Good B5 News (No, Really!)
Tammy Smith
info:
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2000-04/03/13.00sfc
It's going to be on at 7 PM weeknights. Over the weekend at the Star
Trek Grand Slam Convention, Jerry Doyle said that, if elected, he would
put B5 back on in prime-time. He acts fast, doesn't he (& before he
gets elected!)? :)
This is such great news!!!
Tammy
10 of 10321
I don't currently get Sci-Fi, but it's been an option on my cable lineup if
I wanted to plunk down the cash. Now I will.
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Tammy Smith
sfc.
Sorry about that.
Tammy
Hobbs
Now that it'll be on again (at a better time, I mean), which kind of VHS
tape available in the US is of the best quality? I'd like to tape all the
episodes WB refuses to release in the highest quality so that they will last
(the ones I made when TNT aired the series at 7 pm all those years ago have
deteriorated to a point much faster than I would have liked them to).
Thanks for any help.
Hobbs
Jms at B5
Yes, it is. I'd heard about a week ago that they were in negotiations with WB
to pick up the series reruns, but didn't want to say anything for fear of
jinxing things or screwing up the negotiations.
Suffice to say that I'm most pleased, and am looking forward to seeing the show
finally get a good timeslot and the kind of support that SFC can give.
jms
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did.). Good behavior should be rewarded.
Mac
"Tammy Smith" <gka...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> The Sci-Fi Channel has picked up the B5 reruns! Go to this URL for more
> info:
>
> http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2000-04/03/13.00sfc
>
> It's going to be on at 7 PM weeknights. Over the weekend at the Star
> Trek Grand Slam Convention, Jerry Doyle said that, if elected, he would
> put B5 back on in prime-time. He acts fast, doesn't he (& before he
> gets elected!)? :)
>
> This is such great news!!!
>
> Tammy
Susan Phillips
I recommend SVHS...Maxel T180, to be exact, because you can get four eps
without commercials on them. But of course, this only works if you've got a
Super VHS deck.
Sue
"How can you be anal-retentive if you don't have an anus?"
Bartleby, "Dogma"
Steve Fenwick
censors seem to be brutal with the audio-kill switch on "objectionable"
language; they did a real hatchet job on "Night of the Comet" some months
ago. The really bad part is that they don't over-dub, they just blank the
audio, so it's very noticeable.
Any ideas if they will do this with B5, or if there are any agreements
with WB about this?
Steve
In article <20000404004623...@ng-ba1.aol.com>, jms...@aol.com
(Jms at B5) wrote:
> >This is such great news!!!
>
--
Steve Fenwick ab...@w0x0f.com
Shaz
"Steve Fenwick" <ab...@w0x0f.com> wrote in message
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> This *is* generally excellent news. My only hesitation is that Sci-Fi's
> censors seem to be brutal with the audio-kill switch on "objectionable"
> language; they did a real hatchet job on "Night of the Comet" some months
> ago. The really bad part is that they don't over-dub, they just blank the
> audio, so it's very noticeable.
>
> Any ideas if they will do this with B5, or if there are any agreements
> with WB about this?
>
will be as incomprehensible as it was when shown over here in a kiddie time
slot.
Delenn: <beep>
Franklin: Did she say what I think she said?
Sheridan: She did!
Delenn: <beep>
Apparently, she's a road runner.
Shaz
To...@fred.net
: Suffice to say that I'm most pleased, and am looking forward to seeing the show
: finally get a good timeslot and the kind of support that SFC can give.
My only caveat is that, although it gave MST3K a home for 3 years, the
bottom fell out in support by the last year, and it too was a victim of the
moving timeslot.
--
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Tammy Smith
supposed to run out in early 2001. At least TNT had the class in the
end to give up B5. I think Sci-Fi will be a better network for the
show.
It certainly was a very nice surprise to hear the news! My mouth
definitely fell open when I found out (& then, I cheered like crazy)!
Tammy
David Chapple
about Sci-Fi but FX is notorious for hacking shows. Just a thought. How
detailed is the agreement between WB and Sci-Fi?
Last question: Does this sitiuation help the chances of Crusade being shown?
I don't know if I'm the first to ask this question. If this jinxes any
chances or plans please delete me. ; )
Thanks,
Dave Chapple
Shaz <hyp...@Dial.pipex.com> wrote in message
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David Chapple
Adelphia cable . I have digital cable but the Sci-Fi channel and many others
are not in stereo. Is it just me or is that the case for you too? Sorry to
bother you with such a silly question but for a program like B5 stereo sound
is very importment. I'm going to call Adelphia this afternoon and see whjat
the deal is. Maybe evertybody in this area can do the same.
Thanks,
Dave
Mac Breck <macb...@timesnet.net> wrote in message
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> > This is such great news!!!
> >
> > Tammy
>
>
>
>
Iain Clark
"Shaz" <hyp...@Dial.pipex.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Steve Fenwick" <ab...@w0x0f.com> wrote in message
> news:abuse-04040...@w0x0f.apple.com...
> > This *is* generally excellent news. My only hesitation is that Sci-Fi's
> > censors seem to be brutal with the audio-kill switch on "objectionable"
> > language; they did a real hatchet job on "Night of the Comet" some
months
> > ago. The really bad part is that they don't over-dub, they just blank
the
> > audio, so it's very noticeable.
> >
> > Any ideas if they will do this with B5, or if there are any agreements
> > with WB about this?
> >
> Well, I'll lay you odds that if that's the case Delenn's 'bastard' scene
> will be as incomprehensible as it was when shown over here in a kiddie
time
> slot.
>
> Delenn: <beep>
> Franklin: Did she say what I think she said?
> Sheridan: She did!
> Delenn: <beep>
>
> Apparently, she's a road runner.
It was even worse than that wasn't it? Not even the beeps; they just
muted/cut the bits that made the scene make sense. I remember the feelings
of bafflement well.
The UK Sci-fi Channel has had B5 rights for some time, and prides itself on
showing the series uncensored "Babylon 5, Season 5, Uncut". I don't know
how affiliated the two are?
Iain
--
"Signs, portents, dreams...next thing
we'll be reading tea leaves and chicken entrails."
Patty Winter
Steve Fenwick <ab...@w0x0f.com> wrote:
>This *is* generally excellent news. My only hesitation is that Sci-Fi's
>censors seem to be brutal with the audio-kill switch on "objectionable"
>language; they did a real hatchet job on "Night of the Comet" some months
>ago. The really bad part is that they don't over-dub, they just blank the
>audio, so it's very noticeable.
>
>Any ideas if they will do this with B5, or if there are any agreements
>with WB about this?
TNT didn't? I'm surprised, because they've cut a bunch of words
out of the very mild mannered "Due South." (E.g. the "god" out
of "god damn." If you think it's noticeable in normal speech,
you should hear what it does to a song!)
Patty
Nightwing
restarted? Even if the cast were different I would love to see the story
played out.
"Jms at B5" <jms...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20000404004623...@ng-ba1.aol.com...
> >This is such great news!!!
>
> Yes, it is. I'd heard about a week ago that they were in negotiations
with WB
> to pick up the series reruns, but didn't want to say anything for fear of
> jinxing things or screwing up the negotiations.
>
> Suffice to say that I'm most pleased, and am looking forward to seeing the
show
> finally get a good timeslot and the kind of support that SFC can give.
>
Wesley Struebing
wrote:
>On 4 Apr 2000 07:36:58 -0600, Hobbs wrote:
>
>><snip wonderful message>
>>
>>Now that it'll be on again (at a better time, I mean), which kind of VHS
>>tape available in the US is of the best quality? I'd like to tape all the
>>episodes WB refuses to release in the highest quality so that they will last
>>(the ones I made when TNT aired the series at 7 pm all those years ago have
>>deteriorated to a point much faster than I would have liked them to).
>>Thanks for any help.
