ATTN JMS: TV Production Role
Ryan Bloom
information for a series in which to send a query letter.
I came across "Executive Story Consultant" but not Story Editor, is
Executive Story Consultant just another wording for Story Editor?
Jms at B5
>Executive Story Consultant just another wording for Story Editor?
>
No. A consultant can read scripts and give suggestions...a story editor
rewrites.
jms
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Tom Holt
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from rbl...@erols.com (Ryan Bloom) contains these words:
> Just a short question.... I was recently exploring the IMDB for
> information for a series in which to send a query letter.
> I came across "Executive Story Consultant" but not Story Editor, is
> Executive Story Consultant just another wording for Story Editor?
'Executive Story Consultant' is a TV industry technical term, usually
meaning somebody's brother-in-law who's incapable of getting any
other kind of paid work. It's a bit like a soup kitchen, except with
guacamole instead of chicken broth. Similar concepts include
'associate producer' (someone's brother-in-law who's too dumb to be
an executive story consultant) and 'technical consultant' (someone
with a mail-order science degree who gets a fleeting glimpse of the
script over dinner at his brother-in-law's house)
C. Bradley
> Similar concepts include 'associate producer' (someone's brother-in-law who's too
Hmm, I was always wondered why it said Patrick Stewart was Associate
Producer at the start of Star Trek IX. :)
Ciaran Bradley
Joseph Otten
Stewart never struck me as being particularly dumb. However he was on
the radio here in the UK a while back saying that he has no interest
whatever in science fiction. Never has had and never will have.
Somehow I respect that.
--
Joseph Otten
Tom Holt
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from joe....@virgin.net (Joseph Otten) contains these words:
I remember being taken to see Patrick Stewart in Shakespeare when I
was eight... and thereafter I was a tremendous fan of his work, both
stage and screen, right up to the point where he did ST:TNG. He was
amazingly versatile and stole every scene he was in, even when he was
young and playing bit parts with the RSC.
It's a great shame. He used to be one of the best actors in the
world, until Trek ruined him.
Jeff MacHott
>
> In article <383C2FF5...@net.ntl.com>, on 24 Nov 1999 11:37:33
> -0700, "C. Bradley" <c.br...@net.ntl.com> wrote:
>
> >Tom Holt wrote:
> >> Similar concepts include 'associate producer' (someone's brother-in-law who's too
> >> dumb to be an executive story consultant).
> >
> >Hmm, I was always wondered why it said Patrick Stewart was Associate
> >Producer at the start of Star Trek IX. :)
>
> Stewart never struck me as being particularly dumb. However he was on
> the radio here in the UK a while back saying that he has no interest
> whatever in science fiction. Never has had and never will have.
>
>
Yeah, he's a Shakespearian actor, IIRC, and he was also pretty cool as
Gurney Halleck in DUNE :*)
> --
> Joseph Otten
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DANIEL MORRIS
Sejanus.
10 points if you know where it comes from.
Danny
Shaz
"DANIEL MORRIS" <PUTE...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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Easy. I Claudius. Or I Clavdivs as my friends used to call it (jokingly, I
hasten to add!)
Shaz
Jaimie Winn
"It's a great shame. He (Stewart) used to be one of the best actors in
the world, until Trek ruined him."
"Trek ruined him".
Brian Watson
Maybe because he was in some wonderful and respectable roles until ST:TNG,
and afterwards got work in the shittiest movies I have ever seen. He was a
wonderful stage actor I hear, and was in many wonderful productions such as
"I Claudius," and since ST:TNG only seems to have found the worst possible
roles imaginable. Still, he has had some good works, I hear his one man
version of a Charle's Dickens "A Christmas Carol" was particularly good.
M.E, Tonkin
Brian Watson wrote:
Stewart will be starring as Scrooge in a TV film version of "A Christmas
Carol", to be shown Sunday December 5 on, dare I say it, TNT.
MET
Wesley Struebing
>Jaimie Winn wrote:
>
>> Tom Holt wrote:
>> "It's a great shame. He (Stewart) used to be one of the best actors in
>> the world, until Trek ruined him."
>> Could you please elaborate? I would be extremely interested to know how
>> "Trek ruined him".
