"We've got him!"
Maarten Wiltink
ones with a fast response time here? Is _anybody_ _ever_ going to
Mention The War?
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
Bjørn Tore Sund
> Come on guys, it's been over eight hours! Are the lurkers the only
> ones with a fast response time here? Is _anybody_ _ever_ going to
> Mention The War?
War? Hadn't you heard? There hasn't been war for months!
Bjørn
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Peter Corlett
> Come on guys, it's been over eight hours!
*checks* Yep, that's about the last time I had a caffeine hit.
> Are the lurkers the only ones with a fast response time here?
True, I'm slowing down, time for another hit.
> Is _anybody_ _ever_ going to Mention The War?
Would that be the War Against People's Rights and Freedoms?
Dan Birchall
> Maarten Wiltink <usene...@mfw.dds.nl> wrote:
> > Come on guys, it's been over eight hours!
Well, after staying up 'til 0230 local to watch the live news conference
that was supposed to be at 0200 local... "over eight hours" very accurately
describes how much sleep I got.
My two observations:
1. Lucky Iraqi Bastards, rid of *their* particular warmongering megalomaniac
who did things that harmed his own subjects.
2. I knew I'd seen Adnan Pachachi before... took me a few seconds, but then
I realized he was cast as "Waldorf" on The Muppet Show.
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Geoff Lane
> Come on guys, it's been over eight hours! Are the lurkers the only
> ones with a fast response time here? Is _anybody_ _ever_ going to
> Mention The War?
DON'T MENTION THE WAR!
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Matt Palmer
> Come on guys, it's been over eight hours! Are the lurkers the only
> ones with a fast response time here? Is _anybody_ _ever_ going to
> Mention The War?
I dunno, from the photos I've just seen, it looks like they've managed to
capture Gandalf.
- Matt
Robin Munn
> Come on guys, it's been over eight hours! Are the lurkers the only
> ones with a fast response time here? Is _anybody_ _ever_ going to
> Mention The War?
Well, as a semi-sort-of-lurker, I'll speak up and say that a) I only
found out this morning, and b) I do have other things to do than read
the Monastery. (Yeah, yeah, I know, heresy and all that. So what? You
got a problem with that, take it over there -> to a.s.n-n).
But this is Very Good News, and noises are that we will Do The Right
Thing and hand him over to the Iraqis for trial.
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Satya
[there's got to be a way to tell slrn "fsck you, I know the line's over
80, post it anyway!"]
> Come on guys, it's been over eight hours! Are the lurkers the only
> ones with a fast response time here? Is _anybody_ _ever_ going to
> Mention The War?
Do we really want to discuss that here?
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David P. Murphy
I don't see it as recovery.
ok
dpm
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Patrick R. Wade
>No, the one on drugs.
>
Hm, we usually think of the War on Drugs as "the war to kill/conquer drugs",
i'd never thought of it as "the war under the influence of drugs (perhaps
metaphorically)". Sort of like the *NIX Vendor On Crack...
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st...@madcelt.org
> Come on guys, it's been over eight hours! Are the lurkers the only
> ones with a fast response time here? Is _anybody_ _ever_ going to
> Mention The War?
First thing I said to a workmate this morning "You hear the news?"
His reply "Yeah I saw it on TV last night. They finally caught the fucker!"
Me: "No the IMPORTANT news! Brian Lara took 28 in a single over[1] against
South Africa."
I give it til Lunchtime before I am sick of hearing the same news report.
The GardenGnome has shown his usual level of intelligence by calling for the
death penalty. Despite one of his major party platforms being an opposition
to the death penalty.
[1] 4 fours and 2 sixes
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st...@madcelt.org
> In article <slrnbtpm2a....@dyret.mi.uib.no>,
> =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Tore Sund <bjo...@ii.uib.no> wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:36:15 +0100, Maarten Wiltink wrote:
>> > Come on guys, it's been over eight hours! Are the lurkers the only
>> > ones with a fast response time here? Is _anybody_ _ever_ going to
>> > Mention The War?
>>
>> War? Hadn't you heard? There hasn't been war for months!
> More like 60 years for the US.
But what about the WarOnDrugs ?
Omri Schwarz
> In article <slrnbtpqg4...@gort.thesatya.com>,
> Satya wrote:
> > On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:36:15 +0100, Maarten Wiltink
> > <maa...@kittensandcats.net> wrote:
> > [there's got to be a way to tell slrn "fsck you, I know the line's over
> > 80, post it anyway!"]
>
> Sounds like you need a newer slrn, then.
>
> >> Come on guys, it's been over eight hours! Are the lurkers the only
> >> ones with a fast response time here? Is _anybody_ _ever_ going to
> >> Mention The War?
>
> > Do we really want to discuss that here?
>
> I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it.
>
> News reports say that little Sad was disorientated when he got out.
> What's the betting that the US forces dropped some knockout gas down
> the air vent?
What air vent?
Look like he was making his own knocout gas in
that pit.
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Garrett Wollman
<st...@madcelt.org> wrote:
>The GardenGnome has shown his usual level of intelligence by calling for the
>death penalty.
You know, he would probably fit in reasonably well as governor of
Montana or some such. But if we take him, you lot have to agree to
take Murdoch back....
-GAWollman
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Kevin
<maa...@kittensandcats.net> wrote:
>Come on guys, it's been over eight hours! Are the lurkers the only
>ones with a fast response time here? Is _anybody_ _ever_ going to
>Mention The War?
I haven't read much yet about the American casualties due to the capture,
specifically the injuries to the Dean, Kerry, Lieberman, Gephardt, and Clark
presidential campaigns.
Of course there is still plenty of time for more Bush administration
foul-ups and more terrorist actions, but this capture will pop some Democrat
whiner bubbles. It will be interesting to see if there is a long-term
decline or increase in terrorist attacks.
Maybe the Iraqi "authorities" can beat some details out of Saddam such as
the location of Weapons of Mass Destruction, French industrial contract
kickbacks, who to talk to at Halliburton for a "really good deal", how to
get hold of his terrorist buddies - especially Bin Laden - and if he has any
serious stashes of cash left.
Kevin
Patrick R. Wade
>On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:36:15 +0100, "Maarten Wiltink"
><maa...@kittensandcats.net> wrote:
>
>>Come on guys, it's been over eight hours! Are the lurkers the only
>>ones with a fast response time here? Is _anybody_ _ever_ going to
>>Mention The War?
>
>I haven't read much yet about the American casualties due to the capture,
>specifically the injuries to the Dean, Kerry, Lieberman, Gephardt, and Clark
>presidential campaigns.
>
This is about as well-timed as possible for them; they have most of
a year to let the electorate calm down. In the mean time they can
start saying things like "Remember Afghanistan? That other place?
It's still there..." and "what exactly is a 'jobless recovery' supposed
to mean?". It might be enough to salvage Lieberman's primary campaign
against Dean.