>
>I recommend SVHS...Maxel T180, to be exact, because you can get four eps
>without commercials on them. But of course, this only works if you've got a
>Super VHS deck.
>
OK, Sue...how do you remove the commercials on the fly? (to get those
4 eps...) Even my SVHS deck won't remove commercials.
What's your secret, hmmm?
<snicker>
Pelzo63
>OK, Sue...how do you remove the commercials on the >fly? (to get those
>4 eps...) Even my SVHS deck won't remove >commercials.
well, i'm not sue <g>, but i simply press "pause" when it's recordin, it's
worked on every VCR i've had(all 6 of them)
><snicker>
i prefer milky way actually, errrrrr, was this to signify that this post was
sarcastic? <g>
---Chris AOL/AIM--pelzo63
http://members.aol.com/pelzo63/welcome.html
th stadium's not supposed to fall apart till AFTER the season...
Mark Kuchar
week day. Dark Shadows and B5. Life is worth living again.
Tammy Smith wrote:
>
> The Sci-Fi Channel has picked up the B5 reruns! Go to this URL for more
> info:
>
> http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2000-04/03/13.00sfc
>
> It's going to be on at 7 PM weeknights. Over the weekend at the Star
> Trek Grand Slam Convention, Jerry Doyle said that, if elected, he would
> put B5 back on in prime-time. He acts fast, doesn't he (& before he
> gets elected!)? :)
>
> This is such great news!!!
>
> Tammy
>
>
Jms at B5
>about Sci-Fi but FX is notorious for hacking shows. Just a thought. How
>detailed is the agreement between WB and Sci-Fi?
I believe that B5 was at the legal maximum under FCC regs for commercials.
>Last question: Does this sitiuation help the chances of Crusade being shown?
Way, way, way too early for that to even be discussed.
Piers
You are darn tootin' it's good news. And folks ... we need to tell the
Sci-Fi channel how we feel about it. Including the fact that some of us are
now going to subscribe to it!
Dan
Jms at B5 <jms...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >This is such great news!!!
>
> Yes, it is. I'd heard about a week ago that they were in negotiations
with WB
> to pick up the series reruns, but didn't want to say anything for fear of
> jinxing things or screwing up the negotiations.
>
> Suffice to say that I'm most pleased, and am looking forward to seeing the
show
> finally get a good timeslot and the kind of support that SFC can give.
>
Mac Breck
frames between the commercials and the show, *or* the VCR Pause times-out
(because of being on pause too long due to soooo many commercials), and the
show comes back while you're trying to regroup (play to find the last frame
of show before the commercials started, press Pause, and press Record).
I just tape the whole damned thing, commercials and all, and fast forward
through the commercials. That way, it's less fuss for me, and I get all of
the show. Cutting commercials on-the-fly is definitely NOT worth the
hassle.
Mac
"Pelzo63" <pel...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Mac Breck
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> On 4 Apr 2000 18:20:48 -0600, Wesley Struebing
> <str...@americanisp.com> wrote:
>
> >OK, Sue...how do you remove the commercials on the fly? (to get those
> >4 eps...) Even my SVHS deck won't remove commercials.
>
> a DishNetwork DISHPLayer receiver (digital VCR with a 40 gig HD
> inside) that records the pure digital stream coming down and let's me
> at my leisure play it back in the same quality it started. I then feed
> that to an ATI AIW 128, record it in MPEG format and use a digital
> editor to remove the commercials and add a coupla seconds of black
> leader (can we sam frame accurate), finally takeing the ~500 meg file
> of each episode and making a VideoCD of it for posterity (until we
> finally get the DVD's). Have been slowly encoding/archiving a great
> deal of a large tape collection this way (consider how much storage
> space 50 CD's in sleeves compared to 50 VHS tapes.. and they play on
> my laptop, my desktop and my home DVD player (Pioneer 525)).
Now, that's the way to go!
>
> Have put away a LOT of material (all Farscape, Lot of
> Britcoms/Britdramas, Max Headroom and Encore Mystery channe started
> 'The New Avengers' yesterday...)
I wish I could say that.
Mac
Mac Breck
"David Chapple" <dac...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> I'm about to e-mail them now. By the way, JMS I live in Studio City and
have
> Adelphia cable . I have digital cable but the Sci-Fi channel and many
others
> are not in stereo. Is it just me or is that the case for you too? Sorry to
> bother you with such a silly question but for a program like B5 stereo
sound
> is very importment. I'm going to call Adelphia this afternoon and see
whjat
> the deal is. Maybe evertybody in this area can do the same.
> Thanks,
> Dave
Hmm, that's odd. I have AT&T (old TCI) and Sci-Fi has always been in stereo
there. Back in the PTEN days (on WPTT-Pittsburgh) it wasn't in stereo
(sounded muffled and muddy). I noticed the night and day difference in the
sound, when it went to TNT (stereo).
Complain to Adelphia.
Mac
Chuck
CJW
Chuck
Is Sci-Fi channel going to cut B5 to shreads like they did to Star Trek and Lexx?
Wesley Struebing
>>Wesley Struebing str...@americanisp.com wrote:
>
>>OK, Sue...how do you remove the commercials on the >fly? (to get those
>>4 eps...) Even my SVHS deck won't remove >commercials.
>
>well, i'm not sue <g>, but i simply press "pause" when it's recordin, it's
>worked on every VCR i've had(all 6 of them)
Actually, Chris, I knew about that one. I chose to interpret Sue's
notice as she has some dastardly (well, dastardly to the
commercials...) way of removing them automagically. My reflexes
aren't as good as they used to be.
>
>><snicker>
>
>i prefer milky way actually, errrrrr, was this to signify that this post was
>sarcastic? <g>
Close. and if you want to get technical, I much prefer 3
Musketeers(sp?)<G>...actually, I was laughing at my own (poor) joke...
>
Wesley Struebing
>On 4 Apr 2000 18:20:48 -0600, Wesley Struebing
><str...@americanisp.com> wrote:
>
>>OK, Sue...how do you remove the commercials on the fly? (to get those
>>4 eps...) Even my SVHS deck won't remove commercials.
>
>Then again, you could be a complete and utter goit like I am :)
<geek-stuff snipped>
PPHHHHHHHTTTTTTTT to you!!!!!!!!!!!!
(ducking to escape the NBS...)
Mark Maher
>
>
>Hmm, that's odd. I have AT&T (old TCI) and Sci-Fi has always
been in stereo
>there. Back in the PTEN days (on WPTT-Pittsburgh) it wasn't in
stereo
>(sounded muffled and muddy). I noticed the night and day
difference in the
>sound, when it went to TNT (stereo).
It must have been the affliliate station. My local station that
carried PTEN broadcast Babylon 5 in stereo from the get-go. My
subwoofer rattled the room during the PTEN opening banner music.
__!_!__
Gizmo
Mac Breck
"Mark Maher" <marka...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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You should hear the sound when I play my B5 Laserdiscs! It's a huge leap in
picture and sound clarity over TNT (which already was a huge leap in clarity
over PTEN/WPTT).
Mac
Pelzo63
>notice as she has some dastardly (well, dastardly to >the
>commercials...) way of removing them automagically. >My reflexes
>aren't as good as they used to be.
heh, kinda figure you aready knew, but hey, maybe a lurker or two doesn't know.
>Close. and if you want to get technical, I much prefer >3
>Musketeers(sp?)<G>...
ahh yes, 3 musketeers is very good. thought not, imo, as good as milky way.
of course, the best candy bar out there is Watchamacallit. <g>
>actually, I was laughing at my own (poor) joke...
>>
that was a joke? <ducking>
---Chris AOL/AIM--pelzo63
http://members.aol.com/pelzo63/welcome.html
though, gotta love how Twix has TWO bars in one!
Tammy Smith
Tammy
Pelzo63
>I prefer Milky Way Dark (with dark chocolate!).
i'm not a fan of dark chocolate myself, i prefer milk chocolate, or fudge!
