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Tammy Smith

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Aug 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/19/99
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Some people seem to think that your new series is Phoenix Rising, a
possible new Star Trek spinoff. I hope it isn't, because, for one
thing, it has the same title as one of your B5 episodes (& I'm sure you
just hate that!). Can you confirm or deny this rumor?

Tammy

Jms at B5

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Aug 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/20/99
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No, totally and completely untrue. I don't know where this stuff comes from.

Some folks at Paramount have indicated privately that it'd be great if I could
take over the ST TV franchise but I have no interest whatsoever in doing that.


jms

(jms...@aol.com)
B5 Official Fan Club at:
http://www.thestation.com

Tammy Smith

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Aug 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/20/99
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Good--I was hoping it wasn't true, even though ST certainly needs some
new blood.

Tammy

James Gassaway

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Aug 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/20/99
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Jms at B5 (jms...@aol.com) wrote:
: >Some people seem to think that your new series is Phoenix Rising, a

: >possible new Star Trek spinoff. I hope it isn't, because, for one
: >thing, it has the same title as one of your B5 episodes (& I'm sure you
: >just hate that!). Can you confirm or deny this rumor?
:
: No, totally and completely untrue. I don't know where this stuff comes
: from.
:
: Some folks at Paramount have indicated privately that it'd be great if
: I could take over the ST TV franchise but I have no interest whatsoever
: in doing that.
:
Oh God! LOL! Wouldn't that just be a major kick-in-the-pants for "B5
stinks 'cause it ain't Star Trek!" crowd. Hee hee. Come on people, how
do we convince him to change his mind? <snicker giggle>

--
Multiversal Mercenaries, "You name it, we kill it, any time, any reality."
WarForce Omega, Task Force "Stellar Death"


BRETNTRACI

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Aug 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/21/99
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>Some people seem to think that your new series is Phoenix Rising, a
>possible new Star Trek spinoff. I hope it isn't, because, for one
>thing, it has the same title as one of your B5 episodes (& I'm sure you
>just hate that!). Can you confirm or deny this rumor?

The way I understand it PR is a SF show based on an old Gene Roddenberry series
but is not a Trek show. It's not made by Paramount nor does it involve JMS.


BRETNTRACI

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Aug 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/21/99
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>Some folks at Paramount have indicated privately that it'd be great if I
>could
>take over the ST TV franchise but I have no interest whatsoever in doing
>that.

But, Joe you could make it good again.


LK

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Aug 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/21/99
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On 20 Aug 1999 22:45:41 -0600, dtr...@linex.com (James Gassaway)
wrote:

>Jms at B5 (jms...@aol.com) wrote:

>: >Some people seem to think that your new series is Phoenix Rising, a


>: >possible new Star Trek spinoff. I hope it isn't, because, for one
>: >thing, it has the same title as one of your B5 episodes (& I'm sure you
>: >just hate that!). Can you confirm or deny this rumor?

>:
>: No, totally and completely untrue. I don't know where this stuff comes
>: from.
>:

>: Some folks at Paramount have indicated privately that it'd be great if


>: I could take over the ST TV franchise but I have no interest whatsoever
>: in doing that.

>:
>Oh God! LOL! Wouldn't that just be a major kick-in-the-pants for "B5
>stinks 'cause it ain't Star Trek!" crowd. Hee hee. Come on people, how
>do we convince him to change his mind? <snicker giggle>

Offer JMS a 20 extra years of life, before "it's called on account of
darkness," so he can continue to write.

Then again considering Paramount's previous "influences" of JMS
efforts....

Beside JMS has a good heart and would be kind enough to take "Voyager"
off of sustained life-support. (It'd be interesting to see how much
more baritone Janeway would become to compete with Sherdian, Delenn,
and Lochely. --Janeway never has answers, she just lowers her voice.)

LK

Brian Watson

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Aug 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/21/99
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BRETNTRACI wrote:

> >Some folks at Paramount have indicated privately that it'd be great if I
> could
> >take over the ST TV franchise but I have no interest whatsoever in doing
> >that.
>

> But, Joe you could make it good again.

I'm sure he could. And I'm sure that many ST fans would form suicide cults
all across America at the thought of the creator of B5 taking control of
their beloved Star Trek.


Maybe it's not such a bad idea after all. C'mon Joe, go for it.

Roanna

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Aug 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/22/99
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Life is too short to wish that kind of heartache on anybody. I'd be expecting a
Klingon hit squad, myself.

Roanna

Greg Corbin

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Aug 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/22/99
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Brian Watson wrote:

>
>
> Maybe it's not such a bad idea after all. C'mon Joe, go for it.

'Cause I'm sure the thought of being enshrined/burned in effigy by
*two* schizophrenic fanbases appeals to JMS no end...

Reverend Jake
feel my pain at http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/shirley/272/


Rick Gridley

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Aug 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/22/99
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Phoenix Rising IS NOT A STAR TREK spinoff.
Its not even a Paramount production.


MattS1

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Aug 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/25/99
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>Life is too short to wish that kind of heartache on anybody. I'd be expecting
>a
>Klingon hit squad, myself.

HA! They wouldn't stand a chance against the Narn Bat Squad!

