Hope this helps,
Don
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Don,
nobody in this NG loves a murder. Nobody supports the terrible ations which
were done by someone! But, should we do the same to this person? Jesus won't
kill someone because of his actions. He would forgive these persons. "Love
your next like you love yourself"! That is what Jesus said! Think about!
Florian
.......and another thing Florian, never respond seriously to a Kool post.
He isn't worth your time or trouble. I await Jigsaw's comments on McGinn.
Florian Mair wrote:
>
> Rev. Don Kool schrieb in Nachricht <39720854...@home.com>...
> >
> > If our murderer loving friends had even a shred of decency and
> >sense of fair play, they would rightly be calling for proven
> >murderer Ricky McGinn to be justly executed before the sun set on
> >the day that his frivilious DNA test proved the courts right and him
> >guilty as sin of the rape and murder of an innocent little toddler.
> >If DNA testing is to be used as the definitive measure of guilt or
> >innocence, the proven murderers should be as willing to accept their
> >just punishment as quickly as they would accept their release. God
> >Bless future President George Bush. He will put a definitive end to
> >such foolishness.
> Don,
>
> nobody in this NG loves a murder.
Sadly those of you that oppose the just Death Penalty love
murderers. That will weigh heavily on your souls when Judgement Day
comes.
Yours in Christ,
On Mon, 17 Jul 2000 17:45:00 +0200, "Florian Mair" <Mail...@web.de>
Don't you just love a nice rational post first thing in the morning?
Sincerely,
David.
About what I have to worry? Tell it me!
Florian
A Planet Visitor wrote:
> Premature hair loss, the heartbreak of psoriasis, adolescent pimples,
> blue balls from lack of..., acne, passing your sixth grade exam, making
> sure your Mother doesn't catch you in the act of self-abuse,
> bed-wetting,
> picking your nose in public, tying your shoes without help, wondering if
> Helma or Gurda are interested in you, and about a million other things.
> Jeez, it must be tough being a teenager. Maybe others in this
> newsgroup could provide other things you should worry about. I'm
> hoping you make it through these difficult adolescent years, Junge.
>
Because if you don't make it, you will become just like Planet Visitor.
"Florian Mair" <Mail...@web.de> wrote in message
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>
>
> About what I have to worry? Tell it me!
>
> Florian
>
(Rest clipped, because they really provided no help to this young man)
You know, that I am a teenager! Shall I start laughing now???
Florian
That's right! Thank you!
Florian
Odagnop wrote:
>
> A Planet Visitor wrote:
>
> > Premature hair loss, the heartbreak of psoriasis, adolescent pimples,
> > blue balls from lack of..., acne, passing your sixth grade exam, making
> > sure your Mother doesn't catch you in the act of self-abuse,
> > bed-wetting,
> > picking your nose in public, tying your shoes without help, wondering if
> > Helma or Gurda are interested in you, and about a million other things.
> > Jeez, it must be tough being a teenager. Maybe others in this
> > newsgroup could provide other things you should worry about. I'm
> > hoping you make it through these difficult adolescent years, Junge.
> >
>
> Because if you don't make it, you will become just like Planet Visitor.
No, he really needs to worry about saving some money so his country can
afford to pay reparations to the slave laborers they used to run their
factories all those years ago.
Norma
Now, start lusting after that pigtailed mädel next door,
and quit bothering your elders and betters.
"Florian Mair" <Mail...@web.de> wrote in message
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>
> A Planet Visitor schrieb in Nachricht ...
> >Premature hair loss, the heartbreak of psoriasis, adolescent pimples,
> >blue balls from lack of..., acne, passing your sixth grade exam,
making
> >sure your Mother doesn't catch you in the act of self-abuse,
> >bed-wetting,
> >picking your nose in public, tying your shoes without help, wondering
if
> >Helma or Gurda are interested in you, and about a million other
things.
> >Jeez, it must be tough being a teenager. Maybe others in this
> >newsgroup could provide other things you should worry about. I'm
> >hoping you make it through these difficult adolescent years, Junge.
> >
Florian
But let's really start at the beginning of civilization shall
we? One of the first subjects I studied was Greek
Philosophy, and from that I learned as Socrates
observed in about 410 B.C. "Children are tyrants.
They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and
tyrannize their teachers." Not much has changed, as
you are proof positive of.
"Florian Mair" <Mail...@web.de> wrote in message
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Florian Mair wrote:
[...snip...]
> And please tell me, what's so stupid in my
> postings, look at yours!
You oppose the just punishment of proven murderers.
Happy to have cleared things up for you,
Nertheless, the fact that Socrates (perhaps the first philosopher
suits you better) had any sexual preferences one way or the other,
has NOTHING to do with the knowledge he imparted. Are we gay
bashing now??
Instead of castigating me, perhaps you should offer some advise
to the teen age snot, that before he begins to criticize any aspect,
of any subject, of any society, he should perhaps gain a perspective
of what the world further away than the road from his house to
his school has to offer by way of experience. I wonder how many
occasions he has had to experience the loss of ANYONE in his life.
