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Yek Irani

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May 13, 2001, 8:56:40 AM5/13/01
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Tehran police crack down on Internet, 400 cybercafes closed: paper

Iran - Sunday 13 May 2001 - AFP

TEHRAN, May 13 (AFP) - Authorities have closed hundreds of Tehran's
cybercafes in the past several days as part of a general crackdown on
growing use of the internet, a pro-reform newspaper reported on Sunday.

The Hambastigi paper said around 400 internet cafes, all of which have only
opened in the past three or four years, had been ordered to shut their doors
by police.

Owners are being told they now need permits for their cafes as well as for
use of the internet itself, and will have to register with a
conservative-run trade union for computer and business-machine operators.

"The police came yesterday and wanted to shut us down," a 20-year-old Tehran
cybercafe employee, who gave her name only as Leila, told AFP Sunday. "They
said from now on we must be registered with the authorities."

Internet use has exploded since the 1997 election of President Mohammad
Khatami, who has moved to liberalise Iranian society in the face of stiff
conservative opposition.

An e-mail address has become a must for young people from the wealthier
sectors of Iranian society, as well as among those less well-off.

"They simply wany to cut our phone links to the internet," said cybercafe
owner Reza, who also declined to give his full name.

He said he was already losing business after being forced to take out four
computers and put the blame for the crackdown on the state-run telephone
company, which he said was trying to monopolise Iran's internet business.

"It's the phone company behind this, because they don't want people to come
here anymore and be able to connect and talk abroad for hours," he said.

Chat rooms, normal e-mail and especially online phone services are cutting
into state phone company revenues.

Hambastigi said the cybercafe closures risk putting around 5,000 people out
of work and that the move contradicts Iran's moves toward privatisation and
greater openness to the outside world.

Leila said that hundreds of young Iranians have been coming to her cafe each
month and taking advantage of the cheapest way to communicate with friends
and family abroad, especially in Europe and the United States.

"This is a new restriction being imposed on young people," she said, adding
the owner was trying to get the necessary paperwork and that, if he is
unsuccessful, "I'll be unemployed again."


Yek Irani

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May 13, 2001, 8:58:27 AM5/13/01
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What else can you expect from a government that is run by kherghe pooshAne
mAfeeyAyee.

be omide nAboodeeye IRI

Yek Irani

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Koroush Ghazi

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May 13, 2001, 9:12:00 AM5/13/01
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They tried it in Nazi Germany by burning books, as well as Stalinist Russia.
Fortunately even the most despotic government can't stop the flow of
information.


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Peacock

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May 13, 2001, 11:32:00 AM5/13/01
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It was a matter of time. This is what happens when a reactionary religious
government is in charge of the country. This marks another nail in their
coffin!

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Yek Irani

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May 13, 2001, 12:32:06 PM5/13/01
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Peacock jAn,

I guess it was a matter of time before they realized closing down newspapers
won't do them any good as long as there is these cybercafes. I bet all the
pictures of roosaree besar Abjees from Tehran posting on Kiss.com may have
had something to do with it too. But you are absolutely right and their
efforts will in the long run be futal. In fact as a person who wishes to see
IRI destroyed instead of "reformed", I say two thumbs up to IRI. People need
to realize these barberians are NOT reformable and this helps.

be omide nAboodeeye IRI

Yek Irani

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NoBullMan

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May 13, 2001, 1:33:19 PM5/13/01
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I guss no one had told the mullahs what internet is and what it can do without
borders. I am sure they wouldn't have let internet in Iran if they knew that
internet was started by the United States Department of Defence .

man bar dahane in internet cafe mizanam , magar in ghahveh khaneh khodeman che
eshkali dareh ? chera bayad chai gharbi khord ?


and the IRI saga goes on .....


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Night23

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May 13, 2001, 3:26:24 PM5/13/01
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Islam is in grave danger with all this free speach.

Its best they shut it down before anyone gets any ideas.

La6red9nec

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May 13, 2001, 4:41:42 PM5/13/01
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>Subject: Re: Tehran police crack down on Internet, 400 cybercafes closed:
>paper
>From: "Yek Irani" YekI...@ee.net
>Date: 5/13/2001 5:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <TxvL6.189$RK4.3887@news>

>
>What else can you expect from a government that is run by kherghe pooshAne
>mAfeeyAyee.
>

HAHHAAHAH!
This aldang(idiot) was until recently in denial that there are any internet
cafes in Iran and now he condemns closing the,:))))))))))))
reedam beh ghabreh dadasheh shahidet!!!!!!!!!!

