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Jms at B5

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Nov 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/19/00
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Just to let folks know...Doug and I have gotten into the situation, and have
been working with both WB and SFC to straighten the situation out. WB has
finally backtracked the problem, and will be taking steps shortly, as in the
coming week or two, to fix it and begin the process of providing new (and
proper) widescreen copies.

There will be some delay on the physical delivery of the tapes, because the
original prints are all in cold storage, and you literally have to allow them
time to defrost before you can run them through, and then there's the
duplication time involved...and we haven't yet determined if new copies will be
provided from S2 ep 1 and on in that order, or if they'll try to nail the next
ones up in the airing schedule to get the corrected versions on the air
sooner...but either way, we have been given assurances that the problem is now
being dealt with.

SFC has been very helpful and patient in this situation, and it looks as if
there was an error at the duplicating lab contracted by WB, literally a case of
loading the wrong prints into the system, because the S5 eps are in proper
widescreen, so we're looking at errors in S2-4 only.

To further assure that these errors are not perpetuated, we will have teams of
Democratic and Republican observers present to...oh, wait, sorry, wrong crisis.


jms

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Mac Breck

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Nov 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/19/00
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Thank the Great Maker!

Mac


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ArsenicMan

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Nov 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/19/00
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*60%* of the series, they screwed up!?!?!?!

I would ask if this would affect the non-existent DVDs...

>
> To further assure that these errors are not perpetuated, we will have
teams of
> Democratic and Republican observers present to...oh, wait, sorry, wrong
crisis.
>
>
> jms
>
> (jms...@aol.com)
> (all message content (c) 2000 by
> synthetic worlds, ltd., permission
> to reprint specifically denied to
> SFX Magazine)
>
>
>
>


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Jms at B5

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Nov 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/19/00
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>*60%* of the series, they screwed up!?!?!?!
>
>I would ask if this would affect the non-existent DVDs...

No. Let me repeat: they chose the wrong versions from which to make the
transfers. They stuck the regular prints rather than the lbs copies *that
exist already*. It's not nothing to do with the dvd situation, because the
original widescreen are in the vault, they just pulled the wrong ones for the
SFC transfer (as I understand it).

Paul Smith

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Nov 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/21/00
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Jms at B5 wrote:
>
> Just to let folks know...Doug and I have gotten into the situation, and have
> been working with both WB and SFC to straighten the situation out.
>
> SFC has been very helpful and patient in this situation,


Do you think you could influence SFC to show the episodes in the proper
order?

SFC was asked about this on their bulletin board and they replied that
viewers wanted to see the episodes in the original broadcast order, but
that they were considering showing them in the "jms" order for a future
run.

Somehow, I doubt if they took a vote amongst the viewers to determine
this.

Paul Smith
pts...@indiana.edu


Paul McElligott

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Nov 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/21/00
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In article <3A1AB1ED...@indiana.edu>,

Paul Smith <pts...@indiana.edu> wrote:
>
> Do you think you could influence SFC to show the episodes in the
proper
> order?
>
I'd be happy if they would just fix the sound glitches.

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Jeffrey Gustafson

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Nov 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/21/00
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pts...@indiana.edu (Paul Smith) said:

"SFC was asked about this on their bulletin board and they replied that
viewers wanted to see the episodes in the original broadcast order, but
that they were considering showing them in the "jms" order for a future
run."

The JMS order is the "proper" order. As the series was originally
broadcast, some episodes were jumbled up by the networks. The JMS
order, which can be found on the Lurker's Guide, fixes continuity and
timeline glitches, and when B5 is viewed in the "intended Straczynski
order," the overall story flows nicer, and makes more sense, etc Be
glad Sci-Fi showing it in the JMS order.


