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Jms at B5

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Boy, has this been a week....

As most folks know by now, the news about Marvel entrusting me with their
flagship title The Amazing Spiderman broke on the nets Monday/Tuesday. As a
longtime Spidey fan, this is something I'm looking forward to enormously. You
can expect to see the first jms-written issue of TMS probably around March or
April of next year.

On Wednesday Rising Stars 10 came out (and Midnight Nation 2 is due out in 2
weeks).

Also this week...after writing my first pass on the outline for the Rising
Stars feature film (tentatively entitled "Born in Fire"), MGM read the outline,
loved it, had a couple of very smart suggestions...and as of Wednesday, I've
been put to script.

On Thursday, some friendly folks at Warner Bros. asked if they could take up
the banner of my project The World On Fire (formally with Chris Carter) and
take it out in the Spring to sell it as a series.

I also turned in the outline for the pilot TV movie this week, and today,
Friday, was put to script on THAT project as well. With that hurdle passed, I
can now talk a little about it. The network is indeed Showtime, as some have
speculated, with Paramount Television the studio attached, and it's for an
hour-series (debuting with a two-hour pilot movie) slated for their Sci-Fi
Fridays slot. The project is based on an outside source, though I can't yet
comment on that. I'm on as executive producer/show runner. In addition,
feature film director Joe Dante is aboard also as executive producer, and he
will be invaluable in setting the visual and directorial tone of the series.
It's been an absolute pleasure working with Joe, and if we get past the next
few hurdles -- every series has to go through the stages of pilot outline,
pilot script, decision to produce the script and then the go-order on a series,
same as with B5 and every other program -- I'm *really* looking forward to
working with him on the series.

The Rising Stars movie screenplay will probably be turned in sometime middle or
late November; the Showtime TV movie screenplay will probably be turned in
around November 1 for production reasons.

It has been just an *astonishing* week....

jms

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Pål Are Nordal

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Jms at B5 wrote:
>
> In addition,
> feature film director Joe Dante is aboard also as executive producer, and he
> will be invaluable in setting the visual and directorial tone of the series.

You've mentioned a project with him before, but gave the indication that
you'd passed on it... Something make you change your mind? Or is this
something else?

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Rob Perkins

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"Jms at B5" <jms...@aol.com> wrote in message

> It has been just an *astonishing* week....

Sounds like you've paid your dues.

And *Paramount* is the studio for the pay series! It's apparent they don't
hold grudges. :-) Or, is it a different business unit from the ST:DS9 folks?

I look forward to the stories. Now, if only I can talk my family into
getting Showtime...

Rob


Pelzo63

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jmsatb5 wrote:

<long list of stuff snipped>

so, when are you gonna get back to work? and how does this effect
crusa....errr, wait, ignore that.

oh, i wonder who could be at the door.

...chris

Tammy Smith

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That's great, Joe! Can't wait to see the Showtime series--I plan to
subscribe just so I can watch it!

Tammy

JBONETATI

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<<That's great, Joe! Can't wait to see the Showtime series--I plan to
subscribe just so I can watch it!
Tammy>>

When I told my husband that JMS had a series coming out on pay cable he just
smiled and commented "So we're going to be paying more for cable soon, right?"
Smart man.

Jan


Chris Schumacher

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On 30 Sep 2000 09:55:43 -0700, jms...@aol.com (Jms at B5) wrote:

> The project is based on an outside source, though I can't yet

>comment on that. I'm on as executive producer/show runner. In addition,


>feature film director Joe Dante is aboard also as executive producer, and he
>will be invaluable in setting the visual and directorial tone of the series.

>It's been an absolute pleasure working with Joe, and if we get past the next
>few hurdles -- every series has to go through the stages of pilot outline,
>pilot script, decision to produce the script and then the go-order on a series,
>same as with B5 and every other program -- I'm *really* looking forward to
>working with him on the series.

Wow, "Gremlins: The Series"! :)


-==Kensu==-
Eerie, Indiana: The Next Generation.


Jms at B5

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>You've mentioned a project with him before, but gave the indication that
>you'd passed on it... Something make you change your mind?

Yeah, three words: Total Creative Freedom.

