for- jay walking?
"Ken McVay, OBC" <spam...@nizkor.org> did write:
The American Jewish Committee
On-Line Approaches
Which sense of "apprehended" applies to Ken McVay? ANSWER: "collar, nail,
apprehend, arrest, pick up, nab, cop -- (take into custody; ``the police
nabbed the suspected criminals'' )
>Are you going to? Are are just going to call people rude names?
So he's a Jail Bird and he was apprehended or arrested for car theft!! LIVE WITH
IT!!
Not only does McVay lie about being arrested for a criminal act he lies about
his funding which is detailed below!
Tavish
--Did NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Pay Tax On Those $50k+ Donations He Denies
Receiving From the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund?--
NEWER UPDATED VERSION:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=g89720p41v7g4qtt1qbrd96bpv5joj9kao%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: The Nizkor Project Director is Lying About Funds He Has NOT Reported to
CCRA!! SAAF Report for 2002 Is Further Proof! V2.0 S_0206
Message-ID: <g89720p41v7g4qtt1...@4ax.com>
Date: 6 Feb 2004 14:57:46 GMT
AKA "Did NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Pay Tax On Those $50k+ Donations He
Denies Receiving From the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
COMICAL DENIAL OF DOCUMENTED FACTS:
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=nlol001kbp1kh698t...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: Re: Ken McVay's (Director of The Nizkor Project) $50,000+ Tax Evasion
Exposed aka Re: Gosh Darn Uppity Juice!
Message-ID: <nlol001kbp1kh698t...@4ax.com>
Date: 18 Jan 2004 21:17:40 GMT
==============================
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=es3i30tkn9ddmdtt7...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: Re: The Nizkor Project Director is Lying About Funds He Has NOT
Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Report for 2002 Is Further Proof! V2.0 S_0221
Message-ID: <es3i30tkn9ddmdtt7...@4ax.com>
References: <jahf30doaufvar695...@4ax.com>
<ea33fe7c.0402...@posting.google.com>
Date: 22 Feb 2004 22:45:55 GMT
OLDER ORIGINAL VERSION:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=07qc8vguuom77pvmugliksb3dmdf8pp82r%404ax.com&rnum=6
Subject: Did NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Pay Tax On Those $50k+ Donations He
Denies Receiving From the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
Message-ID: <07qc8vguuom77pvmu...@4ax.com>
Date: 30 Mar 2003 03:49:22 GMT
John Morris
Hash: SHA1
In <v5jm301l3oob0dopa...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
on 24 Feb 2004 13:13:51 GMT, Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken
<F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 05:27:54 GMT,
> <92ol305n1aaaneemu...@4ax.com> John Morris
> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
> >In <n4ml30lmc2bnuko4j...@4ax.com> in
> >alt.revisionism, on 24 Feb 2004 04:59:38 GMT, Dedicated to Yale F.
> >Edeiken
> ><F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 04:19:04 GMT,
> >> <j3kl30hq69c2jrc9t...@4ax.com> John Morris
> >> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
> >> >In <i5dl30ljtosdr8sfq...@4ax.com> in
> >> >alt.revisionism, on 24 Feb 2004 02:26:06 GMT, Dedicated to Yale
> >> >F. Edeiken <F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote:
> >> >> The point is not whether Stern is a reporter or not- the
> >> >> point is McVay lied about being arrested as a car thief!!
> >> >You haven't shown us anything that McVay was arrested as a car
> >> >thief.
> >> Why did you delete what was posted? What else was McVay arrested
> >> or apprehended for- jay walking?
> >According to article you posted, he was fifteen years old and ran
> >away from home.
> And he stole a car!!
He took his dad's car without permission. Technically, that's
stealing.
> >Do you think that might be a possibility?
> Youths don't get arrested and sent to jail for running away from
> home BUT they do get arrested and go to jail for car theft which is
> why your hero was arrested and went to jail! LIVE WITH IT!
He didn't get sent to jail. It sounds like he spent the day in the
police station while waiting for his dad to come fetch him.
Now, were you going to prove that McVay was arrested as a car thief,
or are you just going to keep repeating yourself?