Oddly enough, i was just contemplating Friday night over a round of
Laphroaig over how the Capture Of Saddam could be best played out
by the Bushies ; it should have gone down Halloween 2004, and Saddam
should have suffered brain damage like the Warden in "The Moon Is A
Harsh Mistress". That way, he couldn't say embarrassing things like
"the only WMDs i ever owned were the ones Rumsfeld sold me during
the Reagan Administration (cue handshake photo)". He could likewise
be parked in a high-security hospice and rot, rather than being
the Glorious Martyred Pancho Villa Of The East.
>It will be interesting to see if there is a long-term
>decline or increase in terrorist attacks.
>
That will be the interesting part.
>Maybe the Iraqi "authorities" can beat some details out of Saddam such as
>the location of Weapons of Mass Destruction,
"Used up shooting them off against Iran." I have to wonder if his own
advisers were telling him the truth or rather what he wanted to hear.
It would appear from what we've heard about the fate of his sons that
the fall of Baghdad was a genuine surprise to them.
I also very much doubt Iraqi authorities will be allowed alone in a
room with Saddam ; we can never tell who might be leftover Baathists.
>French industrial contract kickbacks, who to talk to at Halliburton for a
> "really good deal",
Probably his accountants would know the details better than he.
>how to
>get hold of his terrorist buddies - especially Bin Laden -
Whatever Saddam's relation to anti-US terrorists, it seems pretty clear
by now that Bin Laden was never Saddam's "buddy", and considered him
a symptom of the Moral Decline Foisted Upon Muslims By The West ;
The Enemy Of My Enemy Is My Other Enemy. Moreover, any information Saddam
had about Bin Laden's whereabouts is months out of date, as both of them
have been on the run for some time.
>and if he has any
>serious stashes of cash left.
>
That could be tricky too. There are presumably accounts somewhere with
the booty in them, but at this point the bankers may be inclined to ascribe
them to some other Mr. Hussein who seems to have fallen off the earth,
or perhaps to just make them quietly disappear.
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Jim
> Come on guys, it's been over eight hours! Are the lurkers the only
> ones with a fast response time here? Is _anybody_ _ever_ going to
> Mention The War?
NOOOOOOoooobody expects the....bugger, wrong response...
Jim
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Dan Birchall
I found significant similarities in tonsorial styling between the "just
arrested" photos of Saddam and the Unabomber. Perhaps there's someone
who roves the world styling the infamous. Sort of a "stylist to the
stars" only more bastardly.
Dan Birchall
> My two observations:
>
> 1. Lucky Iraqi Bastards, rid of *their* particular warmongering megalomaniac
> who did things that harmed his own subjects.
>
> 2. I knew I'd seen Adnan Pachachi before... took me a few seconds, but then
> I realized he was cast as "Waldorf" on The Muppet Show.
Er, forgot one.
3. I don't feel like the world has gotten even the tiniest bit safer in
the last day. Of course, this is partly based upon feeling that
Saddam posed about as much threat to anyone, anymore, as Uday or Qusay.
But more so, it's based on the feeling that there's been a zero-sum
shift of power from one person who I perceive as not being terribly
interested in honoring laws, treaties, and generally being nice to
other humans... to another person who I perceive similarly.
Suresh Ramasubramanian
> Me: "No the IMPORTANT news! Brian Lara took 28 in a single over[1] against
> South Africa."
Damn. Missing something like that is what comes of being stuck in an arid
wilderness like Boston that doesn't have cricket.
srs
Chris Suslowicz
"Maarten Wiltink" <maa...@kittensandcats.net> wrote:
> Come on guys, it's been over eight hours! Are the lurkers the only
> ones with a fast response time here? Is _anybody_ _ever_ going to
> Mention The War?
Stubberfield is old news.
Chris.
Mike Looney
> In article <slrnbtpm2a....@dyret.mi.uib.no>,
>=?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Tore Sund <bjo...@ii.uib.no> wrote:
>> > Come on guys, it's been over eight hours! Are the lurkers the only
>> > ones with a fast response time here? Is _anybody_ _ever_ going to
>> > Mention The War?
>>
>> War? Hadn't you heard? There hasn't been war for months!
>
>
Depends on what you call a war. The Republic of Panama did
declare war on the US, so we have been in a declared war
post 1945.
Of course Congress did declare war, with all the paperwork
on International Terror post 9/11/2001
Contrary to what some people have said here, a congressinal
resolution, passed by both houses of congress _is_ how
you declare war.
Also, Bush just said "end of major combat operations", He didn't
say the war was over.
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Mike Looney
>> But what about the WarOnDrugs ?
>
> entity after December 8, 1942.
>
Well, depends. They did pass something that said it was a Declaration of War post
Sept 11.
And I assume you mean 1941 there, and you mean Dec 11 (Germany and Italy)
Mike Looney
> On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 01:24:17 GMT, ebe...@tampabay.ARE-ARE.com.unmunge
> (Hactar) wrote:
>
>>I don't believe Congress ever issued a Declaration of War on a particular
>>entity after December 8, 1942.
>
> A rather interesting "off by one" error.
>
And off by 3 as well.
Mike Looney
> In article <3fdd0532$0$1739$5a62...@freenews.iinet.net.au>,
> <st...@madcelt.org> wrote:
>
>>The GardenGnome has shown his usual level of intelligence by calling for the
>>death penalty.
>
> You know, he would probably fit in reasonably well as governor of
> Montana or some such. But if we take him, you lot have to agree to
> take Murdoch back....
All all of his spawn off my TV set.
LooseChanj
<sat...@satyaonline.cjb.net> made the sensational claim that:
> [there's got to be a way to tell slrn "fsck you, I know the line's over
> 80, post it anyway!"]
I just hit "f".
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Scott Packard
> But more so, it's based on the feeling that there's been a zero-sum
> shift of power from one person who I perceive as not being terribly
> interested in honoring laws, treaties, and generally being nice to
> other humans... to another person who I perceive similarly.
Um, Bill's been out of office for a few years now, and your perception
of George W. is unrealistic. If you had said John Ashcroft, well....
Scott Packard
> In <3fdcd7cf$0$209$e4fe...@news.xs4all.nl>, Maarten Wiltink
> <maa...@kittensandcats.net> said
>>Come on guys, it's been over eight hours! Are the lurkers the only
>>ones with a fast response time here? Is _anybody_ _ever_ going to
>>Mention The War?
>
> <Basil Fawlty>
> Don't mention the War. I mentioned it once but I think I got away with
> it.
> </Basil Fawlty>
Exactly what I was thinking :)
Jeff Ramsey
Where the body of Jimmy Hoffa can be found, who killed the Limburg baby,
why does the PS driver I got from RICOH not work on my copier, but an
HPLJ4 b/w driver work fine?
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> mj...@hezmatt.org (Matt Palmer) wrote:
>> Maarten Wiltink is of the opinion:
>> > Come on guys, it's been over eight hours! Are the lurkers the only
>> > ones with a fast response time here? Is _anybody_ _ever_ going to
>> > Mention The War?
>>
>> I dunno, from the photos I've just seen, it looks like they've
>> managed to capture Gandalf.
>
> I found significant similarities in tonsorial styling between the
> "just arrested" photos of Saddam and the Unabomber. Perhaps there's
> someone who roves the world styling the infamous. Sort of a "stylist
> to the stars" only more bastardly.