Jason Larke

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>>>>> On 30 Sep 2000 09:55:43 -0700, jms...@aol.com (Jms at B5)
>>>>> said:

JaB> On Thursday, some friendly folks at Warner Bros. asked if
JaB> they could take up the banner of my project The World On
JaB> Fire (formally with Chris Carter) and take it out in the
JaB> Spring to sell it as a series.

Tell them "Not until B5 comes out on DVD." :)

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Christian McNeill

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"Jms at B5" <jms...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Boy, has this been a week....
>
> As most folks know by now, the news about Marvel entrusting me with their
> flagship title The Amazing Spiderman broke on the nets Monday/Tuesday. As
a
> longtime Spidey fan, this is something I'm looking forward to enormously.
You
> can expect to see the first jms-written issue of TMS probably around March
or
> April of next year.

I'm a shorttime Spidey Fan, but he's fast becoming my favourite superhero,
moreso now. :)


> On Wednesday Rising Stars 10 came out (and Midnight Nation 2 is due out in
2
> weeks).

Got it. Read it. Blinked. Read it again. Then uttered an expletive.


> I also turned in the outline for the pilot TV movie this week, and today,
> Friday, was put to script on THAT project as well. With that hurdle
passed, I
> can now talk a little about it. The network is indeed Showtime, as some
have
> speculated, with Paramount Television the studio attached, and it's for an
> hour-series (debuting with a two-hour pilot movie) slated for their Sci-Fi

> Fridays slot. The project is based on an outside source, though I can't


yet
> comment on that. I'm on as executive producer/show runner. In addition,
> feature film director Joe Dante is aboard also as executive producer, and
he
> will be invaluable in setting the visual and directorial tone of the
series.
> It's been an absolute pleasure working with Joe, and if we get past the
next
> few hurdles -- every series has to go through the stages of pilot outline,
> pilot script, decision to produce the script and then the go-order on a
series,
> same as with B5 and every other program -- I'm *really* looking forward to
> working with him on the series.

Do you know how this series will make it to Australian screens? Will it
also be a Cable release? Or is that so far in the future that it's not even
a dot yet?


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Pål Are Nordal

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Chris Schumacher wrote:
>
> Eerie, Indiana: The Next Generation.

Somebody already tried that. It was bad.

Pål Are Nordal

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Jms at B5 wrote:
>
> >You've mentioned a project with him before, but gave the indication that
> >you'd passed on it... Something make you change your mind?
>
> Yeah, three words: Total Creative Freedom.

And people say you can't be bought...

Pål Are Nordal

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Christian McNeill wrote:
>
> Do you know how this series will make it to Australian screens? Will it
> also be a Cable release? Or is that so far in the future that it's not even
> a dot yet?

I think the show has to get into production before one starts trying to
sell airing rights to other countries.

LK

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On 2 Oct 2000 09:51:37 -0700, Pål Are Nordal <a_b...@bigfoot.com>
wrote:

>Jms at B5 wrote:
>>
>> >You've mentioned a project with him before, but gave the indication that
>> >you'd passed on it... Something make you change your mind?
>>
>> Yeah, three words: Total Creative Freedom.
>
>And people say you can't be bought...

JMS loves "torturing" people with "what next?" He just can't resist.

LK

Michael J Wise

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Jms at B5 wrote:

> It has been just an *astonishing* week....

I think I speak for just about everybody here in saying that we are SO
happy for you, and are waiting with "Bated" (there, got it right) breath
for all these things to come available for us to enjoy!

So, "BACK TO WORK!" (;-)

When was the last time you had a vacation, BTW?

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Jms at B5

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>Do you know how this series will make it to Australian screens? Will it
>also be a Cable release? Or is that so far in the future that it's not even
>a dot yet?

Those decisions are all way down the road; first gotta get the pilot written.

Tammy Smith

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Christian, I felt the same way when I read Rising Stars #10. Not going
to say anymore--read it, everyone!

Tammy

in_vale...@hotmail.com

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In article <39D8CE70...@bigfoot.com>,
a_b...@bigfoot.com wrote:

> Christian McNeill wrote:
> >
> > Do you know how this series will make it to Australian screens?
> > Will it also be a Cable release? Or is that so far in the future
> > that it's not even a dot yet?
>
> I think the show has to get into production before one starts trying
> to sell airing rights to other countries.

Oh yeah, let nitpicky details like reality intrude on the fun. :)

But since this new SF movie-or-book based tv show with Joe Dante is for
Showtime, I have to ask: do you get their Stargate SG1 and Outer Limits
there?

