ATTN JMS: On Comics
Travers Naran
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I just read your "mission statement" for The Amazing Spider-Man on
Psycomics.com. I'm hoping you'll understand that the following is the
highest compliment I can pay to someone who seems to remember that giddy,
electric-feeling an 8-year old has when he picks up his first super-hero
comic. When his eyes falls on the bright, primary colors of the artwork and
opens a Universe that he can call his own that doesn't belong to his
parents, or necessarily to his older siblings. That Universe that to
outsiders appears simple and childish, but holds a hidden depth of maturity
and life-lessons that the older folks just never seemed to see. That
Universe you grow up with and love until is becomes part of the fabric of
your childhood and adolescence.
This is going to sound strange, but it's from the heart and it is the
highest compliment I can give: You make comics that don't suck.
--------
Travers Naran: Computer Programmer & P/T Meddler In Time & Space
New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada, North America, Earth, yada, yada
Jms at B5
At last I have my epitath.
jms
(jms...@aol.com)
(all message content (c) 2000 by
synthetic worlds, ltd., permission
to reprint specifically denied to
SFX Magazine)
JBONETATI
jms>>
Uh...you mean epitaph? I couldn't find the 'th' ending in my dicionaries.
Jan
Christian McNeill
news:20001018213154...@ng-ch1.aol.com...
> <<At last I have my epitath.
>
> jms>>
>
> Uh...you mean epitaph? I couldn't find the 'th' ending in my dicionaries.
It's not nice to make fun of someone with a lisp. :)
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Mac Breck
From: "JBONETATI" <jbon...@aol.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: On Comics
> <<At last I have my epitath.
>
> jms>>
>
> Uh...you mean epitaph? I couldn't find the 'th' ending in my dicionaries.
>
> Jan
JMS is developing a lithp. :-)
Mac
Jms at B5
Rob Perkins
> No, excuse me, it's EPITATH. I got it right, youse guys got it wrong.
Uh, from Merriam-Webster online:
"The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary. Click on a spelling
suggestion below or try again using the Dictionary search box to the right.
"Suggestions for EPITATH:
"1. epitaph
"2. epithet
[etc.]"
Now, I don't have $550 for an OED, second edition, so we could still be
wrong...
Rob
Dwight Williams
>
> No, excuse me, it's EPITATH. I got it right, youse guys got it wrong.
I smell gunleather being cleared, people! :-D
> jms
>
> (jms...@aol.com)
> (all message content (c) 2000 by
> synthetic worlds, ltd., permission
> to reprint specifically denied to
> SFX Magazine)
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JBONETATI
jms>>
Of course. I understand now. I beg your pardon. I'll write to Funk & Wagnalls
and Merriam-Webster immediately and inform them of their error. May I have them
contact you for the correct root and definitions? Perhaps this will do:
Epitath: An online term used to thank a poster for a short, descriptive
compliment suitable for use as rave reviews on comic and book covers. Rarely
applicable to movie and television advertisements. Ex: Raver says "You make
comic books that don't suck." Ravee says "At last I have my epitath."
Possible roots; a warped contraction of the words epitaph and epithet
I truly apologise, I should have known better than to question the Great Maker
(of words <g>)
Jan
(very much in fun, tongue firmly in cheek, just in case anybody can't tell)
Paul Harper
>No, excuse me, it's EPITATH. I got it right, youse guys got it wrong.
To quote Pete Magsig on http://www.compendium.org/knowledge/q27.html
You say 'epitath'. I say 'epitaph'. You say 'electrocardiogram'. I say
'electrocardiograph'. epitath - epitaph. electrocardiogram -
electrocardiograph. Let's call the whole thing off.
and...
Curse the man who carved my tombstone this night, He couldn't even
spell 'epitaph' right.
(why does that second one sound apposite? <grin>)
Paul.
--
A .sig is all well and good, but it's no substitute for a personality
" . . . SFX is a fairly useless publication on just
about every imaginable front. Never have so many jumped-up fanboys done so
little, with so much, for so long." JMS.
Paul Harper
<chri...@quicknet.com.au> wrote:
>"JBONETATI" <jbon...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:20001018213154...@ng-ch1.aol.com...
>> <<At last I have my epitath.
>>
>> jms>>
>>
>> Uh...you mean epitaph? I couldn't find the 'th' ending in my dicionaries.
>
>It's not nice to make fun of someone with a lisp. :)
That would make the epitath [sic] "You make comics that don't thuck"
wouldn't it?
JBONETATI
Paul.>
*wince*
Good one!
Jan
Mac Breck
From: "Dwight Williams" <ad...@freenet.carleton.ca>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 3:09 AM
Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: On Comics
> Jms at B5 wrote:
> >
> > No, excuse me, it's EPITATH. I got it right, youse guys got it wrong.
>
> I smell gunleather being cleared, people! :-D
I left it alone after my post because I thought I heard the footsteps of a
bunch of angry Narn with bats. :-)
Mac
Dave Woon
jms...@aol.com (Jms at B5) wrote:
> No, excuse me, it's EPITATH. I got it right, youse guys got it wrong.
>
>
> (jms...@aol.com)
> (all message content (c) 2000 by
> synthetic worlds, ltd., permission
> to reprint specifically denied to
> SFX Magazine)
Subliminable subtly, or sarkasm?