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Joebruno
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 19:04:47 -0700,
> <catamont-DDCCB3...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <748l30pa49l5dmrjr...@4ax.com>,
> > Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken <F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote:
> >
> >> "Ken McVay, OBC" <spam...@nizkor.org> did write:
> >>
> >> >It seems Bill Grosvenor is still afraid to publish under his own
> >> >name. That's because he has no evidence that I have ever been
> >> >arrested, let alone convicted, of any crime,
> >>
> >> Is that so? Did this Jewish reporter lie when he reported this?
> >>
> >> http://www.ajc.org/InTheMedia/Publications.asp?did=135&pid=21
> >> (Link active February 11, 2004. Archived locally as JailbirdMcVay)
> >> Also: http://www.ajc.org/InTheMedia/PublicationsPrint.asp?did=135
> >> (Link active February 23, 2004. Archived locally as JailbirdMcVay2)
> >>
> >> The American Jewish Committee
> >>
> >> "Hate and the Internet
> >> by Kenneth S. Stern
>
> Why did you delete this and throw out your red herring?
>
> ("Hate and the Internet by Kenneth S. Stern)
> "My whole agenda is to try and remove their market, as it were. They have an
> agenda to sell. If, by demonstrating that they are lying about a specific issue,
> done them some harm." ? Ken McVay, Project Nizkor In 1956 Ken McVay stole his
> father?s car and ran away from home. Apprehended, he spent his 16th birthday in
> a Bellingham, Washington, jail.... <END>
>
> Oooops looks like you have been caught lying again McVay! The "American Jewish
> Committee" reported: "Ken McVay, Project Nizkor In 1956 Ken McVay stole his
> a Bellingham, Washington, jail" YET you stated above: "he has no evidence that I
> have ever been arrested, let alone convicted, of any crime"!
>
> Isn't being "Apprehended" the same thing as being "arrested"? YOU DO HAVE A
> POLICE RECORD TOO! Care to deny it Jail Bird McVay? Here's laughing at you!!
>
> >I LOVE it.
> >
> >HINT TO IDIOT: Kenneth Stern is not a "reporter.
>
> So I erred in what I called him but the fact remains and which you wish to dodge
> is McVay was caught in a lie when he stated: "It seems Bill Grosvenor is still
> afraid to publish under his own name. That's because he has no evidence that I
> have ever been arrested, let alone convicted, of any crime..." YET
> Kenneth S, Stern "reported": "Ken McVay, Project Nizkor In 1956 Ken McVay stole
> in a Bellingham, Washington, jail.."
>
>
Where is the record of his being tried and convicted of car theft? He
could have been "apprehended" and held for his parents as a runaway
minor.
If he was convicted of auto theft, he would have been sent to prison
or a reformatory for juveniles. Your article does not give full
details. They don't keep convicted car thieves in a local jail.
Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken
br...@indystart.com (Joebruno) wrote:
>He could have been "apprehended" and held for his parents as a runaway
>minor.
He was arrested for car theft!
>If he was convicted of auto theft, he would have been sent to prison
>or a reformatory for juveniles.
Not if his parents didn't press charges!
>Your article does not give full details.
I posted all Kenneth Stern wrote regarding the matter!
>They don't keep convicted car thieves in a local jail.
Where did I say McVay was ever convicted? McVay was arrested for car theft and
jailed and his parents evidently didn't press charges hence no trial and no
conviction but McVay was processed in the system never the less and some
precinct has him in their files!
ENCORE
~~Famous Last Words from Jail Bird Ken McVay~~
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=c1dhp...@enews4.newsguy.com&lr=&hl=en
(Archived locally as: McVayCarThief_1 AND McVayCarThief_2)
From: "Ken McVay, OBC" <spam...@nizkor.org>
Newsgroups: edm.general,edm.politics,ab.general,can.taxes
Subject: Re: Bracegirdles Both Deserve Jail,Also Auditors-Crown Appeals
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 10:46:13 -0800
Organization: The Nizkor Project http://www.nizkor.org
"Ken McVay, OBC" <spam...@nizkor.org> did write:
>It seems Bill Grosvenor is still afraid to publish under his own name.
