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Joe Bloue

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Aug 7, 2003, 4:03:48 PM8/7/03
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What's up with everyone here labeling each other as 'kooks'? Doesn't anyone
actually talk about aliens and UFOs here?


Harlow

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Aug 7, 2003, 4:25:02 PM8/7/03
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"Joe Bloue" <jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote in message news:EgyYa.2316$vA7.136...@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...

> What's up with everyone here labeling each other as 'kooks'? Doesn't anyone
> actually talk about aliens and UFOs here?

There are no aliens you fucking kook.

Mr. 4X

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Aug 7, 2003, 4:26:59 PM8/7/03
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"Joe Bloue" <jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote:

> What's up with everyone here labeling each other as 'kooks'? Doesn't
> anyone actually talk about aliens and UFOs here?
>
>
>

Kooks are the people who are obsessed with all kinds of really crazy (often
disproven and usually incoherent) ideas.

Wholefarter - one of them - likes to post stuff he got from various
webs[h]ites and crackpot literature, and there are a few other clearly
insane individuals too, but indeed there isn't too much 'on topic'
discussion. I think it's because the kooks scare away those who would
really discuss the 'UFO'/alien topic.

Joe Bloue

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Aug 7, 2003, 4:26:48 PM8/7/03
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"Harlow" <Campbel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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And you know there are no aliens because ________

(You get to fill in the blank)


Joe Bloue

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Aug 7, 2003, 4:50:41 PM8/7/03
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"Mr. 4X" <random...@vznna.invalid.com> wrote in message
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Maybe the kooks do scare away some of the folks who would like to have a
serious discussion, but then again I'll wager that many are put off by the
people here that add nothing but flames by calling others kooks.

Has there ever been a serious discussion here, or is it nothing but a
flame-fest?


che guevara

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Aug 7, 2003, 5:26:59 PM8/7/03
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In message <9811968d.03080...@posting.google.com>, Harlow
<Campbel...@hotmail.com> writes

humans are aliens

--
Dr P

hugh

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Aug 7, 2003, 5:50:45 PM8/7/03
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Your much to new to remember the discussion about Hale_Bopp
Where whole flapper claimed and then called us all govt agents
because we said it was a comet and not a space ship. After
years or trolls and Wholeflapper what do you expect? hugs
and kisses?

Wally Anglesea™

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Aug 7, 2003, 6:01:48 PM8/7/03
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You are right. Let's turn it around.

You know there are aliens because...................................

please cite credible resources.

--

http://users.bigpond.net.au/wanglese/Alien_recipes.html

"You can't fool me, it's turtles all the way down."

hugh

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Aug 7, 2003, 6:06:36 PM8/7/03
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See below for a great reason we all love Artie

Joe Bloue wrote:
> "Mr. 4X" <random...@vznna.invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns93D0E45...@195.228.240.20...
>
>>"Joe Bloue" <jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What's up with everyone here labeling each other as 'kooks'? Doesn't
>>>anyone actually talk about aliens and UFOs here?
>>>
>>>

I am sick and tired of being sick and tired of having
to tell the following trolls that they are no longer
welcome to these democratic newsgroups.

So if your name is on the list, please quit posting.

If you are in doubt or have any questions about why you are on the list,
please let me know and I will consult the General to see
if there was any mistakes or not.

Until then:

THIS NEWSGROUP IS NOW CLOSED to the following
debunkers, spOOks, KooKs and other trolls:

KooKs: Paty Patrick, Wilson, U. "Whore-House" Bob, Hughe/Sucke,
Davis, Useful Idiot Jeff George, Sludge, R. Quack, Whorelow
GooGooian, ASF-Wipe, Chen-Destabilizers, Wider "Anal" Sham-
D. Hertz, Lewis, Chump-Pest, Cap. Mak Shitley,
Wally Anglesea, Howell, Twit..

spOOks: Borsch, Echelon Spin-etti, Adams, Weller, O-BORG,
Wisenheimer, Cadwell

If there is any questions, please submit a form in triplicate
and prepare to wait 6-125 months!

Dismissed!


This is Artie in all his megalo mania. Sort of makes you wonder what
meds. he is on doesnt it?

Joe Bloue

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Aug 7, 2003, 6:32:46 PM8/7/03
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"hugh" <hu...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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He actually made such a claim? If that's the case, then I retract my
question. ;-)


Joe Bloue

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Aug 7, 2003, 6:34:15 PM8/7/03
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"Wally AngleseaT" <wang...@spbigpondammersareparasites.net.au> wrote in
message news:21j5jv8tjekg1iv5m...@4ax.com...

> On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 20:26:48 GMT, "Joe Bloue"
> <jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Harlow" <Campbel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:9811968d.03080...@posting.google.com...
> >> "Joe Bloue" <jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote in message
> >news:EgyYa.2316$vA7.136...@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
> >> > What's up with everyone here labeling each other as 'kooks'? Doesn't
> >anyone
> >> > actually talk about aliens and UFOs here?
> >>
> >> There are no aliens you fucking kook.
> >
> >And you know there are no aliens because ________
> >
> >(You get to fill in the blank)
> >
>
>
> You are right. Let's turn it around.
>
> You know there are aliens because...................................
>
> please cite credible resources.
>

I never claimed that I do know that there are aliens. I'm simply asking the
other poster to support his claim that there aren't any.


Harlow

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Aug 7, 2003, 6:35:36 PM8/7/03
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"Joe Bloue" <jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote in message news:isAYa.730$7M4...@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com...

> > Your much to new to remember the discussion about Hale_Bopp
> > Where whole flapper claimed and then called us all govt agents
> > because we said it was a comet and not a space ship. After
> > years or trolls and Wholeflapper what do you expect? hugs
> > and kisses?
>
> He actually made such a claim? If that's the case, then I retract my
> question. ;-)

Run away, faggot..........

Joe Bloue

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Aug 7, 2003, 6:36:08 PM8/7/03
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"hugh" <hu...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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Actually, it makes me think that he's a debunker. After all, if you want to
discredit some group, then what better way than to claim to be part of said
group, then act like an idiot?


hugh

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Aug 7, 2003, 6:42:15 PM8/7/03
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Yes Joe he did make that claim

hugh

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Aug 7, 2003, 6:43:14 PM8/7/03
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Now you got it! He is the debunkers debunker

hugh

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Aug 7, 2003, 6:44:03 PM8/7/03
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Harlow its nice to know you will never change LMAO

Michael Davis

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Aug 7, 2003, 6:39:49 PM8/7/03
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"Joe Bloue" wrote:

>
>What's up with everyone here labeling each other as 'kooks'? Doesn't anyone
>actually talk about aliens and UFOs here?

I don't see any aliens. I don't see anyone with any credible,
verifiable or believable evidence that there are any aliens or
that UFOs are anything extraordinary. I do however see a lot of
kooks in this NG. You do the math. HTH.

--
The Evil Michael Davis(tm)
http://mdavis19.tripod.com
http://skepticult.org Member #264-70198-536
Member #33 1/3 of The "I Have Been Killfiled By Tommy" Club

"There's a sucker born every minute" - David Hannum (often
erroneously attributed to P. T. Barnum)


Pete Charest

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Aug 7, 2003, 6:55:14 PM8/7/03
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On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 22:32:46 GMT, "Joe Bloue"
<jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote:

>He actually made such a claim? If that's the case, then I retract my
>question. ;-)

yeah...put it back in your pants, you willy-wanker.

Joe "Bloes" hahaha

Perfect name for you, kook.


Pete Charest
Insult Yourself, I'm Busy

Joe Bloue

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Aug 7, 2003, 6:58:04 PM8/7/03
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"Michael Davis" <mdav...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> "Joe Bloue" wrote:
>
> >
> >What's up with everyone here labeling each other as 'kooks'? Doesn't
anyone
> >actually talk about aliens and UFOs here?
>
> I don't see any aliens. I don't see anyone with any credible,
> verifiable or believable evidence that there are any aliens or
> that UFOs are anything extraordinary. I do however see a lot of
> kooks in this NG. You do the math. HTH.

While you don't see any aliens, there are many others who claim that they
have. Shall we simply dismiss these claims with a wave of the hand without
any consideration?

After all, early reports of the mountain gorilla were dismissed as myth or
flights of fancy before the hard evidence was presented. Maybe claims about
aliens are based on fact, or maybe they're not, but we shouldn't simply
dismiss them because you didn't find a dead ET in your yard this morning.


Pete Charest

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Aug 7, 2003, 7:10:18 PM8/7/03
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On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 22:58:04 GMT, "Joe Bloue"
<jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote:


>
>While you don't see any aliens, there are many others who claim that they
>have. Shall we simply dismiss these claims with a wave of the hand without
>any consideration?

Duhhh.....yeah. Are you really stupid enough to really not know the
answer to that question?


>After all, early reports of the mountain gorilla were dismissed as myth or
>flights of fancy before the hard evidence was presented.


As well they should have been. If that was indeed the case.

> Maybe claims about
>aliens are based on fact, or maybe they're not, but we shouldn't simply
>dismiss them

Of course we should. They are just stories, uttered by utter kooks,
like you.

> because you didn't find a dead ET in your yard this morning.

That, at least, would constitute a bit of unambiguous evidence.

Harlow

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Aug 7, 2003, 7:12:04 PM8/7/03
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"Joe Bloue" <jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote in message news:0QAYa.2386$6Y1.137...@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...

> While you don't see any aliens, there are many others who claim that they
> have. Shall we simply dismiss these claims with a wave of the hand without
> any consideration?
>
> After all, early reports of the mountain gorilla were dismissed as myth or
> flights of fancy before the hard evidence was presented. Maybe claims about

> aliens are based on fact, or maybe they're not, but we shouldn't simply
> dismiss them because you didn't find a dead ET in your yard this morning.