*WHAM*WHAM*WHAM*WHAM*WHAM*

"Give my regards to oblivion." -Dr. Smith, Lost in Space: The Movie
"Um, if you guys are gonna shoot each other why don't you let Otis and I get
out of the way?" -Quinn Mallory, Genesis(Sliders Season 4 premiere)


A Jensen

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Aug 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/25/99
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JMS:

Have you talked with other outlets for Crusade -- Showtime comes to mind.
They have a fairly good scifi Friday night lineup. I remember you commented
once that you had heard that Stargate was being produced on an arc (comment:
not really -- while there are common characters and plot lines, there is not
a sense that it is going somewhere). Total Recall 2070 is somewhat
compelling and they have followed a story line throughout approach. Outer
Limits is straight anthology. I have no idea how hard it is to break into a
premium channel lineup or even what the finances are, but is this a
possibility?


Allan Jensen
al...@macconnect.com
Aim High!


Simo Aaltonen

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Aug 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/25/99
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On 20 Aug 1999 16:45:24 -0600, Jms at B5 <jms...@aol.com> wrote:
>Some folks at Paramount have indicated privately that it'd be great if I could
>take over the ST TV franchise but I have no interest whatsoever in doing that.

I don't know what to think about that! On one hand, JMS would really show
how much there is room for improvement in the new Treks, but on the other
hand, he'd be playing with someone else's characters, many of which are
simply ill-conceived... As a sometime Trek viewer I'd love to see what
he'd do with the ST universe.

But I would much rather see him start something new and exciting. After
all, too much damage has been done to the Treks... JMS's involvement at
this stage would be coming in too late, really.

Here's to new frontiers (no capitals)!

-Simo Aaltonen
---
"Wood is food.
Food is good.

So wood is good.

But what of wine in pine?
Into the wooden vessel it pours,
but the vessel, is it yours?"


Roanna

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Aug 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/26/99
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> Have you talked with other outlets for Crusade --
> Showtime comes to mind.
>

WB television domestic division (may have exact title wrong
here) owns the rights. JMS/Babylonian do not decide which
networks to try to sell to.

If WB doesn't want to sell, don't matter who's interested. They
have only shopped the show to TNT and SFC. (JMS said this on
another usenet thread).

Roanna


Brian Watson

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Aug 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/28/99
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Roanna wrote:

> Life is too short to wish that kind of heartache on anybody. I'd be expecting a
> Klingon hit squad, myself.

If people are so screwed up that they would form suicide cults over a television
show, then they are more screwed up than anything and would form suicide cults over
getting the wrong order at a fast food joint. They're screwed up, they'd kill
themselves over any number of things.

> Brian Watson wrote:


>
> > BRETNTRACI wrote:
> >
> > > >Some folks at Paramount have indicated privately that it'd be great if I
> > > could
> > > >take over the ST TV franchise but I have no interest whatsoever in doing
> > > >that.
> > >

> > > But, Joe you could make it good again.
> >
> > I'm sure he could. And I'm sure that many ST fans would form suicide cults
> > all across America at the thought of the creator of B5 taking control of
> > their beloved Star Trek.
> >

Roanna

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Aug 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/28/99
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> If people are so screwed up that they would form
> suicide cults over a television
> show, then they are more screwed up than anything
> and would form suicide cults over
> getting the wrong order at a fast food joint.
> They're screwed up, they'd kill
> themselves over any number of things.
>
>
>

I believe the reference to ST suicide cults was a joke, Brian.
Inasmuch as suicide can ever be a joke.

Roanna


in_vale...@hotmail.com

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Aug 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/29/99
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In article <19990821160848...@ng-co1.aol.com>,
bretn...@aol.com (BRETNTRACI) wrote:

>>JMS said:
> >Some folks at Paramount have indicated privately that it'd be great
if I
> >could
> >take over the ST TV franchise but I have no interest whatsoever in
doing
> >that.
>
> But, Joe you could make it good again.

My best hope is that Joe's new series pilot becomes an ongoing series,
and a successful one at that.

But if that fails to happen, I hope he will reconsider the Trek
offer... at least conditionally. JMS has said all he wants to be able
to do is have a forum to tell interesting stories about interesting
characters and allegories for the human condition. That's what ST was
all about, in the classic series at least. If JMS could negociate a
deal to produce a *new* STAR TREK series--say set in the 25th century
on a new Enterprise with a new cast of characters created by him and a
whole new staff of producers/story editors/writers such as Melinda
Snodgrass, Larry DiTillo, D.C. Fontana, David Gerrold, Geoge R.R.
Martin, Steven Barnes, Larry Niven, Neil Gaiman, Harlan Ellison, Fiona
Avery, and maybe Peter David--he and other writers could do those kind
of stories. And as DS9 and Voyageur show, the name Trek on the series
will incline viewers and the PTB to give it more of a chance. Then
they can be hooked by more than mere slick production values, but with
genuinely bold aventurous storytelling again.

Please think about it, Joe.

scott tilson.


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John Miller

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Aug 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/31/99
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My feelings are mixed on this. I think Crusade has shown that JMS can out
Trek the best of Paramount without even trying. However, TNT's
blasphemies are nothing compared to what the merchandise feaks at
Paramount would want him to do.
In spite of that, I would LOVE to see Trek done right and I think Joe has
the talent and brass to pull it off.
John
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