>That's because he has no evidence that I have ever been arrested, let alone
>convicted, of any crime,
Is that so? Did this Jewish web site lie when it reported this?
http://www.ajc.org/InTheMedia/Publications.asp?did=135&pid=21
(Link active February 11, 2004. Archived locally as JailbirdMcVay)
Also: http://www.ajc.org/InTheMedia/PublicationsPrint.asp?did=135
(Link active February 23, 2004. Archived locally as JailbirdMcVay2)
The American Jewish Committee
"Hate and the Internet by Kenneth S. Stern
On-Line Approaches
"My whole agenda is to try and remove their market, as it were. They have an
agenda to sell. If, by demonstrating that they are lying about a specific issue,
I can remove a few hundred people from their potential market place, then I’ve
done them some harm." – Ken McVay, Project Nizkor In 1956 Ken McVay stole his
father’s car and ran away from home. Apprehended, he spent his 16th birthday in
a Bellingham, Washington, jail.... <END>
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Oooops looks like you have been caught lying again McVay! The "American Jewish
Committee" reported: "Ken McVay, Project Nizkor In 1956 Ken McVay stole his
father’s car and ran away from home. Apprehended, he spent his 16th birthday in
a Bellingham, Washington, jail" YET you stated above: "he has no evidence that I
have ever been arrested, let alone convicted, of any crime"!
Isn't being "Apprehended" the same thing as being "arrested"?
WordNet 2.0 Vocabulary Helper: apprehended
The verb apprehend has 3 senses (first 2 from tagged texts)
1. (2) get the picture, comprehend, savvy, dig, grasp, compass, apprehend -- get
the meaning of something; ``Do you comprehend the meaning of this letter?''
2. (1) collar, nail, apprehend, arrest, pick up, nab, cop -- (take into custody;
``the police nabbed the suspected criminals'' )
3. apprehend, quail at -- (anticipate with dread or anxiety)
-----
Which sense of "apprehended" applies to you Ken McVay? ANSWER: "collar, nail,
apprehend, arrest, pick up, nab, cop -- (take into custody; ``the police
nabbed the suspected criminals'' )
YOU NOW HAVE A POLICE RECORD TOO KEN! Care to deny it Jail Bird McVay?
Here's laughing at you!!
John Morris
Hash: SHA1
In <049o30h5641b1jhp8...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
on 25 Feb 2004 04:40:06 GMT, Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken
<F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote:
> On 24 Feb 2004 13:21:55 -0800,
> <bf3896a1.04022...@posting.google.com>
> br...@indystart.com (Joebruno) wrote:
> >He could have been "apprehended" and held for his parents as a
> >runaway minor.
> He was arrested for car theft!
> >If he was convicted of auto theft, he would have been sent to
> >prison or a reformatory for juveniles.
> Not if his parents didn't press charges!
> >Your article does not give full details.
> I posted all Kenneth Stern wrote regarding the matter!
> >They don't keep convicted car thieves in a local jail.
> Where did I say McVay was ever convicted? McVay was arrested for
> car theft and jailed and his parents evidently didn't press charges
> hence no trial and no conviction but McVay was processed in the
> system never the less and some precinct has him in their files!
Okay, just so long as you know how lame your claim actually is.
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
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>In <049o30h5641b1jhp8...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
>on 25 Feb 2004 04:40:06 GMT, Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken
><F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote:
>
>> On 24 Feb 2004 13:21:55 -0800,
>> <bf3896a1.04022...@posting.google.com>
>> br...@indystart.com (Joebruno) wrote:
>
>> >He could have been "apprehended" and held for his parents as a
>> >runaway minor.
>
>> He was arrested for car theft!
>
>> >If he was convicted of auto theft, he would have been sent to
>> >prison or a reformatory for juveniles.
>
>> Not if his parents didn't press charges!
>
>> >Your article does not give full details.
>
>> I posted all Kenneth Stern wrote regarding the matter!
>
>> >They don't keep convicted car thieves in a local jail.
>
>> Where did I say McVay was ever convicted? McVay was arrested for
>> car theft and jailed and his parents evidently didn't press charges
>> hence no trial and no conviction but McVay was processed in the
>> system never the less and some precinct has him in their files!
>
>Okay, just so long as you know how lame your claim actually is.