Listen up, Little Boy Bloue, I am making a report that you are a gay, homosexual,
dick-sucking faggot, who takes it up the tailpipe on a regular basis.

Now prove me wrong you fucking queer.


PS- How do you like me now?

Pete Charest

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Aug 7, 2003, 7:13:26 PM8/7/03
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On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 22:36:08 GMT, "Joe Bloue"
<jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote:

>> This is Artie in all his megalo mania. Sort of makes you wonder what
>> meds. he is on doesnt it?
>
>Actually, it makes me think that he's a debunker. After all, if you want to
>discredit some group, then what better way than to claim to be part of said
>group, then act like an idiot?

Believe it or not, Joe...that is the first intelligent thing you've
said since your arrival here.

Congratulations, you are smarter than DeosilBoy and David Patrick
JohnBoy.

Keep up the good work. There may be hope for you yet.

But I doubt it. You're still a kook, just one of the smarter kooks.

Michael Davis

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Aug 7, 2003, 7:42:10 PM8/7/03
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Joe Bloue wrote:
> "Michael Davis" <mdav...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:b2c12b6fd5bd75d1...@news.meganetnews.com...
>
>>"Joe Bloue" wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What's up with everyone here labeling each other as 'kooks'? Doesn't
>
> anyone
>
>>>actually talk about aliens and UFOs here?
>>
>>I don't see any aliens. I don't see anyone with any credible,
>>verifiable or believable evidence that there are any aliens or
>>that UFOs are anything extraordinary. I do however see a lot of
>>kooks in this NG. You do the math. HTH.
>
>
> While you don't see any aliens, there are many others who claim that they
> have. Shall we simply dismiss these claims with a wave of the hand without
> any consideration?

In the total absence of any hard evidence that any of these claims
are true, yes, that's exactly what we should do.

>
> After all, early reports of the mountain gorilla were dismissed as myth or
> flights of fancy before the hard evidence was presented.

Fine. So show me an alien then.

Claims about sea monsters, ghosts, bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster,
chupacabras, fairies, warewolves, dragons, unicorns, gods, demons,
etc., etc., are also dismissed as myths, and rightly so. Not
everything people choose to believe in is worthy of being taken
seriously if there is no supporting evidence.

The simple fact is, people choose to believe in a lot of things
that simply do not exist. You need to keep that fact in mind when
trying to decide what is credible and what isn't. If people can't
back up their beliefs with evidence, then there is no good reason
to believe their claims. This does not mean their claims *must*
absolutely be false, just that they aren't credible or believable.

For every mountain gorilla type claim that turns out to be true,
there are a lot of fairies and unicorns and sea monster type myths
that are never anything more than myth. The odds are strongly
against the alien believers being correct in their beliefs.

> Maybe claims about
> aliens are based on fact, or maybe they're not, but we shouldn't simply
> dismiss them because you didn't find a dead ET in your yard this morning.

Should we also not dismiss out of hand claims about flying purple
people eaters? Should any claim, no matter how outrageous and no
matter how totally devoid of supporting evidence, be given serious
consideration? Where do you draw the line? The simple fact is that
not all claims are worthy of being taken at face value. Get used
to it.

Gordon Tomlinson

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Aug 7, 2003, 8:02:57 PM8/7/03
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"Joe Bloue" <jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote in message
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> Joe you cannot disprove something that doesn't exist fact can be proven
with valid evidence like a dead alien would be a start or a space craft, but
how do you disprove something that isn't there, you could search eternally
like the bible bashers do but get nowhere because they don't exist


emjaybee

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Aug 7, 2003, 8:10:06 PM8/7/03
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"Harlow" <Campbel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Harlow. Although we probably concur on the belief that all this alien stuff
is complete nonsense, I don't understand your need to be abusive all the
time (cue abuse from Harlow!). OK, have a laugh at these believer guys, but
spewing obscene language ever single time you post just makes people notice
you even less. While your language may impress kids in the schoolyard, I
don't think it cuts it here. I've read a lot of your posts, and cutting out
all the abuse, you have said some valid and interesting stuff, but your
abuse takes the edge off it.

M.


Joe Bloue

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"hugh" <hu...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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My sympathies to Arthur's family. ;-)


Harlow

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"emjaybee" <nospam...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:bgupou$sk0te$1...@ID-80227.news.uni-berlin.de...

> Harlow. Although we probably concur on the belief that all this alien stuff
> is complete nonsense, I don't understand your need to be abusive all the
> time (cue abuse from Harlow!). OK, have a laugh at these believer guys, but
> spewing obscene language ever single time you post just makes people notice
> you even less. While your language may impress kids in the schoolyard, I
> don't think it cuts it here. I've read a lot of your posts, and cutting out
> all the abuse, you have said some valid and interesting stuff, but your
> abuse takes the edge off it.

I don't post here to amuse YOU........

Now fuck off, you Nazi queer.

emjaybee

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Aug 8, 2003, 8:35:05 AM8/8/03
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"Harlow" <Campbel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Hehe! Nice one Harlow :) Damn, I was so looking forward to you calling me
a faggot too! Ah well, guess that will happen in your next response....

By the way, nice picture of you on Lunatics R Us ( just in case a dumb fuck
like you didn't know the addy, here it is
http://thetruthhurts.care4free.net ). I always thought you were a fat fuck,
LOL! A tip; try not to be so bloody predictable in future if possible.

Now, go away cos mummy & daddy are calling you for your bath little boy.

M.

Harlow

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Aug 8, 2003, 8:48:03 AM8/8/03
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"emjaybee" <nospam...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:bh05f0$suld0$1...@ID-80227.news.uni-berlin.de...

> LOL! A tip; try not to be so bloody predictable in future if possible.

Request: Denied

Now go burn some jews.......

emjaybee

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Knud

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Aug 8, 2003, 10:32:54 AM8/8/03
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Campbel...@hotmail.com (Harlow) wrote in
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Here, unfortunately, is the only place people pay attention to him

Harlow

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"MingBeard" <ming...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:saQYa.2933$M6.1...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...

> Then i lost alot of weight, and the fat that was putting pressure
> on my asshole gland went away.

So, what's your excuse now?

"Mingbeard"?........Sounds gay to me....As in, "You got some Ming in your beard"

emjaybee

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Mr. 4X

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Aug 8, 2003, 4:02:33 PM8/8/03
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"Joe Bloue" <jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote:

>
> "Mr. 4X" <random...@vznna.invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns93D0E45...@195.228.240.20...
>> "Joe Bloue" <jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote:
>>
>> > What's up with everyone here labeling each other as 'kooks'?
>> > Doesn't anyone actually talk about aliens and UFOs here?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Kooks are the people who are obsessed with all kinds of really crazy
> (often
>> disproven and usually incoherent) ideas.
>>
>> Wholefarter - one of them - likes to post stuff he got from various
>> webs[h]ites and crackpot literature, and there are a few other
>> clearly insane individuals too, but indeed there isn't too much 'on
>> topic' discussion. I think it's because the kooks scare away those
>> who would really discuss the 'UFO'/alien topic.
>
> Maybe the kooks do scare away some of the folks who would like to have
> a serious discussion, but then again I'll wager that many are put off
> by the people here that add nothing but flames by calling others
> kooks.
>
> Has there ever been a serious discussion here, or is it nothing but a

It happens sometimes. Not often :(

> flame-fest?
>
>
>

Mr. 4X

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Aug 8, 2003, 4:05:27 PM8/8/03
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hugh <hu...@frontiernet.net> wrote:

>> flame-fest?
>>
>>
>
> Your much to new to remember the discussion about Hale_Bopp
> Where whole flapper claimed and then called us all govt agents

Hahahahahahaha.

I too didn't see that. The sickest 'performance' I remember from him was
when he used the name 'Pleiadian-Human Working Group' - guess for what...

Mr. 4X

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Aug 8, 2003, 4:07:44 PM8/8/03
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hugh <hu...@frontiernet.net> wrote:

> See below for a great reason we all love Artie
>

> Joe Bloue wrote:
>> "Mr. 4X" <random...@vznna.invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns93D0E45...@195.228.240.20...
>>
>>>"Joe Bloue" <jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>What's up with everyone here labeling each other as 'kooks'? Doesn't
>>>>anyone actually talk about aliens and UFOs here?
> >>>
> >>>
>

> I am sick and tired of being sick and tired of having
> to tell the following trolls that they are no longer
> welcome to these democratic newsgroups.
>
> So if your name is on the list, please quit posting.
>
> If you are in doubt or have any questions about why you are on the list,
> please let me know and I will consult the General to see
> if there was any mistakes or not.
>
> Until then:
>
> THIS NEWSGROUP IS NOW CLOSED to the following
> debunkers, spOOks, KooKs and other trolls:
>
> KooKs: Paty Patrick, Wilson, U. "Whore-House" Bob, Hughe/Sucke,
> Davis, Useful Idiot Jeff George, Sludge, R. Quack, Whorelow
> GooGooian, ASF-Wipe, Chen-Destabilizers, Wider "Anal" Sham-
> D. Hertz, Lewis, Chump-Pest, Cap. Mak Shitley,
> Wally Anglesea, Howell, Twit..
>
> spOOks: Borsch, Echelon Spin-etti, Adams, Weller, O-BORG,
> Wisenheimer, Cadwell
>
> If there is any questions, please submit a form in triplicate
> and prepare to wait 6-125 months!
>
> Dismissed!
>
>

> This is Artie in all his megalo mania. Sort of makes you wonder what

IIRC once he wanted to nuke debunkers with photon torpedoes (hint: Star
Trek...) and something he called 'bismuth-magnesium ultra bomb'.

