ATTN: JMS - dont leave us hangin
FAli
I dont think that there are enuf intelligent people working at the Network
studios.
I dont believe that crusade will be picked up.
I dont like being left hangin.
So what are you going to do? novels? online scripts? what? I am going nuts
over here.
Jms at B5
>
>So what are you going to do? novels? online scripts? what?
Something else.
jms
(jms...@aol.com)
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Mac Breck
Something else being.....
1. some other medium to tell the Crusade story, but you can't give us any of
the details right now,
or
2. something not Crusade, and we *are* left hanging (and well ... too bad,
so sad).
Mac
Jms at B5 <jms...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Tammy Smith
he's up to? :)
Tammy
Cam MacLeod
seriously I'm glad SOMETHING is planned.
Rat & Swan
> Sounds just like a Vorlon..... I really hate when you do that! But
> seriously I'm glad SOMETHING is planned.
*sputter* ...whaaaa?! Excuse me, y'all, but JMS has *nowhere* said he
plans to do anything more on Crusade! Review the question below
**carefully**
> Jms at B5 wrote:
> > >I dont like being left hangin.
> > >So what are you going to do? novels? online scripts? what?
> > Something else.
> > jms
Note that he said 'something *else*'
Meaning 'something ELSE... not Crusade. 'E is working on Other Stuph
now and has shuffled off this B5 coil. E's turned down his options,
cashed in his scripts, he's gone to join the bleedin choir external,
he's an EX-B5-er!
"'E's just restin!"
E's NOT, then! E's moved ON, Lads!
"E's pinin' for his Native Programs!"
E bloody well ISN't! It's GONE, then. Let go.
Swan
PS: If yer haven't read Final Reckonings, go get it and do so. Read.
Cry. Read some more. Cry some more. Good for ya!
Mac Breck
taken two ways, just like most Vorlon answers.
Mac
Rat & Swan <lab...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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in_vale...@hotmail.com
"Mac Breck" <macb...@timesnet.net> wrote:
> OK Kosh, what do you mean by that?
>
> Something else being.....
>
> 1. some other medium to tell the Crusade story, but you can't give us
any of
> the details right now,
>
> or
>
> 2. something not Crusade, and we *are* left hanging (and well ... too
bad,
> so sad).
Using my amazing Kreskin powers of speculation, I suspect #2.
"Something else" is probably his potential new tv pilot/series and that
novel he's shopping around, among other things.
I'd like to be at least a bit wrong here. I hope there will be some
closure to the Crusade arc and what happens/ed to the characters.
Some possiblities: 1) the JMS tales in Amazing Stories are such a hit
that they want more.
2) the Technomage trilogy may cover some of the ground, especially
considering what the Crusade writer's guide implies between Galen and
Gideon.
3) that orginal novel may be similar to what David Gerrold did with
VOYAGE OF THE STAR WOLF, and let JMS explore the ideas and themes he
wanted to in Crusade, but with new characters and notably changed
settings.
BTW, an e-mail with Del Rey editor Steve Staffel suggests that the
future of the books depend on the sales of the next trilogies. The Psi-
Corps books have been solid journeyman storytelling, so give 'em a try,
if you want to see more. To my mind, Del Rey's unconventional approach
to the novels makes them the best place to continue and resolve the
elements of Crusade, even if blended into B5 stories.
scott tilson.
> Jms at B5 <jms...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:19991008002716...@ng-bj1.aol.com...
> > >I dont like being left hangin.
> > >
> > >So what are you going to do? novels? online scripts? what?
> >
> > Something else.
> >
> > jms
> >
> > (jms...@aol.com)
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
in_vale...@hotmail.com
jms...@aol.com (Jms at B5) wrote:
> >I dont like being left hangin.
> >
> >So what are you going to do? novels? online scripts? what?
>
> Something else.
>
> jms
On that note, how's the 98% mainstream/2% speculative series pilot
coming? Do you know when that BEYOND 2000 radio series you're adapting
"March of the Morons" for starts airing? How's the novel progressing
(and may we know what genre it is)?
scott tilson.
Brian Watson
> >I dont like being left hangin.
> >
> >So what are you going to do? novels? online scripts? what?
>
> Something else.
>
> jms
It scares me when you do this. Keep it up, I like it Uncle
Joe!
*grin*
ImRastro
>Joe!
Not sure this is an apt reference.....not a name JMS would choose I think.
historically speaking that is.
Christian Smith
>3) that orginal novel may be similar to what David Gerrold did with
>VOYAGE OF THE STAR WOLF,
?