-The Jeff

Sheridan:"So how did you find out all of this?"
Bester:"I'm a telepath. Work it out." <*>

Claudia Mastroianni

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Nov 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/21/00
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Jeffrey Gustafson <Psico...@webtv.net> wrote:
: The JMS order is the "proper" order. As the series was originally

: broadcast, some episodes were jumbled up by the networks. The JMS
: order, which can be found on the Lurker's Guide, fixes continuity and
: timeline glitches, and when B5 is viewed in the "intended Straczynski
: order," the overall story flows nicer, and makes more sense, etc Be
: glad Sci-Fi showing it in the JMS order.

Um. Last I checked, they're not, they're showing it in broadcast order.
I'm compiling my tapes in JMS order and I had to keep TKO around for
several days to put it in its proper place.

Claudia
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"A little bit of Micronesian goes a long way." -- David Brudnoy, WBZ

Jeffrey Gustafson

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Nov 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/22/00
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cma...@fas.harvard.edu (Claudia Mastroianni) said:
"Um. Last I checked, they're not, they're showing it in broadcast
order."

The person I was replying to said Sc-Fi had said they were showing it in
the JMS order. I wouldn't know, unfortunately (blasted basic cable.)

"I'm compiling my tapes in JMS order and I had to keep TKO around for
several days to put it in its proper place."

The garbage?

"'A little bit of Micronesian goes a long way.' -- David Brudnoy, WBZ"

WBZ in Boston?

mr. bester

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Nov 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/23/00
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Thanks for the info.

I hope its fix for the 3rd season I know it will be close since theres
only 2 weeks left till the 2nd season ends.

Tiger Hawk

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Nov 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/23/00
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In article <3A1AB1ED...@indiana.edu>,
Paul Smith <pts...@indiana.edu> wrote:

> Do you think you could influence SFC to show the episodes in
> the proper order?
>

> SFC was asked about this on their bulletin board and they replied that
> viewers wanted to see the episodes in the original broadcast order,
>but that they were considering showing them in the "jms" order for a
>future run.
>

> Somehow, I doubt if they took a vote amongst the viewers to determine
> this.
>
> Paul Smith
> pts...@indiana.edu

Related to this, Lurker's has "Day of the Dead" being shown in its
proper slot, but its original broadcast order was 3 episodes before its
proper slot due to TNT's spring hiatus of B5 for the NBA Playoffs.
Does Sci-Fi know this and will they make an exception to "original
broadcast order" as TNT did when it showed "Day of the Dead" in re-runs?

Tiger Hawk

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"Intelligence has nothing to do with politics." --Londo Mollari,
Babylon 5

Mac Breck

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Nov 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/24/00
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Surely, you jest. Do you think WB will be that responsive? I don't. It's
more likely that it'll be fixed (hopefully, correctly fixed) for the next
run through.

Mac

Claudia Mastroianni

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Nov 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/28/00
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Jeffrey Gustafson <Psico...@webtv.net> wrote:

: cma...@fas.harvard.edu (Claudia?Mastroianni) said:
: "Um. Last I checked, they're not, they're showing it in broadcast
: order."
: The person I was replying to said Sc-Fi had said they were showing it in
: the JMS order. I wouldn't know, unfortunately (blasted basic cable.)

No, he said they were considering doing so in future. The current run
is in original broadcast order, or was last I checked (I gave up about
a week into season 2 and chopped chins). I'm taping again today just
to remind myself how bizarre the cropping is. Then I'll probably go
away again until it's fixed.

I wonder whether the cropping is affecting the ratings. Do the
millions out there even realize, or is it just we most rabid fans?

It would be poor if they didn't give it a second run-through for
some reason, with the proper letterboxing.

: "I'm compiling my tapes in JMS order and I had to keep TKO around for


: several days to put it in its proper place."
: The garbage?

Yeah yeah yeah. Gotta have every bit of my soulful Ivanova, sorry.

: "'A little bit of Micronesian goes a long way.' -- David Brudnoy, WBZ"
: WBZ in Boston?

Yep.

Claudia
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