Mr. 4X

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Aug 8, 2003, 4:10:03 PM8/8/03
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ahg...@yahoo.com (Ahgnis) wrote:

> Nice reasonable response Mr. 4X. Many of the Debunkers crowd are also
> so rabid in their responses that many reasonable people are scared to

I think that's limited to Pete Charest and Harlow Campbell.

> post. Sir Art probably scares off others with his far out posts, often
> having no bearing on Aliens or UFOs.
>
> Ahgnis


>
> "Mr. 4X" <random...@vznna.invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:<Xns93D0E45...@195.228.240.20>...
>> "Joe Bloue" <jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote:
>>
>> > What's up with everyone here labeling each other as 'kooks'?
>> > Doesn't anyone actually talk about aliens and UFOs here?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>

Mr. 4X

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Aug 8, 2003, 4:10:33 PM8/8/03
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Campbel...@hotmail.com (Harlow) wrote:

> "Joe Bloue" <jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote in message

> news:EgyYa.2316$vA7.136...@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...

>> What's up with everyone here labeling each other as 'kooks'? Doesn't
>> anyone actually talk about aliens and UFOs here?
>

> There are no aliens you fucking kook.

Any proof?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Pete Charest

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Aug 8, 2003, 5:31:40 PM8/8/03
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On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 20:10:03 +0000 (UTC), "Mr. 4X"
<random...@mlmewj.invalid.com> wrote:

>
>> Nice reasonable response Mr. 4X. Many of the Debunkers crowd are also
>> so rabid in their responses that many reasonable people are scared to
>
>I think that's limited to Pete Charest and Harlow Campbell.


Now I know why your name is so appropriate. You are 4 times more
profoundly stupid than any of the other saucerheads here.

hugh

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Aug 8, 2003, 8:32:35 PM8/8/03
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Artie claimed it even changed course and was coming back LOL
Damn he is funny

hugh

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Aug 8, 2003, 8:33:46 PM8/8/03
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Is that same Bismuth used in Pepto bismol???

Fritz Wuehler

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Aug 8, 2003, 9:30:59 PM8/8/03
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Wally, you are the biggest KOOK on this NG, and are also probably a psychopath, based on you inane responses.

Damian Kelfer

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"Michael Davis" <mdav...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> verifiable or believable evidence that there are any aliens or

Accepted. There's no proof of EBEs. Anywhere.

> that UFOs are anything extraordinary. I do however see a lot of

If UFOs are anything *but* extraordinary then the term is redundant.
But, the mere *fact* that there are yet-to-be-classified 'things' sighted
in the skies means they are anything *but* ordinary.


or-di-nar-y:

Commonly encountered; usual. Of no exceptional ability, degree, or
quality.


Don't pretend to know everything. You don't. Neither do I. Nor
does my more infamous brother.


Thankya kindly, have a nice day.

Satan's Evil Twin

--- Is God an atheist?


Damian Kelfer

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Aug 9, 2003, 12:00:18 AM8/9/03
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"Joe Bloue" <jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote in message
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>
> While you don't see any aliens, there are many others who claim that they
> have. Shall we simply dismiss these claims with a wave of the hand
without
> any consideration?

Yes. We should. We should dismiss it for pretty much the same reasons
that a judge would dismiss ill-gotten or circumstantial evidence. A couple
of
marks on your bollocks and a rather tall story doesn't make E.T. a reality.
Well, okay, let me rephrase that: A couple of marks on your bollocks and
a rather tall story doesn't mean E.T. took a roadtrip with its Gray buddies
to little old planet Earth. There's statistical favour in the existance of
E.T.,
but there's little statistical favour in it being here.

> After all, early reports of the mountain gorilla were dismissed as myth or
> flights of fancy before the hard evidence was presented. Maybe claims
about
> aliens are based on fact, or maybe they're not, but we shouldn't simply
> dismiss them because you didn't find a dead ET in your yard this morning.

Dead or alive, if they exist there would be enough evidence available to
prove it without a reasonable doubt. Think of all of the ways YOU could
gather evidence of YOUR abduction (if it ever happened). So, YOU'VE
been abducted by Mr Grayboy (okay, so I've just finished Dreamcatcher).
What do YOU do? Fear for YOUR life? Sure! How do YOU FEEL?
Well, YOU'RE fearing for YOUR life, aren't YOU? What else? What are
YOUR instincts telling YOU? What does life EXPERIENCE tell YOU? YOU
could be in that SITUATION for hours. Days. What would YOU do?
Would YOU become a braindead weasle the way every other abductee
before YOU apparently was? Or would YOUR insticts (those fundamental
insticts that have kept the human race ticking over for millennia) motivate
YOU in some way, shape or form? YOU'VE been abducted by the Grays,
for shit's sake - but who the Hell is gonna believe YOU? Nobody, 'cept
those with little or no faith in THEMSELVES. What are YOU gonna do
to prove that what's HAPPENING to YOU really HAPPENED? Or
are YOU just gonna sit back and take it, then go crying to mamma when
THEY let you go? If YOU were wrongly imprisoned for a crime YOU
didn't commit, would YOU just quietly serve YOUR time. Or would
YOU get off YOUR arse and do SOMETHING about it?

To date, every abductee in the word has come away from their 'experience'
with little more than a story to tell. There's a pattern forming there.
Can
you spot it? The day someone walks away from an abduction event with
a little genuine forensic evidence will be the day I voluntarily perform
auto-castration with a milk bottle.


I like chips.

Satan's Evil Twin


Larry Huntley

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Aug 9, 2003, 3:39:56 AM8/9/03
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On 07 Aug 2003, Joe Bloue wrote in alt.alien.research:
>
> Actually, it makes me think that he's a debunker. After all, if you
> want to discredit some group, then what better way than to claim to be
> part of said group, then act like an idiot?

It's an ACT?! Damn; he's GOOD...

- L
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Michael Davis

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Aug 9, 2003, 9:03:56 AM8/9/03
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Damian Kelfer wrote:
> "Michael Davis" <mdav...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:b2c12b6fd5bd75d1...@news.meganetnews.com...
>
>
>>verifiable or believable evidence that there are any aliens or
>
>
> Accepted. There's no proof of EBEs. Anywhere.
>
>
>>that UFOs are anything extraordinary. I do however see a lot of
>
>
> If UFOs are anything *but* extraordinary then the term is redundant.
> But, the mere *fact* that there are yet-to-be-classified 'things' sighted
> in the skies means they are anything *but* ordinary.

Hold the phone. UFO stands for *Unidentified* Flying Object. It
doesn't stand for Extraordinary Flying Object or
Yet-to-be-Classified Flying Object. Basically, a UFO is just
something someone sees that they can't identify. That something
could be a quite ordinary object or phenomenon, but still outside
the experience of the witness. Claiming that you saw something you
couldn't identify is not an extraordinary claim. However, claiming
that the unidentified object in question must have been a flying
saucer from Zeta Reticuli, full of little grey aliens, out to core
cattle and anal probe people most assuredly is an extraordinary
claim and requires extraordinary evidence to back it up.

>
>
> or-di-nar-y:
>
> Commonly encountered; usual. Of no exceptional ability, degree, or
> quality.

Like Venus, the most common source of UFO reports. That's about as
ordinary as it gets, and yet people are still regularly fooled by
it. It even fooled Jimmy Carter, and he was a former naval officer
schooled in celestial navigation who really should have known better.

>
>
> Don't pretend to know everything. You don't.

I never claimed otherwise, but I do know what I am talking about here.

> Neither do I. Nor
> does my more infamous brother.

I have no idea who your brother is.

Twonky

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Aug 9, 2003, 3:21:29 PM8/9/03
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"Joe Bloue" <jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Wally AngleseaT" <wang...@spbigpondammersareparasites.net.au> wrote in
> message news:21j5jv8tjekg1iv5m...@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 20:26:48 GMT, "Joe Bloue"
> > <jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Harlow" <Campbel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >news:9811968d.03080...@posting.google.com...
> > >> "Joe Bloue" <jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote in message
> > >news:EgyYa.2316$vA7.136...@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...

> > >> > What's up with everyone here labeling each other as 'kooks'? Doesn't
> > >anyone
> > >> > actually talk about aliens and UFOs here?
> > >>
> > >> There are no aliens you fucking kook.
> > >
> > >And you know there are no aliens because ________
> > >
> > >(You get to fill in the blank)
> > >
> >
> >
> > You are right. Let's turn it around.
> >
> > You know there are aliens because...................................
> >
> > please cite credible resources.
> >
>
> I never claimed that I do know that there are aliens. I'm simply asking the
> other poster to support his claim that there aren't any.

Harlow's not a poster. He's the poster boy for all the evolved simians, gorillas
and baboons on this group. They responded to you. You and I are the only
reasonable ones in this thread concerning the eXistence of ETs.....

The evolved hoaxing simians never addressed the sequence in the Mexico City
tapes I bring up, because they can't trash it. It's just one of many sequences. A
credible source. But it looks like one is all I need. Just like the crop markings.

And for a crop marking it's any in a "tram line less" field of oil seed rape. When
the plants are in full bloom and at the snapping stage. They snap like celery if
bent at just a slight angle. Markings are found with the stalks bent an inch from
the ground. (As if they were steamed.) The yellow flower is stll intact, and the
plants pushed so hard to the ground, researchers have been quoted as saying;
"It looks as if tremendous pressure was used....!"

Try doing that with a piece of 'string, a plank & a wank...!'

Have you ever seen the evolved hoaxing baboons of Team Satan AKA the
Circle Jerksers do a crop clown show on The Discovery Channel...et al...in
any other type of field but tram lined wheat....? No...! You haven't...! And you
never ever will. Ask them to demo on a live web cast, in oil seed rape . They'll
spit in your face and tell you go to hell. Where they reside and will forever,
with their mentor...!