---Chris AOL/AIM--Pelzo63
http://members.aol.com/pelzo63/welcome.html
with all this recent posting, i'm running out of witty .sig's!
Brandon
I get B5 on Space 5 days a week (three times a day the same episode)
Someone mentioned taping episodes - Video tapes are on the way out
IMHO, they're still gonna stick around like floppy disks, but in terms
of quality... I'm not up on technology because my computer is old right
now (hope to get a new one soon) but aren't there now DVD recordables?
In any event, I really hope the pilot, series, and TV movies get
released DVD widescreen, because that is where they belong.
Brandon.
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Chris Huston
sound is remastered in 5.1 Dolby Digital and maybe extra stuff. I'm not
expecting JMS to do commentary on *every* episode, but if he did a
couple for each season, say eps like "Z'ha'dum" and "The Long, Twilight
Struggle" I'd be really pleased.
Chances of going to DVD at all should improve with B5 being on Sci-Fi
now.
BTW, nice to see another Canuck here. :)
--CH
Brandon
> Struggle" I'd be really pleased.
I'd be pleased to start off with if we could just get the pilot and TV
movies out on DVD. With a few behind the scenes stuff would be very
awesome.
> BTW, nice to see another Canuck here. :)
How did you like that 8-1 smasher??!!!
I was at that game (actually I'm not a big fan of hockey but my
girlfriend is so that's cool) and it was great.
BRETNTRACI
>
>Yes, it is. I'd heard about a week ago that they were in negotiations with
>WB
>to pick up the series reruns, but didn't want to say anything for fear of
>jinxing things or screwing up the negotiations.
>
>Suffice to say that I'm most pleased, and am looking forward to seeing the
>show
>finally get a good timeslot and the kind of support that SFC can give.
>
> jms
Does this mean that (ratings willing) SFC may take a chance on getting Crusade
back into production?
Mac Breck
"BRETNTRACI" <bretn...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Write to them. Thank them for B5 reruns, and *suggest* getting Crusade!
Mac
Wesley Struebing
>gka...@webv.net wrote:
>
>>I prefer Milky Way Dark (with dark chocolate!).
>
>
>i'm not a fan of dark chocolate myself, i prefer milk chocolate, or fudge!
>
Oh, but German dark chocolate is to die for...!
(melting into a puddle just thinking about it...)
Brandon
>Actually I'd survive with a full-frame transfer, just as long as the
>sound is remastered in 5.1 Dolby Digital and maybe extra stuff. I'm
I replied already but I don't think it went through. I'd be happy just
as a start to see the TV movies and the pilot on DVD, with some extra
stuff as you mention.
> BTW, nice to see another Canuck here. :)
How did you like the 8-1 smasher?!! I'm not really a hockey fan but my
girlfriend is so we went to that game :)
Someone else asked about getting rid of commercials, this is what I do:
As each commercial nears its end, i restart the tape. if the show
doesn't start i just repause it. that way i don't miss any of the show
and only a few seconds of the beginning of each commercial flicks by.
Brandon :)
LK
>The Sci-Fi Channel has picked up the B5 reruns! Go to this URL for more
>info:
>
I didn't believe it until I checked it out.
Rats. I was hoping for A &E's 7 or 9 PM timeslot. "Horatio
Hornblower," "Pride and Predjuice," "Babylon 5"---fits perfect.
LK
Steve Brinich
> Someone mentioned taping episodes - Video tapes are on the way out
> IMHO, they're still gonna stick around like floppy disks, but in terms
> of quality... I'm not up on technology because my computer is old
> right now (hope to get a new one soon) but aren't there now DVD
> recordables?
Yes, but they're still outrageously expensive and Hollywood is no
doubt going to make (further) efforts to mandate crippleware tech in
order to punish all for the crimes of a few.
--
Steve Brinich <ste...@Radix.Net> If the government wants us
http://www.Radix.Net/~steveb to respect the law
89B992BBE67F7B2F64FDF2EA14374C3E it should set a better example
Mac Breck
news:38F0B7B4...@Radix.Net...
> Brandon wrote:
>
> > Someone mentioned taping episodes - Video tapes are on the way out
> > IMHO, they're still gonna stick around like floppy disks, but in terms
> > of quality... I'm not up on technology because my computer is old
> > right now (hope to get a new one soon) but aren't there now DVD
> > recordables?
>
> Yes, but they're still outrageously expensive and Hollywood is no
> doubt going to make (further) efforts to mandate crippleware tech in
> order to punish all for the crimes of a few.
Isn't that the case with the government and virtually all laws?
Mac
Mena Ryan
>
> >>This is such great news!!!
> >
> >Yes, it is. I'd heard about a week ago that they were in negotiations with
> >WB
> >to pick up the series reruns, but didn't want to say anything for fear of
> >jinxing things or screwing up the negotiations.
> >
> >Suffice to say that I'm most pleased, and am looking forward to seeing the
> >show
> >finally get a good timeslot and the kind of support that SFC can give.
> >
> > jms
>
> Does this mean that (ratings willing) SFC may take a chance on getting Crusade
> back into production?
Personally, I'd be happy if they just re-aired it.
OK, no I wouldn't but that would be a good start. ;)
Mena
Jeff Walther
(Pelzo63) wrote:
> ahh yes, 3 musketeers is very good. thought not, imo, as good as milky way.
> of course, the best candy bar out there is Watchamacallit. <g>
Actually, Watchamacallit was much better before they reformed it and added
caramel...
Pelzo63
>Actually, Watchamacallit was much better before >they reformed it and added
>caramel...
i like that change, the change i didn't like was when 3 musketeers went from
the white wrapper, to the silver wrapper, and upped the amount of chocolate in
the nouget!
---chris AOL/AIM--pelzo63
http://members.aol.com/pelzo63/welcome.html
seavika reenuh
Michael J. Hennebry
Pelzo63 <pel...@aol.com> wrote:
>>Wesley Struebing str...@americanisp.com wrote:
>
>>OK, Sue...how do you remove the commercials on the >fly? (to get those
>>4 eps...) Even my SVHS deck won't remove >commercials.
>
>worked on every VCR i've had(all 6 of them)
Pause isn't hard. It's timing the restart that's hard.
--
Mike henn...@plains.NoDak.edu
Iluvatar is the better part of Valar.
Staffan Sevelin
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Well... Pausing the video... Two problems:
1) All vcr:s I have owned times out after three minutes. No commersial
breaks are thar short (well, usually not ;O)).
2) The videohead are polishing the same spot all the time. If you rent a
pornoflick (which off course no one on this news group does), you can
easely see where the juicy parts are. Amd it hurts the gead, too (on the
video, that is).
And beyond that - timing...
Staffan S.
To be or not to be - is that a question?!?
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> Well... Pausing the video... Two problems:
> 1) All vcr:s I have owned times out after three minutes. No commersial
> breaks are thar short (well, usually not ;O)).
> 2) The videohead are polishing the same spot all the time. If you rent a
> pornoflick (which off course no one on this news group does), you can
> easely see where the juicy parts are. Amd it hurts the gead, too (on the
> video, that is).
> And beyond that - timing...
>
tape wear), wait for most of the commercials to go by (usually wait ~4 min
30 sec), press Play, reverse scan a bit, and press Pause on the first frame
of commercial, and then press Record, most VCRs back up a bit (varies from
VCR to VCR) onto the good part of the signal and overwrite it. With 5
minute commercial breaks, it's hard to get it synched up perfectly. That's
why I usually tape the commercials and then just fast forward scan through
them on playback.
Mac
Sue
<str...@americanisp.com> wrote:
>On 4 Apr 2000 18:42:41 -0600, pel...@aol.com (Pelzo63) wrote:
>
>>>Wesley Struebing str...@americanisp.com wrote:
>>
>>>OK, Sue...how do you remove the commercials on the >fly? (to get those
>>>4 eps...) Even my SVHS deck won't remove >commercials.