-- Delen of Mimbar
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Paul Harper
wrote:
>Subliminable subtly, or sarkasm?
Consider yourself slapped. I've got the whole office looking at me now
wondering why I'm tittering!!
Christian Smith
>I'm tittering!!
Titter ye not!
diidy man!
Christian
--
"Every new beginning is some other beginnings end..."
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Jms at B5
I've always harbored the sneaky suspicion that every so often, there's a
dimensional shift, and the only way you can tell is that there are slight
differences in language that surface one day out of nowhere.
Like...remember when John Chancellor's name was pronounced with an -er sound at
the end? Then suddenly, one day, everybody was saying John ChancellOR, with a
big OR at the end...when the hell did THAT happen?
And all my life, it's been "weekend," said with even stress on both
syllables...now it seems like everybody is saying "weekEND," the more British
pronunciation...
"REPutable" has just become "rePUTable" in many conversations, all at once.
And now this...this EPITATH thing.
Look...all my life, I've seen, heard, and read it as epitath. Not epitaph,
which I can't even SAY for chrissakes! Now all of a sudden it isn't even in
the DICTIONARY?!
It's another friggin' dimensional shift, I'm telling you.
But this one wasn't complete...I did a web search, and even though the word
isn't in the dictionary, by god there are still several THOUSAND references to
it on the webs, that THEY haven't gotten to yet.
There's the Tombstone Epitath, at
http://www.magweb.com/sample/stomb/subtomb.htm
A reference to Ben Franklin's epitath at
http://www.usd.edu/~jwortham/franklin.html
There's an epitath GENERATOR at
http://users.ev1.net/~alchemy/fun/genflame.html
But here...here's the smoking gun...when you do a search on epitath, one of the
listings is
http://hometown.aol.com/juggtackle/authors.htm
which is noteworthy because it shows up in the search when you type epitath,
but when you get there...IT'S EPITAPH!
I swear, there was a dimensional shift in the middle of the night, and it's
still rolling through, and it's NOT MY FAULT.
THE UNIVERSE IS FUCKING WITH ME AGAIN.
Christ on a crutch...next thing you people are going to tell me the Beatles
broke up and the *Who* stayed together....
Christian McNeill
> I swear, there was a dimensional shift in the middle of the night, and
it's
> still rolling through, and it's NOT MY FAULT.
>
> THE UNIVERSE IS FUCKING WITH ME AGAIN.
>
> Christ on a crutch...next thing you people are going to tell me the
Beatles
> broke up and the *Who* stayed together....
I think we broke him....
Charles Gregory
> > jms>>
> >
> > Uh...you mean epitaph? I couldn't find the 'th' ending in my dicionaries.
> JMS is developing a lithp. :-)
> Mac
>
> jms
Merriam-Webster Online got it wrong too. Darned sloppy of them.... :)
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=dictionary&va=epitath
The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary. Click on a spelling
suggestion below or try again using the Dictionary search box to the
right.
Suggestions for epitath:
1. epitaph
2. epithet
3. epithets
...SNIPPED
- Charles
Rob Hayward
<jms...@aol.com> writes
>No, excuse me, it's EPITATH. I got it right, youse guys got it wrong.
>
> jms
Oxford English dictionary (concise) gives it as epitaph. Epitath does
not appear.
This is confirmed by Lotus Wordpro and Microsoft Word - oh and this
email spell checker (Turnpike)
--
Rob
We eat for the one, we drink for the one.
,
,
,
We get fat for the one
JBONETATI
but when you get there...IT'S EPITAPH! >>
Well, sheesh, you think we, er, THEY can rewrite everything all at once??
<<THE UNIVERSE IS FUCKING WITH ME AGAIN.>>
Is it as good for you as it is for us? <g>
<<Christ on a crutch...next thing you people are going to tell me the Beatles
broke up and the *Who* stayed together....
jms>>
Backing away slowly...unthreateningly...hands open and visible...no, no, we
wouldn't tell you that. Absolutely not. Of course even if they hadn't one of
the Beatles is dead now...
Scampers away very quickly,
Jan
Jms at B5
>the Beatles is dead now...
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH RINGO?!
Tammy Smith
You know what, though--I never even knew that epitaph was once spelled
"epitath"!
Maybe we've all been brainwashed! :)
Tammy
Rob Perkins
news:$u8c8HAz...@battleaxe.demon.co.uk...
> In article <20001018222950...@ng-ck1.aol.com>, Jms at B5
> <jms...@aol.com> writes
> >No, excuse me, it's EPITATH. I got it right, youse guys got it wrong.
> >
> > jms
>
> Oxford English dictionary (concise) gives it as epitaph. Epitath does
> not appear.
Doesn't mean it isn't really there. Anyone have access to the full
billion-volume OED?
Rob
Maagic
brick/mortar pipe on the side of your house is pronounced "CHIM-LEY"
instead of "ChimNEY". Also when someone has a noose put around his neck
and the ground is pulled from under his feet how come they say he was
"Hanged" instead of "hung"? Same thing with "lit" and "lighted" People
say "The room was well lighted" which by Valen's name just doesn't SOUND
right... but I digress...