Go here http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/3517/index.html and watch Team Satan
morph in the Circle Jerkers....! Watch it. They may may hack your computer...!

(They changed their name for public relation purposes. Ordered by their elite
mainstream media moguls who would tout them as the be all to end all in the crop
markings, in global displays of crop clown shows.) But they still remain a
hypothetical.
Just like ETs.....! But ETs and their crafts are seen on mainstream and fringe media
a hell of a lot more than the Team Satan hoaxing baboons....! And more than their
Teams of Satan, imp lying simian minions. ETs have been in the mainstream & fringe
media a hell of a lot longer than the evolved hoaxing simians...!

And, the bonehead monkey men only do FLAT fields of tram lined wheat on their
3 monkey crop clown shows. Some markings appear in very hilly fields. Where the
rope of the hoaxing simians would hit the crest of the hill...!

I've 'divorced' myself from the species of evolved apes. I found I am a hybrid
in the offspring of Cain. After a female found him wandering in the 'wilderness.'
He settled with the Neandertals. ...' His offspring were the cause of the Neandertals
'disappearance...!' And modern 'civilized' man appeared. The only 'problem'
about being a hybrid is, one finds there is a Creator who orchestrated our present
state....! To suffer death...! The curse on the parents of Cain. And ALL who would
come from that seed. The seed of a murderer. Our species....!

Is it coincidence the Neandertal & Cro-Magnon met up in Northern Israel...?
(Israelis & Palestinians....?)

"No man is willing to know of his origin, lest he know the Almighty God, Hashem.
The God of Israel...! Author of Light, Creation & Life..."
(Twonky, Hybrid of Hashem Almighty 'HOHA')

The denying hybrids, remaining evolved, are such fucking gorillas....! And apes
can never know the one & only, Creator.....! The evolved have their God of the
Apes.....! King Kong most likely....! And Mighty Joe Youg, his begotten son....!

Christ Jesus...am I glad I found I'm a hybrid....! Actually the entire 'human'
species is a a species of hybrids. But (it looks like) I'm the only one with the
genes of the parents of Cain, dominant within. And not Neandertal, Cro-Magon,
Cro-Nean, simian, gorilla, nor baboon gene dominant like those remaining evolved
on the real planet of the apes...!

·¸ ¸·
¸·´·¸
·><·
The very......two dimensional....third in the order.......out of three dimensions
into the flat, visual two dimensions. And into the flat headed two dimensional
psyche, of the godless evolved simians, gorillas and baboons....

Earth...! The REAL planet of the apes. A planet of diversified, Apedom...!

Hey Evil Mike. From where'd you get your Evil....?! The same place I got my
Good. Fucking hypocrite....! Just admit where it all comes from....! Then you'll
be a thinking hybrid. Rather than a bonehead, remaining an evolved baboon....!

·>
Twonky.....

·>....Hybrid with XtremePrejudice & no mercy....<·

It's the YHVH Tzva'ot.......stupid!

kiddush Ha~Shem/Hashem...Almighty God...maker of Creation!
Many names....

chillul al-llah/Allah.....Supreme God......repeater of Creation!?!? One name.....

Will the real Almighty God, Creator, please 'stand' up? It's a no brainer....
really...

Reality bites.....for the evolved...!

WHEW

/ \
/.·.\RMAGEDDON......................+|-..................Godless hybrids......

bhratar suasti bhratar suastika ki salu chapi aniama ista dai tiuustur tikamo

YHWH

Harlow

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Aug 9, 2003, 3:50:29 PM8/9/03
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"Twonky" <two...@googol.god> wrote in message news:bh3hnk$v9p$1...@slb5.atl.mindspring.net...

> Harlow's not a poster. He's the poster boy for all the evolved simians, gorillas
> and baboons on this group. They responded to you. You and I are the only
> reasonable ones in this thread concerning the eXistence of ETs.....

I bet you lose him after THIS fucking meldown, Twonks......

> And for a crop marking it's any in a "tram line less" field of oil seed rape. When
> the plants are in full bloom and at the snapping stage. They snap like celery if
> bent at just a slight angle.

Have you ever seen Oil seed rape?

No?.... I didn't think so.

>Markings are found with the stalks bent an inch from
> the ground. (As if they were steamed.)

Have you seen this?....

No?....I didn't think so.

>The yellow flower is stll intact, and the
> plants pushed so hard to the ground, researchers have been quoted as saying;
> "It looks as if tremendous pressure was used....!"

Can you cite the source for this quote?

No?....I didn't think so.

> Have you ever seen the evolved hoaxing baboons of Team Satan AKA the
> Circle Jerksers do a crop clown show on The Discovery Channel...et al...in
> any other type of field but tram lined wheat....? No...! You haven't...! And you
> never ever will. Ask them to demo on a live web cast, in oil seed rape . They'll
> spit in your face and tell you go to hell.

Has this ever happened to you?

No?.....I didn't think so.

> Go here http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/3517/index.html and watch Team Satan
> morph in the Circle Jerkers....! Watch it. They may may hack your computer...!

Have they ever hacked YOUR computer?

YES ?!.......That was Charest, stupid.

> (They changed their name for public relation purposes. Ordered by their elite
> mainstream media moguls who would tout them as the be all to end all in the crop
> markings, in global displays of crop clown shows.) But they still remain a
> hypothetical.

Can you name these "elite mainstream media moguls"?

No?....I didn't think so.

> Just like ETs.....! But ETs and their crafts are seen on mainstream and fringe media
> a hell of a lot more than the Team Satan hoaxing baboons....! And more than their
> Teams of Satan, imp lying simian minions. ETs have been in the mainstream & fringe
> media a hell of a lot longer than the evolved hoaxing simians...!

Have you ever seen a UFO, Twonk?

No?....I didn't think so.

Mr. 4X

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Aug 9, 2003, 5:08:02 PM8/9/03
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hugh <hu...@frontiernet.net> wrote:

Yes, he's rather funny, not dangerous - cause he doesn't have 'too much'
followers (Boner, and IIRC that Kavik Crank was one)

Mr. 4X

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Aug 9, 2003, 5:11:26 PM8/9/03
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hugh <hu...@frontiernet.net> wrote:

Bismuth is a rare, toxic metal (not radioactive like uranium, so the whole
stuff makes even less sense than the photon torpedo - after all, the Star
Trek techno-babble 'explained' that that works with antimatter...)

Tim Kozusko

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Aug 9, 2003, 8:08:45 PM8/9/03
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Twonky <two...@googol.god> wrote in message
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>
>...You and I are the only

> reasonable ones in this thread concerning the eXistence of ETs.....

Already you're insulting the guy.

> And for a crop marking it's any in a "tram line less" field of oil seed
rape. >When
> the plants are in full bloom and at the snapping stage. They snap like
celery if
> bent at just a slight angle. Markings are found with the stalks bent an
inch >from
> the ground. (As if they were steamed.)

Or done at night when the humidity is much higher.


>The yellow flower is stll intact, and the
> plants pushed so hard to the ground, researchers

"researchers", who have what background? And where is this "pushed so hard
into the ground" shit documented?

>have been quoted as saying;
> "It looks as if tremendous pressure was used....!"

Define "tremendous pressure".

> And, the bonehead monkey men only do FLAT fields of tram lined wheat on
their
> 3 monkey crop clown shows. Some markings appear in very hilly fields.
Where the
> rope of the hoaxing simians would hit the crest of the hill...!

And just because YOU can't figure a way to get around that, no one else can
either, huh...


Tim Kozusko

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Aug 9, 2003, 8:11:37 PM8/9/03
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Joe Bloue <jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote in message
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> While you don't see any aliens, there are many others who claim that they
> have. Shall we simply dismiss these claims with a wave of the hand
without
> any consideration?

Works for me.

> After all, early reports of the mountain gorilla were dismissed as myth or
> flights of fancy before the hard evidence was presented. Maybe claims
about
> aliens are based on fact, or maybe they're not, but we shouldn't simply
> dismiss them because you didn't find a dead ET in your yard this morning.

Oh give me a break. What a stupid fucking analogy that is. A mountain
gorilla is just another kind of gorilla, dumbass. How can you attempt to
compare that with alien life forms and be taken seriously?
THINK

Tim Kozusko

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Aug 9, 2003, 8:16:09 PM8/9/03
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Harlow <Campbel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9811968d.03080...@posting.google.com...
> "Twonky" <two...@googol.god> wrote in message
news:bh3hnk$v9p$1...@slb5.atl.mindspring.net...

> Have they ever hacked YOUR computer?


>
> YES ?!.......That was Charest, stupid.

Pete got into Twonky's computer?! I bet he saw some scary shit there.


Pete Charest

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Aug 9, 2003, 9:00:59 PM8/9/03
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 00:16:09 GMT, "Tim Kozusko" <timk...@cfl.rr.com>
wrote:


I'm not really at liberty to disclose that kind of information, but if
by scary you mean 'deviant and disturbing lunatic ramblings with
sociopathic overtones', then that would be a fairly safe bet.

Tim Kozusko

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Aug 9, 2003, 9:04:14 PM8/9/03
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Pete Charest <Big...@SharpTeeth.com> wrote in message
news:os5bjvopiugcffm6i...@4ax.com...

> I'm not really at liberty to disclose that kind of information, but if
> by scary you mean 'deviant and disturbing lunatic ramblings with
> sociopathic overtones', then that would be a fairly safe bet.

I trust there's a file on Twonks somewhere now...


