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Russell J. Graville

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Aug 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/14/99
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I just noticed that "The Needs of Earth" has been given a TV-14(DS) rating
which is for sexual content and language. Wasn't this one of the ones
written before TNT asked for more sex and violence in the show? Has JMS
mentioned anything about this?

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Jms at B5

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Aug 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/15/99
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>I just noticed that "The Needs of Earth" has been given a TV-14(DS) rating
>which is for sexual content and language. Wasn't this one of the ones
>written before TNT asked for more sex and violence in the show? Has JMS
>mentioned anything about this?

No, this is actually pretty stupid...there's one shot where they think a nipple
is visible (it isn't, we were very careful in editing) and another where they
think a Eilerson says "goddamnit," but he doesn't.


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Kurt Reisler

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Aug 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/16/99
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In article <19990815023410...@ng-fo1.aol.com>,

Jms at B5 <jms...@aol.com> wrote:
>>I just noticed that "The Needs of Earth" has been given a TV-14(DS) rating
>>which is for sexual content and language. Wasn't this one of the ones
>>written before TNT asked for more sex and violence in the show? Has JMS
>>mentioned anything about this?
>
>No, this is actually pretty stupid...there's one shot where they think a nipple
>is visible (it isn't, we were very careful in editing) and another where they
>think a Eilerson says "goddamnit," but he doesn't.
>
>
> jms
>

I should know better than this, but...

If you go to the TNT Crusade web site, and look at the images which they
have on-line for this particular episode, you may be struck by the first
image, which is at

http://tnt.turner.com/crusade/log_11_img/log11_pic_01.jpg

When I first saw it, I thought to myself, has this site been hacked? Perhaps
this was the image which they had in mind (and if so, is its inclusion in
the web site deliberate?) when the episode was rated. I know I am jumping to
conclusions here, but if I assume that this frame was editted out, why is it
in the web page?

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Kurt Reisler

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Aug 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/19/99
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In article <7p9mau$20...@umbc7.umbc.edu>, Kurt Reisler <k...@umbc.edu> wrote:
>In article <19990815023410...@ng-fo1.aol.com>,
>Jms at B5 <jms...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>I just noticed that "The Needs of Earth" has been given a TV-14(DS) rating
>>>which is for sexual content and language. Wasn't this one of the ones
>>>written before TNT asked for more sex and violence in the show? Has JMS
>>>mentioned anything about this?
>>
>>No, this is actually pretty stupid...there's one shot where they think a nipple
>>is visible (it isn't, we were very careful in editing) and another where they
>>think a Eilerson says "goddamnit," but he doesn't.
>>
>>
>> jms
>>
>
>I should know better than this, but...
>
>If you go to the TNT Crusade web site, and look at the images which they
>have on-line for this particular episode, you may be struck by the first
>image, which is at
>
> http://tnt.turner.com/crusade/log_11_img/log11_pic_01.jpg
>
>When I first saw it, I thought to myself, has this site been hacked? Perhaps
>this was the image which they had in mind (and if so, is its inclusion in
>the web site deliberate?) when the episode was rated. I know I am jumping to
>conclusions here, but if I assume that this frame was editted out, why is it
>in the web page?
>

I really hate it when I have to respond to my own postings :-)

After watching "TNOE" last night, I would have to speculate that the
frame on the TNT web site is one that was cut from the final edit of
the episode. While the alien porn sequence was shown at least 3 times
(twice in Gideon's office and once on the planet), the opening sequence
(from which this frame appears to come), is only shown once, at a
distance, and briefly.

So, we get back to the old "was this deliberate" speculation?

I guess the concept of multi-species alien porn was enough to make some
folks nervous. I did like the way Gideon made use of it, both time :-)

Thomas Fitzgerald Van Horne

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Aug 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/20/99
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I must be a tad dim here-- the following follow-up was bounced back to me by
the moderators saying that I hadn't included a spoiler warning. What in this
post is a spoiler? The fact that Gideon is watching a video? The fact that
the nipple shot is not in the show? This as opposed to

" While the alien porn sequence was shown at least 3 times
>(twice in Gideon's office and once on the planet), the opening sequence
>(from which this frame appears to come), is only shown once, at a
>distance, and briefly."

which DIDN'T require spoiler space???? Very confused.

> Yeah, I HAVE to say-- not that I'm a pervert nipple-freak or anything (well,

> that's neither here nor there), but I had to check out that shot on the
> web-site and yep that there's whatcha call a nipple and that shot is NOT in
> the show.
>
> So what's with making this (a scene from a video that Gideon's watching that

> isn't even in the show) THE tag image for the episode on the web site?
>
> Freakin' wierd man, freakin' wierd.

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