Jms at B5 wrote:
>
> Okay, it's happened again. I'm getting tired of this.
>
> I've always harbored the sneaky suspicion that every so often, there's a
> dimensional shift, and the only way you can tell is that there are slight
> differences in language that surface one day out of nowhere.
>
> Like...remember when John Chancellor's name was pronounced with an -er sound at
> the end? Then suddenly, one day, everybody was saying John ChancellOR, with a
> big OR at the end...when the hell did THAT happen?
>
> And all my life, it's been "weekend," said with even stress on both
> syllables...now it seems like everybody is saying "weekEND," the more British
> pronunciation...
>
--
-Maagic
aka Bryan Foster
Webmaster of the Rick and Bubba Experience
http://www.rickandbubba.net
Gharlane of Eddore
In <20001019183112...@ng-cm1.aol.com>
jms...@aol.com (Jms at B5) writes:
>
> Okay, it's happened again. I'm getting tired of this.
>
What, you mean being wrong? Again?
>
> I've always harbored the sneaky suspicion that every so often, there's
> a dimensional shift, and the only way you can tell is that there are
> slight differences in language that surface one day out of nowhere.
>
Except that this doesn't actually happen. We keep Our Universes Orderly.
>
> Like...remember when John Chancellor's name was pronounced with an -er
> sound at the end? Then suddenly, one day, everybody was saying John
> ChancellOR, with a big OR at the end...when the hell did THAT happen?
>
Roughly around the time that 1" videotape came in, and Chancellor got
a chance to see a delayed tape of one of his broadcasts, and hear how
he was being introduced by subliterate board honchos...
>
> And all my life, it's been "weekend," said with even stress on both
> syllables...now it seems like everybody is saying "weekEND," the more
> British pronunciation...
>
Only in your benightedly "Liberal" Anglophiliac circles; *REAL* people
refer to the Saturn's-Day and Sun's-Day pair as "Sleepdays" or
"Shootingtime," depending on whether the weather is sufficiently
salubrious to justify a trip to the target range.
>
> "REPutable" has just become "rePUTable" in many conversations,
> all at once.
>
No. This has been a standard NooYawkism for many decades.
>
> And now this...this EPITATH thing.
>
You mean "EPITAPH."
>
> Look...all my life, I've seen, heard, and read it as epitath.
> Not epitaph, which I can't even SAY for chrissakes! Now all
> of a sudden it isn't even in the DICTIONARY?!
>
It's just an example of pronunciational lazines; it requires
*minutely* more effort to position the jaw and lower lip to
produce the labiodental fricative to pronounce the "-ph" sound.
( Actually, if your pronunciation were standard, it would be EASIER
for you to say, since you wouldn't need to move your tongue from
the alveolar ridge ( the alveolar stop for the "t" sound ) all
the way forward to touch the teeth for the "th" sound; since
the jaw is already in the right position following the "ih" and
"ah" sounds, you only need to lift the lower lip to dental contact
while pulling the tongue back slightly to form the labiodental
fricative. )
Subliterate slobs who don't have enough vocabulary to *need* to
differentiate between slightly similar words will invariably
default to the easier pronunciation, without reference to the
actual meaning, or even the existence, of the word they choose
to pronounce. In the absence of solid reading instruction,
spoken language evolves and simplifies; think of how the Brit
peasants pared back the language during the Norman era, when
no one was sufficiently literate to maintain Classic Old English
as a stable language. By the time the idjits were done, the
hugely simplifed and crude early form of Middle English was the
default standard; *then* they had to elaborate and expand it
to cope with concepts more abstract than pigs and mud.
>
> It's another < deleted > dimensional shift, I'm telling you.
>
No, it's just another example of your historically-proven
literary ineptitude; a guy who can't even spell "gray" has
no business lecturing on proper spelling, much less dictating
pronunciations. But don't worry, we still respect you hugely.
>
> But this one wasn't complete...I did a web search, and even
> though the word isn't in the dictionary, by < deleted > there are
> still several THOUSAND references to it on the webs, that
> THEY haven't gotten to yet.
>
{gently}, no, Joseph. Those are simply indications of people who
were taught to read by "teachers" subscribing to those same post-war
"liberal education" precepts that obtained in your own schools, and
resulted in your arithmetic and mathematical crippling; and would,
had you not been gifted with native language ability and bull-headed
drives far above the norm, have also left you a subliterate laborer
unfit to be anything but an unemployed steel puddler living in the
shadow of a shut-down steel mill.
>
> There's the Tombstone Epitath, at
> http://www.magweb.com/sample/stomb/subtomb.htm
>
> A reference to Ben Franklin's epitath at
> http://www.usd.edu/~jwortham/franklin.html
>
These are mis-spellings.
>
> There's an epitath GENERATOR at
> http://users.ev1.net/~alchemy/fun/genflame.html
>
No, that's an epitaph generator, created by a programmer.
And we all know what *wonderful* spellers and writers
programmers tend to be....
>
> But here...here's the smoking gun...when you do a search on epitath,
> one of the listings is http://hometown.aol.com/juggtackle/authors.htm
>
> which is noteworthy because it shows up in the search when you type
> epitath, but when you get there...IT'S EPITAPH!
