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P. Flavin

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May 9, 2003, 1:28:45 AM5/9/03

Loft 3D, the French Blaxxun VRML world for
------- their TV show comparable to our
reality TV shows Survivor, Big Brother, etc.
is rediscoverd:

Alpine Dragon wrote:
>
> I was searching for VRML related material,
> I came across this site which was of interest
> to me as it is probably one of the most detailed
> environments created in VRML that I've seen so far.
>
> http://www.visites-3d.com/loft-3d/chat3/
>
> ...
>
> I'm particularly interested in creating large/ infinite
> worlds with a high level of detail and that can be
> added to over time.
>
> Thanks
>

Yes, that's been discussed before ...

| Subject: Re: vrml commercial usage - what do you think?
|
| Newsgroups: comp.lang.vrml
| Date: 2002-08-12 10:44:36 PST
|
| Hi,
|
| Even I can't show here my buisness work made in VRML,
| here are some demo sites that show what VRML can do.
|
| You need BLAXXUN CONTACT 5.1+DirectX7 installed and
| it's best viewed with a 3D video card such as Geforce.
|
| All the places are multiuser.
|
http://www.visites-3d.com/multiuser home walktrhough
http://www.loft-3d.com french real tv "BIG BROTHER" loft
http://www.loft-3d.com/donjon french monuments
http://www.loft-3d.com/tragane fantastic midle age place
|
| all those worlds use a lot of new VRML (BLAXXUN's extensions)
| rendering features such :
|
http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=aj8s64%24t1v%241%40wanadoo.fr

| Subject: ANN : a new 3d chat will disappear soon :-(
|
|
| Hi,
|
| Yesterday, I announced here the birth of a new 3d chat here.
|
| http://www.loft-3d.com
|
| Today, I have to announce a sad new :
|
| the imminent death of the same 3d chat....
|
| Let me tell you the short history :
|
| One month ago, we had the idea :
|
| make a 3d chat, based on the TV show
|
| "LoftStory", the french "Big Brother"...
| -------------------------------------
|
| As I said yesterday, The goal was to take
| advantage of the great media impact of
| this show, to present vrml and the blaxxun technology....
|
| We didn't think at this time that our project
| can harm to the TV show or the TV channel.
| On the contrary, we thought that it can be
| a good promotion tool...
|
| But, 2 or 3 weeks before the opening,
| we heard that the TV channel M6 had
| the same project, based on the SCOL
| technology by Cryo Networks :-(
|
|
| At this time, our project became in
| competition with the official project,
|
| which is a paying 3d chat !
|
| So the french TV channel M6 ask us today
| to remove our work...
|
http://groups.google.com/groups?th=4ccf96fce62ac581&seekm=3cd5059c%40news.mhogaming.com#link1

Ah, what tools to use ...

And for some of us the more interesting question
is how to make more ___ interesting interactions ___
rather than just stuffing more stuff into the scene,

Java is the answer for that !

Java let's you do things like
Chess Players you can control that can move
objects, and finger spelling animation of
Web3d.org's VRML based H-Anim avatars, which
you can do with Java.

Many of the complex scenes are created with
the high end and high priced 3d Studio Max
package that costs more than $1,000.

Large 3d VRML Worlds: Military Combat Simulation ( Dis-Java-VRML )
------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.web3d.org/WorkingGroups/vrtp/dis-java-vrml/examples.html
http://web.nps.navy.mil/~brutzman/vrtp/dis-java-vrml/SoftwareReference.html

The above uses VRML EAI / Java and requires Cosmo.

The old style VRML plug-ins and Microsoft's Internet Explorer
have "compatibily" and "security" problems ( or "inconsistencies" )
which is why some people, research groups, educational instutions,
and professionals use: Java

Human Animation with VRML & Java3d, VRML & Java and without Java3d
------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/H-Anim_Avatars.html
http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/vrml_loaders_working.html

-- Paul, Java Developer & Web Animator.
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Imaging the Imagined: Modeling with Math & a Keyboard

Cecile Muller

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May 9, 2003, 11:09:40 AM5/9/03

> Java is the answer for that !

Ah yes ? Then make the loft using your loader,
i'm curious.

> Many of the complex scenes are created with
> the high end and high priced 3d Studio Max
> package that costs more than $1,000.

One program gathering many tools vs combining several
free ones for an almost-the-same/inferior result
for doing the same task, that may explain why.
I mean: 3dsmax isn't made just for vrml, or even just
realtime graphics.

Plus, if we want to bring pro designers from the outside to
make vrml or x3d (people that don't obviously actually *know* vrml),
we can't tell them to use notepad to create the scenes
(ok i exagerate, there are intermediary tools too, but you
see what i mean).

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