>>
>>well, i'm not sue <g>, but i simply press "pause" when it's recordin, it's
>>worked on every VCR i've had(all 6 of them)
>
>Actually, Chris, I knew about that one. I chose to interpret Sue's
>notice as she has some dastardly (well, dastardly to the
>commercials...) way of removing them automagically. My reflexes
>aren't as good as they used to be.
>>
I am Sue...but I'm not sure what you're talking about. <g> What I've
done is tape the B5 eps on SVHS once including commercials (at SP)
then go back and copy them (also at SP on SVHS) onto another tape. I
can get four eps without commercials on a T180 that way. I have the
whole series twice that way. Once from the syndicated versions and
once from TNT. I also, silly me, have the professional PAL tapes,
since I have a PAL VCR.
Is that what you mean?
And yes, I'm behind.
Sue
Sue
<STAFFAN...@mailbox.swipnet.se> wrote:
>Well... Pausing the video... Two problems:
>1) All vcr:s I have owned times out after three minutes. No commersial
>breaks are thar short (well, usually not ;O)).
I think you're a little off here. I've timed commercial breaks a lot
of times and very few times are they over three minutes long.
Sue
Mac Breck
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I haven't timed them on TNT's B5 reruns, but on the Sci-Fi Channel during
Farscape, and on WB during Buffy and Angel they go about 5 minutes. Seems
to be designed to prevent cutting commercials via the straight Pause method.
Also, even if it's only 3 minutes, you'd still have extra tape wear and
stretching, and head wear (over the Stop/Play/Reverse Scan/Pause/Rec
method).
Mac
Sue
wrote:
>
>I haven't timed them on TNT's B5 reruns, but on the Sci-Fi Channel during
>Farscape, and on WB during Buffy and Angel they go about 5 minutes. Seems
>to be designed to prevent cutting commercials via the straight Pause method.
>Also, even if it's only 3 minutes, you'd still have extra tape wear and
>stretching, and head wear (over the Stop/Play/Reverse Scan/Pause/Rec
>method).
Which is why I mostly tape things I want to keep with SVHS on SP...and
then dub them off on SVHS at SP and take out the commercials that way.
Sue
UnltdLife
>then dub them off on SVHS at SP and take out the commercials that way.
>
>Sue
Sue,
This may be a dumb question, but I've not actually seens any SVHS machines in
action. Does it use a kind of digital technology to record -- or is it really
just a higher quality analog? Are the tapes different than regular VHS -- or
can you use regular VHS tapes with it?
I was mostly wondering if there is any degradation of the quality from first
copy to second in SP mode.
Thanks.
Jason
P.S. - My HI-FI, 4 head, cheapie VCR is giving up the ghost... Thinking about
newer options. Anybody got a recordable DVD player yet?
Wesley Struebing
>>Which is why I mostly tape things I want to keep with SVHS on SP...and
>>then dub them off on SVHS at SP and take out the commercials that way.
>>
>>Sue
>
>Sue,
>
>This may be a dumb question, but I've not actually seens any SVHS machines in
>action. Does it use a kind of digital technology to record -- or is it really
>just a higher quality analog? Are the tapes different than regular VHS -- or
>can you use regular VHS tapes with it?
Good questions, all. You can use regular VHS tapes with it, but
quality is no better than they'd be in any good VHS machine. Also, at
least on mine, I have to *set* it to record SVHS (and tell my TV I'm
recording SVHS). It does not recognize it automagically. (or even
automatically) So, yes, SVHS tapes ARE different.
>
>I was mostly wondering if there is any degradation of the quality from first
>copy to second in SP mode.
Probably. Ain't seen one where there wasn't -at least for home use...
Keith Wood
UnltdLife wrote:
>
> >Which is why I mostly tape things I want to keep with SVHS on SP...and
> >then dub them off on SVHS at SP and take out the commercials that way.
> >
> >Sue
>
> Sue,
>
> This may be a dumb question, but I've not actually seens any SVHS machines in
> action. Does it use a kind of digital technology to record -- or is it really
> just a higher quality analog?
SVHS is just an improved VHS laydown. The only difference in the media
is higher oxide density, and the deck will record and play normal VHS
tapes as well.
Mac Breck
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If it's analog, there will always be some loss when going from a Generation
N to a Generation N+1 tape. The question is whether or not the loss is
visually/aurally detectable to most viewers.
Mac
djl...@magic.mv.com
>This may be a dumb question, but I've not actually seens any SVHS machines in
>action. Does it use a kind of digital technology to record -- or is it really
>just a higher quality analog? Are the tapes different than regular VHS -- or
>can you use regular VHS tapes with it?
>
>I was mostly wondering if there is any degradation of the quality from first
>copy to second in SP mode.
If you go with the new JVC S-VHS VCRs, you can get some pretty nifty
features.
One is that you no longer need S-VHS tapes to make S-VHS recordings.
Now, they do something called "S-VHS-ET" which puts the "s" signal on
a normal tape (they recommend high grade tapes to minimize the amount
of noise in the picture).
I use long tapes at SP speeds and haven't had any problems. I have 3
of these machines so you can tell I'm pretty happy with them.
I'm told that the mid-range deck (HR-S4600 if I remember the model
number correctly, might be the 7600 or 9600) has some sort of digital
tracking that's unlike anything done before (literally digitizing the
picture to correct flaws) and I've heard rave reviews of it (for a
machine that costs in the $500 range). No personal experience but I'm
having no problem with the 'low end' $250 models.
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In Sweden, on commercial channels, the breaks are more like 4 than 3
minutes. But that is in Sweden
--
Staffan S
To be or not to be - is that a question?!?
Sue <vam...@mindspring.com> skrev i inlägg
<390ec83f...@news.mindspring.com>...
: On 14 Apr 2000 07:45:58 -0600, "Staffan Sevelin"
:
Andre Lieven
> On 3 May 2000 22:45:17 -0600, unlt...@aol.com (UnltdLife) wrote:
>
>>>then dub them off on SVHS at SP and take out the commercials that way.
>>>
>>>Sue
>>
>>Sue,
>>
>>action. Does it use a kind of digital technology to record -- or is it really
>>just a higher quality analog? Are the tapes different than regular VHS -- or
>>can you use regular VHS tapes with it?
>
> quality is no better than they'd be in any good VHS machine. Also, at
> least on mine, I have to *set* it to record SVHS (and tell my TV I'm
> recording SVHS). It does not recognize it automagically. (or even
> automatically) So, yes, SVHS tapes ARE different.
I use two SVHS decks in my a/v rig, and the prime use of SVHS modes that
I use is to record programs in SP SVHS, and then clone them down to VHS
SLP, deleting the commercials along the way. I find that it's very hard
for me to find any difference between the SP VHS copy from the SVHS tape,
and an original off air taping on VHS SLP.
As far as those questions go, one is told not to play an SVHS tape in a
non SVHS machine, and so I've never tried that. I expect that the non
SVHS machine won't be able to decipher what's on the SVHS tape format.
But, any VHS tapes made on a SVHS machine play just fine anywhere.
Also, my two SVHS decks ( vintages, 1993, and 1997 ) both automatically
set themselves to SVHS mode whenever I put in an SVHS tape. Though, even
with my first SVHS unit, I never had to set anything on the TV when I
taped in SVHS mode.
In general, if you are familiar with audio formats, think of the TV in
any video rig as being the technical equivalent of speakers in an audio
system. What gets to the speakers, and the TV, is the final product of
whatever is being done further up the line. No matter what I'm taping on
my audio system, the speakers merely reproduce that which is fed into them.
As it is with a TV, when videotaping. I presume that all have their VCR's
plugged in to feed their signals to the TV, and not the other way around ?