La6red9nec

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May 13, 2001, 4:42:26 PM5/13/01
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>Subject: Re: Tehran police crack down on Internet, 400 cybercafes closed:
>paper
>From: "Koroush Ghazi" King_o...@bigpond.com
>Date: 5/13/2001 6:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <wxvL6.26275$482.1...@newsfeeds.bigpond.com>

>
>They tried it in Nazi Germany by burning books, as well as Stalinist Russia.
>Fortunately even the most despotic government can't stop the flow of
>information.
>

Oh mama so melodramatic jeegar :)))))))

La6red9nec

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>Subject: Re: Tehran police crack down on Internet, 400 cybercafes closed:
>paper
>From: "Peacock" blue_p...@hotmail.com
>Date: 5/13/2001 8:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <qJxL6.24237$h%.4000404@news20.bellglobal.com>

>
>It was a matter of time. This is what happens when a reactionary religious
>government is in charge of the country. This marks another nail in their
>coffin!
>

koskhol you self-hating anti-Iranian parasites have put so many imaginary
"nails" in this coffin that it's virtually made out of Iron in your weak
mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cyrus Iran

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May 13, 2001, 7:08:44 PM5/13/01
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Terrorist Khomeini's Hezbollahi followers are too stupid to understand that
there is NOTHING they can do to stop the exchange of information. The stone
age Hezbollahi morons are engaged in a another idiotic scheme that will
backfire. LOL!!!!

Payandeh Iran
Cyrus


>Subject: Re: Tehran police crack down on Internet, 400 cybercafes closed:
>paper
>From: "Peacock" <blue_p...@hotmail.com>
>Date: Sun, May 13, 2001 11:32 EDT

Yek Irani

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"Cyrus Iran" <cyru...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Terrorist Khomeini's Hezbollahi followers are too stupid to understand
that
> there is NOTHING they can do to stop the exchange of information. The
stone
> age Hezbollahi morons are engaged in a another idiotic scheme that will
> backfire. LOL!!!!
>
> Payandeh Iran

Cyrus jAn I second every thing you said and add humbly

pAyandeh Iran bA hezArAn Internet Cafe

Yek Irani

Peacock

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May 14, 2001, 12:26:05 AM5/14/01
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The only way to reform IRI is to get rid of it and all its pan-arabic so
called leaders. Reforms actually prolong their death. The harder they are,
the quicker they die. We have 50% of the population under 24 years of age
with no future. These kinds of action will just fuel their anger for this
regime! GO IRI GO!!!

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Peacock

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May 14, 2001, 12:26:43 AM5/14/01
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Kind of like the Nazi book burning fiasco.

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Cyrus Iran

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May 14, 2001, 1:22:27 AM5/14/01
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I agree Yek jAn.

>Subject: Re: Tehran police crack down on Internet, 400 cybercafes closed:
>paper

>From: "Yek Irani" <YekI...@ee.net>
>Date: Sun, May 13, 2001 21:20 EDT

Night23

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May 14, 2001, 1:30:38 AM5/14/01
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May I ask - what is the translation of the word jAn?

I translate it in my language to mean "life".


Cyrus Iran wrote:
>
> I agree Yek jAn.

m_maleki

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"La6red9nec" <la6re...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20010513164142...@ng-xb1.aol.com...

> >Subject: Re: Tehran police crack down on Internet, 400 cybercafes closed:
> >paper
> >From: "Yek Irani" YekI...@ee.net
> >Date: 5/13/2001 5:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time
> >Message-id: <TxvL6.189$RK4.3887@news>
> >
> >What else can you expect from a government that is run by kherghe pooshAne
> >mAfeeyAyee.
> >
>
> HAHHAAHAH!
> This aldang(idiot) was until recently in denial that there are any internet
> cafes in Iran and now he condemns closing the,:))))))))))))
> reedam beh ghabreh dadasheh shahidet!!!!!!!!!!
>
>

in kuni mage mige dAdAdesh shahid shodeh? mitarsam yeki
yeruz begire khode in kuniro shahid-koneh :)

m_maleki

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May 14, 2001, 1:35:42 AM5/14/01
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How recent is this raid? Just yesterday I received
email sent to me from a cybercafe in Tehran.

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Cyrus Iran

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The meaning of jAn depends on the context. In this case it is a term used
among friends meaning "dear."