I have this book sitting unread on my shelf. What's it about? What do
you mean in this context about it's story?
Christian
ICQ 45494039
"I spent all night chasing after some bloke who turned out to be mad.
Completely mad.
He had every episode of Melrose Place. On tape."
no one of consequence
Mac Breck <macb...@timesnet.net> wrote:
]OK Kosh, what do you mean by that?
]
]Something else being.....
]
]
]1. some other medium to tell the Crusade story, but you can't give us any of
]the details right now,
]
]or
]
]2. something not Crusade, and we *are* left hanging (and well ... too bad,
]so sad).
An anime version of Crusade?
["Sir, the third bridge has been destroyed!"]
;-)
--
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in_vale...@hotmail.com
chri...@tesco.net (Christian Smith) wrote:
> Previously...On Melrose Place.... in_vale...@hotmail.com wrote
>
> >3) that orginal novel may be similar to what David Gerrold did with
> >VOYAGE OF THE STAR WOLF,
>
> ?
> I have this book sitting unread on my shelf. What's it about? What do
> you mean in this context about it's story?
It's a good read. But it's also a neat bit of curio. Dave was heavily
involved in the creation of ST:TNG, though you'd never know it by the
show's credits. Gerrold almost completely created Data and wrote the
series bible, I hear, but things were settle out of court. The novel,
while very much his own thing, also seems to be a reaction to TNG.
M.E.Tonkin
Are you sure about Gerrold creating Data? Because I always assumed
that character had his origins in a TV film-pilot Roddenberry
did between ST:TOS and ST:TNG called The Questor Tapes, about
an android on present day Earth searching for his creator.
MET
Mac Breck
Mac
no one of consequence <wol...@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
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Brian Watson
Historically speaking, it's hardly the first time anyone has used 'Uncle Joe.'
ImRastro
Perhaps in recent history. Go a little further back friend. :)
in_vale...@hotmail.com
Data wouldn't have happened without Roddenberry. Story goes that
Gerrold was disinterested, but Gene kept pestering him, "If you did,
what would he be like?"
But back to B5 ... :)
I hope JMS finds *some* venue to tell the themes and ideas in new
stories, that he would've in Crusade. I see the final Psi-Corps novel
is set after Crusade (I've only gotten about 30 pages into it, but I
have to say I love the pacing, clean crisp prose, and the genuine
mystery of "what will happen next" that the other 2 didn't really have)
and am eager to see what other tidbits of info are dropped there other
that how many new worlds the Excaliber opened up.
Alison Weinstock
> In article <3800A7D2...@erols.com>,
> "M.E.Tonkin" <met...@erols.com> wrote:
> >
> > Are you sure about Gerrold creating Data? Because I always assumed
> > that character had his origins in a TV film-pilot Roddenberry
> > did between ST:TOS and ST:TNG called The Questor Tapes, about
> > an android on present day Earth searching for his creator.
>
> Data wouldn't have happened without Roddenberry. Story goes that
> Gerrold was disinterested, but Gene kept pestering him, "If you did,
> what would he be like?"
Did you ever see The Questor Tapes? Questor was VERY like Data (played
quizzically by Robert Foxworth.) I can see Roddenberry consulting with
David because of his affinity for artificial intelligence, but Data's
personality and mannerisms and Pinocchio-ish search spring right from
Questor.
Alison
John W. Kennedy
>
> OK Kosh, what do you mean by that?
>
> Something else being.....
>
> 1. some other medium to tell the Crusade story, but you can't give us any of
> the details right now,
(Sigh!)
Don't you see? There _is_ no "other medium to tell the Crusade story,"
with the remotely possible exception of comicbooks. As much as
"Crusade" is the story of the crew of the starship "Excalibur", it is
also the story of seven actors, 110 scripts, and a bunch of sets,
microphones, and cameras.
That's a totally crappy explanation.
But I have _some_ talent as a writer, so if I can't do better than that,
then even Joe probably can't do a _great_ job of explaining it, at least
in the compass of a USENET post.
But it's true, all the same. Maybe if you meditate on it, you'll be
enlightened. I wish I could put it better, though.
--
-John W. Kennedy
-rri...@ibm.net
Compact is becoming contract
Man only earns and pays. -- Charles Williams
Jaimie Winn
for Data came from The Questor Tapes (Story by Gene Roddenberry,
Teleplay by Gene Roddenberry and Gene L. Coon, and Novelization by D.C.
