Attn. JMS - What'd You Think of "Mission to Mars" ?
Mac Breck
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I just rented Mission to Mars, and wondered what you thought of it.
Mac
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Simon Paquet
>Didn't see it.
You're smarter than I thought.
Ciao
Simon
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Mac Breck
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Well, I liked it. From the previews that came out during the theatrical
release, I wasn't expecting much, but was pleasantly surprised. I don't
want to get into any spoilers, but IMHO they did the effects very well, the
characters were believable and interesting, as was the plot.
I saw Mission to Mars right after Supernova (both DVD rentals). Supernova,
OTOH, was less believable, although the effects were good too.
I'll buy the Mission to Mars DVD, but not Supernova.
Mac
Frank Springall
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> I just rented Mission to Mars, and wondered what you thought of it.
>
Obviously not while making it.
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Mac Breck
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Well I knew my Monday, September 18, 2000 3:00 PM post was an invitation to
put downs, but do you actually have something specific and substantive to
say?
Mac
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Subject: Re: Attn. JMS - What'd You Think of "Mission to Mars" ?
Mac Breck
put downs, but do you actually have something specific and substantive to
say?
Mac
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Simon Paquet
>> >Didn't see it.
>>
>> You're smarter than I thought.
>
>Well I knew my Monday, September 18, 2000 3:00 PM post was an invitation to
>put downs, but do you actually have something specific and substantive to
>say?
IMO MtM was one of the worst movies of 2000. The special effects were
well done, but that's it IMO.
The characterization of the main characters was poorly done. The script
didn't give the actors the possibility to show, that they can act. Tim
Robbins for example can do much better than that. I saw him in "The
Shawshank Redemption", where he delivered a performance, which would
have deserved an academy award.
Som things were highly illogical, like Tim Robbins rescue mission for
his wife. And the worst thing were the last 20 minutes. I couldn't trust
my eyes. I thought, I was sitting in a poorly done disney movie.
JBehling
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Mac Breck
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Paquet" <simon.s...@gmx.de>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: Attn. JMS - What'd You Think of "Mission to Mars" ?
> On 18 Sep 2000 18:18:44 -0700, Mac Breck wrote:
>
> >> >Didn't see it.
> >>
> >> You're smarter than I thought.
> >
> >Well I knew my Monday, September 18, 2000 3:00 PM post was an invitation
to
> >put downs, but do you actually have something specific and substantive to
> >say?
>
> IMO MtM was one of the worst movies of 2000.
No, that was "Supernova" (and the scenes they wisely left out would have
made it much worse). That ending, and 9th dimensional matter destroying the
universe was made "Mission to Mars" look like a science documentary.
> The special effects were
> well done, but that's it IMO.
> The characterization of the main characters was poorly done. The script
> didn't give the actors the possibility to show, that they can act.
I thought Gary Sinise did a great job, as did Jerry O'Connell, and Don
Cheadle.
> Tim
> Robbins for example can do much better than that. I saw him in "The
> Shawshank Redemption", where he delivered a performance, which would
> have deserved an academy award.
Here, he was just playing a different character than he's played before.
> Some things were highly illogical, like Tim Robbins rescue mission for
> his wife.
Tim Robbins character didn't go on a recsue mission for his wife.
? You mean when his wife went after him? Tried to rescue *him* when *he*
overshot the orbiting resupply module? You want a spouse/significant other
to behave 100% logically in a situation like that, especially when under
time pressure?? Besides, her second idea *almost* worked. He did what he
did (the helmet) because he didn't want her to die coming after him. He
made the decision for her.
The things I find that stretch believability the most are how fast he freeze
dried after he removed his helmet, how fast the fuel froze after it leaked
out of the ruptured fuel line, and how the shard of fuel was able to explode
(oxidize) since it would have had no oxygen to do so (unless the engines
were improperly tuned and were sending out more oxygen than they should
have). If the engines were sending only the correct amount of oxygen to
ensure a complete burn of the fuel, the shard of extra fuel floating aft of
the rocket nozzle should just have melted and been dispersed.
> And the worst thing were the last 20 minutes. I couldn't trust
> my eyes. I thought, I was sitting in a poorly done disney movie.
Did you think 2001 and "The Abyss" were poorly done, too? Was it beyond the
realm of *possibility* for something like this to happen? To me it seems a
reasonable extrapolation of known facts. The face on Mars *has* been
observed. It could be a sign. Nobody will know for sure until we go there.
Who knows what's underneath it, IF anything. It may be a natural rock
formation, but maybe not.
IMHO, some people give this movie a bum rap, just jumping on somebody else's
bandwagon who's already trashing it.
Mac
Michael J Wise
> Didn't see it.
Alot of the scenery was good, the story line was... well, ok.
The acting and some other things (Gary Sinise's face at the end)
were ... non-optimal.
My recomendation: No need to wait for the video.
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UnltdLife
Mostly, though, I found the music at the end to be less than compelling, sort
of a "my heart bleeds for you" violin solo. Didn't work for me.
It may have just been the music that really ruined the last 20 minutes for me.
A Williams or Horner soundtrack may have changed many opinions...
Then again, who knows...
Jason
Tmhodge
well, yes. At least in the case of the Abyss. That one came out of left
field... are you telling me they couldn't come up with anything more
imaginative than a knock-off of Close Encounters + ET? It turned an otherwise
enjoyable movie into a gross dissapointment.
> To me it seems a
>reasonable extrapolation of known facts. The face on Mars *has* been
>observed. It could be a sign.
The "known facts" are that the "face" on Mars is an accident of lighting and
poor pixel resolution. Look at one of the more recent images taken by the Mars
Global Surveyor. It ain't a face.
Mikko Löppönen
"Tmhodge"
> well, yes. At least in the case of the Abyss. That one came out of left
> field... are you telling me they couldn't come up with anything more
> imaginative than a knock-off of Close Encounters + ET? It turned an
otherwise
> enjoyable movie into a gross dissapointment.
Have you seen The Abyss Special Edition? The ending is completely different
especially about the aliens. They don't seem anything like a knock-off.
-ml-