>Subject: Re: Tehran police crack down on Internet, 400 cybercafes closed:
>paper

>From: Night23 <nig...@nightynight.com>
>Date: Mon, May 14, 2001 01:30 EDT

La6red9nec

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>Subject: Re: Tehran police crack down on Internet, 400 cybercafes closed:
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>From: "m_maleki" m_ma...@netzero.net
>Date: 5/13/01 10:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <9dnqs2$j7opq$1...@ID-20678.news.dfncis.de>

>
>How recent is this raid? Just yesterday I received
>email sent to me from a cybercafe in Tehran.
>

I think they started putting them out of buisness last week. But there are at
least 1000 of these cafes in Tehran annd other cities so it will take sometime
to shut them all down.
Once they regulate them they will have to apply for a license and then get back
into the internet buisness.

Night23

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May 14, 2001, 2:40:32 PM5/14/01
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Almost certainly a lie. For if they wanted to stop people from using
internet telephony, they would have simply passed a law, confiscated
telephony equipment, issued a fine to anyone caught violating the law or
threaten shut-down of individual cafes.

But then, sacrifices have to be made to keep the dim-witted hooked on
islam.

La6red9nec

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>paper
>From: "m_maleki" m_ma...@netzero.net
>Date: 5/13/01 10:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <9dnqi2$ijd9j$1...@ID-20678.news.dfncis.de>

>
>
>"La6red9nec" <la6re...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:20010513164142...@ng-xb1.aol.com...
>> >Subject: Re: Tehran police crack down on Internet, 400 cybercafes closed:
>> >paper
>> >From: "Yek Irani" YekI...@ee.net
>> >Date: 5/13/2001 5:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>> >Message-id: <TxvL6.189$RK4.3887@news>
>> >
>> >What else can you expect from a government that is run by kherghe pooshAne
>> >mAfeeyAyee.
>> >
>>
>> HAHHAAHAH!
>> This aldang(idiot) was until recently in denial that there are any internet
>> cafes in Iran and now he condemns closing the,:))))))))))))
>> reedam beh ghabreh dadasheh shahidet!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>
>in kuni mage mige dAdAdesh shahid shodeh? mitarsam yeki
>yeruz begire khode in kuniro shahid-koneh :)
>

SO he claims :)))))
The aldang(idiot) is good for entertainment value and a better punching
bag!!!!!!!!

La6red9nec

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>Subject: Re: Tehran police crack down on Internet, 400 cybercafes closed:
>paper
>From: Night23 nig...@nightynight.com
>Date: 5/14/01 11:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3B002753...@nightynight.com>

>
>Almost certainly a lie. For if they wanted to stop people from using
>internet telephony, they would have simply passed a law, confiscated
>telephony equipment, issued a fine to anyone caught violating the law or
>threaten shut-down of individual cafes.
>

Holy Cow!!!!!!!!!
YOu still no understand krishna :))))))
There is no equipment to confiscate, they sit in front of a terminal and dial a
phone number overseas, a piece of pie, really!!!!
I guess that kind of technology hasn't reach the Bovine worshiping lands of
yours!!!!!!!!

Night23

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May 14, 2001, 3:39:28 PM5/14/01
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La6red9nec wrote:
> There is no equipment to confiscate, they sit in front of a terminal and dial a
> phone number overseas, a piece of pie, really!!!!

And talk to the other person how - through their ass?

Intenet telephony does require eqipment. i.e. microphone,
headset/speakers and possibly a videocam. People don't sit in front of a
screen like a monkey and expect to start a conversation. Or maybe you
do. Another brainless mullah.

La6red9nec

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>Date: 5/14/01 12:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3B003523...@nightynight.com>


Dude, that's not equipment. They come with every cheapo computer.

Here is a picture for you Krishna so you may see the light, haleluja or ummm
ppac paca :)))))))))))))))))

http://www.iranmania.com/news/currentaffairs/images/330internetcafe01.jpg

Night23

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May 14, 2001, 10:36:45 PM5/14/01
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Well "Imam larry", last I checked devices that come with computers are
pieces of equipment.

Just admit it your're wrong.

Peacock

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May 14, 2001, 11:12:19 PM5/14/01
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Of course it's a lie. They want to restrict access to information; after
all, the mafia that runs Iran runs it based on keeping people in the dark
and feeding them shit (mushroom treatment).

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m_maleki

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"La6red9nec" <la6re...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20010514142456...@ng-mq1.aol.com...

> >Subject: Re: Tehran police crack down on Internet, 400 cybercafes closed:
> >paper
> >From: "m_maleki" m_ma...@netzero.net
> >Date: 5/13/01 10:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time
> >Message-id: <9dnqs2$j7opq$1...@ID-20678.news.dfncis.de>
> >
> >How recent is this raid? Just yesterday I received
> >email sent to me from a cybercafe in Tehran.
> >
>
> I think they started putting them out of buisness last week. But there are at
> least 1000 of these cafes in Tehran annd other cities so it will take sometime
> to shut them all down.
> Once they regulate them they will have to apply for a license and then get back
> into the internet buisness.
>
>

In other words government wants a cut in the revenue.