>
Precisely. Someone competent manually put in an address link to get
people to the right site, no matter how crippled their spelling is.
( Another example of this is the classic "HamsterDance" site, which
was originally put up as "HampsterDance" because the lady simply
didn't know how to spell "Hamster." In recent months she got the
"Hamsterdance" URL, and rigged the one to point to the other, and
then RETCONNED the whole situation by stuffing in an "explanation"
that claims a *recently* invented character named "Hampton Hamster"
was the proximate inspiration for the original site, and that the
spelling was correct. It all just depends on your definition of
"Hampster," apparently. )
>
> I swear, there was a dimensional shift in the middle of the night,
> and it's still rolling through, and it's NOT MY FAULT.
>
No, Joseph. The universe doesn't even *notice* this one.
This one YOU did, all by yourself, by doing word-group slop
reading instead of sounding out the words, because no one
ever taught you strongly-linked orthographical analysis
technique when you were in grade school.
Be a man, 'fess up!
>
> THE UNIVERSE IS < deleted > WITH ME AGAIN.
>
It's only fair, after the way you continuously rewrote the laws
of physics, arbitrarily moved around entire stellar systems, and
constantly repositioned the edge of the galaxy, in a mere 110
episodes. You fool with the universe, it fools back, right?
>
> < deleted > on a crutch...next thing you people are going to tell
> me the Beatles broke up and the *Who* stayed together....
>
Actually, this is not the case. The shooting death of one Beatle
was faked, so that he could have plastic surgery and replace one
of the members of "WHO," after the original guy chose to retire
and become a milkman in Keokuk, Iowa; but I can say no more.
> jms
>
> ( jms...@aol.com )
> ( all message content (c) 2000 by
> synthetic worlds, ltd., permission
> to reprint specifically denied to
> SFX Magazine )
>
Note that staffers at "SFX" tend to spell the word at issue as "eppitaf."
When they don't just substitute the phrase "thingie onna toomston."
JBONETATI
jms>>
What? You talkin' to ME? Huh? You TALKIN' to me? Say what? YOU? talkin' to
me???
::sorrowful look a la Dr. McCoy:: Not Ringo. Great Maker, it's John. He's
*dead* , Joe!
<g>
Jan
Rob Levandowski
<r...@battle-axe.org> wrote:
>In article <20001018222950...@ng-ck1.aol.com>, Jms at B5
><jms...@aol.com> writes
>>No, excuse me, it's EPITATH. I got it right, youse guys got it wrong.
>>
>> jms
>
>Oxford English dictionary (concise) gives it as epitaph. Epitath does
>not appear.
Webster's Ninth New Collegiate also lists only "epitaph," and includes
etymology that suggests the "ph" has always been here:
ep*i*taph \'ep-@-,taf\ n [ME _epitaphe_, fr. MF & ML; MF, fr. ML
_epitaphium_, fr. L, funeral oration, fr. Gk _epitaphion_, fr. _epi-_ +
_taphos_ tomb, funeral] (14c)
Translating for the dictionary impaired,
The modern English word "epitaph" is derived from the Middle English
word "epitaphe," which was derived from Middle French and Medieval
Latin. The Middle French word was itself derived from Medieval Latin's
"epitaphium," which came from a Latin word meaning "funeral oration."
That Latin word was taken from the Greek word "epitaphion," a
combination of the prefix "epi-" and the word "taphos," which means a
tomb or funeral. The first known use of "epitaph" was in the 14th
century A.D.
Whoever rewrote history, they did a thorough job :)
--
Rob Levandowski
ro...@macwhiz.com
(Opinions expressed are solely my own and not a statement from my employer)
Pelzo63
>That would make the epitath [sic] "You make comics >that don't thuck"
>wouldn't it?
or maybe "you make comicth that don't thuck"?
..Chris
i always heard it as epitaph <G>
Paul Harper
>paul wrote:
>
>>That would make the epitath [sic] "You make comics >that don't thuck"
>>wouldn't it?
>
>or maybe "you make comicth that don't thuck"?
I thtand corrected.
Paul (who loves it when a plan comes together <grin>)
Paul Harper
>::sorrowful look a la Dr. McCoy:: Not Ringo. Great Maker, it's John. He's
>*dead* , Joe!
Hey, this is JMS you're speaking to here. He'll put on his point
writers hat and we'll have some damn Vorlon interfering again!
Paul.
Mac Breck
From: "Tammy Smith" <gka...@webtv.net>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: On Comics
No, JMS has just put us through the time rift in Sector 14 a few times with
slightly defective stabilizers.
Mac
Mac Breck
From: "Pelzo63" <pel...@aol.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: On Comics
> paul wrote:
>
> >That would make the epitath [sic] "You make comics >that don't thuck"
> >wouldn't it?
>
> or maybe "you make comicth that don't thuck"?
We're going to burn in Narn Bat Hell for this. :-)
Mac
Paul Harper
wrote:
>We're going to burn in Narn Bat Hell for this. :-)
Hope we haven't annoyed anyone.
That would be tho thad.
(Thinkng about it "Thleeping in Light" doesn't quite have the ring to
it that the original did, so it's probably just as well JMS cracked up
after the series had finished)
Harry McDow
> I swear, there was a dimensional shift in the middle of the night, and
it's
> still rolling through, and it's NOT MY FAULT.