>>I was mostly wondering if there is any degradation of the quality from first
>>copy to second in SP mode.
There always is, in any analog format. The real question is, is the
degradation noticable to a viewer ? If not, then for the sake of it's use,
there isn't.
>
> Probably. Ain't seen one where there wasn't -at least for home use...
Digital tape would likely not have that problem.
Andre
--
" The noblest achievement of the imagination is to make time run some
other way, and terminate in beauty and forgivness "
David Gelernter, " 1939 "
Iain Reid
>In Sweden, on commercial channels, the breaks are more like 4 than 3
>minutes. But that is in Sweden
>--
>Staffan S
In the UK they are between 4-5 minutes. Possibly even longer...however,
unlike the states, there is only one Ad break per Half-hour of program (on
the terrestrial channels) which is perfect - it gives you the time to go and
make a cup of tea, safe in the knowledge that you won't have to make another
cup for a full 15minutes. I chuckle every time the screen goes black for a
couple of secs and I know that's where the Americans would be watching
another onslought of capatilsm ;)
Ahh...bliss.
Iain Reid
Gharlane of Eddore
"Staffan Sevelin" <STAFFAN...@mailbox.swipnet.se> wrote in message
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>
> In Sweden, on commercial channels, the breaks are more like 4 than 3
> minutes. But that is in Sweden
>
Over here, to get commercials down to that level, you buy the shows
on DVD, and then crack the code so you have control of the display
and can step past the mandatory brackafratzing ads and commercials
at the start of the disk.....
In <8f9itr$a78q8$1...@fu-berlin.de> Known Brit "Iain Reid"
<theva...@callnet0800.com> writes:
>
> In the UK they are between 4-5 minutes. Possibly even longer...however,
> unlike the states, there is only one Ad break per Half-hour of program
> (on the terrestrial channels) which is perfect - it gives you the time
> to go and make a cup of tea, safe in the knowledge that you won't have
>
Tea is the drug that caused the downfall of the British Empire.
Drink all you like; we feel safer when you lot are zotzed out of
your skulls on your hourly "cuppa," because we know the caffeine-
addiction jitters will keep you from ever taking command of the
high seas again.
>
> to make another cup for a full 15minutes. I chuckle every time the
>
Oh, a cup every fifteen minutes, ey? You know, I'm sure there's
some kind of program, even in that towering edifice of socialized
inefficiency and mismanagement you lot call the "National Health"
that would help you learn to cope with your problem before it leads
to the Hard Stuff, i.e. Black Coffee.
>
> screen goes black for a couple of secs and I know that's where the
> Americans would be watching another onslought of capatilsm ;)
>
> Ahh...bliss.
>
Hey, guy, at least *WE* know how to spell "onslaught" and "capitalism."
( Note that if "onslought" *were* actually a word, it would mean something
entirely different than your apparent contextual intent. )
You should also bear in mind that American Commercials are some of the
finest pornography aired anywhere in the world; you would not *believe*
some of the images and subliminal referents we get to see. All you
Euros ever get is a bit of gratuitous nudity to keep you watching;
*our* shows aren't allowed to do that, so they have to be more inventive.
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Eric Wagner
dg...@freenet.carleton.ca (Andre Lieven) wrote:
> Wesley Struebing (str...@americanisp.com) writes:
> > On 3 May 2000 22:45:17 -0600, unlt...@aol.com (UnltdLife) wrote:
> >
> >>>Which is why I mostly tape things I want to keep with SVHS on SP...and
> >>>then dub them off on SVHS at SP and take out the commercials that way.
> >>>
> >>>Sue
> >>
> >>Sue,
> >>
> >>This may be a dumb question, but I've not actually seens any SVHS
> >>machines in
> >>action. Does it use a kind of digital technology to record -- or is it
> >>really
> >>just a higher quality analog? Are the tapes different than regular VHS
> >>-- or
> >>can you use regular VHS tapes with it?
> >
> > Good questions, all. You can use regular VHS tapes with it, but
> > quality is no better than they'd be in any good VHS machine. Also, at
> > least on mine, I have to *set* it to record SVHS (and tell my TV I'm
> > recording SVHS). It does not recognize it automagically. (or even
> > automatically) So, yes, SVHS tapes ARE different.
>
> I use two SVHS decks in my a/v rig, and the prime use of SVHS modes that
> I use is to record programs in SP SVHS, and then clone them down to VHS
> SLP, deleting the commercials along the way. I find that it's very hard
> for me to find any difference between the SP VHS copy from the SVHS tape,
> and an original off air taping on VHS SLP.
>
Thats probably because the quality of SVHS exceeds that of NTSC
television broadcasts. Now if you had an HDTV -> SVHS converter you'll
definitely notice the difference.
Tom Holt
The message <8f9rhc$1...@news.csus.edu>
from ghar...@ccshp1.ccs.csus.edu (Gharlane of Eddore) contains
these words:
> In <8f9itr$a78q8$1...@fu-berlin.de> Known Brit "Iain Reid"
> <theva...@callnet0800.com> writes:
> >
> > In the UK they are between 4-5 minutes. Possibly even longer...however,
> > unlike the states, there is only one Ad break per Half-hour of program
> > (on the terrestrial channels) which is perfect - it gives you the time
> > to go and make a cup of tea, safe in the knowledge that you won't have
> >
> Tea is the drug that caused the downfall of the British Empire.
> Drink all you like; we feel safer when you lot are zotzed out of
> your skulls on your hourly "cuppa," because we know the caffeine-
> addiction jitters will keep you from ever taking command of the
> high seas again.
(a) drinkable tea; and
(b) cricket.
It should be noted that the tea actually comes from India, and the
only 'English' cricketers worth watching are Australians, New
Zealanders, West Indians, South Africans, Indians or Pakistanis.
Nevertheless; coffee and baseball are all very fine, but no
substitute for the real thing.
As for tea being the 'downfall of the British Empire', I feel you're
missing a vital point. Britain has the worst food in the world. The
former British possessions in the Indian sub-continent and the Far
East can boast arguably the finest cuisine on Earth, not to mention
tea. As the poet Fish so eloquently put it, "The British conquered
the world in search of better chow"
Andrew Swallow
>the world in search of better chow"
>
Oh, this why we lost the empire! After World War 2, UK ford was improved.
Andrew Swallow
Shaz
"Tom Holt" <lemmi...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:200005092...@zetnet.co.uk...
>
> The message <8f9rhc$1...@news.csus.edu>
> from ghar...@ccshp1.ccs.csus.edu (Gharlane of Eddore) contains
> these words:
>
>
>
>
> > In <8f9itr$a78q8$1...@fu-berlin.de> Known Brit "Iain Reid"
> > <theva...@callnet0800.com> writes:
> > >
> > > In the UK they are between 4-5 minutes. Possibly even
longer...however,
> > > unlike the states, there is only one Ad break per Half-hour of program
> > > (on the terrestrial channels) which is perfect - it gives you the time
> > > to go and make a cup of tea, safe in the knowledge that you won't have
> > >
>
> > Tea is the drug that caused the downfall of the British Empire.
> > Drink all you like; we feel safer when you lot are zotzed out of
> > your skulls on your hourly "cuppa," because we know the caffeine-
> > addiction jitters will keep you from ever taking command of the
> > high seas again.
>
>
> In the UK we have two things that make living here intermittently
bearable;
>
> (a) drinkable tea; and
As opposed to the filth promulgated as same in the US which tastes like
floor shavings. (after three years living there I'd got all my US friends
asking me to bring some decent British tea over with me whenever I went home
for the holidays)
> (b) cricket.
I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Sitting in the sun with
a cuppa and cake, listening to the sound of leather on willow is certainly
pleasant, suffering the sport on TV (especially when it interrupts B5) I can
live without. We usually lose, anyway.
> It should be noted that the tea actually comes from India, and the
> only 'English' cricketers worth watching are Australians, New
> Zealanders, West Indians, South Africans, Indians or Pakistanis.