Hey you stooges are the ones who are in denial about your hero being arrested as
a car thief! I never claimed the Jail Bird was convicted BUT he did steal a car
and he was arrested and he was in jail!! I also don't think the United States
Marine Corps will accept applicants with police records which would imply McVay
lied on his application. Even though McVay wasn't convicted because his father
obviously didn't press charges it is still a fact McVay was arrested and jailed
for car theft which is no misdemeanor offense! I wonder what the USMC would do
to McVay if they get wind he has a record and lied on his application? At most
he will get prosecuted and in the least he will lose all of those government
retirement perks!
I.E.
John Morris
Hash: SHA1
In <4aho301sbvbvbi97m...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
on 25 Feb 2004 06:53:00 GMT, Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken
<F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote:
Yawn. Prove he was arrested as a car thief.
(And by prove it I don't mean keep repeating yourself).
Do you remember what you said when you "proved" McVay was guilty of
tax evasion and the Canadian tax department just laughed at you? I
do. You said the Canadian government was part of a socialist
conspiracy.
But please keep making an ass of yourself. It's very entertaining.
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Ken Lewis
Doing a village idiot impression is the only thing that Bradbury does
with any degree of success.
Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken
Why don't you instead prove he was NOT arrested as a car thief!!
The American Jewish Committee
>(And by prove it I don't mean keep repeating yourself).
And by prove it I don't mean keep repeating yourself so now prove he was NOT
arrested as a car thief!!
>Do you remember what you said when you "proved" McVay was guilty of
>tax evasion and the Canadian tax department just laughed at you?
They did not laugh at me. Care to prove it?
McVay acknowledges receiving money and giving thanks and then recently he
changes his tune and denies ever receiving one cent from the San Antonio Area
Foundation Nizkor Fund. Just because the CCRA doesn't take action doesn't mean
McVay hasn't been caught lying about his funding scams!
I.E.
>I do. You said the Canadian government was part of a socialist conspiracy.
Haven't you claimed Canada is into socialism? They certainly seem to tolerate
the world's largest Jewish org abusing its tax exempt status to help fund
obvious communist fronts!
I.E.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=4186tvsr4d3oiodp2nibbuvuj91rakvimb%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: UPDATED! B'nai Brith Allies Itself With Communist David Lethbridge
Against Capitalism, and Christianity V2.0 R_1207
Message-ID: <4186tvsr4d3oiodp2...@4ax.com>
Date: 7 Dec 2003 12:48:39 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=p0afnvchj52pcuh6c0dk78f9bs7ngfetac%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Allies Itself With Communist David Lethbridge Against
America, Capitalism, and Christianity R_0928
Message-ID: <p0afnvchj52pcuh6c...@4ax.com>
Date: 29 Sep 2003 03:38:54 GMT
>But please keep making an ass of yourself. It's very entertaining.
I post facts and if you think that is making an ass of myself then you're the
ass!
You can't deny I have caught McVay lying through his teeth about his funding!
I.E. (from an archive above):
Ken Mcvay says this: "The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort
whatsoever within the United States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay
has ever received any money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor
Fund"---
No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio Area
Foundation... The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid me - or anyone
else, to my knowledge... -- The San Antonio Area Foundation maintains an
endowment fund for any organization they support... That endowment fund,
however, has absolutely nothing to do with the Nizkor Project, nor has the
Nizkor Project ever benefited from such a fund."
YET Ken McVay has made the following available via USENET or his own web site
and notice how what follows contradicts greatly with the McVay Brays above!!
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803
(Link November 20, 2003 and no disclaimers are made!! Archived locally as:
11-20-2003SAAF2NIZKOR)
Shofar FTP Archive File: people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803
San Antonio Express-News
August 3, 1996
Page 10B
"Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten"
By Thomas Edwards
Express-News Staff Writer
"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a
solemn promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to
the Internet so that people will never forget the atrocities of
Nazi Germany.
Now his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from
the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor
Project, an international computer web site directed by the 55-
year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada... <END>
<start/quote>
From: Ken McVay OBC (kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca)
Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
In the United States, checks should be made payable to:
"SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"
and should be mailed to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial
improvements in service.