Well, thank the maker. I thought it was just me.
> THE UNIVERSE IS FUCKING WITH ME AGAIN.
Well, welcome to the party. I'm stunned that you just now noticed it.
That is its favorite thing to do. Sometimes it is even... well... more
fun. That is a good way to put it, I guess.
> Christ on a crutch...next thing you people are going to tell me the
Beatles
> broke up and the *Who* stayed together....
What?!!
You're joking. Very funny. You almost had me there.... right?
- Harry
____________________________________
Always use the word IMPOSSIBLE with the
greatest caution. - Wernher von Braun
____________________________________
lor...@tala.mede.uic.edu
Rob Levandowski <ro...@macwhiz.com> wrote:
>
>Webster's Ninth New Collegiate also lists only "epitaph," and includes
>etymology that suggests the "ph" has always been here:
>
>Whoever rewrote history, they did a thorough job :)
Exactly the kind of job I'd expect from a Vorlon!
-- Lorrie
Rich Johnston
>>
>This is going to sound strange, but it's from the heart and it is the
>highest compliment I can give: You make comics that don't suck.
>
True. Despite the best efforts of the Rising Stars artists.
Rich Johnston twis...@hotmail.com
All The Rage and Rich's Rumblings at http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com
Ramblings 2000 at http://come.to/ramblings & http://www.twistandshoutcomics.com
Selling lots of comics at http://www.geocities.com/evenwood/sale.html
Steve Fenwick
> THE UNIVERSE IS FUCKING WITH ME AGAIN.
JMS, meet Job. Job, maybe you can give him some pointers?
> Christ on a crutch...next thing you people are going to tell me the
> Beatles
> broke up and the *Who* stayed together....
Beatles? You mean that obscure band from Manchester that went down in an
Avro Jetliner in the late 50's on the way to a show in Dusseldorf? Wow,
I knew you followed obscure rock groups, but that's pretty far afield
even for you!
Steve
--
Steve Fenwick ab...@w0x0f.com
Richard Tibbetts
>On 19 Oct 2000 20:50:01 -0700, pel...@aol.com (Pelzo63) wrote:
>
>>paul wrote:
>>
>>>That would make the epitath [sic] "You make comics >that don't thuck"
>>>wouldn't it?
>>
>>or maybe "you make comicth that don't thuck"?
>
>I thtand corrected.
>
>Paul (who loves it when a plan comes together <grin>)
Hey Paul! Daffy Duck's using your account again!
--
Richard Tibbetts
http://www.primepeace.ltd.uk/
Richard Tibbetts
[...]
>
>THE UNIVERSE IS FUCKING WITH ME AGAIN.
>
Surely you're being epitatical here?
Gharlane of Eddore
In <20001018222950...@ng-ck1.aol.com>, Jms at B5
<jms...@aol.com> writes
>
> No, excuse me, it's EPITATH.
> I got it right, youse guys got it wrong.
> jms
>
*snicker*
"Rob Hayward" <r...@battle-axe.org> wrote in message
news:$u8c8HAz...@battleaxe.demon.co.uk...
>
> Oxford English dictionary (concise) gives it as epitaph.
> Epitath does not appear.
>
In <rNNH5.10704$d5.1...@news1.sttls1.wa.home.com>
"Rob Perkins" <rob_p...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
> Doesn't mean it isn't really there.
> Anyone have access to the full billion-volume OED?
>
Yes. It's not there until the 2073 edition, which contains
the entry, "EPITATH -- malformed variant, circa 2000."
It cites the final resting place of Joseph Michael Straczynski,
the tombstone inscribed:
" EPITAPH? OVER MY DEAD BODY.
IT'S MY EPITATH, AND I'M STICKING TO IT."
( Acknowledgement to "Fossil Freak" at "geocities.com" whose
hilarious posting on the subject first pointed this out. )
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Gharlane of Eddore
Claudia Mastroianni
: Look...all my life, I've seen, heard, and read it as epitath. Not epitaph,
: which I can't even SAY for chrissakes! Now all of a sudden it isn't even in
: the DICTIONARY?!
Nonsense.
We've always been at war with Eurasia.
Sleep well, Joe.
Claudia
--
"In my day, husbands and beds were rarely spoken of in the same breath.
Husbands were taken seriously, as the only real obstacle to sin."
-- Mrs. Fisher, Enchanted April
Kim A. Sommer
>
>dimensional shift, and the only way you can tell is that there are slight
>differences in language that surface one day out of nowhere.
[snip - observations]
>I swear, there was a dimensional shift in the middle of the night, and it's
>still rolling through, and it's NOT MY FAULT.
>
>THE UNIVERSE IS FUCKING WITH ME AGAIN.
>
>Christ on a crutch...next thing you people are going to tell me the Beatles
>broke up and the *Who* stayed together....
Oh drat. He noticed.
Ok folks next time we do this, charm quarks are shifted *last*.
Kim
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Humans do it Better! The Open Directory Project - http://dmoz.org
Gharlane of Eddore
In <20001019183112...@ng-cm1.aol.com>
jms...@aol.com (Jms at B5) writes:
>
> Okay, it's happened again. I'm getting tired of this.