>
My father has an employee who is strikingly similar to the man in those
photos. We printed one out this morning and put it by his truck with a D
O A sign. OTOH, he does look very much like the anti-santa, does he not?
--
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Douglas Henke
> First thing I said to a workmate this morning "You hear the news?"
Fuck them, and fuck you. And I mean that in the strongest possible way.
Unless you live under a rock, you're swimming in a sea of time-
sensitive data. Using my own -- admittedly meagre -- news-exposure
habits as an example, at any given instant there are probably over a
thousand different expansions of "the news" for which the answer to
your MADDENINGLY VAGUE AND DELIBERATELY IRRITATING query is "yes", and
an indeterminate but obviously much larger number for which the answer
is "no".
I can think of no occassion, including tyrants being captured or
killed, outbreak or cessation of war, disasters manmade or natural, or
any other conceivable activity, event or condition which might
possibly make such a question unambiguous enough to be relevant.
Yeah, I heard the fucking news: the sun just exploded and we all have
17 minutes left to live, and you've just wasted one of them with a
conversational gambit which accomplishes absolutely goddamn nothing
other than to let you listen to the drone of your own voice.
No, I haven't heard the news. I'm an ignorant troglodyte who has no
ability or desire to be aware of the world around me. How happy I am
that someone as well-informed as yourself is about to take pity and
cure me of my ignorance.
Exactly what answer do you want or expect to a question like that? Is
there some point in making the poor bastard you've chosen as your
target say something like "Depends; what specific news do you mean?"
before you tell them what you're talking about? Does it get your rocks
off? Are you in some kind of inane scavenger hunt where you get points
for it?
Want to tell me that they captured Saddam Hussein, or that the price
of pork belly futures is up a quarter point, or that someone's
discovered how to create a high-efficiency synthetic coolant from the
charred corpses of MSN users? Fine, just come right out and tell
me. It isn't hard. If I already know, I'll say so, and you'll have
wasted less of my time than if you'd forced me to engage in a
pointless content-free verbal dance before arriving at exactly the
same point.
Better yet, why not just assume that I read the papers, and watch the
news, and listen to the radio, and browse news sites on the web? Sit
down and have a nice cup of shut the fuck up, unless you happen to
know something that rates very highly on all of the "obscure",
"interesting" and "timely" scales, and/or you have some personal
opinion or insight to offer.
Stephan Schulz
sure you want to followup? [Y]es, No, Cancel" and I thought "Hell, no!
Keep out of this!". It allowed my to continue nevertheless.
In article <1njqtvoh8ejensjlr...@4ax.com>, Kevin wrote:
[...]
>Maybe the Iraqi "authorities" can beat some details out of Saddam
Maybe we can act like we are the Good Ones (tm) instead of just
talking big.
>such as
>the location of Weapons of Mass Destruction,
Bruhahahaha!
>French industrial contract
>kickbacks, who to talk to at Halliburton for a "really good deal", how to
>get hold of his terrorist buddies - especially Bin Laden
See todays User Friendly. Sadam and Bush have a lot more in common
than Sadam and bin Laden. This is a statement of fact, not opinion.
[...]
Bye,
Stephan
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
at 12:49 AM, st...@madcelt.org said:
>The GardenGnome has shown his usual level of intelligence by calling
>for the death penalty. Despite one of his major party platforms being
>an opposition to the death penalty.
What, you thought that the US had a momopoly on lyingt politicians?
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
at 10:35 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <sur...@frodo.hserus.net> said:
>Damn. Missing something like that is what comes of being stuck in an
>arid wilderness like Boston that doesn't have cricket.
I knew there must be something good about Boston.
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
at 01:32 PM, Mike Looney <mlo...@cox.net> said:
>Of course Congress did declare war, with all the paperwork on
>International Terror post 9/11/2001
No.
>Contrary to what some people have said here, a congressinal
>resolution, passed by both houses of congress _is_ how you declare
>war.
No. A declaration of war is a legal document and is not the same
thing as what Congress passed.
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
at 01:40 PM, Mike Looney <mlo...@cox.net> said:
>Well, depends. They did pass something that said it was a
>Declaration of War post Sept 11.
No.
Patrick R. Wade
wrote:
Bill was very interested in being nice to other humans, at least ones
without Y chromosomes...
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> In <brkd66$2n0$1...@allhats.xcski.com>, on 12/15/2003
> at 01:32 PM, Mike Looney <mlo...@cox.net> said:
>
>>Of course Congress did declare war, with all the paperwork on
>>International Terror post 9/11/2001
>
> No.
>
>>Contrary to what some people have said here, a congressinal
>>resolution, passed by both houses of congress _is_ how you declare
>>war.
>
> No. A declaration of war is a legal document and is not the same
> thing as what Congress passed.
>
All section 8 of Article one says is "
To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;
To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;
To provide and maintain a navy;
To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;
To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
"
No where does it say what the damn thing has to look like. It says "Congres has the power to declare war".
Congress did so.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/748211/posts for a short version of the various versions.
Yes, I'm one of those people that hold that saying "That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force" is the same thing as declaring war. The USSC agrees with me, re Gulf War I.
David P. Murphy
> st...@madcelt.org writes:
>> First thing I said to a workmate this morning "You hear the news?"
> Fuck them, and fuck you. And I mean that in the strongest possible way.
>
> Unless you live under a rock, you're swimming in a sea of time-
> sensitive data. Using my own -- admittedly meagre -- news-exposure
> habits as an example, at any given instant there are probably over a
> thousand different expansions of "the news" for which the answer to
> your MADDENINGLY VAGUE AND DELIBERATELY IRRITATING query is "yes", and
> an indeterminate but obviously much larger number for which the answer
> is "no".
I assume your reaction is on the same scale when SWMBO asks you
"would you like to help bring in the groceries?".
ok
dpm
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David P. Murphy
> Maybe the Iraqi "authorities" can beat some details out of Saddam such as
> the location of Weapons of Mass Destruction, French industrial contract
> kickbacks, who to talk to at Halliburton for a "really good deal", how to
> get hold of his terrorist buddies - especially Bin Laden - and if he has any
> serious stashes of cash left.
See, you think you're making a joke, but one guy at my church yesterday
morning was literally cornering people to rant about how THIS was going
to put ALL the questions to REST because NOW we would ABSOLUTELY get the
details on WHERE all of the WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION are.
I could only stare at him. Why the fuck he is so sure that they even
exist in the first place is more than I wanted to know, so I left . . .
but he *is* sure.
Jim
> > First thing I said to a workmate this morning "You hear the news?"
>
> Fuck them, and fuck you. And I mean that in the strongest possible way.
<rest of I've-completely-missed-the-point tirade snipped>
Decaff for *you*, miladdo.
Bruce Tomlin
d...@myths.com (David P. Murphy) wrote:
> See, you think you're making a joke, but one guy at my church yesterday
> morning was literally cornering people to rant about how THIS was going
> to put ALL the questions to REST because NOW we would ABSOLUTELY get the
> details on WHERE all of the WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION are.
"UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this IMPORTANT Information
is ENCOURAGED, ESPECIALLY to COMPUTER BULLETIN BOARDS."
> I could only stare at him. Why the fuck he is so sure that they even
> exist in the first place is more than I wanted to know, so I left . . .
> but he *is* sure.
I think Saddam just _thought_ he had WMD. I mean, he really honestly
believed he did. And a lot of 'em, too. But typical beaureaucracy and
project mismanglement meant that he probably really didn't have anywhere
near as much as he thought he had.
All that resistance to UN inspections was probably due to PHB types who
didn't want it to be known that they didn't really have the WMDs that
they had been paid to make and have. After all, if Saddam did find out
he was being scammed, those guys would have become target practice for
Uday.
It would certainly explain why we've had so much trouble finding
anything solid on the WMD front.
Kevin
>> > ones with a fast response time here? Is _anybody_ _ever_ going to
>> > Mention The War?
>> I dunno, from the photos I've just seen, it looks like they've managed to
>> capture Gandalf.
>I found significant similarities in tonsorial styling between the "just
>arrested" photos of Saddam and the Unabomber. Perhaps there's someone
>who roves the world styling the infamous. Sort of a "stylist to the
>stars" only more bastardly.
Another rule for Evil Overlords... Always stash a couple of disposable Bic
razors and a bar of soap in the bugout bag. Nobody will recognize you if you
spend 10 minutes a day cleaning up in the bus station restroom.
>Is it surprising that somebody who's been running from the largest
>military in the world for eight months hasn't had time for proper
>grooming? What's with the tendency of certain people to concentrate on
>the appearance of apprehended criminals at the time of their
>apprehension?
It's been so long since the war started that television stations stopped
running file footage of Saddam from before the war. We forgot what he looked
like, hence, the intense interest. Now that he's been captured, we'll have a
week of his face on every tv station and news web site from the film taken
during his cleanup and initial interrogation. We're all slaves to the
media. Even http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage is showing those images.
I guess I should check an infomative site. Off to Fark.com.
Kevin
Douglas Henke
> Douglas Henke <he...@kharendaen.dyndns.org> wrote:
> > [ that which Jim, not unfairly, categorizes as an "I've-completely-
> > missed-the-point tirade" ]
>
> Decaff for *you*, miladdo.
We've covered that. <x6u15y3...@kharendaen.krall.org>.
I don't need that poison any more. I'm pissed off, wired and jittery
on _life_, Jim.
Douglas Henke
> Douglas Henke <he...@kharendaen.dyndns.org> wrote:
> > st...@madcelt.org writes:
> >> First thing I said to a workmate this morning "You hear the news?"
>
> > Fuck them, and fuck you. And I mean that in the strongest possible way.
> > a minimum of a million times worse than Hitler ]
>
> I assume your reaction is on the same scale when SWMBO asks you
> "would you like to help bring in the groceries?".
The latter is a simple and unambiguous question, which (unless I am
engaged in some activity so grim as to make bringing in groceries seem
a welcome relief) can be answered with a simple and polite "No, thank
you." with minimal blood and spittle involved.
This is a different question altogether than "Are you willing to help
me bring in the groceries?" (or more concisely, "Will you help
[...]?").
Framing the request as a question carries the implication that there
is more than one potential reasonable answer. If this is not the case,
then it should be put in words not unlike "Please help me carry in the
groceries."
Fortunately, both SWMBO and myself are believers in the value of
precision in day-to-day communication. The family that chooses words
with care together is the family that avoids needless violence and
gunplay together, is our motto.
Mike Looney
> In article <brkdl5$2n0$2...@allhats.xcski.com>,
> Mike Looney <mlo...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 01:24:17 GMT, Hactar <ebe...@tampabay.ARE-ARE.com.unmunge> wrote:
>> >> But what about the WarOnDrugs ?
>> >
>> > I don't believe Congress ever issued a Declaration of War on a particular
>> > entity after December 8, 1942.
>>
>
>
Yes, and on Dec 11 we returned to favor to Germany and Italy.
Dec 7th, Japan doesn't declare and bomb US soil.
Dec 8th US declares war on Japan
Dec 11th, Germany and Italy declare on the US
Dec 11th, We declare back on Germany.
Scott Packard
Jeff Ramsey
wrote:
> You need to switch from emacs to vi. It's stressing you out.
>
>
I've waited for this argument to come up for so long, but as of right
now, all of my resources are in use. I'll have to take a box seat, and
just read. Go on with the vi VS. emacs megarant.
--
Jeff Ramsey
ramsejc(no-spam)@tubafor.com
Keith A. Glass
USEnet) wrote:
>Stevo staggered into the Black Sun and said:
>>The GardenGnome has shown his usual level of intelligence by calling for the
>>death penalty. Despite one of his major party platforms being an opposition
>>to the death penalty.
>
>I'm thinking that they'll have to let the new Iraqi government try him
>(possibly with assistance from the UN warcrimes judiciary), for two
>reasons: one, to give the new government legitimacy, showing that it has
>the sovereign right to practise high and low justice within its borders,
>and secondly so that Saddam's blood isn't on Western hands.
>
>Ideally Blair and Bush would be talking about an exit strategy from the
>country now too; certainly the work's not over, but they're a huge step
>closer now and they should be seeing daylight at the end of the tunnel.
Actually, they're now talking turnover sometime mid-next year, which
should have most of the troops home by this time next year.. .
Joe Zeff
com> wrote:
>Nobody will recognize you if you
>spend 10 minutes a day cleaning up in the bus station restroom.
N.B.: Be sure when doing this to remove any beard, moustache,
sideburns or other facial hair, and get out in the sun as much as
possible, to equalize the tanning.
--
Joe Zeff
The Guy With the Sideburns
Never give up! Never surrender!
-Galaxy Quest
http://www.lasfs.org http://home.earthlink.net/~sidebrnz
Joe Zeff
<scottp@%hash%.usenet.us.com> wrote:
>You need to switch from emacs to vi. It's stressing you out.
ObHolyWar: Fi on vi! Emacs forever!
--
Joe Zeff
The Guy With the Sideburns
Debating unix flavors in the context of anything Microsoft is like
talking about which ice cream flavor tastes least like sawdust with
turpentine sauce.
http://www.lasfs.org http://home.earthlink.net/~sidebrnz
Nick Dyer
Joe Zeff <the.guy.with....@lasfs.org> wrote:
>On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:50:37 -0800, Scott Packard
><scottp@%hash%.usenet.us.com> wrote:
>
>>You need to switch from emacs to vi. It's stressing you out.
>
>ObHolyWar: Fi on vi! Emacs forever!
Semper vi!
David P. Murphy
> In article <brkdl5$2n0$2...@allhats.xcski.com>,
> Mike Looney <mlo...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 01:24:17 GMT, Hactar <ebe...@tampabay.ARE-ARE.com.unmunge> wrote:
>>> I don't believe Congress ever issued a Declaration of War on a particular
>>> entity after December 8, 1942.