>
>Maybe because he was in some wonderful and respectable roles until ST:TNG,
>and afterwards got work in the shittiest movies I have ever seen. He was a
>wonderful stage actor I hear, and was in many wonderful productions such as
>"I Claudius," and since ST:TNG only seems to have found the worst possible
>roles imaginable. Still, he has had some good works, I hear his one man
>version of a Charle's Dickens "A Christmas Carol" was particularly good.
>
Well, FWIW, he was *wonderful* in "Jeffery" ('course, I don't know
whether that was pre- or post- ST:NG...)
Gary Farber
: Just a short question.... I was recently exploring the IMDB for
: information for a series in which to send a query letter.
: I came across "Executive Story Consultant" but not Story Editor, is
: Executive Story Consultant just another wording for Story Editor?
It's usually the title given to a former producer or story editor who had
input into the script.
--
Copyright 1999 by Gary Farber; For Hire as: Web Researcher; Nonfiction
Writer, Fiction and Nonfiction Editor; gfa...@panix.com; Northeast US
Gary Farber
DANIEL MORRIS <PUTE...@prodigy.net> wrote:
: One name says it all for me when it comes to Patrick Stewart as an actor.
: Sejanus.
: 10 points if you know where it comes from.
If "I, Claudius" is obscure, then. . . wait, I forget where I'm posting.
Gary Farber
: On 25 Nov 1999 15:10:41 -0700, Brian Watson <ke...@cris.com> wrote:
[. . .]
:>Maybe because he was in some wonderful and respectable roles until ST:TNG,
:>and afterwards got work in the shittiest movies I have ever seen. He was a
:>wonderful stage actor I hear, and was in many wonderful productions such as
:>"I Claudius," and since ST:TNG only seems to have found the worst possible
:>roles imaginable. Still, he has had some good works, I hear his one man
:>version of a Charle's Dickens "A Christmas Carol" was particularly good.
: Well, FWIW, he was *wonderful* in "Jeffery" ('course, I don't know
: whether that was pre- or post- ST:NG...)
Your real name is "Billy Pilgrim"?
DANIEL MORRIS
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> "DANIEL MORRIS" <PUTE...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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actor.
> > Sejanus.
> >
> > 10 points if you know where it comes from.
> >
>
> Easy. I Claudius. Or I Clavdivs as my friends used to call it (jokingly, I
> hasten to add!)
>
> Shaz
>
>
>
>
Shaz gets the points... now find some place to use them <G>
Danny
Jacob Corbin
> If "I, Claudius" is obscure, then. . . wait, I forget where I'm
> posting.
Oh, give me a break. Somehow I doubt that the fast-paced world of sf
editing would have, statistically speaking, a larger population of
people who know the "I, C" books or films than here. But I forgot,
you're not trying to make a point...you just want to sing your own
praises from the ramparts, even if it's a venue as small as this one.
(Course, you'd think by now I'd have long since ceased to be startled by
random displays of masturbatory one-upsmanship on Usenet. Guess not,
though.)
Tom Holt
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from Jaiman...@webtv.net (Jaimie Winn) contains these words:
> Tom Holt wrote:
> "It's a great shame. He (Stewart) used to be one of the best actors in
> the world, until Trek ruined him."
> Could you please elaborate? I would be extremely interested to know how
> "Trek ruined him".
Simple. He used to be an extremely good actor. Now he isn't.
Jeffrey MacHott
>
>
>Brian Watson wrote:
>
>> Jaimie Winn wrote:
>>
>> > Tom Holt wrote:
>> > "It's a great shame. He (Stewart) used to be one of the best actors in
>> > the world, until Trek ruined him."
>> > Could you please elaborate? I would be extremely interested to know how
>> > "Trek ruined him".
>>
>> Maybe because he was in some wonderful and respectable roles until ST:TNG,
>> and afterwards got work in the shittiest movies I have ever seen. He was a
>> wonderful stage actor I hear, and was in many wonderful productions such as
>> "I Claudius," and since ST:TNG only seems to have found the worst possible
>> roles imaginable. Still, he has had some good works, I hear his one man
>> version of a Charle's Dickens "A Christmas Carol" was particularly good.