>
What, you mean being wrong? Again?
You *should* be used to it by now....
>
> I've always harbored the sneaky suspicion that every so often, there's
> a dimensional shift, and the only way you can tell is that there are
> slight differences in language that surface one day out of nowhere.
>
Except that this doesn't actually happen. We keep Our Universes Orderly.
>
> Like...remember when John Chancellor's name was pronounced with an -er
> sound at the end? Then suddenly, one day, everybody was saying John
> ChancellOR, with a big OR at the end...when the hell did THAT happen?
>
Roughly around the time that 1" videotape came in, and Chancellor got
a chance to see a delayed tape of one of his broadcasts, and hear how
he was being introduced by subliterate board honchos...
>
> And all my life, it's been "weekend," said with even stress on both
> syllables...now it seems like everybody is saying "weekEND," the more
> British pronunciation...
>
Only in your benightedly "Liberal" Anglophiliac circles; *REAL* people
refer to the Saturn's-Day and Sun's-Day pair as "Sleepdays" or
"Shootingtime," depending on whether the weather is sufficiently
salubrious to justify a trip to the target range.
>
> "REPutable" has just become "rePUTable" in many conversations,
> all at once.
>
No. This has been a standard NooYawkism for many decades.
>
> And now this...this EPITATH thing.
>
You mean "EPITAPH."
>
> Look...all my life, I've seen, heard, and read it as epitath.
> Not epitaph, which I can't even SAY for < deleted > ! Now all
> of a sudden it isn't even in the DICTIONARY?!
>
It's just an example of pronunciational lazines; it requires
*minutely* more effort to position the jaw and lower lip to
produce the labiodental fricative to pronounce the "-ph" sound.
( Actually, if your pronunciation were standard, it would be EASIER
for you to say, since you wouldn't need to move your tongue from
the alveolar ridge ( the alveolar stop for the "t" sound ) all
the way forward to touch the teeth for the "th" sound; since
the jaw is already in the right position following the "ih" and
"ah" sounds, you only need to lift the lower lip to dental contact
while pulling the tongue back slightly to form the labiodental
fricative. YOUR way, you need to move both jaw and tongue, in
opposite directions; more work just to be wrong... )
shadow of a shut-down steel mill. The people responsible for those
references you've just found are, to be polite, "challenged."
They've been crippled by union-run monopolistic "education."
>
> There's the Tombstone Epitath, at
> http://www.magweb.com/sample/stomb/subtomb.htm
>
> A reference to Ben Franklin's epitath at
> http://www.usd.edu/~jwortham/franklin.html
>
These are mis-spellings.
>
> There's an epitath GENERATOR at
> http://users.ev1.net/~alchemy/fun/genflame.html
>
No, that's an epitaph generator, created by a programmer.
And we all know what *wonderful* spellers and writers
programmers tend to be....
>
> But here...here's the smoking gun...when you do a search on epitath,
> one of the listings is http://hometown.aol.com/juggtackle/authors.htm
>
> which is noteworthy because it shows up in the search when you type
> epitath, but when you get there...IT'S EPITAPH!
>
Precisely. Someone competent manually put in an address link to get
people to the right site, no matter how crippled their spelling is.
( A related inverse example is the classic "HamsterDance" site, which
was originally put up as "HampsterDance" because the lady simply
didn't know how to spell "Hamster." In recent months she got the
"Hamsterdance" URL, and rigged the one to point to the other, and
then RETCONNED the whole situation by stuffing in an "explanation"
that claims a *recently* invented character named "Hampton Hamster"
was the proximate inspiration for the original site, and that the
spelling was correct. It all just depends on your definition of
"Hampster," apparently. )
>
> I swear, there was a dimensional shift in the middle of the night,
> and it's still rolling through, and it's NOT MY FAULT.
>
No, Joseph. The universe doesn't even *notice* this one.
This one YOU did, all by yourself, by doing word-group slop
reading instead of sounding out the words, because no one
ever taught you strongly-linked orthographical analysis
technique when you were in grade school.
Be a man, 'fess up!
>
> THE UNIVERSE IS < deleted > WITH ME AGAIN.
>
It's only fair, after the way you continuously rewrote the laws
of physics, arbitrarily moved around entire stellar systems, and
constantly repositioned the edge of the galaxy, in a mere 110
episodes. You fool with the universe, it fools back, right?
>
> < deleted > on a crutch...next thing you people are going to tell
> me the Beatles broke up and the *Who* stayed together....
>
Actually, this is not the case. The shooting death of one Beatle
was faked, so that he could have plastic surgery and replace one
of the members of "WHO," after the original guy chose to retire
and become a milkman in Keokuk, Iowa; but I can say no more.
> jms
>
> ( jms...@aol.com )
> ( all message content (c) 2000 by
> synthetic worlds, ltd., permission
> to reprint specifically denied to
> SFX Magazine )
>
Note that staffers at "SFX" tend to spell the word at issue as "eppitaf."
When they don't just substitute the phrase "thingie onna toomston."
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: Christ on a crutch...next thing you people are going to tell me the Beatles
: broke up and the *Who* stayed together....
Beatles? Who are the Beatles? Maybe he's talking about the Buzzards...