>> And I assume you mean 1941 there, and you mean Dec 11 (Germany and Italy)
> Yes to 1941. And I thought that on December 8, the US declared war on Japan.
You might want to look into curing that forest-trees condition you have.
David P. Murphy
>> I assume your reaction is on the same scale when SWMBO asks you
>> "would you like to help bring in the groceries?".
> The latter is a simple and unambiguous question, which (unless I am
> engaged in some activity so grim as to make bringing in groceries seem
> a welcome relief) can be answered with a simple and polite "No, thank
> you." with minimal blood and spittle involved.
Rarely have I laughed so bitterly as now.
> This is a different question altogether than "Are you willing to help
> me bring in the groceries?" (or more concisely, "Will you help
> [...]?").
Well, sure. We're all quite literal here.
> Framing the request as a question carries the implication that there
> is more than one potential reasonable answer. If this is not the case,
> then it should be put in words not unlike "Please help me carry in the
> groceries."
I'm still right with you, mate, but the lane splits soon . . .
> Fortunately, both SWMBO and myself are believers in the value of
> precision in day-to-day communication. The family that chooses words
> with care together is the family that avoids needless violence and
> gunplay together, is our motto.
Ah, *now* we see the difference. You've got a SWMBO-in-a-million, you do.
Please don't spoil this vision by trying to convince us she *doesn't*
expect you to read her mind. Correctly. First time out. Without prompting.
That would be taking it a bit too far.
david parsons
Juergen Nieveler <juergen.nie...@arcor.de> wrote:
>Mike Looney <mlo...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Of course Congress did declare war, with all the paperwork
>> on International Terror post 9/11/2001
>
>exactly WHO you start a war against? With "WHO" being a specific
>country?
In this case, the duly-appointed government of the United States
decided to simplify things by defining WHO as "everybody else." It
reduces paperwork considerably if the USA realizes that, oh, the
Democratic Party is actually a nest of filthy traitors (which used
to be known as, in a classic example of deceptive phrasing, "ahead
in the polls".)
____
david parsons \bi/ Eastasia will never be safe from our righteous
\/ anger!
st...@madcelt.org
> In article <3fdd0576$0$1739$5a62...@freenews.iinet.net.au>,
> <st...@madcelt.org> wrote:
>> At a random point in time Hactar <ebe...@tampabay.are-are.com.unmunge> blathered insanely:
>> > In article <slrnbtpm2a....@dyret.mi.uib.no>,
>> > =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Tore Sund <bjo...@ii.uib.no> wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:36:15 +0100, Maarten Wiltink wrote:
>> >> > Come on guys, it's been over eight hours! Are the lurkers the only
>> >> > ones with a fast response time here? Is _anybody_ _ever_ going to
>> >> > Mention The War?
>> >>
>>
>> > More like 60 years for the US.
>>
>> But what about the WarOnDrugs ?
> I don't believe Congress ever issued a Declaration of War on a particular
> entity after December 8, 1942.
Well, fine. If you're going to start sullying a usenet discussion with facts
I'm going to have to invoke godwin <g>
--
Stevo st...@madcelt.org
Like most computer techie people, I'll happily spend 6 hours trying to figure
out how to do a 3 hour job in 10 minutes. --Rev. James Cort, ASR
st...@madcelt.org
> In article <3fdd0532$0$1739$5a62...@freenews.iinet.net.au>,
> <st...@madcelt.org> wrote:
>>The GardenGnome has shown his usual level of intelligence by calling for the
>>death penalty.
> You know, he would probably fit in reasonably well as governor of
> Montana or some such. But if we take him, you lot have to agree to
> take Murdoch back....
Now, now, let's not get hasty there. Besides, we're due to go through the election
madness next year so we have a chance of getting rid of him ourselves. Whether
we replace him with someone better or worse is left as an excersize for the reader.
Anyway, you took Murdoch and didn't keep the reciept. You're stuck with him now.
st...@madcelt.org
> st...@madcelt.org [alt.sysadmin.recovery] <15 Dec 2003 00:49:55 GMT>:
>> Me: "No the IMPORTANT news! Brian Lara took 28 in a single over[1] against
>> South Africa."
> Damn. Missing something like that is what comes of being stuck in an arid
> wilderness like Boston that doesn't have cricket.
http://www.cricket.org/ is your friend.
st...@madcelt.org
> In <3fdd0532$0$1739$5a62...@freenews.iinet.net.au>, on 12/15/2003
> at 12:49 AM, st...@madcelt.org said:
>>The GardenGnome has shown his usual level of intelligence by calling
>>for the death penalty. Despite one of his major party platforms being
>>an opposition to the death penalty.
> What, you thought that the US had a momopoly on lyingt politicians?
Of course not. Being a history buff I can list a miriad of different times
$RULER has lied to the people. Earlist recorded one that comes to mind is
when the tomb builders in ancient Egypt went on strike after being promised
their pay, again, and it not turning up. I'm sure there are earlier examples
but, as I said, this is the first one that comes to mind.
Jeff Ramsey
> Jeff Ramsey staggered into the Black Sun and said:
>> Scott Packard wrote:
>>> You need to switch from emacs to vi. It's stressing you out.
>>
>>I've waited for this argument to come up for so long, but as of right
>>now, all of my resources are in use.
>
>
No pun was intended. I use vi, if you must know. The resources reference
was in regards to physical resources, brain power.
--
Jeff Ramsey
ramsejc(no-spam)@tubafor.com
Suresh Ramasubramanian
Oh I know. Nothing, but nothing, beats watching it on a TV. With friends. And
possibly with a lot of $beverage and $munchies of choice at hand.
Certainly watching live score updates or even a streaming feed on a laptop
screen doesn't cut it.
srs
mrob...@worldnet.att.net
>I think Saddam just _thought_ he had WMD. I mean, he really honestly
>believed he did. And a lot of 'em, too. But typical beaureaucracy and
>project mismanglement meant that he probably really didn't have anywhere
>near as much as he thought he had.
There was an AP story about exactly this that ran around 30 Nov / 1 Dec
2003. It was mostly about Iraq's pre-1991 nuclear programs, though.
<google> Here's one copy:
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20031130_518.html
Matt Roberds
David P. Murphy
> st...@madcelt.org [alt.sysadmin.recovery] <16 Dec 2003 00:32:12 GMT>:
>> http://www.cricket.org/ is your friend.
> Oh I know. Nothing, but nothing, beats watching it on a TV.
Watching it in person doesn't?
Matt Palmer
> Suresh Ramasubramanian <sur...@frodo.hserus.net> wrote:
>> st...@madcelt.org [alt.sysadmin.recovery] <16 Dec 2003 00:32:12 GMT>:
>
>>> http://www.cricket.org/ is your friend.
>
>> Oh I know. Nothing, but nothing, beats watching it on a TV.
>
> Watching it in person doesn't?
Apart from corporate boxes and maybe some parts of the members pavilion, the
grounds themselves rarely have air conditioning.
- Matt
Douglas Henke
> You need to switch from emacs to vi. It's stressing you out.
You're absolutely right. Merely being stressed is grossly insufficient.