Terry Wilson

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Aug 10, 2003, 1:22:05 AM8/10/03
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> And for a crop marking it's any in a "tram line less" field of oil seed
rape. When
> the plants are in full bloom and at the snapping stage. They snap like
celery if
> bent at just a slight angle. Markings are found with the stalks bent an
inch from
> the ground. (As if they were steamed.) The yellow flower is stll intact,
and the
> plants pushed so hard to the ground, researchers have been quoted as
saying;
> "It looks as if tremendous pressure was used....!"

This is one of the biggest mistakes made. The idea that rape stems snap
"like celery" was started by Colin Andrews over a decade ago. It has been
repeated and repeated as if gospel, but it remains UNTRUE. Why don't people
try bending some rape stems themselves? It's an easy experiment to perform.
You will find flexibility, and you will be able to bend them at right
angles.


Jake

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Aug 10, 2003, 2:47:28 AM8/10/03
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Ok, aliens just might exist, but i know for sure there is an easy way of
making money on the internet that is actually free, simple, fast, easy,
safe, and has no catches. Make 500 to 700 dollars a week! You just have
see it. Here it is!

http://michaelvaldez1.plugusin4cash.com/

Happy money making!


Wally Anglesea™

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Aug 10, 2003, 4:42:05 AM8/10/03
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 03:30:59 +0200, Fritz Wuehler
<fr...@rodent.frell.eu.org> wrote:

>Wally, you are the biggest KOOK on this NG, and are also probably a psychopath, based on you inane responses.

he don't know me vewy well, do he?

BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!

--

http://users.bigpond.net.au/wanglese/Alien_recipes.html

"You can't fool me, it's turtles all the way down."

Harlow

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Aug 10, 2003, 6:21:57 AM8/10/03
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"Jake" <gval...@cox.net> wrote in message news:7UlZa.40876$Bp2.16484@fed1read07...

> Ok, aliens just might exist, but i know for sure there is an easy way of
> making money on the internet that is actually free, simple, fast, easy,
> safe, and has no catches. Make 500 to 700 dollars a week! You just have
> see it. Here it is!

Fuck that...I just saw a post where I can make $20,000 a week!

$500- 700 a week is peanuts.

Ugly Bob

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Aug 10, 2003, 8:31:46 PM8/10/03
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"Jake" <gval...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:7UlZa.40876$Bp2.16484@fed1read07...
> Ok, aliens just might exist, but i know for sure there is an easy way of
> making money on the internet that is actually free, simple, fast, easy,
> safe, and has no catches. Make 500 to 700 dollars a week! You just have
> see it. Here it is!
>
> http:// <snip> .com/
>
> Happy money making!

Another Cox ucker...

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Ugly Bob

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Aug 10, 2003, 8:37:27 PM8/10/03
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"Tim Kozusko" <timk...@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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Shhhhhhh, it's down at "The Company."


Tim Kozusko

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Aug 10, 2003, 8:51:42 PM8/10/03
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Ugly Bob <ugly_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Tim Kozusko" <timk...@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:iSgZa.23190$On2.1...@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
> >
> > I trust there's a file on Twonks somewhere now...
>
> Shhhhhhh, it's down at "The Company."

There's probably a plain, unmarked car parked across the road from Twonky's
trailer right now.


Ugly Bob

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Aug 10, 2003, 10:25:15 PM8/10/03
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"Tim Kozusko" <timk...@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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Shhhhhhh, that would be telling.


Twonky

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Aug 11, 2003, 8:00:52 AM8/11/03
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"Tim Kozusko" <timk...@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
news:h2gZa.22951$On2.1...@twister.tampabay.rr.com...

>
> Twonky <two...@googol.god> wrote in message
> news:bh3hnk$v9p$1...@slb5.atl.mindspring.net...
> >
> >...You and I are the only
> > reasonable ones in this thread concerning the eXistence of ETs.....
>
> Already you're insulting the guy.

Let him tell me that. Are you the 'spokesimian' for the group....?


>
> > And for a crop marking it's any in a "tram line less" field of oil seed
> > rape. When the plants are in full bloom and at the snapping stage.
> > They snap like celery if bent at just a slight angle. Markings are found
> > with the stalks bent an inch from the ground. (As if they were steamed.)
>
> Or done at night when the humidity is much higher.

Steaming humidity....!? That's hilarious....! You would have made a tiny bit
more sense if you said a portable 'steam iron...' You little evolved monkeys
are a fucking riot in your primitive denying....! Would you do me a favor,
Bonzo Tim...? Tell your fellow evolved simians to live demo the markings
in rape......!

Do you have a nickname for your monkey self, Tim....? I'll use the generic
'Bonzo" for all of you evolved simians if you don't have a simian nickname.....
My hybrid nickname is, HOHA...!

How about; "Timmy the Chimp Chump...." for yourself...?


>
>
> >The yellow flower is stll intact, and the
> > plants pushed so hard to the ground, researchers
>
> "researchers", who have what background?

The "ones" you despise....! Doctors in their 'field...!' And you...?


>
> And where is this "pushed so hard into the ground" shit documented?

Paul Vigay posted it to you a looong time ago. You ignored his post...!
There are data bases. And websites. I've seen them on thse things...! Get
the 'movie; "crOp Circles, Quest for the truth" <cropcirclesthemovie.com>

"Seek and you shall find....!"


>
> >have been quoted as saying; "It looks as if tremendous pressure
> >was used....!"
>
> Define "tremendous pressure".

More than a plank and a wank. More than a garden roller filled with water....!
Maybe lead. But....todays crop clown monkeys don't use the real construction
tools of the evolved gorilla team of the WesseX Skepdicks. Todays hoaxing
apes use the tools of the two evolved baboons, Dave Bower & Doug Chorley.
A piece of string, a plank and a wank....and a baseball cap sighting device. A
marvel of modern technology!

But the flowers, Tim. And the one inch bend. The stalks only are pressed firmly
to the ground. Can't do that with a plank & a wank, or a garden roller....filled with
lead...! "crush, snap, crackle and pop...."


>
> > And, the bonehead monkey men only do FLAT fields of tram lined wheat
> > on their 3 monkey crop clown shows. Some markings appear in very hilly
> > fields. Where the rope of the hoaxing simians would hit the crest of the hill...!
>
> And just because YOU can't figure a way to get around that, no one else can
> either, huh...

I don't dwell on it, no. I reasoned it out. If they want to show me how they do it.
Bring forth the 'Monkeys of Wheat' then, if you're so simian hoaxer ass kissy have
them bring their claimed prowess forward. Into the light. I notice you are the only
spokesimian so far, for your little evolved Bonzo friends..

Your evolved hypothetical, claiming simians in the fields, must prove themselves
to me in a live demo. Or the "3 Monkeys of Team Satan" and their imps of
apedom in the Teams of Satan are still null & void in their yelping claims......0...

Since I found I am a hybrid. I give you evolved ape rocket scientists no
consideration in, nor to, your claim of hypotheticals and illusions being, what
it's all about...!

Eat a banana or a dead rotting rat...! You have the brain and thinking of an
evolved simian, ape gene dominant, hybrid in denial.....! Ain't no meds for that
condition. Just the truth that (y)our species is a species, of hybrids. Born in the
interbreeding of Cain and his offspring with the Neandertals....

Where and what did the Neandertals disappear into...? Into us....! Our species...!
Modern 'civilized' mankind. Some of us. I mean look at you, Harlow, Charest &
the denying lying hoaxing apes...et al. Not civilized at all....!! The Adversaries of
the Advocates. Advocates for the Kingdom of Hashem....! And you evolved, for
the Kingdom of Satan....! (Wherever that is....!)

You Satanic apes, in the name of Satan, are holding things up for we hybrids of
God in the Christ's name. Get out of our fucking way....! Go back to your caves
and/or jungle...! Carve a figure on the wall....! I'll take the ones in the fields.
ALL
of the fields...<geddit...?> The ones made by Team Jesus, for the praise and glory
of our God.....! Hashem, Almighty....! Who gave us Satan and the Christ....!
Adversary & Advocate of Almighty God...! And both....+|&|-...walk upon the
earth....!

The message in the crop markings......

"There is a God, dear hybrids...."
(Twonky HOHA)

Yeoshua


Twonky

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"Terry Wilson" <terryj...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> > And for a crop marking it's any in a "tram line less" field of oil seed
> > rape. When> the plants are in full bloom and at the snapping stage.
> > They snap like celery if bent at just a slight angle. Markings are found
> > with the stalks bent an inch from the ground. (As if they were steamed.)
> > The yellow flower is stll intact, and the plants pushed so hard to the
> > ground, researchers have been quoted as saying;"It looks as if
> > tremendous pressure was used....!"

>
> This is one of the biggest mistakes made. The idea that rape stems snap
> "like celery" was started by Colin Andrews over a decade ago.

1987. First recorded marking in oil seed rape....! Stands up today....!

>
> It has been repeated and repeated as if gospel, but it remains UNTRUE.

Like the claims of the evolved hoaxing simians are repeated ad infinitum
as if gospel.....? But remain UNPROVEN.......!

So. You're saying those who claim 'snapping' are all a bunch of liars....?
And you're not....?

>
> Why don't people try bending some rape stems themselves?

It would be nice if the hoaxing simians demoed their prowess in all
types of grain in which markings appear..! Let them prove it themselves.
Those evolved monkeys claim it. Not me...! I have to prove nothing but
that we are a species of hybrids....!

>
> It's an easy experiment to perform.

It's not an eXperiment....! It's a dumbass request. It's been thrown around
for a long time...!
>
> You will find flexibility, and you will be able to bend them at right
> angles.

While in the field....? At the snapping stage...? They aslo bruise
very easily. No crushed flowers. Laid very flat. With less than
minimal damage! Do that with a plank...! I don't care if they fleX
or not. Just leave less than minimal damage, and the flowers...
untouched. Swirl it, and lay the stalks flat and hard to the ground.
And oh ya. Bent an inch from the ground....! Go ahead....do it.

