I wanna skate like I can walk.
John Doe
I want to be as good on my skates as on my feet, to be able to handle any
circumstance in the concrete jungle, known or unexpected.
I saw a video linked to from this group. It was a hockey skater doing some
fancy, very quick movements with his feet, letting his skates slip out from
under him one at a time in various directions, while staying in place. Very
cool (sorry, I don't remember the link). That is the control I would like
to have, put to practical use.
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There is nothing of great importance in this post. It is mostly intended to
be trivia. Just have fun.
FNGuy
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> I don't want to aggressive skate. Don't want to speed skate.
>
> I want to be as good on my skates as on my feet, to be able to handle
> any circumstance in the concrete jungle, known or unexpected.
On quads or inlines?
I've no magic bullet for you, but I do have 2 words: Pads & Practice ;')
Perhaps the sk8 sub-culture that you want to pursue lessons from is...
freestyle? Or dance? Or hockey? Let us know... I too would like to be
more able and stable at low speeds... maybe do a slow fore-aft split, and
come back up, on just the nose wheel of one skate and tail wheel of the
other... or just be more confident if I encounter a cobbled surface after
many miles of hard skating, when my legs are like noodles al dente.
> I saw a video linked to from this group. It was a hockey skater doing
> some fancy, very quick movements with his feet, letting his skates
> slip out from under him one at a time in various directions, while
> staying in place. Very cool (sorry, I don't remember the link). That
> is the control I would like to have, put to practical use.
YOU CAN DO IT TOO! Just as with playing certain musical instruments, e.g.
the violin, there's probably some "research" out there that says that you
cannot reach the very highest levels of skate-borne balance, unless you
started at some ridiculously young age... ignore such research.
Isn't there ALWAYS room for improvement? Is ANYBODY, except a handful of
full-time pros, at the theoretical peak of their skating "game"?
Mike van Erp
> I don't want to aggressive skate. Don't want to speed skate.
>
> I want to be as good on my skates as on my feet, to be able to handle any
> circumstance in the concrete jungle, known or unexpected.
>
> I saw a video linked to from this group. It was a hockey skater doing some
> fancy, very quick movements with his feet, letting his skates slip out from
> under him one at a time in various directions, while staying in place. Very
> cool (sorry, I don't remember the link). That is the control I would like
> to have, put to practical use.
Is it this video of a barrel roll?
http://www.londonskaters.com/video/barrelroll.mpg
Playing inline hockey is a great way to get more balance and control.
Maybe you could join a club in your area? Also you can wear your
skates around the house a lot doing chores.
Bob Cardone
>Playing inline hockey is a great way to get more balance and control.
>Maybe you could join a club in your area? Also you can wear your
>skates around the house a lot doing chores.
Try Painting a couple of ceilings in your house like that :)
Bob
FNGuy
> I don't want to aggressive skate. Don't want to speed skate.
>
> I want to be as good on my skates as on my feet, to be able to handle
> any circumstance in the concrete jungle, known or unexpected.
>
> I saw a video linked to from this group. It was a hockey skater doing
> some fancy, very quick movements with his feet, letting his skates
> slip out from under him one at a time in various directions, while
> staying in place. Very cool (sorry, I don't remember the link). That
> is the control I would like to have, put to practical use.
OK, so from watching roller hockey, you already know about small wheels and
ROCKERing ...
Remember what Obi-wan said: "Become ONE with your skates" lol...
T.Hsu
> I don't want to aggressive skate. Don't want to speed skate.
> I want to be as good on my skates as on my feet, to be able to handle any
> circumstance in the concrete jungle, known or unexpected.
So you want to get really good at skating and you don't want to get
into a specialized discipline? That's like doing things the hard way.
It's way easier to just join a single minded skating group.
After a year or two of aggro, you'll be able to cross uneven railroad
tracks, backwards, at 16+ mph, while holding a conversation, and think
nothing of it. Rough terrain is simple when you can land a 360 gap
jump onto a 2 story stair flight.
After a year of outdoor speed skating, 500' vertical climbs and 40 mph
downhills become everyday, trivial events. Pick up indoor speed
skating for a year, and you'll do more crossovers than most skaters do
their entire lives.
A year of hockey and you'll turn, sprint, and stop faster than
practically all of your non-hockey friends. Plus, you'll pick up this
sixth sense awareness of everyone and everything around you. Avoiding
checks and slap shots every 15 seconds does wonders for keeping your
head up and your eyes constantly scanning your surroundings.