How can you talk about the DP, if you don't know what death is??
For God's sake, his greatgrandmother is probably still alive and
kicking. Perhaps you and others consider this newsgroup a
learning ground for adolecents but I find it necessary to point out,
that I don't see this newsgroup as a kindergarten, for a process that
is somewhat more wrenching than "my girbil died last night." Nor
do I believe someone with his limited experience in life has the
capacity to offer any meaningful input or observation. He should
read before speaking -- read thoroughly and understand before he
shoots from his teenage lip (er -- hip). He also needs to first grow
up,
and he certainly should recognize that his youth and inexperience
showed through quite clearly to many on this newsgroup almost
from his first post. Now if you want to provide some personal training
to him, John... I'm sure he'll agree to waste your time in backchannel
nonsense. Personally, I have little patient with the young man, and
wish he'd go away, but I can't force that, so I do the best I can.
A PV
They hold weekend seminars because Sumeria was unknown
three generations ago. That is not its fault; it is due to its
antiquity. Greece is comparitively recent and has been
preserved. We owe as much to Sumeria as we do to
Greece. Leaving aside the invention of the wheel, the
formulation of degrees and minutes, architectural concepts
such as arches, domes and vaults, we still owe them a
great deal. I will quote from Professor Leonard Wooley
"But it is in the more abstract realm of ideas that the
Sumerians have most obviously and directly contributed to
the development of western civilisation, through the
Hebrew people. Not only did the Semites adopt ready-
made those stories of the creation and the Flood which
viewed as history or as parable have affected the
Christian even more than the Jewish Church; the
Jewish religion, as it owed not a little of its origin to
the Sumerian, so also was throughout the period of the
Kings and the Captivity brought into close contact
with the Babylonian worship which was taken over
from Sumer, and partly by its precept and partly in
opposition to it, attained higher growth. The
laws of Moses were largely nased on Sumerian codes
. . . . . . .The difficulty lies not in recognising the
fact but in estimating the importance of the debt
which the modern world owes to this race so
recently rescued from complete oblivion. . . . . . .
We have outgrown the phase when all the arts
were traced to Greece and Greece was thought
to have sprung, like Pallas, full-grown from the brain
of the Olympian Zeus; we have learnt how the flower
of genius drew its sap from Lydians and Hittites,
from Phoenicia and Crete, from Babylon and Egypt.
But the roots go farther back: behind all these lies
Sumer. The military conquests of the Sumerians,
the arts and crafts which they raised to so high
a level, their social organisation and their
conceptions of morality, even of religion, are not
isolated phenimenon, an archeological
curiosity; it is part of our own substance that
they claim our study, and in so far as they win
our admiration we praise our spiritual forebears."
Now, the Greeks are at least a 3 credit hour subject.
> Prior to the Greeks, all we really had was clans coming out of the
> caves and becoming larger and larger, and Egyptians building
> bigger and bigger monuments to themselves and their afterlife.
> But, when the Greeks arrived on the scene, ho boy... we started
> to think of more than just putting one foot in front of the other.
> In effect, we started to think... the first step on the road to
> civilization.
I think the above paragraph looks a little jaded; you might
reconsider your views.
>
> Nertheless, the fact that Socrates (perhaps the first philosopher
> suits you better) had any sexual preferences one way or the other,
> has NOTHING to do with the knowledge he imparted. Are we gay
> bashing now??
Wow! How sensitive Americans can be over sex. My
observation that Socrates sought the company of young men of
promise had nothing to do with sex. The point was that it
is the young who tend to have the new ideas and those are
what Socrates was interested in.
>
> Instead of castigating me, perhaps you should offer some advise
> to the teen age snot, that before he begins to criticize any aspect,
> of any subject, of any society, he should perhaps gain a perspective
> of what the world further away than the road from his house to
> his school has to offer by way of experience. I wonder how many
> occasions he has had to experience the loss of ANYONE in his life.
> How can you talk about the DP, if you don't know what death is??
> For God's sake, his greatgrandmother is probably still alive and
> kicking. Perhaps you and others consider this newsgroup a
> learning ground for adolecents but I find it necessary to point out,
> that I don't see this newsgroup as a kindergarten, for a process that
> is somewhat more wrenching than "my girbil died last night." Nor
> do I believe someone with his limited experience in life has the
> capacity to offer any meaningful input or observation. He should
> read before speaking -- read thoroughly and understand before he
> shoots from his teenage lip (er -- hip). He also needs to first grow
> up,
> and he certainly should recognize that his youth and inexperience
> showed through quite clearly to many on this newsgroup almost
> from his first post. Now if you want to provide some personal training
> to him, John... I'm sure he'll agree to waste your time in backchannel
> nonsense. Personally, I have little patient with the young man, and
> wish he'd go away, but I can't force that, so I do the best I can.
>
> A PV
I hope I never grow old as you appear to have grown old.
Youngsters shouldn't have views on the DP unless they
experienced the loss of someone near to them. Piffle!
"Nor. . . .someone with his limited experience in life has the
capacity to offer any meaningful input or observation"
What about "Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings etc.."