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Gharlane of Eddore
In <20001018204926...@ng-bj1.aol.com>> > You make comics that don't suck.
>
> At last I have my epitath.
>
OBSP: "epitaph."
Could I suggest, as a friendly amendment:
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Jms at B5
>>
>True. Despite the best efforts of the Rising Stars artists.
>
Check out 11, out shortly. The change in inker and colorist has made a
dramatic difference in the look of the book.
jms
(jms...@aol.com)
(all message content (c) 2000 by
Simn...@aol.com
>No, JMS has just put us through the time rift in Sector 14 a few times with
>slightly defective stabilizers.
>
So THAT'S why I keep having this recurring dream. I'm sometime in the future,
and sitting down to watch my HDTV. Coming on screen is the intro for "Babylon
5: The Next Generation". But I always wake up screaming halfway through the
opening credits.
It's an Aaron Spelling show. :-)
Martin "The Mess" Hohner <*> Simn...@aol.com
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RIP The Spectrum Wars 1997-2000...gone but not forgotten
Kay Shapero
JaB> I've always harbored the sneaky suspicion that every so often,
JaB> there's a dimensional shift, and the only way you can tell is that
JaB> there are slight differences in language that surface one day out of
JaB> nowhere.
Been walking in the fog lately? :->
John W. Kennedy
bright coast, and had a proper Ivy League education, instead of the
pitiful mess of popular culture and pseudo-science that passes for
learning out in the howling wilderness that fills all the world west of
the Flumen Delawarensis (saving always the sacred halls of the
University of Chicago), you'd have realized at once that "epitath"
derives from Greek "epi-" (upon) and "tatheis", the 1st aorist passive
participle of "teinein" (to stretch), so that it thus means: "upon that
which was stretched".
Clearly, ones epitath is the symbol which is worn upon the chest of ones
spandex uniform, ee.g., Superman's two fish and Batman's nomikogenic
yellow oval.
--
John W. Kennedy
"How they laugh! 'Tis ever thus with simple folk -- an
accepted wit has but to say 'Pass the mustard,' and they
roar their ribs out!" -- Jack Point
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Before you buy.
Richard Tibbetts
>On 20 Oct 2000 05:11:56 -0700, "Mac Breck" <macb...@access995.com>
>wrote:
>
>>We're going to burn in Narn Bat Hell for this. :-)
>
>Hope we haven't annoyed anyone.
>
>That would be tho thad.
>
>(Thinkng about it "Thleeping in Light" doesn't quite have the ring to
>it that the original did, so it's probably just as well JMS cracked up
>after the series had finished)
...it'th thtill thow thad ;-)
Paul McElligott
> THE UNIVERSE IS FUCKING WITH ME AGAIN.
>
Beatles
> broke up and the *Who* stayed together....
>
>
Who cares about the Beatles? They were just a made-for-TV ripoff of
that great English band, The Monkees.
--
Paul McElligott
---
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1. "Never Get Out of the Boat."
2. "Charlie Doesn't Surf!"
just~pat
> >the Beatles is dead now...
>
> WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH RINGO?!
>
> jms
Not Ringo, it was Paul.
And it turned out to be just a rumour anyway....
--
Pat Luther --- http://www.cs.pdx.edu/~pluther
"...and, when all men are hastening to become either tyrants or slaves,
that is when we make Liberalism the prime bogey."
- Screwtape (C.S. Lewis)
Pelzo63
>That's
>what it's all about!
and i read this exactly as londo is singing the song to draal on tv.
..Chris
Michael J Wise
> Nonsense.
> We've always been at war with Eurasia.
Hmmm. Clock just struck 13.
Aloha mai Nai`a!
--
"Please have your Internet License http://kapu.net/~mjwise/
and Usenet Registration handy..."
Ted Dennison
> Okay, it's happened again. I'm getting tired of this.
>
> Like...remember when John Chancellor's name was pronounced with an -er sound at
> the end? Then suddenly, one day, everybody was saying John ChancellOR, with a
> big OR at the end...when the hell did THAT happen?
My personal favorite was when the pronunciation of the planet Uranus changed to
"Your-uh-nus". The great A. Whitney Brown suggested it was because of all the T.V.
reports of Voyager, since Dan Rather didn't want to tell America that scientists
have discovered icy rings around "your-anus" . :-)
--
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Pelzo63 <pel...@aol.com> wrote:
>>That's
>>what it's all about!
> and i read this exactly as londo is singing the song to draal on tv.
As he did! Or do you mean i misheard it?
Honestly, it lacks something, it's too short. Maybe someone could help
me. Gharlane? >;-)
--
Erno Similä
How do you explain school to a higher intelligence?
-- Elliot, "E.T."
Richard Tibbetts
><<WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH RINGO?!
>
> jms>>
>
>What? You talkin' to ME? Huh? You TALKIN' to me? Say what? YOU? talkin' to
>me???
>
>::sorrowful look a la Dr. McCoy:: Not Ringo. Great Maker, it's John. He's
>*dead* , Joe!
>
<mode voice=tommy lee jones>He ain't dead, he just went home</voice>
Mac Breck
changed to
> "Your-uh-nus". The great A. Whitney Brown suggested it was because of all
the T.V.