Fontana).
Jason D. McClary
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In article <37FE45...@pacbell.net> , Rat & Swan <lab...@pacbell.net>
wrote:
> *sputter* ...whaaaa?! Excuse me, y'all, but JMS has *nowhere* said he
> plans to do anything more on Crusade! Review the question below
> **carefully**
>
>
>> Jms at B5 wrote:
>
>> > >I dont like being left hangin.
>
>> > >So what are you going to do? novels? online scripts? what?
>
>> > Something else.
>
>> > jms
Excuse me, reread the ENTIRE question. It was asked about Crusade not what
JMS was doing in general.
> I am a pessimist..
>
> I don't think that there are enuf intelligent people working at the Network
> studios.
> I don't believe that crusade will be picked up.
>
> I don't like being left hangin.
>
> So what are you going to do? novels? online scripts? what? I am going nuts
> over here.
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Paul Harper
>>I dont like being left hangin.
>>
>>So what are you going to do? novels? online scripts? what?
>
>Something else.
Given your background in Radio drama, is this area being considered?
That would be SUCH a cool way to do an original sci-fi series.
Paul.
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Mac Breck
John W. Kennedy <rri...@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Mac Breck wrote:
> >
> > OK Kosh, what do you mean by that?
> >
> > Something else being.....
> >
> > 1. some other medium to tell the Crusade story, but you can't give us
any of
> > the details right now,
>
> (Sigh!)
>
> Don't you see? There _is_ no "other medium to tell the Crusade story,"
> with the remotely possible exception of comicbooks. As much as
> "Crusade" is the story of the crew of the starship "Excalibur", it is
> also the story of seven actors, 110 scripts, and a bunch of sets,
> microphones, and cameras.
Then Crusade is truly DEAD and there is no hope, which I think I put as
option #2 something not Crusade, and we *are* left hanging (and well ... too
bad, so sad).
I think novels are the only way to complete the story, except that nobody is
willing to invest the time and energy to produce them. Joe only wants to do
TV, and TV isn't interested in Crusade.
Mac
John W. Kennedy
And The Questor Tapes was inspired by "I, Robot" by Eando Binder, and
that was inspired by Karel Capek's "R.U.R", which was inspired by
"Frankenstein, or The Modern Prometheus" by Mary Wollstonecraft
Shelley. One might also mention in this connection the Homunculus
subplot of Goethe's "Faust".
Gharlane of Eddore
Jaimie Winn wrote:
>
> I can't remeber where I read it, but the story goes that
> the inspiration for Data came from The Questor Tapes
> and Gene L. Coon, and Novelization by D.C. Fontana).
>
Try "Sam Peeples." Gene Coon wrote the script from the format
provided by Goddenberry and Peeples. ( And Dottie Fontana was
on-hand during the production, and probably had as much
uncredited input to the effort as Sam Peeples did. )
And it wasn't so much as "inspiration" as Goddenberry just
recycling a character he liked a lot once he actually got a
show into production..
In <38061F79...@attglobal.net> rri...@attglobal.net writes:
>
> And The Questor Tapes was inspired by "I, Robot" by Eando Binder, and
> that was inspired by Karel Capek's "R.U.R", which was inspired by
> "Frankenstein, or The Modern Prometheus" by Mary Wollstonecraft
> Shelley. One might also mention in this connection the Homunculus
> subplot of Goethe's "Faust".
>
Please don't be ridiculous; your assertions imply that Goddenberry
had some familiarity with the works you cite, which assertion is
to put it mildly, more than somewhat debateable.
"Eando" Binder's stories in "I, ROBOT" owed nothing to "R.U.R.,"
which in turn had almost nothing to do with Mary Shelley's book.
And if you're going to jerk references out of thin air without
the slightest connectional validity ( "FAUST" ) you might as well
drag in Talos, the classic Jewish Golem, and the Barsoomian
androids from Edgar Rice Burroughs.....
We *do* have an extant citation that indicates that Goddenberry
had been loaned a copy of Asimov's "I, ROBOT," which includes
a story concerning a robot masquerading as a human to work for
humanity's good, and we *do* have an extant citation indicating
that Goddenberry had read at least the first novelette in Eric
Russell's "MEN, MARTIANS, AND MACHINES," titled "JAY SCORE."
But please don't wander around the Net asserting Goddenberrian
"inspiration" from classic literature the man never went near,
and palpably unconnected to his work. You will embarrass us all
if anyone with an I.Q. ever reads your off-handed fabrications.