If yes, odds are probably good, I'd think.

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Pål Are Nordal

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Jms at B5 wrote:
>
> >You've mentioned a project with him before, but gave the indication that
> >you'd passed on it... Something make you change your mind?
>
> Yeah, three words: Total Creative Freedom.

Another thing... No creative notes. No limits on what you're allowed to
show. And (presumably) a lot more money to play around with than the
last time.

Do the poor souls at Paramount know what they've gotten themselves into?

Pål Are Nordal

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in_vale...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> But since this new SF movie-or-book based tv show with Joe Dante is for
> Showtime, I have to ask: do you get their Stargate SG1 and Outer Limits
> there?
>
> If yes, odds are probably good, I'd think.

The network broadcasting it in the US has absolutely no impact on
international airing rights. The studio that owns it may sometimes
package an ratings flop with a sure seller (ensuring that things like
"Space: Above and Beyond" and "First Wave" graces our screens too), but
I doubt that'll be the case here. And SG1 is owned by MGM IIRC.

Jms at B5

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>Another thing... No creative notes. No limits on what you're allowed to
>show. And (presumably) a lot more money to play around with than the
>last time.

Yeah, the projected per-episode budget is quite a bit higher than on Crusade or
B5, and the salary is just a bit over double. I'd been in syndie/basic cable
so long -- ever since Murder, She Wrote -- that I'd kinda forgotten what *real*
networks pay.

It's also going to be nice, in the pilot, to really take things to the wall in
terms of content, something I could never do in syndie or basic cable.

Dan Dassow

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In article <20000929195758...@ng-fq1.aol.com>,

jms...@aol.com (Jms at B5) wrote:
> Boy, has this been a week....

<Tongue-in-cheek mode on>
Joe, you didn't believe us that the clones that we made of you would
come in handy. I hope you are now making productive use of them.
<Tongue-in-cheek mode off>


>
> As most folks know by now, the news about Marvel entrusting me with
their
> flagship title The Amazing Spiderman broke on the nets
Monday/Tuesday. As a
> longtime Spidey fan, this is something I'm looking forward to
enormously. You
> can expect to see the first jms-written issue of TMS probably around
March or
> April of next year.
>

> On Wednesday Rising Stars 10 came out (and Midnight Nation 2 is due
out in 2
> weeks).
>

> Also this week...after writing my first pass on the outline for the
Rising
> Stars feature film (tentatively entitled "Born in Fire"), MGM read
the outline,
> loved it, had a couple of very smart suggestions...and as of
Wednesday, I've
> been put to script.
>

> On Thursday, some friendly folks at Warner Bros. asked if they could
take up
> the banner of my project The World On Fire (formally with Chris
Carter) and
> take it out in the Spring to sell it as a series.

> The Rising Stars movie screenplay will probably be turned in sometime
middle or
> late November; the Showtime TV movie screenplay will probably be
turned in
> around November 1 for production reasons.
>

> It has been just an *astonishing* week....
>

> jms
>
> (jms...@aol.com)
> (all message content (c) 2000 by
> synthetic worlds, ltd., permission
> to reprint specifically denied to
> SFX Magazine)
>
>

Ravnen

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> I also turned in the outline for the pilot TV movie this week, and today,
> Friday, was put to script on THAT project as well. With that hurdle passed, I
> can now talk a little about it. The network is indeed Showtime, as some have
> speculated, with Paramount Television the studio attached, and it's for an
> hour-series (debuting with a two-hour pilot movie) slated for their Sci-Fi
> Fridays slot.

See I knew my psychic ability to pick cable pay channels would come in handy when I
choose Showtime upon installation, despite their lack of quality programming!!

Raven...
...I have NOT read over nine thousand science fiction novels...which makes me even
MORE qualified to make public policy...