If I switch editors, I can probably manage quivering psychotic rage with
relatively little effort and the quality of my posts will improve.
The best thing about this argument is that it works just about as well
no matter what editor I'm already using, and no matter what editor you're
proposing I switch to.
Niklas Karlsson
>Mike Looney <mlo...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Of course Congress did declare war, with all the paperwork
>> on International Terror post 9/11/2001
>
>I thought one of the main points of said paperwork was specifying
>exactly WHO you start a war against? With "WHO" being a specific
>country?
The World Health Organisation can be a bit annoying at times, but
declaring war on them is a bit drastic, no?
Niklas
--
"The terms 'lavatory' and 'lava' are both derived from the same root and the
former was named in recognition of the explosively volcanic events therein."
-- parr
Niklas Karlsson
>
>Ideally Blair and Bush would be talking about an exit strategy from the
>country now too; certainly the work's not over, but they're a huge step
>closer now and they should be seeing daylight at the end of the tunnel.
Why did 'Pu239' spring to mind when I read that?
Niklas
--
It seems that he has never known the simple joy of taking [...] a deviant
AlphaServer out to the middle of the company courtyard, opening it ever so
gently, and then releasing one's own foulness onto the processor's heatsink
while it's still hot. -- Stephen Edwards
Suresh Ramasubramanian
And the crowds in a world cup final are far, far larger than you would see in
the average world series (hah, a set of games between club sides?) or superbowl
final.
Yeah, actually watching it in a ground is fun, if you can stand the heat, and
the huge distance that separates you from beer (the police tend to ban food and
drinks being carried into the stadium seats in India at least, because lusers
have the habit of throwing them onto the field, or even starting fights with
broken bottles)
srs
Robin Munn
> In <pan.2003.12.15.22.50.37.759639@%hash%.usenet.us.com> Scott Packard
> wrote:
>> You need to switch from emacs to vi. It's stressing you out.
>>
>>
>
> I've waited for this argument to come up for so long, but as of right
> now, all of my resources are in use. I'll have to take a box seat, and
> just read. Go on with the vi VS. emacs megarant.
*Shrug*. Actually, the extent that I care about the argument is that I
don't much like Lisp and therefore find emacs mildly annoying to use,
which is why I switched to vi a long time ago. Now, of course, vi is
burned into my fingers to the point that I find myself typing <Esc>:w to
save my work even when I'm *not* using vi.
Now if you want a _heated_ flamewar, we could try tabs vs. spaces for
indentation, on which my opinion is that someone should invent a time
machine to go back in time and sterilize the grandparents of anyone who
thinks tabs are a good idea for indentation. Now _that_ would be a fun
little flamefest. But vi vs. emacs? Boring.
--
Robin Munn
rm...@pobox.com
Ignatios Souvatzis
> Well, that's all very civilized, but supposing the US hadn't declared war
> on 11th? That would have made the Axis powers look pretty stupid, eh?
There's a somewhat similar situation in "Asterix and the Brits":
"Where are you going? We're fighting a war against you!" - "sorry, teatime".
(or "sorry, weekend").
To which Caesar responds by only attacking after 5 o'clock or on weekends.
-is
Douglas Henke
> [ "Do you want to tote that barge?" is not the same as "Are you
> willing to lift that bale?" ]
>
> Well, sure. We're all quite literal here.
Hardly. If we were being painfully literal-minded, then these would be
purely hypothetical enquiries regarding mental state, carrying no
implicit invitations nor requests.
It's not as though SWMBO and I have exchanges like:
"Will you help me free my hair from the electric screwdriver?"
"Yes."
"Then please do so at your earliest convenience."
No jury in the world would convict her, were I to miss the implicit
request in the initial question.
But "Do you want to... ?" implies an invitation, not a demand. If you
want to be understood, be specific.
> Please don't spoil this vision by trying to convince us she
> *doesn't* expect you to read her mind. Correctly. First time out.
> Without prompting. That would be taking it a bit too far.
ObMil: "Why didn't you get me a wormery? I dropped enough hints."
Anyway, simple mind-reading would be a mediocre showing at best.
Anticipating and fulfilling most desires before the thought exists in
a form suitable for mind-reading is a minimum acceptable standard of
performance.
Patrick R. Wade
wrote:
>
>Yeah, actually watching it in a ground is fun, if you can stand the heat, and
>the huge distance that separates you from beer (the police tend to ban food and
>drinks being carried into the stadium seats in India at least, because lusers
>have the habit of throwing them onto the field, or even starting fights with
>broken bottles)
>
The .us solution is to sell "beer"[0] in flimsy plastic cups, as well as
other food items worthy of C.M.O.T. Dibbler[1]. They may be thrown onto the
periphery of the field, but it is of little consequence.
[0] You can get drinkable beer if you try, but it costs a Lot More than
the already overly-marked-up pissbeer
[1] In fairness, there are better items in some parks. You can get
passable sushi at Safeco Field.
--
"That time in Seattle... was a nightmare. I came out of it dead broke,
without a house, without anything except a girlfriend and a knowledge of
UNIX." "Well, that's something," Avi says. "Normally those two are
mutually exclusive." --Neal Stephenson, "Cryptonomicon"
Jeremy Billones
Patrick R. Wade <pa...@efn.org> wrote:
>Oddly enough, i was just contemplating Friday night over a round of
>Laphroaig over how the Capture Of Saddam could be best played out
>by the Bushies ; it should have gone down Halloween 2004...
That's what they're saving bin Laden's body for.
--
Jeremy Billones
"Discussion is for the wise or the helpless and I am neither."
Suresh Ramasubramanian
> The .us solution is to sell "beer"[0] in flimsy plastic cups, as well as
> other food items worthy of C.M.O.T. Dibbler[1]. They may be thrown onto the
> periphery of the field, but it is of little consequence.
Ah, but you have to remember that cricket has fielders (kind of like catchers
in baseball) spread all over the field, including several "in the deep" - that
is, around the periphery of the field. Deep fielders don't exactly like having
greasy paper wrappings that once held onion bhajis, or used paper cups, falling
on them.
Some cricket fields in India have even gone and erected a chain link fence to
separate the worse parts of the crowd (the cheapest seats) from the stadium.
Quite understandable that the deep field gets a lot of attention, when you
consider that the maximum runs possible off a single ball (4 and 6) involve
the batsman hitting the ball across the rope that marks the periphery of the
field (6 if the ball doesn't bounce on the way to the ropes, 4 if it bounces
even once).
Especially when Lara hit four fours and two sixes in an over (6 balls), as some
other monk has been kind enough to inform me in a previous posting to ASR.
srs (who just missed a record breaking India-Australia test) :(
st...@madcelt.org
>> The .us solution is to sell "beer"[0] in flimsy plastic cups, as well as
>> other food items worthy of C.M.O.T. Dibbler[1]. They may be thrown onto the
>> periphery of the field, but it is of little consequence.
> Ah, but you have to remember that cricket has fielders (kind of like catchers
> in baseball) spread all over the field, including several "in the deep" - that
> is, around the periphery of the field. Deep fielders don't exactly like having
> greasy paper wrappings that once held onion bhajis, or used paper cups, falling
> on them.