Why haven't the hoaxing simians done markings in a rape field....?
Or oats, corn, barley, rice et al. In tramline less fields too, on their
simian crop clown shows....? Why only tram lined wheat fields....?
Very selective aren't they...? The hoaxing simians have no right to
have reasonable people (hybrids) just assume they construct
markings in all other types of grains....! I am not an assuming ass...!

Just do it, in a live demos for me. Stop claiming the markings into
eXistence...! Damn....the evolved are too much monkey for me....!
Can't handle all of their obnoXious, constant, yelping....!

Terry Wilson

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I have done it. You haven't. It can be done and if you think it can't, you're deluding yourself. As for public demonstrations, there's no way anyone is going to bother trying to show you something you could verify for yourself in two minutes. Go flatten some and see with your own eyes.

Tim Kozusko

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Twonky <two...@googol.god HOHA> wrote in message
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>
> "Tim Kozusko" <timk...@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:h2gZa.22951$On2.1...@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
> >
> > Twonky <two...@googol.god> wrote in message
> > news:bh3hnk$v9p$1...@slb5.atl.mindspring.net...
> > >
> > >...You and I are the only
> > > reasonable ones in this thread concerning the eXistence of ETs.....
> >
> > Already you're insulting the guy.
>
> Let him tell me that. Are you the 'spokesimian' for the group....?

heh, "spokesimian", nice one.

> > Or done at night when the humidity is much higher.
>
> Steaming humidity....!? That's hilarious....!

Non one's mentioned "steam" but you.


> The "ones" you despise....! Doctors in their 'field...!' And you...?
> >
> > And where is this "pushed so hard into the ground" shit documented?
>
> Paul Vigay posted it to you a looong time ago. You ignored his post...!
> There are data bases. And websites. I've seen them on thse things...! Get
> the 'movie; "crOp Circles, Quest for the truth" <cropcirclesthemovie.com>

um, OK. I'll take that as a no. I've never seen anything that resembled
anything other than plants knocked over. I've looked at all the crap urls
you've posted and seen nothing but plants knocked over.

> But the flowers, Tim. And the one inch bend. The stalks only are pressed
firmly
> to the ground. Can't do that with a plank & a wank, or a garden
roller....filled with
> lead...! "crush, snap, crackle and pop...."

Again, this is scientifically documented nowhere.

snip a fine kook-rant.


Twonky

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"Tim Kozusko" <timk...@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> Twonky <two...@googol.god HOHA> wrote in message
> news:bh80hk$vrl$1...@slb6.atl.mindspring.net...
> >
> > "Tim Kozusko" <timk...@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:h2gZa.22951$On2.1...@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
> > >
> > > Twonky <two...@googol.god> wrote in message
> > > news:bh3hnk$v9p$1...@slb5.atl.mindspring.net...
> > > >
> > > >...You and I are the only
> > > > reasonable ones in this thread concerning the eXistence of ETs.....
> > >
> > > Already you're insulting the guy.
> >
> > Let him tell me that. Are you the 'spokesimian' for the group....?
>
> heh, "spokesimian", nice one.

Ya. Thanks. You earned it....


>
> > > Or done at night when the humidity is much higher.
> >
> > Steaming humidity....!? That's hilarious....!
>
> Non one's mentioned "steam" but you.

And the researchers....

If they looked as if they were steamed. Then they must
have been brittle to the point of breaking very easily....!
Do you have a problem with that....! That oil seed rape
actually snaps, at the snapping stage.....?

Are you going to ask me to prove they snap....? I think it's
common knowledge. It's never been demoed at that volitile
stage on simian crop clown shows. Only tram lined wheat
fields. You are an assuming simian for all other, never
publically construted on a crop clown monkey show, markings.
That's one hell of a hypothetical you believe.....

Considering the unproven fields that were never shown on a crop
clown monkey show for public consumption, as is tram lined wheat.
And if one doesn't just assume the hypothetical carries over to cover
different textures and types of grains, then one is justified in reasoning
another source other than apes.....


>
>
> > The "ones" you despise....! Doctors in their 'field...!' And you...?
> > >
> > > And where is this "pushed so hard into the ground" shit documented?
> >
> > Paul Vigay posted it to you a looong time ago. You ignored his post...!
> > There are data bases. And websites. I've seen them on thse things...! Get
> > the 'movie; "crOp Circles, Quest for the truth" <cropcirclesthemovie.com>
>
> um, OK. I'll take that as a no.

Ya. You do that, simian.....


>
> I've never seen anything that resembled
> anything other than plants knocked over. I've looked at all the crap urls
> you've posted and seen nothing but plants knocked over.

Just the ones I posted....? Christ Jesus, ape. Do a search
for crop circles. Buy the DVD. I had to look for myself. What
I tell you, most of it came from "some" of those sites. Did you
ever go to Mid's"TOTAL Simian Solution" site.


>
> > But the flowers, Tim. And the one inch bend. The stalks only
> > are pressed firmly to the ground. Can't do that with a plank & a
> > wank, or a garden roller....filled with > lead...! "crush, snap, crackle
> > and pop...."
>
> Again, this is scientifically documented nowhere.

It is by those scientist & Doctors who are involved in the
'science' of the crop markings....

Your simian mainstream rocket scientists want nothing
to do with the markings. They're as Godless as you....

And they would never ever think of interbreeding. Organized
religion would just die.....!
>
> snip a fine kook-rant.

What's the matter, monkey man....? Got to think too much...?

Christ Jesus, I'm on a planet of hybrids who are Cro-Magnon
gene dominant, apes ....! Who have the knowledge of good
and evil. And evil rules...! On a global scale.....! So does good,
in the markings....!

"There is a God, dear hybrids"

(HOHA)


Twonky

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"Terry Wilson" <terryj...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I have done it. You haven't. It can be done and if you think it can't, you're
deluding yourself. As for public demonstrations, there's no way anyone is going
to bother trying to show you something you could verify for yourself in two
minutes. Go flatten some and see with your own eyes.

<><><><><><>

Wouldn't that be feel it with my own feet....? I can see it with
my own eyes already. I'm a hybrid. Not a claiming godless
hypothetical hoaxing simian....! Nor an assuming evolved
baboon. I don't just assume that hoaxing simians do any
other fields but for tram lined wheat....! An ape cannot
educate a hybrid. Hybrids are more resourceful and
reasonable than evolved godless simians....! Go climb
a tree....!

HiC

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"Twonky" <two...@googol.god HOHA> wrote in message news:<bhdf7f$7dk$1...@slb6.atl.mindspring.net>...

>
> Christ Jesus, I'm on a planet of hybrids who are Cro-Magnon
> gene dominant, apes ....!

By all means, give another planet a try... I'm sure you can hitch a
ride with the next authentic UFO that swings through town. How about
Mars? Won't be closer for 60k years!

Good 'ol Twonky, still rabidly trying to convince the same 6 people
who actually see his posts.

Tim Kozusko

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Mantismind <manti...@hushmail.com> wrote in message
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> What's happened to "wild asses of men?" You've expanded the Xtreme
> prejudice to all relatives of simians? That is not a very alien way
> to act, Twonk. It must be your "primate" side talking.

He's trying to get in touch with it.

Someone toss Twonks another banana.


Terry Wilson

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Aug 15, 2003, 7:01:17 AM8/15/03
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> And the researchers....
>
> If they looked as if they were steamed. Then they must
> have been brittle to the point of breaking very easily....!

They do look as if they have been steamed. They also look exactly as if they
had been pushed over with feet. That's how such stems look.

Reminds me of a story whereby some scientist asked a group of students "why
did people used to think the sun went around the earth?" To which they
replied, "Because it looks as if it does". The scientists replied, "So how
would it look if the Earth were spinning on its axis and rotating around the
sun?"

> Do you have a problem with that....! That oil seed rape
> actually snaps, at the snapping stage.....?

Which is when? And how do you determine whether a given formation appeared
at the "snapping stage"? I have never seen this documented. How long does
the snapping stage last?

>
> Are you going to ask me to prove they snap....? I think it's
> common knowledge.

It's a myth. A commonly held myth, but a myth nonetheless.

HiC

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"Joe Bloue" <jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote in message news:<0QAYa.2386$6Y1.137...@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>...

> While you don't see any aliens, there are many others who claim that they
> have. Shall we simply dismiss these claims with a wave of the hand without
> any consideration?

No, they should be dismissed once one does some examination and still
finds nothing resembling any credible evidence suggesting their
existence. There has never been one shred of viable, credible hard
evidence that can stand up to objective examination, that demonstrates
the existence of extra-terrestrial visits, or that the formation of
crop circles are anything but an elaborate prank.

They say "watch this movie" which allegedly shows "stunning footage",
clear and obvious proof of alien visits. What you see is some cheesy
production of the most laughable, National Enquirer level nonsense.
The "evidence" consists of scratches, streaks, indistinct lights and
various amorphous blobs that through some fantasitc leap of delusional
imagination they've convinced themselves are OBVIOUSLY spacecraft. In
one particularly laughable sequence, a speck jiggling due to camera
unsteadiness was referred to as a "hyper leap captured on film".

"Mexico City!" they cry. Film footage of which turns out to be either
A) Venus exactly where it should be or B) Some ridiculously badly
hoaxed film that looks like a Jr. High film class did the sfx.

They'll parse and dodge rationalize and refute anything that doesn't
point toward litte green men. But the fact is that they can't produce
one clear, in focus, up-close undoctored photo or film.

Of course, there are plenty of nice clear, really purty and obviously
fake photos, suitable for framing.