> Nevertheless; coffee and baseball are all very fine, but no
> substitute for the real thing.
Absolutely.
> As for tea being the 'downfall of the British Empire', I feel you're
> missing a vital point. Britain has the worst food in the world. The
> former British possessions in the Indian sub-continent and the Far
> East can boast arguably the finest cuisine on Earth, not to mention
> tea. As the poet Fish so eloquently put it, "The British conquered
> the world in search of better chow"
<ahem> ExCUSE me?! Where do you eat that it's so bad? You want lousy food,
try Austrian (barring their pastries). Talk about stodgy. A good old English
roast with all the trimmings, or a steaming stew filled with just about
everything, shepherds pie (with some mature cheddar cheese on top), crispy
fish and chips, fish pie, a side of Scottish smoked salmon, a ripe
Stilton...
Maybe you ought to stop cooking for yourself, or find another restaurant.
British food, when done properly (as is the case where I am) is excellent,
and I've had the comments from Americans, Australians, French, Germans,
Italians, Indians, Canadians and others to prove it.
Shaz
Marko Poutiainen
> cup for a full 15minutes. I chuckle every time the screen goes black for a
> couple of secs and I know that's where the Americans would be watching
> another onslought of capatilsm ;)
> Ahh...bliss.
*chuckle* Here in Finland the show was aired with no commercials
whatsoever. That's the upside of having a national broadcasting company :)
Although the time they aired the show wasn't quite that good: Saturdays
around midnight (they first aired it on Sundays around midnight, but then
moved it). Then again, I guess B5 saved me a lot of money because I had a
good reason not to go to a pub...
--
Marko Poutiainen | These are my principles.
m...@paju.oulu.fi | If you don't like them, I have others.
http://www.toffeeweb.org | -Groucho Marx
Patrick MARCEL
> *chuckle* Here in Finland the show was aired with no commercials
> whatsoever. That's the upside of having a national broadcasting company :)
In France, the series was broadcast on what could be described as the
French equivalent to HBO. No commercials, no logo. And after the first
season, which was broadcast all over the place, the next seasons had a
stable and fairly comfortable time slot - sundays around 4 P.M.
Patrick
--
"We are all born as molecules in the heart of a billion stars; molecules
that do not understand politics or policies or differences. Over a
billion years, we foolish molecules forget who we are, and where we came
from. In desperate acts of ego we give ourselves names, fight over lines
on maps, and pretend our light is better than everyone else's. The flame
reminds us of the piece of those stars that lives on inside us, the
spark that tells us, 'you know better'." JMS
Simo Aaltonen
>Then again, I guess B5 saved me a lot of money because I had a
>good reason not to go to a pub...
Whatever do you mean? Seeing G'Kar lose his world, his title, and his eye
is enough to drive a man to drink...
:-)
-sIMO aaltonen
WWS
Shaz uttered:
>
> Tom Holt screib:
> >
> >Also Sprach Gharlane of Eddore:
> > > >
> >
> > > Tea is the drug that caused the downfall of the British Empire.
> > > Drink all you like; we feel safer when you lot are zotzed out of
> > > your skulls on your hourly "cuppa," because we know the caffeine-
> > > addiction jitters will keep you from ever taking command of the
> > > high seas again.
> >
> >
> > In the UK we have two things that make living here intermittently
> bearable;
> >
> > (a) drinkable tea; and
>
> As opposed to the filth promulgated as same in the US which tastes like
> floor shavings. (after three years living there I'd got all my US friends
> asking me to bring some decent British tea over with me whenever I went home
> for the holidays)
Your friends must all be Yankees, they don't know how to make no Tea. How
you make it in Texas (and the rest of the Southwest, for that matter) is
you get a gallon pickle jar (wash it good or your tea will taste funny)
and then you fill it up with water and hang about 3 or 4 teabags off in
it (Lusianne is the best, but you can hang some imported stuff off in there
if you want to be all artsy-fartsy about it) and then you set it off in the
backyard first thing in the morning. Let it sit till about 6 in the evening
(or later, depending on when the day starts to cool off). During the day the
sun concentrated through the glass will get the water's temp up to about 140.
(I checked it with a cooking thermometer once on a July afternoon.) After a
while you can calibrate your time and original tea amount to the flavor you
like. Anyway, then you bring it in and you've got a gallon of the best tea
you ever tasted. Pour it over a big tall glass of ice, add in a coupla sprigs
of mint you got growin' next to the back door, and you got what I live off of
about half the year.
>
> > (b) cricket.
>
> I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Sitting in the sun with
> a cuppa and cake, listening to the sound of leather on willow is certainly
> pleasant, suffering the sport on TV (especially when it interrupts B5) I can
> live without. We usually lose, anyway.
Dr. Who liked Cricket. But then he liked those neck mufflers too.
>
> > It should be noted that the tea actually comes from India, and the
> > only 'English' cricketers worth watching are Australians, New
> > Zealanders, West Indians, South Africans, Indians or Pakistanis.
> > Nevertheless; coffee and baseball are all very fine, but no
> > substitute for the real thing.
>
> Absolutely.
>
> > As for tea being the 'downfall of the British Empire', I feel you're
> > missing a vital point. Britain has the worst food in the world. The
> > former British possessions in the Indian sub-continent and the Far
> > East can boast arguably the finest cuisine on Earth, not to mention
> > tea. As the poet Fish so eloquently put it, "The British conquered
> > the world in search of better chow"
>
> <ahem> ExCUSE me?! Where do you eat that it's so bad? You want lousy food,
> try Austrian (barring their pastries). Talk about stodgy. A good old English
> roast with all the trimmings, or a steaming stew filled with just about
> everything, shepherds pie (with some mature cheddar cheese on top), crispy
> fish and chips, fish pie, a side of Scottish smoked salmon, a ripe
> Stilton...
>
> Maybe you ought to stop cooking for yourself, or find another restaurant.
> British food, when done properly (as is the case where I am) is excellent,
> and I've had the comments from Americans, Australians, French, Germans,
> Italians, Indians, Canadians and others to prove it.
I ain't never seen no English food that don't need at least a jalapeno
or two on it to liven it up some. Now, some of those curries are a
whole different story, and that's prolly what I'd spend my dinner money
on if I was in London! (danged hard to find a decent curry here)
Never heard of no English pub serving a decent plate of Nachos.
--
_________________________________________________WWS_____________
Think parochially, post globally -- Peter McDermott
John W. Kennedy
> In the UK we have two things that make living here intermittently bearable;
>
> (a) drinkable tea;
This Yank wouldn't know what to do if he ever lost his Marks & Sparks
connexion and had to do without St. Michael's Extra Strong.
Anyway, no matter what anyone else maintains, I say Britannia will
always be Top Nation as long as the Oxford University Press remains in
business.
--
-John W. Kennedy
-jwk...@attglobal.net
Compact is becoming contract
Man only earns and pays. -- Charles Williams
John W. Kennedy
> Dr. Who liked Cricket.
So did a man named Lessingham.
And Lord Peter Wimsey.
Corun MacAnndra
>
>> > (a) drinkable tea; and
>>
>> As opposed to the filth promulgated as same in the US which tastes like
>> floor shavings. (after three years living there I'd got all my US friends
>> asking me to bring some decent British tea over with me whenever I went home
>> for the holidays)
>
>Your friends must all be Yankees, they don't know how to make no Tea. How
>you make it in Texas (and the rest of the Southwest, for that matter) is
[SNIP]
Son, Ah say, son. He's talkin' 'bout *hot* tea, not iced tea (invented
IIRC at the St. Louis world's fair in 1939 by a Lipton representative
who couldn't sell hot tea in July and so iced it down).
Besides, I don't find the Indian teas (which are more prevalent in the
British Isles) as good as a good black Chinese tea. But I do love a good
cup of Irish tea. The only kind I've ever *had* to take white and sweet.
