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Troy Heagy

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Nov 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/6/00
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Joe,

If by some miracle all the planets aligned and hell froze over and the
Sci-Fi Channel decided to renew Crusade.....

What approach would you take? Would you try and pick up the story where TNT
prematurely severed it? Or would you start from scratch with a brand-new
pilot and different cast?

Iain Rae

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The British Heart Foundation would kindly ask you not to post with
subject lines like this as it causes a significant increase in demand
for their services.


--
Iain Rae
Computing Officer
Dept. Civil & Offshore Engineering
Heriot-Watt University


Corun MacAnndra

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Had you engaged your brain before sending this post with the original
subject header? Have a little common sense in future please.

Corun

Paul McElligott

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The Narn Bat Squad has been alerted.

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Trek Barnes

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DON"T DO THAT!

(By that, I meant use a subject line like that)

Thankfully, 911 was on my speed dial so I could be revived...

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Mac Breck

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Iain Rae" <ia...@civ.hw.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: A miracle! Crusade renewed!


> Troy Heagy wrote:
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > If by some miracle all the planets aligned and hell froze over and the
> > Sci-Fi Channel decided to renew Crusade.....
> >
> > What approach would you take? Would you try and pick up the story where
TNT
> > prematurely severed it? Or would you start from scratch with a
brand-new
> > pilot and different cast?
>
>

> The British Heart Foundation would kindly ask you not to post with
> subject lines like this as it causes a significant increase in demand
> for their services.
>
>
> --
> Iain Rae
> Computing Officer
> Dept. Civil & Offshore Engineering
> Heriot-Watt University

Well said! Maybe we can get Mr. Bean (Rowan Atkinson) to give him cardiac
stimulation with normal house current/voltage. :-)

Mac

Jms at B5

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First off, you probably shouldn't put a header on like this, it'll get people
unnecessarily excited. To the second point....

>If by some miracle all the planets aligned and hell froze over and the
>Sci-Fi Channel decided to renew Crusade.....
>
>What approach would you take? Would you try and pick up the story where TNT
>prematurely severed it? Or would you start from scratch with a brand-new
>pilot and different cast?
>

To me, this is not an intellectual exercise. If someone said to you, "So, if
by some miracle of fate you and your girlfriend got together again, what would
you do?" It's an emotional and very personal issue and one doesn't get into
those things unless and until it becomes a reality.

jms

(jms...@aol.com)
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Paul Harper

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On 6 Nov 2000 16:21:09 -0700, "Mac Breck" <macb...@access995.com>
wrote:

>Well said! Maybe we can get Mr. Bean (Rowan Atkinson) to give him cardiac
>stimulation with normal house current/voltage. :-)

450 volt three-phase is in order, I think!

Paul.
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" . . . SFX is a fairly useless publication on just
about every imaginable front. Never have so many jumped-up fanboys done so
little, with so much, for so long." JMS.


Erno Simila

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Jms at B5 <jms...@aol.com> wrote:
> First off, you probably shouldn't put a header on like this, it'll get people
> unnecessarily excited. To the second point....

Phew! Glad to see your heart still pumps... ;-)

--
Erno Similä
For those who like this sort of thing, this is the sort of thing they
like.
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Richard Tibbetts

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"Mac Breck" <macb...@access995.com> wrote:

>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Iain Rae" <ia...@civ.hw.ac.uk>
>Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
>Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 11:21 AM
>Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: A miracle! Crusade renewed!
>
>
>> Troy Heagy wrote:
>> >
>> > Joe,
>> >

>> > If by some miracle all the planets aligned and hell froze over and the
>> > Sci-Fi Channel decided to renew Crusade.....
>> >
>> > What approach would you take? Would you try and pick up the story where
>TNT
>> > prematurely severed it? Or would you start from scratch with a
>brand-new
>> > pilot and different cast?
>>
>>

>> The British Heart Foundation would kindly ask you not to post with
>> subject lines like this as it causes a significant increase in demand
>> for their services.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Iain Rae
>> Computing Officer
>> Dept. Civil & Offshore Engineering
>> Heriot-Watt University
>

>Well said! Maybe we can get Mr. Bean (Rowan Atkinson) to give him cardiac
>stimulation with normal house current/voltage. :-)

European voltage, please 8->
--
Richard Tibbetts
http://www.primepeace.ltd.uk/


Mac Breck

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IIRC, the problem is not the voltage, but rather the current and
*especially* the frequency. 50-60Hz is the worst (best for electrocution).