<end/quote>
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=50n608%24...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca&lr=&hl=en
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
Date: 1996/09/05
Message-ID: <50n608$9...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
x-network: http://www.nizkor.org/
organization: The Nizkor Project
(Archived locally as: Thanks2SAAF)
You claimed at the top of this post: "The San Antonio Area Foundation has
never paid me, or Nizkor, and neither myself nor Nizkor has any connection
with the San Antonio Area Foundation" but your post above contradicts your
claim with your very own words of: "SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund..
The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial improvements
in service."
If you never received any money from the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor
Fund then why did you give thanks?
More of Ken McVay plainly telling one and all that the San Antonio Area
Foundation is his American financing source:
<start/quote>
In article <31c2fa3a...@news.annap.infi.net>,
h...@annap.infi.net (Horst Kleinsorg) wrote, in response to my
suggestion that he actually do some research:
>First tell us who is financing your Nizkor, then we perhaps can
>talk.
Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Kleinsorg. I am financed
by thousands of "just plain folks" who wish to support my
work. In Canada, they make their cheques payable to...
[...]
In the United States, they make their cheques payable to:
SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
and mail them to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
Once again, Mr. Kleinsorg, thank you for asking. I trust this
open, public response will satisfy your query.
By the way, Mr. Kleinsorg... now that I have responded openly
and honestly to your question, perhaps you can tell us what
difference it makes who finances my work... you are still
slandering Germans, and the German military, and I fail to see
how my financing changes that.
The Nizkor Project (Canada) - An Electronic Holocaust Educational Resource
[Ftp] http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?
[Europe] ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/
http://www.almanac.bc.ca/ (Under construction - permanently!)......unlearn
<end/quote>
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=4pvbkg%24...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca&lr=&hl=en
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Nizkor Project financing and Kleinsorg's slandering Germans
Date: 1996/06/15
Message-ID: <4pvbkg$a...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
(Archived locally as: SAAFfinances)
<start/quote>
NIZKOR FUNDING:
CANADA & THE UNITED STATES
CANADA
[...]
Canadian income tax receipts will be issued.
THE UNITED STATES
In the United States, donations for the project's efforts should be
made payable to:
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
and should be mailed to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
American donors may deduct contributions as provided in section 170 of
the Internal Revenue Code. Bequests, legacies, devises, transfers, or
gifts are deductible for federal, estate, and gift tax purposes if
they meet the applicable provisions of Code sections 2055, 2106 and
2522.
We very much appreciate your donations, which assist in the
development and enhancement of The Nizkor Project website. Thank You.
--
Jamie McCarthy http://www.absence.prismatix.com/jamie/
ja...@voyager.net Co-Webmaster of http://www.nizkor.org/
<end/quote>
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=jamie-03129...@clmx43.dial.voyager.net&lr=&hl=en
From: ja...@voyager.net (Jamie McCarthy)
Subject: Re: the new, revised Nizkor
Date: 1996/12/03
Message-ID: <jamie-03129...@clmx43.dial.voyager.net>
references: <3298694d...@news.gte.net>
organization: Voyager Information Networks, Inc.
newsgroups: alt.revisionism
(Archived locally as: McCarthyNIZKOR)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Looks like your hero McVay is a pathological liar and an obvious tax dodger!
Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken
Ken Lewis <kml...@nospam.shawwww.ca> wrote:
>Doing a village idiot impression is the only thing that Bradbury does
>with any degree of success.
Engaging in personal atatcks is all you have and I am not the only person who
has noticed it!
An impartial lurker evaluates Ken Lewis' character:
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In can.general Ken Lewis <kml...@nospam.shaww.ca> wrote:
> You didn't have an attorney at that time, shit for brains. Stay
> stupid, eh?
It always amazes me how you people can't make a simple point without exuding
hostility.
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Sender: Daniel Swan <ds...@memeticcandiru.com>
From: j4m4l_$1xp...@salmahayeksknockers.edu
Subject: Re: HASIDIC GROUP CHARGED WITH $60 MILLION FRAUD (And Other Issuing of
Bogus Tax Receipts by Nizkor/B'nai Brith) S_0210
Message-ID: <O1EWb.60208$7Q1.42340@clgrps12>
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 05:19:42 GMT
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In can.general Ken Lewis <kml...@nospam.shaww.ca> wrote:
> Oh, no. You still misunderstand. They were points of fact as well.
