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Mac Breck

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Jan 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/19/00
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If some network approached you and said:

We will pick up Crusade, but *only* if you go back and fix Season 1
(Definition of "fix": Remove TNT interference from the existing Season 1
episodes. Shoot the rest of the episodes that you would have had in Season
1. Put the 22 Season 1 episodes in the airing proper order.),


Would you do it?

Mac

Jms at B5

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Jan 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/20/00
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Of course.

But it would never happen. Not in a gazillion years.

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Mac Breck

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Jan 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/20/00
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Just didn't know if you were completely fed-up with the whole mess, and
wanted no part of it anymore, no matter what happened.

Mac


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Iain Reid

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Jan 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/22/00
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Or, more interestingly, if a network said to you. OK, we sen what happened
with Crusade - we thought it had potential but we realise TNT mucked it
up -but we really loved what you did with Babylon 5 and would love to pick
up a spin off - however, since the actors contracts have all expired from
Crusade - it would be easier if you just started a new show from scratch.
As long as we agree on the intitial concept - we'll give you the kind of
creative freedom you want. Would you do that?


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"Mac Breck" <macb...@timesnet.net> wrote in message
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> If some network approached you and said:
>
> We will pick up Crusade, but *only* if you go back and fix Season 1
> (Definition of "fix": Remove TNT interference from the existing Season 1
> episodes. Shoot the rest of the episodes that you would have had in
Season
> 1. Put the 22 Season 1 episodes in the airing proper order.),
>
>
> Would you do it?
>

> Mac
>
>


Mac Breck

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Jan 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/22/00
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Iain Reid <ia...@greysector.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Or, more interestingly, if a network said to you. OK, we sen what
happened
> with Crusade - we thought it had potential but we realise TNT mucked it
> up -but we really loved what you did with Babylon 5 and would love to pick
> up a spin off - however, since the actors contracts have all expired from
> Crusade - it would be easier if you just started a new show from scratch.
> As long as we agree on the intitial concept - we'll give you the kind of
> creative freedom you want. Would you do that?

Just because the actors contracts have expired, it doesn't mean you can't
get them back and signed onto a *new* contract. I liked the original cast.
They were really working well together.

Mac

Mark Maher

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Jan 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/22/00
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Mac Breck wrote in message ...
+AD4-
+AD4-Just because the actors contracts have expired, it doesn't mean you can't
+AD4-get them back and signed onto a +ACo-new+ACo- contract. I liked the original cast.
+AD4-They were really working well together.
+AD4-
+AD4-Mac

I suggest that you read the earlier posting by jms. Even if he is wrong and by
some miracle some one came out of the blue and promised to buy the whole first
season of +ACI-Crusade+ACI- for the price that TNT bought it for (or even a bit more),
it would be virtually impossible to get all of the actors re-signed. The one
thing that shows like +ACI-Crusade+ACI- tend to do is it gives actors a chance to really
shine because their characters aren't the ordinary parts. That makes it harder
to re-sign actors because they are generally finding or doing other work. To get
them back into that situation again, most agents would probably seek more for
their performers since their characters are already established (unless
explicitly told not to) and thus make them too expensive to pick back up.

I know there are people out there who really want to believe that if they just
kick and scream and post long enough and often enough that they can +ACI-wish+ACI- the
show back into existence. Maybe you can. I don't know - I'm just not one of
them.

The ever-pragmatic...

+AF8AXwAhAF8AIQBfAF8-
Gizmo


Mac Breck

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Jan 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/22/00
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Mark Maher <marka...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> Mac Breck wrote in message ...
>
> Just because the actors contracts have expired, it doesn't mean you can't
> get them back and signed onto a +ACo-new+ACo- contract. I liked the
original cast.
> They were really working well together.
>
> Mac
>
> I suggest that you read the earlier posting by jms.

I did read it.

> Even if he is wrong and by
> some miracle some one came out of the blue and promised to buy the whole
first

> season of "Crusade" for the price that TNT bought it for (or even a bit


more),
> it would be virtually impossible to get all of the actors re-signed.

I haven't seen them doing much.

> The one
> thing that shows like "Crusade" tend to do is it gives actors a chance to


really
> shine because their characters aren't the ordinary parts. That makes it
harder
> to re-sign actors because they are generally finding or doing other work.
To get
> them back into that situation again, most agents would probably seek more
for
> their performers since their characters are already established (unless
> explicitly told not to) and thus make them too expensive to pick back up.

True, if they feel that they are needed or wanted, they will ask for more,
and this will make it harder to get them back.

> I know there are people out there who really want to believe that if they
just

> kick and scream and post long enough and often enough that they can "wish"


the
> show back into existence.

Well, it did work for Trek.....

Not me, though. I believe shit happens, and that greed, pride, and
stupidity usually combine forces to thwart good things from happening.


> Maybe you can. I don't know - I'm just not one of them.

It probably can't be done. Crusade is probably 100% dead; NEVER in a
million years to be resurrected and done right. I probably have a better
chance of winning the Lottery by *not* buying any Lottery tickets.

> The ever-pragmatic...

Me: ever the pessemist with just the tiniest spark of hope/optimism left. I
keep trying to snuff it out, but the damn thing it keeps coming back. I
*really* wish it would go out. I'd be less conflicted.

Mac


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