> Some cricket fields in India have even gone and erected a chain link fence to
> separate the worse parts of the crowd (the cheapest seats) from the stadium.
Part of the reason Merve Hughes used to play with the crowd a bit. Both to break
the monotony for him and for them.
> Quite understandable that the deep field gets a lot of attention, when you
> consider that the maximum runs possible off a single ball (4 and 6) involve
> the batsman hitting the ball across the rope that marks the periphery of the
> field (6 if the ball doesn't bounce on the way to the ropes, 4 if it bounces
> even once).
When you're up against a fast bowler, the slightest nick can go for four. Makes the
deep fielders a wee bit nervous when it's a close game. The poor bastard at
Silly Mid Off is always nervous, so there's no change there.
> Especially when Lara hit four fours and two sixes in an over (6 balls), as some
> other monk has been kind enough to inform me in a previous posting to ASR.
> srs (who just missed a record breaking India-Australia test) :(
India won their first test in .au since 1981. Damn. I didn't realise it had been
THAT long between wins.
gali...@pobox.com
> Quite understandable that the deep field gets a lot of attention, when you
> consider that the maximum runs possible off a single ball (4 and 6) involve
> the batsman hitting the ball across the rope that marks the periphery of the
> field (6 if the ball doesn't bounce on the way to the ropes, 4 if it bounces
> even once).
>
> Especially when Lara hit four fours and two sixes in an over (6 balls), as some
> other monk has been kind enough to inform me in a previous posting to ASR.
Hmmm, no, rot13 does not make it any more, or less, understandable.
OG.
Suresh Ramasubramanian
> Part of the reason Merve Hughes used to play with the crowd a bit. Both to
> break the monotony for him and for them.
That lot was, if anything, a lot better to watch than the current crop of
aussies (good though they are). David Boon, Merv Hughes .. or in other
countries, people like Javed Miandad, Kris Srikkanth / Sunil Gavaskar.
I really miss them - and my wisden yearbook / videotapes are far away in India.
> When you're up against a fast bowler, the slightest nick can go for four.
> Makes the deep fielders a wee bit nervous when it's a close game. The poor
> bastard at Silly Mid Off is always nervous, so there's no change there.
That's for sure. And you get some really good fielding in the deep - I still
remember a match where a ball would have gone for six had Cameron Cuffy (west
Indies fast bowler who was taller than your average NBA basketball star) not
just stretched out his arms at full length and just caught it. If it had been
someone average sized, or even pint sized like Tendulkar, that'd have been one
helluva huge six.
> India won their first test in .au since 1981. Damn. I didn't realise it had
> been THAT long between wins.
Not too many people come to .au and win tests. But damn, this is sweet after
the last thrashing y'all handed us out during the world cup final.
Suresh Ramasubramanian
> Hmmm, no, rot13 does not make it any more, or less, understandable.
Pity :(
TimC
>
> India won their first test in .au since 1981. Damn. I didn't realise it had been
> THAT long between wins.
Getting darn monotonous too. It's good when the .auians are stuck with
a few unfit players. There's then a chance someone else will win and
break the monotony.
> Like most computer techie people, I'll happily spend 6 hours trying to figure
> out how to do a 3 hour job in 10 minutes. --Rev. James Cort, ASR
Oooh. Didn't see that one. Like muchly. I've spent the last week
optimising some of my code to get a factor of 1000 (don't ask) out of
it (if it ends up working). Of course, this is to save only 10 hours
from the run-time.
--
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
Save the whales. Feed the hungry. Free the software.
Maarten Wiltink
news:slrnbtveqd....@m144.net81-66-86.noos.fr...
Well, it's either a rather expensive ball at 4 pounds 6 shillings, or
a rather cheap one at 4 shillings sixpence. Or a very large one at
4 feet 6 inches, but I don't think that's what he meant.
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
David P. Murphy
Overloaded terminology strikes again. At least baseball made up *some*
new words, such as "homer" and "grand-slam". Then again they reused:
safe
out
ball
walk
steal
strike
single
double
triple
just off the top of my head.
David P. Murphy
>>At least baseball made up *some* new words, such as "homer"
> There _was_ that guy with the Iliad...
Common noun versus proper noun.
Alan J Rosenthal
>Alan J Rosenthal <fl...@dgp.toronto.edu> wrote:
>> There _was_ that guy with the Iliad...
>
>Common noun versus proper noun.
In that case, what does "improper noun" mean?
-- aj "source for the common system administration term, 'alan'" r
D. Joseph Creighton
Dave Barlow <yelm....@sartar.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
}During a perfect moment of peace at 15 Dec 2003 00:49:55 GMT,
}st...@madcelt.org interrupted with:
}
}>First thing I said to a workmate this morning "You hear the news?"
}>His reply "Yeah I saw it on TV last night. They finally caught the fucker!"
}>Me: "No the IMPORTANT news! Brian Lara took 28 in a single over
}
}.sigmonster was very hungry until now. Good .sigmonster.
Can .sigmonsters be fed with actual fortune cookies?
I went for lunch with some friends and got this oddly uncharacteristic
fortune: "Make use of whatever advanced technology is available". I was
rather spooked by it, I must say.
I'm betting this is for Chinese values of "advanced" or "technology."
--
"Ah... there's nothing so welcoming as prolonged, stunned silence."
- Dave the Moose (aka Lucy the Horse's new love), Non Sequitur (8 Dec 2003)
D. Joseph Creighton [ESTP] | Systems Analyst, Database Technologies, IST
Joe_Cr...@UManitoba.CA | University of Manitoba Winnipeg, MB, Canada, eh?
jester
<st...@madcelt.org> wrote:
>
>First thing I said to a workmate this morning "You hear the news?"
>His reply "Yeah I saw it on TV last night. They finally caught the fucker!"
>South Africa."
Actually, looking at the scorecard, maybe he was on to something
(First innings, BC Lara c van Jaarsveld b Nel 202)
--
Andy Brown
God does not play dice with the Universe. -- Albert Einstein.
st...@madcelt.org
>> Part of the reason Merve Hughes used to play with the crowd a bit. Both to
>> break the monotony for him and for them.
> That lot was, if anything, a lot better to watch than the current crop of
> aussies (good though they are). David Boon, Merv Hughes .. or in other
> countries, people like Javed Miandad, Kris Srikkanth / Sunil Gavaskar.
Indeed. I remember with a great fondness the classic series of the late 70's
and early 80's. Great players in their prime. Lillee, Marsh, both Chappells,
Richards, Lloyd, Botham, et al.
> I really miss them - and my wisden yearbook / videotapes are far away in India.
>> When you're up against a fast bowler, the slightest nick can go for four.
>> Makes the deep fielders a wee bit nervous when it's a close game. The poor
>> bastard at Silly Mid Off is always nervous, so there's no change there.
> That's for sure. And you get some really good fielding in the deep - I still
> remember a match where a ball would have gone for six had Cameron Cuffy (west
> Indies fast bowler who was taller than your average NBA basketball star) not
> just stretched out his arms at full length and just caught it. If it had been
> someone average sized, or even pint sized like Tendulkar, that'd have been one
> helluva huge six.