> reports of Voyager, since Dan Rather didn't want to tell America that
scientists
> have discovered icy rings around "your-anus" . :-)
LOL! I can just picture Rather trying to deliver the "discovered icy rings
around your-anus" line with a straight face. :-)
Mac
Evan
>> You make comics that don't suck.
> At last I have my epitath.
[And later]
> THE UNIVERSE IS FUCKING WITH ME AGAIN.
Are you sure this shouldn't be your epitaph. err... tath?
:-^
E.
Mac Breck
From: "Jms at B5" <jms...@aol.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: On Comics
snip
> THE UNIVERSE IS FUCKING WITH ME AGAIN.
>
snip
>
> jms
>
> (jms...@aol.com)
> (all message content (c) 2000 by
> synthetic worlds, ltd., permission
> to reprint specifically denied to
> SFX Magazine)
It does that with everybody, all the time. That's it's hobby.
Mac
sprock...@earthlink.net
> >Of course even if they hadn't one of
> >the Beatles is dead now...
>
> WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH RINGO?!
>
No, not Ringo. Paul really *is* dead.
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equal attention to all of them he would never get anything done. The test
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Rich Johnston
says...
>Check out 11, out shortly. The change in inker and colorist has made a
>dramatic difference in the look of the book.
>
I promise I will do. I'm just dubious that the inker and colourist can fix poor
anatomy, poor panel-to-panel transition, poor composition and poor stylistic
ticks without some serious reconstructing the comics from scratch.
But I am, as always an optimist.
Rich Johnston twis...@hotmail.com
All The Rage and Rich's Rumblings at http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com
Ramblings 2000 at http://come.to/ramblings & http://www.twistandshoutcomics.com
Selling lots of comics at http://www.geocities.com/evenwood/sale.html
Douglas
In the UK, here is a couplle
Popular company names
Adidas, at one time pronounced (a-deed-as), now pronounced (a-did-as)
Nestle once pronounced (Nes-ils) now pronounced (Nes-lay)
Then you have corporate stlye doublespeak. It's never, "We're firing 600
staff.", now they say "We're rationalising, or downsizing".
Sounds like trek-style technobabble to me.
Douglas Nicol
Pelzo63
>Adidas, at one time pronounced (a-deed-as), now >pronounced (a-did-as)
>Nestle once pronounced (Nes-ils) now pronounced >(Nes-lay)
here in the US, it's "a-deed-us", with light emphasis on "deed", and "Nes-lee"
with light emphais on "nes"
at least, that's how is' prnounced in every US city, and tv show i've seen(and
yes, that's quite a few cities)
neither has changed as long as i can remember.
i prefer hershey's anyways. <g>
...Chris
yay! another chocolate thread!
Bill Haverberg
wrote:
>This is going to sound strange, but it's from the heart and it is the
>highest compliment I can give: You make comics that don't suck.
>
My ISP kinda has the unofficial slogan "We suck less".
Not surprising, its one of the best in the state :-)
Norm Green still sucks
in_vale...@hotmail.com
jms...@aol.com (Jms at B5) wrote:
> >>highest compliment I can give: You make comics that don't suck.
> >>
>
> a dramatic difference in the look of the book.
Uhm, are they well known in the industry and their names being kept
secret for a surprise?
The new previews catalog is out, and the solicitation for RS #13 still
lists Livesay as inker and Brett Evenas as colourist. I checked Top
Cow's site and it's the same, with February's #14 just listing Zanier
as penciller and no other art info.
Since #11 isn't out yet and doesn't look to be due next week, if at all
possible, it'd be nice to know before making out my RS #13 preorder...
scott tilson.
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http://www.greenmanpress.com/projects/rose/rose.html
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th/jeff_smith_intv.htm
Iain Clark
"Pelzo63" <pel...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20001026003653...@ng-ch1.aol.com...
> douglas wrote:
>
> >Adidas, at one time pronounced (a-deed-as), now >pronounced (a-did-as)
>
> >Nestle once pronounced (Nes-ils) now pronounced >(Nes-lay)
>
> here in the US, it's "a-deed-us", with light emphasis on "deed", and
"Nes-lee"
> with light emphais on "nes"
> at least, that's how is' prnounced in every US city, and tv show i've
seen(and
> yes, that's quite a few cities)
>
> neither has changed as long as i can remember.
>
company names initially, then moving to the correct pronunication as our
culture has become more international recently. I suspect it also makes it
easier to market the same product across several countries simultaneously
without having to change the advert each time. It's the same reason we used
to have Marathons instead of Snickers, Opal Fruits instead of Starbursts,
Treats instead of Peanut M&Ms....etc. etc.
Iain
--
"Signs, portents, dreams...next thing
we'll be reading tea leaves and chicken entrails."
j...@gte.net
Like, people used to be covered WITH blood, or mud, or whatever. All of a
sudden one day everyone is covered IN entrails etc.
patient 4253
--
If you give someone a program, you can frustrate
them for a day. If you teach someone to program,
you can frustrate them for a lifetime.
Stasseman
--
They do not preach that their god will rose them,
a little before the nuts work loose.
Jms at B5 <jms...@aol.com> skrev i inlägg <20001018204926...@ng-bj1.aol.com>...
| > You make comics that don't suck.
|
| At last I have my epitath.
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