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David E. Bath

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In article <20000929195758...@ng-fq1.aol.com>,

jms...@aol.com (Jms at B5) writes:

> I also turned in the outline for the pilot TV movie this week, and today,
> Friday, was put to script on THAT project as well. With that hurdle passed, I
> can now talk a little about it. The network is indeed Showtime, as some have
> speculated, with Paramount Television the studio attached, and it's for an
> hour-series (debuting with a two-hour pilot movie) slated for their Sci-Fi

> Fridays slot. The project is based on an outside source, though I can't yet
> comment on that. I'm on as executive producer/show runner. In addition,
> feature film director Joe Dante is aboard also as executive producer, and he
> will be invaluable in setting the visual and directorial tone of the series.
> It's been an absolute pleasure working with Joe, and if we get past the next
> few hurdles -- every series has to go through the stages of pilot outline,
> pilot script, decision to produce the script and then the go-order on a series,
> same as with B5 and every other program -- I'm *really* looking forward to
> working with him on the series.

This wouldn't be the series mentioned by SciFi Weekly site - Starship
Regulars (that starts in June 2001) - would it? :)

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just~pat

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In article <20001001095136...@ng-md1.aol.com>,

heehee.
I just "upgraded" my cable system to digital so I could get the Sci-Fi
network, then I had to buy a VCR when I discovered that 7pm meant 4pm
out here....and now I'm going to have to get showtime, too....
Boy, JMS is costing me a lot of money :-)

??pat

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Tammy Smith

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What is Starship Regulars, David?

Tammy

Jms at B5

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>This wouldn't be the series mentioned by SciFi Weekly site - Starship
>Regulars (that starts in June 2001) - would it? :)

No.

Hobbs

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Tammy Smith wrote:
>That's great, Joe! Can't wait to see the Showtime series--I plan to
>subscribe just so I can watch it!

Me, too. So I suppose it'll start in ... uh ... late November/early
December? Just how long does the production of a pilot take?


-Lydia
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Michael J. Hennebry

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In article <39D7E657...@bigfoot.com>,
=?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l?= Are Nordal <a_b...@bigfoot.com> wrote:

:Chris Schumacher wrote:
:>
:> Eerie, Indiana: The Next Generation.
:
:Somebody already tried that. It was bad.

Really? How bad was it? Assuming this wasn't humor.
This one rather liked Eerie, Indiana.
The Foreverware episode was especially amusing.

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Michael J. Hennebry

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JMS,

What does "put to script" mean?

In article <20000929195758...@ng-fq1.aol.com>,
Jms at B5 <jms...@aol.com> wrote:
:Also this week...after writing my first pass on the outline for the Rising


:Stars feature film (tentatively entitled "Born in Fire"), MGM read the outline,
:loved it, had a couple of very smart suggestions...and as of Wednesday, I've
:been put to script.

:On Thursday, some friendly folks at Warner Bros. asked if they could take up
:the banner of my project The World On Fire (formally with Chris Carter) and
:take it out in the Spring to sell it as a series.

:
:I also turned in the outline for the pilot TV movie this week, and today,


:Friday, was put to script on THAT project as well. With that hurdle passed, I

BTW,

I can hear the taunts at the TNT-MGM softball game:
"Nyaa, nyaa, nyaa, Joe doesn't have any trouble taking OUR suggestions."

Pål Are Nordal

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"Michael J. Hennebry" wrote:
>
> In article <39D7E657...@bigfoot.com>,
> =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l?= Are Nordal <a_b...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> :Chris Schumacher wrote:
> :>
> :> Eerie, Indiana: The Next Generation.
> :
> :Somebody already tried that. It was bad.
>
> Really? How bad was it? Assuming this wasn't humor.

Didn't feel like watching much of it. The leads were seemingly picked
because of their similarity to the originals, not because of acting
talent, and the plots were dumbed down kids fare.

> This one rather liked Eerie, Indiana.

Me too.

> The Foreverware episode was especially amusing.

I loved the one about the Loosers. Now I know where all my pens go.

David E. Bath

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In article <8211-39...@storefull-133.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,

gka...@webtv.net (Tammy Smith) writes:
> What is Starship Regulars, David?
>
> Tammy


Quoting from Science Fiction Weekly
(http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue179/screen.html)

Starship Regulars Showtime, June 2001
For the first time ever, an animated internet comedy will make
its way to television as a half-hour live-action series. Starship
Regulars is about ordinary working stiffs, both human and other
species, who live on an interplanetary military spaceship. The
deal was struck between Showtime and Icebox.com. Rob LaZebnik
(co-executive producer of The Simpsons) is the co-founder of
Icebox and creator of the series. Starship Regulars is slated to
become part of Showtime's Sci-Friday science fiction programming,
which includes Stargate SG-1.

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