I usually take them black and sweet or just black.
>I ain't never seen no English food that don't need at least a jalapeno
>or two on it to liven it up some. Now, some of those curries are a
>whole different story, and that's prolly what I'd spend my dinner money
>on if I was in London! (danged hard to find a decent curry here)
Hrm, must be that Texacan influence again. Insidious. You need to move
out here to the east coast. We've got plenty of Indian groceries and
restaurants here and there's no derth of good curry (dang Texacans
think a jalapeno is hot!).
>Never heard of no English pub serving a decent plate of Nachos.
No, but there used to be a KFC and a Pizza Hut just up the road from
the V&A Museum.
Corun
J. Potts
> missing a vital point. Britain has the worst food in the world. The
> former British possessions in the Indian sub-continent and the Far
> East can boast arguably the finest cuisine on Earth, not to mention
> tea. As the poet Fish so eloquently put it, "The British conquered
> the world in search of better chow"
><ahem> ExCUSE me?! Where do you eat that it's so bad? You want lousy food,
>try Austrian (barring their pastries). Talk about stodgy. A good old English
>roast with all the trimmings, or a steaming stew filled with just about
>everything, shepherds pie (with some mature cheddar cheese on top), crispy
>fish and chips, fish pie, a side of Scottish smoked salmon, a ripe
>Stilton...
way my English grandmother made it). Steak and kidney pie I can do without
thankyouverymuch (another one of her "specialties"). As Dave Barry once said,
"The English were able to drive off the invading hordes by serving them
relentlessly bland food despite numerous attempts by the French to invade
with sauces" (or words to that effect). Now, give me a good leg o' lamb and
some Yorkshire pudding with gravy, yum!
--
JRP
"How many slime-trailing, sleepless, slimy, slobbering things do you know
that will *run and hide* from your Eveready?"
--Maureen Birnbaum, Barbarian Swordsperson
Shaz
"J. Potts" <nav...@xnet.com> wrote in message
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> Shepherd's pie is okay, though I always found it rather bland (at least
the
> way my English grandmother made it).
It needs green peppers, onions, Worcestershire Sauce and a decent gravy to
make it work, not to mention butter, pepper, salt and a little cream in the
mashed potatoes and a mature cheddar cheese (the type that makes your hands
sting if you hold it too long!) melted until brown on the top. THEN it
tastes good. Reheats like a charm, too!
> Steak and kidney pie I can do without
> thankyouverymuch (another one of her "specialties").
Love it. But then I adore Haggis, and we've already had discussions on that.
> As Dave Barry once said,
> "The English were able to drive off the invading hordes by serving them
> relentlessly bland food despite numerous attempts by the French to invade
> with sauces" (or words to that effect). Now, give me a good leg o' lamb
and
> some Yorkshire pudding with gravy, yum!
Welsh lamb... hmmmmmmmm hmmmmmm! Oh yeah! Juicy and tender (apologies to the
vegetarians on here, but I'm one step removed from a pure carnivore), fresh
mint sauce, all the trimmings...
damn! You're making me hungry just thinking about it!
Shaz <who finds a drop of Lea and Perrins can do wonders for a lot of
things>
M.E. Tonkin
Shaz wrote:
>
>
> Shaz <who finds a drop of Lea and Perrins can do wonders for a lot of
> things>
Lea and Perrins Worcestershire sauce is undoubtedly England's greatest
culinary creation.
MET
Mac Breck
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For me, it's a pot roast (so tender it's falling apart) and Colman's
Mustard.
Mac
Tom Holt
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from andrewm...@cs.com (Andrew Swallow) contains these words:
> >As the poet Fish so eloquently put it, "The British conquered
> >the world in search of better chow"
> >
> Oh, this why we lost the empire! After World War 2, UK ford was improved.
Indeed; but only because most of the cars are made in Germany.
As for UK *food* - no question, since the War, food in the UK has
improved beyond all recognition; you got your Indian, your Chinese,
your Italian, your Greek, your Vietnamese...
Tom Holt
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from WWS <wsch...@tyler.net> contains these words:
> How
> you make it in Texas (and the rest of the Southwest, for that matter) is
> you get a gallon pickle jar (wash it good or your tea will taste funny)
> and then you fill it up with water and hang about 3 or 4 teabags off in
> it (Lusianne is the best, but you can hang some imported stuff off in there
> if you want to be all artsy-fartsy about it) and then you set it off in the
> backyard first thing in the morning. Let it sit till about 6 in the evening
> (or later, depending on when the day starts to cool off). During the day the
> sun concentrated through the glass will get the water's temp up to about 140.
> (I checked it with a cooking thermometer once on a July afternoon.) After a
> while you can calibrate your time and original tea amount to the flavor you
> like. Anyway, then you bring it in and you've got a gallon of the best tea
> you ever tasted. Pour it over a big tall glass of ice, add in a coupla sprigs
> of mint you got growin' next to the back door, and you got what I live off of
> about half the year.
True; American iced tea is a thing of beauty and a joy for ever.
Best of all, IMHO, is Indian tea made Indian-fashion; take a
substantial cauldron of water, add large amounts of tea, milk and
either sugar or honey, boil ferociously, strain and serve. Outta sight.
Corun MacAnndra
>
>For me, it's a pot roast (so tender it's falling apart) and Colman's
>Mustard.
My wife discovered, to her dismay, that the hot mustard served in Chinese
restaurants alongside the plum sauce that comes with your egg roll is in
reality simply Coleman's.
And I agree about the pot roast.
Corun
J. Potts
"J. Potts" <nav...@xnet.com> wrote in message
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> Shepherd's pie is okay, though I always found it rather bland (at least
> the way my English grandmother made it).
In article <8fc7s8$1rc$1...@lure.pipex.net>, Shaz <hyp...@Dial.pipex.com> wrote:
>It needs green peppers, onions, Worcestershire Sauce and a decent gravy to
>make it work, not to mention butter, pepper, salt and a little cream in the
>mashed potatoes and a mature cheddar cheese (the type that makes your hands
>sting if you hold it too long!) melted until brown on the top. THEN it
>tastes good. Reheats like a charm, too!
That's the problem with the way granny made it (and, in turn, how my
mother made it). Almost none of those things were ever included. Though,
I can't be too uncharitable towards my grandmother. She lost her sense
of smell and it adversely affected her ability to taste things.
"J. Potts" <nav...@xnet.com> wrote in message
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> Now, give me a good leg o' lamb and some Yorkshire pudding with gravy, yum!
In article <8fc7s8$1rc$1...@lure.pipex.net>, Shaz <hyp...@Dial.pipex.com> wrote:
>Welsh lamb... hmmmmmmmm hmmmmmm! Oh yeah! Juicy and tender (apologies to the
>vegetarians on here, but I'm one step removed from a pure carnivore), fresh
>mint sauce, all the trimmings...
>
>damn! You're making me hungry just thinking about it!
<heh, heh!> Besides, sheep are very dim and they smell. We're doing them a
favor by eating them. We use to raise them ourselves. Nothing ever compared
to the home-grown variety. <sigh>
>Shaz <who finds a drop of Lea and Perrins can do wonders for a lot of
>things>
Very true. Also butter and garlic. After all escargot is proof that with
enough butter and garlic, *anything* can taste good.
As long as we're on the subject of food, how many folks like grilled
cheese sandwiches, particularly when the cheese oozes out and turns
brown where it hits the griddle? There's something about toasted cheese
that I find especially satisfying.
Staffan Sevelin
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Nice for You. In Sweden there are ad break every 15-20 minutes, depending
on time of day. And, to some degree, on channel. But, no commercials, no
programs. Not for 'free', that is.
--
SS
To be or not to be - is that a question?!?
Iain Reid <theva...@callnet0800.com> skrev i inlägg
<8f9itr$a78q8$1...@fu-berlin.de>...