Both figure skating and cones will force you to improve your balance
(especially on one foot) and backwards skating more than any other
dicipline. Plus you'll learn either crowd pleasing jumps or jaw
dropping footwork in the process.
The reality is, without an environment that rewards tedious practice,
you're just not going to do it. And all skating skills require tedious
practice. But put the practice in the context of something else, say
race training or a hockey game, and suddenly, it's not tedious
anymore.
--
// T.Hsu
Motorblade
>So you want to get really good at skating and you don't want to get
>into a specialized discipline? That's like doing things the hard way.
>It's way easier to just join a single minded skating group.
>
>After a year or two of aggro, you'll be able to cross uneven railroad
>tracks,
snip
>The reality is, without an environment that rewards tedious practice,
>you're just not going to do it. And all skating skills require tedious
>practice. But put the practice in the context of something else, say
>race training or a hockey game, and suddenly, it's not tedious
>anymore.
>--
>// T.Hsu
>
>
>
That was all very well put, almost makes me cry, like a manifesto of sorts
right on, Hsu
props to Hsu
"fritz"
http://www.londonskaters.com/interview_fritz_blaw.htm
www.motorblade.com
Birdy(Parker), Brazil(Gilliam),and Brewster McCloud(Altman)
Bob Cardone
Corey Gibson
> >you're just not going to do it. And all skating skills require tedious
> >practice. But put the practice in the context of something else, say
> >race training or a hockey game, and suddenly, it's not tedious
> >anymore.
> >--
> >// T.Hsu
> >
> >
> >
>
> That was all very well put, almost makes me cry, like a manifesto of sorts
>
> right on, Hsu
>
> props to Hsu
>
>
>
>
> "fritz"
I have to second that. That is one of the most open minded comentaries
I've seen on the whole inline skating subject.
Snaps for Hsu!!
Corey Gibson
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>
Loved it !
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FNGuy
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I THIRD it! Well done! Kudos! When will the book be out?
All of a sudden ... I feel like getting into "organized" skating, and
buying expensive sk8 clothing! Or I could just show up for my lessons more
often than "once in a while"... maybe even risk embarrassing myself at a
race clinic. ;')
John Doe
>>So you want to get really good at skating and you don't want to get
>>into a specialized discipline? That's like doing things the hard way.
>>It's way easier to just join a single minded skating group.
>>After a year or two of aggro, you'll be able to cross uneven railroad
>>tracks,
>>The reality is, without an environment that rewards tedious practice,
>>you're just not going to do it.
I don't fit the stereotype. Probably few people concentrate on one thing
until it's done like I do. That's how I learned to juggle. I don't need
your stinking idea of discipline.
I already feel very good on skates.
Motorblade willing, I am going to ignore the thread again. But he probably
will make sure I catch the highlights.
:o/
>>--
>>// T.Hsu
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> That was all very well put, almost makes me cry, like a manifesto of
sorts
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> right on, Hsu
>
> props to Hsu
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>
>
>
> "fritz"
> http://www.londonskaters.com/interview_fritz_blaw.htm
> www.motorblade.com
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T.Hsu
> > The reality is, without an environment that rewards tedious practice,
> > you're just not going to do it.
>
> I don't fit the stereotype. Probably few people concentrate on one thing
> until it's done like I do. That's how I learned to juggle. I don't need
> your stinking idea of discipline.
>
> I already feel very good on skates.
If you've done the majority of your skating by yourself, it's hard to
understand just how much crazier a single minded group can become.
I found a cone course in Boston about a month after I started skating.
Those coneheads just amazed me with their tricks, and those tricks
became my goals. It was one of those epitath moments. Luckily, there
were 3 beginning coneheads (that later grew to 10), and we bonded.
From skating just a mere 10 times in my entire life, I now skated
EVERY day it didn't rain for 6-12 hours at a stretch. That's 6 hours
weekdays, 12 hours weekends, 25 days a month, May through November. I
ate, slept, worked, skated, and that's it. And 10 of my new friends
did it with me.
In 6 months I went from being shakey on my feet to being a crowd
pleasing showoff and even an IISA certified instructor. And I blame it
all on mass insanity, because no one skates solo that obsessively.
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// T.Hsu