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Timothy Larson

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Aug 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/9/98
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Hello.
I just spent the last hour+ DLing the 4.5 preview. I don't like it. In
fact, I like it even less than 4.05. Version 4.01 had stable HTML and
CSS rendering. Version 4.05 was very flaky, never doing the same thing
twice, and simple things like centering with CSS screwed up very often.
Now version 4.5 won't even change the color or font of text, in addition
to the problems in 4.05.
Does anyone know where I can get 4.01 for PPC? I've got it for 68k, and I
suppose I could use that, but I'd rather have PPC version for my new
machine. I need to be designing some web pages and I need something I
can depend on. If you know where I can get this, please let me know by
email as well.
I hope 4.5 final has the formatting engine nailed down. In my opinion, all
the new features can be put on hold until the essentials work without a
hitch. I hope this doesn't sound too critical, I know all the Netscape and
Mozilla ppl are working hard. I guess I just expected more of such a big
version number increase, even if its just beta.

Tim


Joe Crawford

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Aug 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/9/98
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In article <6qkcqb$4v5$1...@nitrogen.mankato.msus.edu>,
lar...@krypton.mankato.msus.edu (Timothy Larson) wrote:

> Hello.
> I just spent the last hour+ DLing the 4.5 preview. I don't like it. In
> fact, I like it even less than 4.05. Version 4.01 had stable HTML and
> CSS rendering. Version 4.05 was very flaky, never doing the same thing
> twice, and simple things like centering with CSS screwed up very often.
> Now version 4.5 won't even change the color or font of text, in addition
> to the problems in 4.05.

Well - 4.5b1 *does* leave out something major - linked stylesheets don't
work at all. Otherwise, it seems to me the CSS implementation is slightly
better.


> Does anyone know where I can get 4.01 for PPC?

Of course we do. Bookmark ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/
Yes, 4.05 handles linked stylesheets, where the beta does not.


> I've got it for 68k, and I
> suppose I could use that, but I'd rather have PPC version for my new
> machine. I need to be designing some web pages and I need something I
> can depend on.

Right - a beta is not for you then.

> If you know where I can get this, please let me know by
> email as well.
> I hope 4.5 final has the formatting engine nailed down. In my opinion, all
> the new features can be put on hold until the essentials work without a
> hitch.

This I agree with.
On Monday, 10 August 1998, check out http://www.webstandards.org/ for more
information on an effort to get the browser manufacturers to comply with
the standards before adding <LAYER>, <DIV>, <MARQUEE>, <BLINK>, et.al.

I hope this doesn't sound too critical, I know all the Netscape and
> Mozilla ppl are working hard. I guess I just expected more of such a big
> version number increase, even if its just beta.

Well - people have gotten too used to betas. MS released a BOOK + CD that
people could buy of a BETA (aka Preview Release) of Win98. (And Preview
Release is such a nice euphemism, yes? Makes you think it's almost *there*
- but it's not. A beta is a beta.

Okay, I'm rambling.

Joe

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Karl J. von Laudermann

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Aug 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/10/98
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In article <artlung-0908...@we-24-130-58-214.we.mediaone.net>,

Joe Crawford <art...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>This I agree with.
>On Monday, 10 August 1998, check out http://www.webstandards.org/ for more
>information on an effort to get the browser manufacturers to comply with
>the standards before adding <LAYER>, <DIV>, <MARQUEE>, <BLINK>, et.al.

<DIV> has been in the standard since HTML 2.0, I believe.

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Joe Crawford

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Aug 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/10/98
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In article <6qnjjg$bcl$1...@camelot.ccs.neu.edu>, pen...@ccs.neu.edu (Karl
J. von Laudermann) wrote:

> >On Monday, 10 August 1998, check out http://www.webstandards.org/ for more
> >information on an effort to get the browser manufacturers to comply with
> >the standards before adding <LAYER>, <DIV>, <MARQUEE>, <BLINK>, et.al.
>
> <DIV> has been in the standard since HTML 2.0, I believe.

My bad for spewing <DIV> in there amongst the baddies.

Thanks for the correction.

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