And probably the scariest bowler to face[1], Joel Garner. He stood 6' 8" which
meant at full extension the ball was getting lift from something approaching
9', possibly more.
>> India won their first test in .au since 1981. Damn. I didn't realise it had
>> been THAT long between wins.
> Not too many people come to .au and win tests. But damn, this is sweet after
> the last thrashing y'all handed us out during the world cup final.
And as TimC noted down thread, it's becoming damned monotonous all that winning.
The .au-ian team needs a damned good thrashing every now and then to keep them
humble.
[1] with the possible exception of Lillee with the crowd chanting in step with his
run up.
st...@madcelt.org
It's cricket. It's one of those things you need to grow up with to really understand.
Like Vegemite(tm). I could explain it[1] but you still wouldn't grasp it.
[1] The cricket that is, not the Vegemite(tm)[2]
[2] The only way to explain Vegemite(tm) is that it is made from the residue of making
beer[3]
[3] which should give you an understanding of how much most .au-ians love their beer.
st...@madcelt.org
> During a perfect moment of peace at 15 Dec 2003 00:49:55 GMT,
> st...@madcelt.org interrupted with:
>>First thing I said to a workmate this morning "You hear the news?"
>>His reply "Yeah I saw it on TV last night. They finally caught the fucker!"
>>Me: "No the IMPORTANT news! Brian Lara took 28 in a single over
> .sigmonster was very hungry until now. Good .sigmonster.
> ----------------------------------------------
> First thing I said to a workmate this morning "You hear the news?"
> His reply "Yeah I saw it on TV last night. They finally caught the fucker!"
> Me: "No the IMPORTANT news! Brian Lara took 28 in a single over
> St...@madcelt.org, here of course.
Woohoo!
Always an ego boost when you see yourself being sigquoted, especially here.
Not that my ego needs a boost of course. "Ego problem? No mines just fine
thanks."
st...@madcelt.org
> On 15 Dec 2003 00:49:55 GMT, st...@madcelt.org
> <st...@madcelt.org> wrote:
>>
>>First thing I said to a workmate this morning "You hear the news?"
>>His reply "Yeah I saw it on TV last night. They finally caught the fucker!"
>>Me: "No the IMPORTANT news! Brian Lara took 28 in a single over[1] against
>>South Africa."
> Actually, looking at the scorecard, maybe he was on to something
> (First innings, BC Lara c van Jaarsveld b Nel 202)
Nah. that's just Lara in form. There's a reason he's considered one of the
best batsman ever.
Berry Kercheval
> I got a rant for you - almost 60 quoted lines and only one line of content?
> Sheesh. Don't they teach anything at newbie school these days?
Sure. They teach top-posting, and cross-posting, and Cuute Abbrevs
(LOL, OMG!) as well as advanced topics like Chain Letter Forwarding
and Believing in Urban Legends.
Suresh Ramasubramanian
> [1] with the possible exception of Lillee with the crowd chanting in step
> with his run up.
You said it.
Lillee was even scarier when the batsman knew he'd have to face Thommo at
the other end.
Steve Daniels, Seek of Spam
st...@madcelt.org, to say:
>[1] The cricket that is, not the Vegemite(tm)[2]
>[2] The only way to explain Vegemite(tm) is that it is made from the residue of making
> beer[3]
I thought Vegemite was beer with all the alcohol and water
removed.
Niklas Karlsson
> I thought Vegemite was beer with all the alcohol and water
> removed.
Hm. If one were to devise a way to remove the water, but not the
alcohol, would one have a more popular product?
Niklas
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computer history where CPUs became so cheap that it was possible to build an
operating system without adult supervision."
-- Russ Holsclaw in a.f.c
Robin Munn
> In article <slrnbu1rn...@moloch.hellmouth.net>,
> <bo...@hellmouth.net> wrote:
>: On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:16:03 GMT, Robin Munn <rm...@pobox.com> wrote:
>: >But this is Very Good News, and noises are that we will Do The Right
>: >Thing and hand him over to the Iraqis for trial.
>:
>: Seems to me that noises are that they will Do The Rong Thing and
>: hand him over to the Iraqis for trial.
>
> Much greater chance of him being executed that way.
>
> There's nothing Bush likes better than killing people.
Do you believe that Hussein does *not* deserve to be executed?
--
Robin Munn
rm...@pobox.com
vi...@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk
Not until the bugger gets open trial with due process observed. _And_
with judges who would be minimally inclined to honor requests from
special-interests groups of any description.
Like it or not, any trial by current Iraqi administration _will_ be
tainted. It's not a question of final result for Hussein - what's
much more interesting is which questions will and will not be asked.
Joe Zeff
wrote:
>In that case, what does "improper noun" mean?
Q***l, Jvaqbjf, anmv, among others.
--
Joe Zeff
The Guy With the Sideburns
If you can't play with words, what good are they?
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TimC
> Word has it that on Thu, 18 Dec 2003 06:45:39 GMT, in this august forum,
> Robin Munn <rm...@pobox.com> said:
>
>>Dave Brown <dagb...@LART.ca> wrote:
>>> There's nothing Bush likes better than killing people.
>>
>>Do you believe that Hussein does *not* deserve to be executed?
>
> kill them is another question entirely.
>
> My /personal/ opinion is that he does deserve to die, but then I feel
> the same way about Dubya & Howard, for fairly similar reasons.
Hmmm, very well put.
Now of course though, you have just put yourself on several countries
lists of "don't let him in here".
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TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
It has been said that physicists stand on one another's shoulders.
If this is the case, then programmers stand on one another's toes,
and software engineers dig each other's graves. -- Unknown
TimC
> Indeed. I remember with a great fondness the classic series of the late 70's
> and early 80's. Great players in their prime. Lillee, Marsh, both Chappells,
> Richards, Lloyd, Botham, et al.
Remember the name. Don't remember him being in form. Perhaps I am too
young?
--
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
Can you keep your witty comments shorter dude? I can't
make that my sig! --Mary
TimC
>> In article <slrnbtv3rd...@frodo.hserus.net>, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>>> Especially when Lara hit four fours and two sixes in an over (6 balls), as some
>>> other monk has been kind enough to inform me in a previous posting to ASR.
>
>> Hmmm, no, rot13 does not make it any more, or less, understandable.
>
> It's cricket. It's one of those things you need to grow up with to really understand.
> Like Vegemite(tm). I could explain it[1] but you still wouldn't grasp it.
We have a steady stream of international colloborators that visit
here. They always really take to AFL, and we endevour to get them to a
match one weekend.
Fewer of those not from Europe take to cricket, but then again, we
have fewer visitors in summer.
However, until lastweek, about a quarter of our researchers were from
England. They are fun to troll.
--
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
But it does move!
-- Galileo Galilei
TimC
Which is why I don't like it? Makes sense.
--
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
Octopuses don't like astro turf much. That's a *great* piece of trivia
to drop into conversations. I must remember it.
-- Lloyd Gilbert in AFAFDA