>
>Stewart will be starring as Scrooge in a TV film version of "A Christmas
>Carol", to be shown Sunday December 5 on, dare I say it, TNT.
>
He also played Napoleon the Drunken Insane Pig on Animal Farm :*)
>MET
>
>
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Andrew Wendel
Brian Watson <ke...@cris.com> wrote in message news:383DB303...@cris.com...
>
> Maybe because he was in some wonderful and respectable roles until ST:TNG,
> and afterwards got work in the shittiest movies I have ever seen. He was a
> wonderful stage actor I hear, and was in many wonderful productions such as
> "I Claudius," and since ST:TNG only seems to have found the worst possible
> roles imaginable. Still, he has had some good works, I hear his one man
> version of a Charle's Dickens "A Christmas Carol" was particularly good.
I watched a version of Hamlet he was in. Quite interesting. I just couldn't
get past him having hair. It just looked odd. I had that same feeling about
looking at pictures of my dad when he wasn't bald. Just odd.
Also, prior to Trek, Brent Spinner (sp?) was another stage actor. He is quite
good as well.
-
Andy
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>>posting.
Gary, it was a brilliant production. I loved it. Surprise.
>Oh, give me a break.
Eeeeeyaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh! <shriek!> Sorry. Gary tends to produce this
reaction in me.
<shakes head> I see. We're B5 fans; therefore we're just stupid media fans
who wouldn't recognize any other culture if it hit them. Sorry, I've been
an Anglophile for more years than I've been a B5 fan. I also (shockingly
enough) love mythology. I read compulsively; there are even piles of books
on my floor. (It was such a relief to hear of someone else with this
problem, an ex-teacher in town who can barely get into her house for all
the piles of books...)
>Somehow I doubt that the fast-paced world of sf editing would
>have, statistically speaking, a larger population of people who
>know the "I, C" books or films than here.
Well, Gary likes to think he's more cultured than any B5 fan, because we're
apparently the next thing to stupid mundanes. True, I've seen some bizarre
lapses in cultural literacy (like never having heard of Le Morte d'Arthur),
but not everyone can know everybloodything, and it's happened in other
newsgroups than just this one.
Oh, also, one of the honored moderators here stunned me once for never
having heard of Harriet Tubman; strangely, I'd heard of her from a very
young age (I'm in my 30s now) and respected her role in history... :-)
>But I forgot, you're not trying to make a point...you just want
>to sing your own praises from the ramparts, even if it's a
>venue as small as this one.
Well, yes, but that's him. He reminds me of the angry, contemptuous teacher
I once had, who asked if people had actually heard of the Bible; he's
compelled to call everyone else's intellect into question. Of course, in a
TV-obsessed culture, this is understandable, just not *quite* to the extent
that he takes it.
Jacob Corbin
> Well, Gary likes to think he's more cultured than any B5 fan, because
> we're
> apparently the next thing to stupid mundanes. True, I've seen some
> bizarre
> lapses in cultural literacy (like never having heard of Le Morte
> d'Arthur),
> but not everyone can know everybloodything, and it's happened in other
>
> newsgroups than just this one.
Well, yeah. In terms of intellect, the discussions here range the gamut
from idiotic ("Space: Above and Beyond rulez!") to insightful ("Well, I
think what Lennier did in 'Objects at Rest' was completely in character
for him. Here's why..."). And all this is going on without flames,
trolls, or other assorted usenet crap. The fact that this group is more
active now than it was six months ago speaks volumes about the
signal-to-noise ratio here.
Reverend Jake
http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/shirley/272/
WWS
Jacob Corbin wrote:
>
> Gary Farber wrote:
>
> > If "I, Claudius" is obscure, then. . . wait, I forget where I'm
> > posting.
>
> Oh, give me a break. Somehow I doubt that the fast-paced world of sf
> editing would have, statistically speaking, a larger population of
> people who know the "I, C" books or films than here. But I forgot,
> you're not trying to make a point...you just want to sing your own
> praises from the ramparts, even if it's a venue as small as this one.