I was depending of people having seen the Mr. Bean video (can't remember the
title of the skit).

Mac

Mark Private

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ATTN TROY: A Miracle! You win the lottery!

On 6 Nov 2000 07:24:18 -0700, "Troy Heagy" <troy_...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Joe,
>
>If by some miracle all the planets aligned and hell froze over and the
>Sci-Fi Channel decided to renew Crusade.....
>
>What approach would you take? Would you try and pick up the story where TNT
>prematurely severed it? Or would you start from scratch with a brand-new
>pilot and different cast?

Troy,

If by some miracle all the planets aligned and hell froze over and you
did win the lottery.....

What would you do with the money?

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Get it? Got it? Good. - Mark

Richard Tibbetts

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"Mac Breck" <macb...@access995.com> wrote:

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Richard Tibbetts" <ric...@primepeace.ltd.uk>
>Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
>Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 11:16 AM
>Subject: Re: Misleading Headers (was: Re: ATTN JMS: A miracle! Crusade
>renewed!)
>
>
>> "Mac Breck" <macb...@access995.com> wrote:

[...]


>> >Well said! Maybe we can get Mr. Bean (Rowan Atkinson) to give him
>cardiac
>> >stimulation with normal house current/voltage. :-)
>>
>> European voltage, please 8->
>
>IIRC, the problem is not the voltage, but rather the current and
>*especially* the frequency. 50-60Hz is the worst (best for electrocution).

Surely just the current, which (given a body of fixed resistivity) is
proportional to the voltage. Though increasing the frequency would
help penetration into any capacitive areas, I'm not sure there are any
in a human body, as it's all pretty wet.

>
>I was depending of people having seen the Mr. Bean video (can't remember the
>title of the skit).

It's from the movie "Bean".

Iain Rae

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Hmmmm...... how many minutes of TV would $30,000,000 buy?
(not that I'd ever win)

Mac Breck

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Dry skin has a resistance of about 100K Ohms ot 600K Ohms.
Wet skin has a resistance of about 1K Ohms ot 600K Ohms.
Internal, Hand to Foot is 400 to 600 Ohms.
Ear to Ear is about 100 Ohms.

Actually it's more the frequency's ability to mess up the timing in the
heart, and stop it. At 50-60 Hz, over 100mA is usually fatal, while at DC
(0 Hz) it takes over 800mA to be fatal. At 10,000Hz, there is no listing
beyond "Some loss of muscular control" at 80 to 100mA.

Womens bodies are more susceptible to electrical current than a man's, and
the same effect can be produced with 60% of the current.

>From Dalziel, C. F., "Effects of Electric Current on Man", Electrical
Engineering (Feb. 1941).


> >
> >I was depending of people having seen the Mr. Bean video (can't remember
the
> >title of the skit).
>
> It's from the movie "Bean".

No. It's from one of the TV skits. I'll look it up. I have most of 'em.

Mac

Jms at B5

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>Hmmmm...... how many minutes of TV would $30,000,000 buy?

1.25 seasons of Crusade.

Richard Tibbetts

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jms...@aol.com (Jms at B5) wrote:

>>Hmmmm...... how many minutes of TV would $30,000,000 buy?
>
>1.25 seasons of Crusade.

Discount for cash?

Richard Tibbetts

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"Mac Breck" <macb...@access995.com> wrote:

Ah, yes.

>At 50-60 Hz, over 100mA is usually fatal, while at DC
>(0 Hz) it takes over 800mA to be fatal. At 10,000Hz, there is no listing
>beyond "Some loss of muscular control" at 80 to 100mA.
>
>Womens bodies are more susceptible to electrical current than a man's, and
>the same effect can be produced with 60% of the current.
>
>>From Dalziel, C. F., "Effects of Electric Current on Man", Electrical
>Engineering (Feb. 1941).

I bow to your greater knowledge, and *won't* ask what your job is ;-)

>
>
>> >
>> >I was depending of people having seen the Mr. Bean video (can't remember
>the
>> >title of the skit).
>>
>> It's from the movie "Bean".
>
>No. It's from one of the TV skits. I'll look it up. I have most of 'em.

There's also a scene in the movie involving involuntary flying
stimul;ated by a defribble-wibble thingy.

Erno Simila

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Iain Rae <ia...@civ.hw.ac.uk> wrote:
> Hmmmm...... how many minutes of TV would $30,000,000 buy?

> (not that I'd ever win)

You could finance 32 Crusade episodes with that amount of money, since
the average Crusade budget was about 920,000 dollars per episode.
Thank you, you hypothetically generous mammal!