:
: In the UK they are between 4-5 minutes. Possibly even longer...however,
: unlike the states, there is only one Ad break per Half-hour of program
(on
: the terrestrial channels) which is perfect - it gives you the time to go
and
: make a cup of tea, safe in the knowledge that you won't have to make
another
: cup for a full 15minutes. I chuckle every time the screen goes black for
a
: couple of secs and I know that's where the Americans would be watching
: another onslought of capatilsm ;)
:
: Ahh...bliss.
:
: Iain Reid
:
:
:
:
Richard Bossard
"Tom Holt" <lemmi...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> As for tea being the 'downfall of the British Empire', I feel you're
> missing a vital point. Britain has the worst food in the world.
Yes, I spent a month there once (in the southwest near the ocean) and lost
20 pounds. My first meal was a "hot dog". I figured thats pretty safe. Boy
was I wrong. It was stuffed with something brown in the consistancy of
oatmeal. The fish and chips were more grease by weight than fish and chips.
I did discover that if you rip off all the breading and throw away the
chips, you ended up with a extremely nice piece of fish. So then I tried
chinese. That _had_ to be safe, I fugured. I ordered a shrimp egg-foo-young.
Big mistake, think of bland, slightly runny scrambled eggs, with a few
shrimp and onions, and you get the idea. The hamburgers were a little weird
but very good. They were something somewhat like sausage in the US. I got to
quite like them, especially with tomato (ketchup) and corn (corn relish) on
them. And I did also like the ox-tail soup. The potato chips are called
fries and came in flavors like prawn, chicken, and beef. I don't remember
ever trying them. Oh yes, and the first time I ate in a resturant, I thought
at first that they gave me a menu missing a couple pages. While very bland,
the vegetables always seemed very fresh.
Now the beer,,, now thats somthing else entirely. I have never since had
beer so good. My favorite ale (royal something or other, I forget), was hand
pumped out of a cask on the bar and drunk at room temperature. That was
excellent.
Rick
lcou...@stetson.edu
have a couple of questions. First, PAL VCRs are available in the US (at
least I think so - I believe they play both). Do they work on a standard
TV or do you need to have a special TV to play PAL?
I understand there are 6 or so formats for DVD. Since B5 DVD's appear to
be headed toward Britain, can anyone give me info on this and if it's
possible and how to obtain it in the states?
Finally, for something completely different, B5 is now behind both
_Farscape_ and _Next Generation_ on the deja poll. Let's do something
about this!
Lisa Coulter
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Pål Are Nordal
>
> Finally, for something completely different, B5 is now behind both
> _Farscape_ and _Next Generation_ on the deja poll. Let's do something
> about this!
Don't bother. Someone is cheating in order to keep Farscape on top. I
tried to "counter-cheat", but the person either has no life or a script
set up.
I decided that there are more important things in life.
--
Donate free food with a simple click: http://www.thehungersite.com/
Pål Are Nordal
a_b...@bigfoot.com
Shaz
"Pål Are Nordal" <a_b...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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lcou...@stetson.edu wrote:
>
> Finally, for something completely different, B5 is now behind both
> _Farscape_ and _Next Generation_ on the deja poll. Let's do something
> about this!
>Don't bother. Someone is cheating in order to keep Farscape on top. I
>tried to "counter-cheat", but the person either has no life or a script
>set up.
>I decided that there are more important things in life.
True, but we could give them a run for their money if only we knew the URL.
Care to supply it?
Shaz
Shaz
<lcou...@stetson.edu> wrote in message news:8fh7b9$3mm$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> OK. Deja is acting a little flaky so I hope this gets posted properly. I
> have a couple of questions. First, PAL VCRs are available in the US (at
> least I think so - I believe they play both). Do they work on a standard
> TV or do you need to have a special TV to play PAL?
The videos bought in the US that are dual standard will output in a format a
normal US tv can understand (if you'll pardon the anthropomorphism).
Certainly here in the UK a standard VCR that can play both has no trouble
whatsoever outputting NTSC on a UK TV. Just as well given all the videos I
bought in the US!
> I understand there are 6 or so formats for DVD. Since B5 DVD's appear to
> be headed toward Britain, can anyone give me info on this and if it's
> possible and how to obtain it in the states?
So far no sign of them (:-P) but there are multi-region DVD players.
Strictly speaking they're not approved of, but the whole situation is
utterly daft and just another example of Hollywood trying to get money for
old rope. The Creative DVD players for computers have a cheap hack as well
<cough, cough. Not that I know about this you understand. cough, cough>
> Finally, for something completely different, B5 is now behind both
> _Farscape_ and _Next Generation_ on the deja poll. Let's do something
> about this!
As I said in the other message, URL please!
Shaz
Pål Are Nordal
>
> True, but we could give them a run for their money if only we knew the URL.
> Care to supply it?
http://www.deja.com/ (Select Arts & Entertainment -> TV -> Scifi)
Jon Niehof
> longer...however, unlike the states, there is only one
> Ad break per Half-hour of program (on the terrestrial
> channels) which is perfect
knocking around is 22 minutes long, including the intro,
with one break. There might be one right at the beginning,
but I'm not sure.
So, that would mean Japan a few years ago was doing probably
four minutes between shows and four in the middle.
Whereas when I wach the Simpsons these days, it's:
theme
commercial (note the lack of content before the first
commercial--except for the couch scene)
first bit
commercial
next bit
commercial
ending
commercial
closing credits (possibly with a quick tag before, during,
or after the credits).
I wonder when the US went to this. In my idyllic youth, I
recall one commercial break. I'm pretty sure it was this
chopped up by the time I moved back to the States in
'92. Canada, at the time, stuck pretty much to the
one-commercial-in-the-middle approach.
--Jon, N9RUJ jnie...@calvin.edu www.calvin.edu/~jnieho38
"I have been compelled to involuntarily promote
myself into management." --RMS
Jon Niehof
>
> As opposed to the filth promulgated as same in the US
> which tastes like floor shavings. (after three years
> living there I'd got all my US friends asking me to
> bring some decent British tea over with me whenever I
> went home for the holidays)
your friendly neighbourhood Chinese restaurant. No, take-out
doesn't count.
Other Oriental restaurant would probably be fine, but harder
to find. (And as much as I admire Japanese culture, their
idea of "good food" does not mesh with mine--I like
plentiful and flavourful, not elegantly arranged with
coordinating colours.)
Wow...It's amazing what I've been missing on the group
during end-of-semester crunch time. (Graduation...one
week...I *will* make it...I *will* make it....)
Jon Niehof
> take a substantial cauldron of water, add large amounts
> of tea, milk and either sugar or honey, boil
> ferociously, strain and serve. Outta sight.
you hit the bottom of the cup, you're eating it...mmmm..
Steve Fenwick
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In article <8fi3kr$l14$1...@lure.pipex.net>, "Shaz" <hyp...@Dial.pipex.com> wrote:
>"Pål Are Nordal" <a_b...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>news:391C8181...@bigfoot.com...
>lcou...@stetson.edu wrote:
>>
>> Finally, for something completely different, B5 is now behind both
>> _Farscape_ and _Next Generation_ on the deja poll. Let's do something
>> about this!
>
>>Don't bother. Someone is cheating in order to keep Farscape on top. I
>>tried to "counter-cheat", but the person either has no life or a script
>>set up.
>
>>I decided that there are more important things in life.
>
>True, but we could give them a run for their money if only we knew the URL.
>Care to supply it?
>
>Shaz
http://www.deja.com/channels/channel.xp?CID 508
Steve
--
Steve Fenwick ab...@w0x0f.com
Hunyface
>20 pounds. My first me
If you are ever in the British Isles again try the Indian food....I lost wieght
in Europe as well. But I found the Indian food was great and all areas of
England have Indian restaurants.
cindy