Well, I doubt they ever could "regulate" BBS. So there'll
always be room to breathe freely and without paying anything.
It needs nothing but regular phone lines and ordinary computers.
And it's free. Even the software that's involved is free, Spitfire,
etc, ... All sorts of cyber communities (but limited in
geographical sense to the area of local calls) can develop and
I doubt government could do anything about it. They cannot watch
people's phone lines day and night.

However the intelligence caught Baha'is a few years back
using it to create and entrap new proselytes. I still don't know
how they managed that. Perhaps a Baha'i let the word out
(AghA behesh nomreye khub nadAdebude lAbod).

La6red9nec

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>Date: 5/14/01 10:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <9dqgja$jcgau$1...@ID-20678.news.dfncis.de>

Sure they can. Same way YOU CAN NOT CALL IRAN(or any overseas places) using the
internet from the USA. DO you know why? Well the phone companies will be losing
millions if that happens :))))))))
If free flow of infomation is so sacred why don't SPRINT let me talk to Iran
from my Internet connection!?!?!?!?!? But Iran allows the reverse, kinda ironic
don't you think!?!?!?!? ANd the SJDG was saying Iran is affraid of internet,
AHAHAH!
At any rate this is a temporary action until they license them and regulate
them.
In fact PTT is denying any involvement:


***********

PTT denies any role in clamp down on cybercafes
Tehran, May 15, IRNA -- Director General of the Public Relations
Department at Ministry of Post, Telegraph and Telephone (PTT) Farhad
Sepahram said here Tuesday that his ministry had had no role in recent
closure of cybercafes.
Sepahram said that PTT considers it as its duty to support legal
development of the communications sector.
He said Internet cafes had been closed by police on the basis of a
decision made by relevant authorities.
He added that evidence and information available show that some of
the centers had been closed for not having any permits while others
were closed for receiving repeated warrants for offenses committed
by them.
The official said the ministry is now probing the case so as to
help those rendering online services.
There are rumors that about 40 cybercafes have been closed by
police in recent days.
Moreover, there are claims that the clampdown on the cafes were
conducted to prevent the access of youth to cybernets.
An informed source at Tehran's police had told daily `Iran' on
Monday that about 250 cybercafes had been told to receive licenses
for their activities from the newly established union of
administrative machines center.
The daily had further quoted the source as saying that just five
internet cafes had been closed in Tehran for failing to receive
permits in the deadline.
No police official has so far commented on the issue despite
repeated contacts by IRNA to receive more information on the closure.
Meanwhile, an official at the Ministry of Post, Telephone and
Telegraph said that the recent closure of several Internet cafes in
Tehran was aimed at controlling materials which did not comply with
the Islamic norms, press said Tuesday.
The Persian daily `Iran' further quoted the unnamed official as
also saying that the PTT did not play any role in those closures.
Reports said recently that some 400 Internet cafes in the capital
Tehran had been closed on grounds that their owners were required to
obtain licenses for their business.
``The move seems to aimed at greater control and supervision on
the activities of Internet cafes, in order to screen materials which
go against Islamic norms,'' the paper cited the source as saying.
``Such controls are implemented for years in many countries and
governments around the world eliminate those Internet outlets which do
not comply with national culture and their policies. Thus, it is
natural such a measure to be taken in our country as well," the
official added.
According to the official, the move was an appropriate one since
it could protect some 400 billion rials (about $400m) of revenues
which the government earns annually by providing long distance
telephone connections.
There are hundreds of Internet cafes in Tehran, providing cheap
overseas phone connections.
The PTT intends to legalize these activities in order to protect
both the rights of the owners and those of the government, `Iran'
cited the official as saying. The government was not seeking monopoly
on long distance calls, it added.
An official at the Tehran police headquarters was also quoted as
saying that some 250 Internet cafes throughout Tehran had been served
notice to acquire license for their business.
`Iran' cited the official as saying that only five cafes had been
closed for not having licenses.

La6red9nec

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>From: Night23 nig...@nightynight.com
>Date: 5/14/01 7:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3B0096F1...@nightynight.com>

>
>Well "Imam larry", last I checked devices that come with computers are
>pieces of equipment.
>
>Just admit it your're wrong.
>


Holly cow!!!!!!!!!
Dear Krishna I am wrong all the time if that really makes you happy :))))))

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