;-)

--
Erno Similä
Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else.


Iain Rae

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Jms at B5 wrote:
>
> >Hmmmm...... how many minutes of TV would $30,000,000 buy?
>
> 1.25 seasons of Crusade.
>
> jms
>
> (jms...@aol.com)
> (all message content (c) 2000 by
> synthetic worlds, ltd., permission
> to reprint specifically denied to
> SFX Magazine)

guess I'd better start buying tickets then ;)

Mac Breck

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Typos fixed! "to" not "ot"

and

"to 600K Ohms" removed from Wet skin line. Sorry, I copied and missed it.

> Dry skin has a resistance of about 100K Ohms to 600K Ohms.
> Wet skin has a resistance of about 1K Ohms.


> Internal, Hand to Foot is 400 to 600 Ohms.
> Ear to Ear is about 100 Ohms.

Mac

Mac Breck

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> >> >> "Mac Breck" <macb...@access995.com> wrote:
> >> [...]
> >> >> >Well said! Maybe we can get Mr. Bean (Rowan Atkinson) to give him
> >> >cardiac
> >> >> >stimulation with normal house current/voltage. :-)
> >> >>
> >> >> European voltage, please 8->
> >> >
> >> >IIRC, the problem is not the voltage, but rather the current and
> >> >*especially* the frequency. 50-60Hz is the worst (best for
> >electrocution).
> >>
> >> Surely just the current, which (given a body of fixed resistivity) is
> >> proportional to the voltage. Though increasing the frequency would
> >> help penetration into any capacitive areas, I'm not sure there are any
> >> in a human body, as it's all pretty wet.
> >
> >Dry skin has a resistance of about 100K Ohms ot 600K Ohms.
> >Wet skin has a resistance of about 1K Ohms ot 600K Ohms.

> >Internal, Hand to Foot is 400 to 600 Ohms.
> >Ear to Ear is about 100 Ohms.
> >
> >Actually it's more the frequency's ability to mess up the timing in the
> >heart, and stop it.
>
> Ah, yes.
>
> >At 50-60 Hz, over 100mA is usually fatal, while at DC
> >(0 Hz) it takes over 800mA to be fatal. At 10,000Hz, there is no
listing
> >beyond "Some loss of muscular control" at 80 to 100mA.
> >
> >Womens bodies are more susceptible to electrical current than a man's,
and
> >the same effect can be produced with 60% of the current.
> >
> >>From Dalziel, C. F., "Effects of Electric Current on Man", Electrical
> >Engineering (Feb. 1941).
>
> I bow to your greater knowledge, and *won't* ask what your job is ;-)


Electrical Engineer, NOT Executioner.


> >> >I was depending of people having seen the Mr. Bean video (can't
remember
> >the
> >> >title of the skit).
> >>
> >> It's from the movie "Bean".
> >
> >No. It's from one of the TV skits. I'll look it up. I have most of
'em.
>
> There's also a scene in the movie involving involuntary flying
> stimul;ated by a defribble-wibble thingy.

Yes, but that was using a device that's intended to be used on humans. I
was speaking of the time he jump-started a guy who'd had a heart attack in
the street. For that, he used two wires he tore out of a street light or
something. He just poked the guy on either side of the ribs with the bare
wires, and the guy flopped around like a frog when he did it. It was the
same skit where he used the ambulance that came to get the guy, to jump
start his Mini and in doing so, ran down the ambulance's battery.

Mac

Richard Tibbetts

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"Mac Breck" <macb...@access995.com> wrote:
[..]
>
>Electrical Engineer, NOT Executioner.

I bet they all say that ;-)

[..]

> I
>was speaking of the time he jump-started a guy who'd had a heart attack in
>the street. For that, he used two wires he tore out of a street light or
>something. He just poked the guy on either side of the ribs with the bare
>wires, and the guy flopped around like a frog when he did it. It was the
>same skit where he used the ambulance that came to get the guy, to jump
>start his Mini and in doing so, ran down the ambulance's battery.

I vaguely recall that now.

Mac Breck

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The Mr. Bean skit is called "Mr. Bean Rides Again" and is on the VHS Tape
called "The Terrible Tales of Mr. Bean" Volume 3.

The description goes "This man has a heart attack at the bus stop, and I try
to jumpstart him from a lamp post, but all goes horribly wrong (shame,
really)."

Mac


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Subject: Re: Misleading Headers (was: Re: ATTN JMS: A miracle! Crusade
renewed!)

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