These valiant, staunch loonies aren't at all discouraged by the fact
that while they can't actually produce any viable evidence, there IS a
mountain of evidence showing fraud and fakery of every description,
ranging from the crude to the fairly sophisticated. Some of which is,
by design, quite entertaining. Even websites proudly put up by crop
circle hoaxers, who not only tell in great detail exactly how they did
it, but will even send you the plans to make your very own.

Joe Bloue

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"Twonky" <two...@googol.god> wrote in message
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>
> "Joe Bloue" <jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote in message
> news:GtAYa.732$aE4...@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com...
> >
> > "Wally AngleseaT" <wang...@spbigpondammersareparasites.net.au> wrote in
> > message news:21j5jv8tjekg1iv5m...@4ax.com...

> > > On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 20:26:48 GMT, "Joe Bloue"
> > > <jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >"Harlow" <Campbel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > >news:9811968d.03080...@posting.google.com...
> > > >> "Joe Bloue" <jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote in message
> > > >news:EgyYa.2316$vA7.136...@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...

> > > >> > What's up with everyone here labeling each other as 'kooks'?
Doesn't
> > > >anyone
> > > >> > actually talk about aliens and UFOs here?
> > > >>
> > > >> There are no aliens you fucking kook.
> > > >
> > > >And you know there are no aliens because ________
> > > >
> > > >(You get to fill in the blank)
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You are right. Let's turn it around.
> > >
> > > You know there are aliens because...................................
> > >
> > > please cite credible resources.
> > >
> >
> > I never claimed that I do know that there are aliens. I'm simply asking
the
> > other poster to support his claim that there aren't any.
>
> Harlow's not a poster. He's the poster boy for all the evolved simians,
gorillas
> and baboons on this group. They responded to you. You and I are the only

> reasonable ones in this thread concerning the eXistence of ETs.....

It's nice to meet someone who's actually interested in ETs. I think many of
the other folks here are just interested in slinging mud and insults.


> The evolved hoaxing simians never addressed the sequence in the Mexico
City
> tapes I bring up, because they can't trash it. It's just one of many
sequences. A
> credible source. But it looks like one is all I need. Just like the crop
markings.

So the debunkers don't want to discuss the Mexico City Sightings? No
surprise there. Their credo seems to be 'If you can't debunk it, ignore
it.'

> And for a crop marking it's any in a "tram line less" field of oil seed
rape. When
> the plants are in full bloom and at the snapping stage. They snap like
celery if

> bent at just a slight angle. Markings are found with the stalks bent an
inch from


> the ground. (As if they were steamed.) The yellow flower is stll intact,
and the
> plants pushed so hard to the ground, researchers have been quoted as
saying;
> "It looks as if tremendous pressure was used....!"
>

> Try doing that with a piece of 'string, a plank & a wank...!'
>
> Have you ever seen the evolved hoaxing baboons of Team Satan AKA the
> Circle Jerksers do a crop clown show on The Discovery Channel...et al...in
> any other type of field but tram lined wheat....? No...! You haven't...!
And you
> never ever will. Ask them to demo on a live web cast, in oil seed rape .
They'll
> spit in your face and tell you go to hell. Where they reside and will
forever,
> with their mentor...!
>
> Go here http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/3517/index.html and watch Team Satan
> morph in the Circle Jerkers....! Watch it. They may may hack your
computer...!
>
> (They changed their name for public relation purposes. Ordered by their
elite
> mainstream media moguls who would tout them as the be all to end all in
the crop
> markings, in global displays of crop clown shows.) But they still remain a
> hypothetical.
> Just like ETs.....! But ETs and their crafts are seen on mainstream and
fringe media
> a hell of a lot more than the Team Satan hoaxing baboons....! And more
than their
> Teams of Satan, imp lying simian minions. ETs have been in the mainstream
& fringe
> media a hell of a lot longer than the evolved hoaxing simians...!


>
> And, the bonehead monkey men only do FLAT fields of tram lined wheat on
their
> 3 monkey crop clown shows. Some markings appear in very hilly fields.
Where the
> rope of the hoaxing simians would hit the crest of the hill...!
>

> I've 'divorced' myself from the species of evolved apes. I found I am a
hybrid
> in the offspring of Cain. After a female found him wandering in the
'wilderness.'
> He settled with the Neandertals. ...' His offspring were the cause of the
Neandertals
> 'disappearance...!' And modern 'civilized' man appeared. The only
'problem'
> about being a hybrid is, one finds there is a Creator who orchestrated our
present
> state....! To suffer death...! The curse on the parents of Cain. And ALL
who would
> come from that seed. The seed of a murderer. Our species....!
>
> Is it coincidence the Neandertal & Cro-Magnon met up in Northern
Israel...?
> (Israelis & Palestinians....?)
>
> "No man is willing to know of his origin, lest he know the Almighty God,
Hashem.
> The God of Israel...! Author of Light, Creation & Life..."
> (Twonky, Hybrid of Hashem Almighty 'HOHA')
>
> The denying hybrids, remaining evolved, are such fucking gorillas....! And
apes
> can never know the one & only, Creator.....! The evolved have their God of
the
> Apes.....! King Kong most likely....! And Mighty Joe Youg, his begotten
son....!
>
> Christ Jesus...am I glad I found I'm a hybrid....! Actually the entire
'human'
> species is a a species of hybrids. But (it looks like) I'm the only one
with the
> genes of the parents of Cain, dominant within. And not Neandertal,
Cro-Magon,
> Cro-Nean, simian, gorilla, nor baboon gene dominant like those remaining
evolved
> on the real planet of the apes...!
>
> ·¸ ¸·
> ¸·´·¸
> ·><·
> The very......two dimensional....third in the order.......out of three
dimensions
> into the flat, visual two dimensions. And into the flat headed two
dimensional
> psyche, of the godless evolved simians, gorillas and baboons....
>
> Earth...! The REAL planet of the apes. A planet of diversified, Apedom...!
>
> Hey Evil Mike. From where'd you get your Evil....?! The same place I got
my
> Good. Fucking hypocrite....! Just admit where it all comes from....! Then
you'll
> be a thinking hybrid. Rather than a bonehead, remaining an evolved
baboon....!
>
> ·>
> Twonky.....
>
> ·>....Hybrid with XtremePrejudice & no mercy....<·
>
> It's the YHVH Tzva'ot.......stupid!
>
> kiddush Ha~Shem/Hashem...Almighty God...maker of Creation!
> Many names....
>
> chillul al-llah/Allah.....Supreme God......repeater of Creation!?!? One
name.....
>
> Will the real Almighty God, Creator, please 'stand' up? It's a no
brainer....
> really...
>
> Reality bites.....for the evolved...!
>
> WHEW
>
> / \
> /.·.\RMAGEDDON......................+|-..................Godless
hybrids......
>
> bhratar suasti bhratar suastika ki salu chapi aniama ista dai tiuustur
tikamo
>
> YHWH
>
>
>
>
>


Harlow

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"Joe Bloue" <jo...@somesillyplace.com> wrote in message news:V3a%a.121$6L2.73...@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...

> > Harlow's not a poster. He's the poster boy for all the evolved simians,
> gorillas
> > and baboons on this group. They responded to you. You and I are the only
> > reasonable ones in this thread concerning the eXistence of ETs.....
>
> It's nice to meet someone who's actually interested in ETs. I think many of
> the other folks here are just interested in slinging mud and insults.

Well, well, well....So you are a disiciple of Twonky now, eh?

Tell me then....What are you decended from?....Monkey or ape?

Or maybe you are a HOHA ?

Joe Bloue

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"Harlow" <HVACa...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I was created by God just as you were.

Michael Davis

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So your imaginary god told your mom and dad to get it on in the
back seat and create you, is that it?

Superstitious clod.

--
The Evil Michael Davis(tm)
http://mdavis19.tripod.com
http://skepticult.org Member #264-70198-536
Member #33 1/3 of The "I Have Been Killfiled By Tommy" Club

"There's a sucker born every minute" - David Hannum (often
erroneously attributed to P. T. Barnum)

Pete Charest

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Well, Joe BlowMe, I always knew you were a profoundly stupid person,
but now I see you are a religious crackpot as well.

Your so-called *god* is a figment of your imagination, dipshit.


God is an idiot and only morons and dunderheads believe in such
things.

haha

---
Pete Charest
Trüth Tærrorist©
Will Insult Kooks for Food

Otis Reed

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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:08:20 -0400, Pete Charest
<Big...@SharpTeeth.com> wrote:


<snip>


>God is an idiot and only morons and dunderheads believe in such
>things.

For God to be an idiot, God would have to exist.
In your idiocy you confess that God exists.
Way to go, idiot.

>
>haha

Yes, but I am not laughing 'with' you.


Pete Charest

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On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 20:43:32 GMT, Otis Reed <or...@spammenot.net>
wrote:

>On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:08:20 -0400, Pete Charest
><Big...@SharpTeeth.com> wrote:
>
>
><snip>
>
>
>>God is an idiot and only morons and dunderheads believe in such
>>things.
>
>For God to be an idiot, God would have to exist.

I knew this would bring out the profoundly stupid Shantar Omeganheads.

Are you all QuadHeaded out these days pRicckkee?

>In your idiocy you confess that God exists.

Confess? Sorry pRicckkee, your gay Roman Catholic programming is
showing.

Go tell your priest, and ask him for forgiveness and not too many
'spankings' for penance, dipshit.

Ricochet®

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Serious question.

If God don't exist then how did we all get here?

"Otis Reed" <or...@spammenot.net> wrote in message
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Harlow

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"Ricochet®" <Rico...@home.com> wrote in message news:9zT%a.3298$Nc.22...@news1.news.adelphia.net...

> Serious question.
>
> If God don't exist then how did we all get here?

As OJ said, "I'll take a stab at it".