You are petty and malicious.
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Sender: Daniel Swan <ds...@memeticcandiru.com>
Subject: Re: HASIDIC GROUP CHARGED WITH $60 MILLION FRAUD (And Other Issuing of
Bogus Tax Receipts by Nizkor/B'nai Brith) S_0210
Message-ID: <kQEWb.37761$964.37618@edtnps84>
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 06:13:36 GMT
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You Ken Lewis reply to above (and prove the lurker's point) with:
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On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 06:13:36 GMT,
j4m4l_$1xp...@salmahayeksknockers.edu wrote:
>In can.general Ken Lewis <kml...@nospam.shaww.ca> wrote:
>> Oh, no. You still misunderstand. They were points of fact as well.
>You are petty and malicious.
No. No. You STILL don't understand. Bradbury is a brian-dead,
malicious piece of racist gutter trash who continually posts lies and
falsehoods about people he doesn't like and who has gone out of his
way to try and destroy several people's lives. He is petty a
malicious. I am just putting forth the points of fact. He indeed has
shit for brains and he will indeed stay stupid.
What part of this are you having a hard time understanding?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Ken Lewis <kml...@nospam.shaww.ca>
Subject: Re: HASIDIC GROUP CHARGED WITH $60 MILLION FRAUD (And Other Issuing of
Bogus Tax Receipts by Nizkor/B'nai Brith) S_0210
Message-ID: <j38m209sho1qomm3u...@4ax.com>
References: <kQEWb.37761$964.37618@edtnps84>
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 06:46:09 GMT
Tavish
John Morris
Hash: SHA1
In <c1mo30hr1j7dar66k...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
on 25 Feb 2004 08:09:15 GMT, Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken
<F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote:
> Why don't you instead prove he was NOT arrested as a car thief!!
Your claim; your burden of proof.
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
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>In <c1mo30hr1j7dar66k...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
>on 25 Feb 2004 08:09:15 GMT, Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken
><F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote:
>
>> Why don't you instead prove he was NOT arrested as a car thief!!
>
>Your claim; your burden of proof.
~~Famous Last Words from Jail Bird Ken McVay~~
The American Jewish Committee
John Morris
Hash: SHA1
In <bmro305qdtp8b0sum...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
on 25 Feb 2004 09:43:01 GMT, Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken
<F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote the same as before.
You know, Scott, this repeating the same silly allegations as if
repetition makes them true is starting to look a little Obsessive.
It's almost as if some Compulsion prevents you from stopping. Have
you given any thought as to whether this might be a personality
Disorder?
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Joebruno
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> In <049o30h5641b1jhp8...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
> on 25 Feb 2004 04:40:06 GMT, Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken
> <F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote:
>
> > On 24 Feb 2004 13:21:55 -0800,
> > <bf3896a1.04022...@posting.google.com>
> > br...@indystart.com (Joebruno) wrote:
>
> > >He could have been "apprehended" and held for his parents as a
> > >runaway minor.
>
> > He was arrested for car theft!
PROOF?????????????????????????????????
>
> > >If he was convicted of auto theft, he would have been sent to
> > >prison or a reformatory for juveniles.
>
> > Not if his parents didn't press charges!
>
> > >Your article does not give full details.
>
> > I posted all Kenneth Stern wrote regarding the matter!
That is not evidence.
>
> > >They don't keep convicted car thieves in a local jail.
>
> > Where did I say McVay was ever convicted? McVay was arrested for
> > car theft and jailed and his parents evidently didn't press charges
> > hence no trial and no conviction but McVay was processed in the
> > system never the less and some precinct has him in their files!
>
> Okay, just so long as you know how lame your claim actually is.
Notice Fatboy's standard of proof- an assumption without factual basis.
ROTFL!!!
>
>
>
Gord McFee
Ken Lewis <kml...@nospam.shawwww.ca> wrote:
Believe me, it's not an impression.
--
Gord McFee
I'll write no line before its time
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