And if anyone's familiar with "I, Claudius", B5 fans should be, as
it is one of the most basic underlying influences for the character
of Cartagia and the basic makeup of the Centauri court.
And I say that not just because Cartagia was based on Caligula, but
because the *Depiction* of Cartagia, the character and the way he
was acted, was virtually identical to the *Depiction* of Caligula
and the style of acting used to portray him in the televised production
of "I, Claudius", and quite different than any of the other depictions
of Caligula that have been done in movies throughout the years.
This is not any type of criticism or accusation - the character as
portrayed in "I,C" was one of the most chilling and yet compellingly
brilliant characters ever written, and it was well worth using the
model! For me, it was one of the cultural ref's that made B5 stand
out from the rest of what passes for televised entertainment these days.
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Gary Farber
: norv...@sirius.com wrote:
:> Well, Gary likes to think he's more cultured than any B5 fan, because
:> we're
:> apparently the next thing to stupid mundanes.
Oh, pish-tush. I'm a B5 fan, up to a point. I really must learn to not
make throw-away remarks, particularly mildly snotty ones. Plenty folks
who post here are highly literate and cultured. Some are not. I made a
passing rude remark, which I shouldn't have. My apologies. But it hardly
warrants deep analysis, whether of what I meant, what I think, my motives,
or of my True Beliefs. Honest.
[. . .]
: Well, yeah. In terms of intellect, the discussions here range the gamut
: from idiotic ("Space: Above and Beyond rulez!") to insightful ("Well, I
: think what Lennier did in 'Objects at Rest' was completely in character
: for him. Here's why...").
Absolutely.
: And all this is going on without flames,
: trolls, or other assorted usenet crap.
This, however, seems to be describing some other newsgroup. :-)
: The fact that this group is more
: active now than it was six months ago speaks volumes about the
: signal-to-noise ratio here.
[. . . .]
The Reverend Jacob Corbin
Gary Farber wrote:
> Oh, pish-tush. I'm a B5 fan, up to a point. I really must learn to not
> make throw-away remarks, particularly mildly snotty ones. Plenty folks
> who post here are highly literate and cultured. Some are not. I made a
> passing rude remark, which I shouldn't have. My apologies. But it hardly
> warrants deep analysis, whether of what I meant, what I think, my motives,
> or of my True Beliefs. Honest.
<RAISING ARIZONA>
Well okay, then.
</RAISING ARIZONA>
Jaimie Winn
I don't know if you can blame TNG for Stewart's poor career choices
since then.
I believe Stewart has a much wider name recognition since TNG, though.
BTW, have you seen "Gunmen"?
Stewart has a terrible role in that movie.
His delivery of the line "Don't F**k with me!!!" is "priceless" if you
like a good laugh.
Chris
Jaimie Winn
"Simple. He used to be an extremely good actor. Now he isn't."
Thank you for that well-reasoned and erudite argument. I don't know how
I could have missed that before! Of course! He was great, and now he's
not! How could I have been so blind? It's all so clear to me now.
Thank you for broadening my thinking on this issue.
Chris
Gary Farber
The Reverend Jacob Corbin <webm...@afriendlysbooks.com> wrote:
: Gary Farber wrote:
: <RAISING ARIZONA>
: Well okay, then.
: </RAISING ARIZONA>
My jammies have Yodas and shit on them, too. Sometimes it's a hard world
for small things.
Cassius81
Little stylistic note here: sarcasm works much better when it's brief and to
the point.
Of course, that's just my opinion.
Cassius' Quote of the Day:
JMS: "Actors are happy, crew are happy, everybody happy but Zathras...but
Zathras never happy...Zathras happy once, had friend once, but wheels fell off,
very sad...."
Tom Holt
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> Chris Wrote:
> >Tom Holt wrote:
> >"Simple. He used to be an extremely good actor. Now he isn't."
> >
> >Thank you for that well-reasoned and erudite argument. I don't know how
> >I could have missed that before! Of course! He was great, and now he's
> >not! How could I have been so blind? It's all so clear to me now.
> >Thank you for broadening my thinking on this issue.
> Little stylistic note here: sarcasm works much better when it's brief and to
> the point.
I see no reason to believe he was being sarcastic. Just properly grateful.