In the beginning there was the Big Bang. It began both time and space.
Asking what happened before the Big Bang is both unknowable and
irrelevant since time itself began then.

Now...As slight gravitational forces began to take hold, groups of
proto-atoms
began to coalesce. This eventually led to the first stars made up
mostly of pure
hydrogen...Since these stars are huge fusion reactors there began to
form more
complex atoms, when these stars died some of them went supernova,
casting
dust clouds made up of complex matter. These stars formed into
galaxies and
galactic clusters. After countless generations of birth and death of
stars, in an
otherwise non-descript corner of a non-descript galaxy, dust coalesced
and formed
our sun....Later the planets formed, from tiny Mercury to mighty
Jupiter.
After billions of years, on the 3rd planet, various amino acids began
to form more
complex structures...Through a complex system of celestial trial and
error these
structures began to be able to replicate themselves.....At that point
true survival
of the fittest evolution took over and eventually led to "we all".

I might not say it real pretty, but this is truly what happened.

To those believers in god....I say that there is no need to change
your life.

Do what is right because it is the right thing to do....Not because
you fear going to hell.

Doesn't THAT make you a better person than someone who does what is
right ONLY
in expectation of a reward?

Well, there's my "major piece"

Ricochet®

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Aug 17, 2003, 7:26:14 PM8/17/03
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A big bang of what? Now I'm being serious.
If nothing existed before time.. then what made the bang?
Do you think that God could have caused this big bang to happen because he
wanted this to occur?

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Twonky

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Aug 18, 2003, 9:48:06 AM8/18/03
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"Otis Reed" <or...@spammenot.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:08:20 -0400, Pete Charest
> <Big...@SharpTeeth.com> wrote:
>
>
> <snip>
>
>
> >God is an idiot and only morons and dunderheads believe in such
> >things.
>
> For God to be an idiot, God would have to exist.
> In your idiocy you confess that God exists.
> Way to go, idiot.

Good one, Otis....


>
> >
> >haha
>
> Yes, but I am not laughing 'with' you.

HOHA.....!
>
>

CIAspook

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"Otis Reed" <or...@spammenot.net> wrote in message
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Otis the one story elevator is back insulting
folks again.

Have a nice day loser.

Harry


Tim Kozusko

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Ricochet® <Rico...@home.com> wrote in message
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> Serious question.
>
> If God don't exist then how did we all get here?

Serious question:
Can God conjugate verbs?


Pete Charest

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Aug 18, 2003, 8:02:08 PM8/18/03
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On 17 Aug 2003 16:10:17 -0700, HVACa...@hotmail.com (Harlow) wrote:


>In the beginning there was the Big Bang. It began both time and space.
>Asking what happened before the Big Bang is both unknowable and
>irrelevant since time itself began then.

You mean it's meaningless?

>
>Now...As slight gravitational forces began to take hold, groups of
>proto-atoms
>began to coalesce. This eventually led to the first stars made up
>mostly of pure
>hydrogen...Since these stars are huge fusion reactors there began to
>form more
>complex atoms, when these stars died some of them went supernova,
>casting
>dust clouds made up of complex matter. These stars formed into
>galaxies and
>galactic clusters. After countless generations of birth and death of
>stars, in an
>otherwise non-descript corner of a non-descript galaxy, dust coalesced
>and formed
>our sun....Later the planets formed, from tiny Mercury to mighty
>Jupiter.
>After billions of years, on the 3rd planet, various amino acids began
>to form more
>complex structures...Through a complex system of celestial trial and
>error these
>structures began to be able to replicate themselves.....At that point
>true survival
>of the fittest evolution took over and eventually led to "we all".
>
>I might not say it real pretty, but this is truly what happened.

Well, it's close enough, I guess.


>
>To those believers in god....I say that there is no need to change
>your life.

I say that they should cease and desist their bullshit belief in
imaginary deities. Keeping them is just enabling their dementia.

God is nothing, God is zilch, let us eat him with our food. Amen.


>Do what is right because it is the right thing to do....Not because
>you fear going to hell.

Religions don't create good behavior through threats of hell. They
create a hell of a lot of sinners.


>Doesn't THAT make you a better person than someone who does what is
>right ONLY
>in expectation of a reward?

Sign me up for those infinite blow-jobs from Jolene Blalock in heaven.

Ricochet®

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You need to see someone about your problem...Try church for help.

"Pete Charest" <Big...@SharpTeeth.com> wrote in message
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Pete Charest

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On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 01:02:38 GMT, "Ricochet®" <Rico...@home.com>
wrote:

>You need to see someone about your problem...

And what, exactly, is my problem?

>Try church for help.

If by help you really mean sexual abuse then, yes, church is the best
source for that. Otherwise, church is essentially useless. Join a club
if you need to be propped up with a sense of belonging.

Echelon Administration

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On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 22:44:21 GMT, "Ricochet®" <Rico...@home.com>
wrote:

>Serious question.
>
>If God don't exist then how did we all get here?

While there are several ideas that fit with currently understood
aspects of the physical universe, there is no need to postulate a
'god' for life to come about.

If you are asserting that there IS a 'god' who brought about life in
our universe, please state how you know this is a fact, since you
'wasn't there' at the beginnings of life.

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"I contend we are both atheists; I simply believe in one less god than
you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the others, you'll
understand why I dismiss yours."

Sir Gilligan Horry

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______________________________________

If we could change all the trees and leaves and everything green from
green to purple on the entire face of the Earth... would we become
gods ? ... or antagonists of god ?

---------------
Are there more than 350 religions on earth ?

---------------
Is James Van Praagh being truthful ?

http://thebeyondshow.com


=========================
Disclaimer:
Forget those questions.... I want to know how to get a job controlling
the extraterrestrial information so that billions of people don't
panic.

I like People !!

I love Earth !!

And I especially love Miss Nancy's cups of tea !!!


Twonky

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Aug 19, 2003, 10:17:09 AM8/19/03
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"Terry Wilson" <terryj...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> > And the researchers....
> >
> > If they looked as if they were steamed. Then they must
> > have been brittle to the point of breaking very easily....!
>
> They do look as if they have been steamed. They also look exactly as if they
> had been pushed over with feet. That's how such stems look.

Feet don't bend them an inch from the ground. What about the flowers...?


>
> Reminds me of a story whereby some scientist asked a group of students "why
> did people used to think the sun went around the earth?" To which they
> replied, "Because it looks as if it does". The scientists replied, "So how
> would it look if the Earth were spinning on its axis and rotating around the
> sun?"

What would it be like if the earth was a cube....?


>
>
>
> > Do you have a problem with that....! That oil seed rape
> > actually snaps, at the snapping stage.....?
>
> Which is when?

At the snapping stage. Flower in bloom....


>
> And how do you determine whether a given formation appeared
> at the "snapping stage"?

If the flowers are crushed, stems broken and just a general pounded
to the ground by mechanical means, mess. Hoaxers are not artists.
They are construction workers. The simians hammer and nail a marking
into the field....


>
> I have never seen this documented.

There are plenty of sites that cover all aspects of the markings...


>
> How long does the snapping stage last?

As long as no hoaxing simian claims a marking in a rape field.
And as long as the simians of Team Satan do not live demo, nor
construct them on their '3 simians stomping' circus clown monkey
shows, in all the differing grain fields in which markings appear......!


>
> >
> > Are you going to ask me to prove they snap....? I think it's
> > common knowledge.
>
> It's a myth. A commonly held myth, but a myth nonetheless.

Let's see them do it. That's all. In all the grains they claim.
With and without tramlines.....! I'm not an assuming ass for
the evolved boneheads...!

Until they prove their claimed prowess and intelligence on a
live WebCast, the evolved simians of Team Satan, and their
claiming imp-lying simian minions, are null & void...!

To prove how fucking smart they are, the evolved apes of
Team Satan must have one team in each type of grain. The
marking must be an Xact match of the original claimed marking.
They claim ALL makings and fields, by association....!

So they must drag out the digrams and start stompng their
apeman plank wank, in live demos, for public con-sumption...!

Here's a myth you forgot.....evolution....!

Ricochet®

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The BIBLE

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Ricochet®

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Do you read books?

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Echelon Administration

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On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 15:18:54 GMT, "Ricochet®" <Rico...@home.com>
wrote:

>The BIBLE

While there is a book called the 'Bible', and it is considered by many
to be factual as an article of their religious faith, it does not of
itself prove the existence of a 'god' or 'gods' having created life
beyond the retelling of a creation myth for the faithful.

Additionally, you are placing your belief in a book that purports to
chronicle events you 'wasn't there' to see--so how do you know they
are accurate?


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Michael Davis

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Aug 19, 2003, 6:15:56 PM8/19/03
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Ricochet® wrote:
> The BIBLE

Is a mere book of fairy tales written by a bunch of primitive and
superstitious men a long time ago. HTH.

--
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http://mdavis19.tripod.com
http://skepticult.org Member #264-70198-536
Member #33 1/3 of The "I Have Been Killfiled By Tommy" Club

"There's a sucker born every minute" - David Hannum (often
erroneously attributed to P. T. Barnum)


>

Tim Kozusko

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> Feet don't bend them an inch from the ground. What about the flowers...?

You are so full of shit.
Where is a study that has the bend heights for stalks and statistics done of
them?
It's just YOU saying this. There is no data to support it that you can
offer.

Tim Kozusko

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Ricochet® <Rico...@home.com> wrote in message
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> The BIBLE

It makes a really shitty biology text.


Tim Kozusko

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Sir Gilligan Horry <G...@ga7rm5er.com> wrote in message
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> If we could change all the trees and leaves and everything green from
> green to purple on the entire face of the Earth... would we become
> gods ? ... or antagonists of god ?

Dunno about that, but it would really screw up photosynthesis.


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