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James Bell

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Jul 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/4/99
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Am I the only one here who finds Woodward's Galen annoying? He just
gets on my nerves. It isn't the writing. . .his lines seem ok. It is
the acting. Anyone else feel this way? I can't say that he's a bad
actor, perhaps he's being directed this way. I don't know. I prefer
Gideon, Matheson, Eilerson, and the unseen and unheard Chambers over a
screenful of Galen.

Jim

Ken Offer

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Jul 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/4/99
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I disagree. I think Galen is a wound-up Techno-maige with lots of
repressed emotional baggage, not to mention a superiority complex
that most Techno-maige's have. Woodward imparts that attitude very
nicely.


Adnan Virk

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Jul 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/4/99
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You're definetly not the only one. He is too Kosh-ish first of all.
Every word he says is so overstated, and it just looks real deliberate.
Plus Galen featured prominently in the last 3 episodes (more so in the
previous 2).....I would rather learn more about Matheson (who is looking
like he could be a real great character) or Dureena (ok so I think she's
good looking.)

Diane K De

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>Am I the only one here who finds Woodward's Galen annoying? He just
>gets on my nerves. It isn't the writing. . .his lines seem ok. It is
>the acting. Anyone else feel this way? I can't say that he's a bad
>actor, perhaps he's being directed this way. I don't know. I prefer
>Gideon, Matheson, Eilerson, and the unseen and unheard Chambers over a
>screenful of Galen.
>
>Jim
>

LOL! On a mailing list I belong to I just said something similar. I thought
that if I had long exposure to this guy, I might be tempted to slap him around
a little.

A little bit of Galen goes a long way, IMO.

DD


WRH Bill

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Jul 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/4/99
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>Am I the only one here who finds Woodward's Galen annoying? He just
>gets on my nerves.

No, you're not the only one. I liked Galen at first, but he's getting on my
nerves too with his twee manner of speech and his snotty treatment of the other
crew members. He needs some kind of comeuppance and a dose of humility if he's
going to be a tolerable character over the long run (not, alas, that it appears
likely CRUSADE is going to *have* a long run, though we can still hope).

Personally, I would like to see more development of the Eilerson character, and
maybe even a sense that the fact he has personal profit in mind from his
explorations in space doesn't make him either a fool or a scumbag.


Jms at B5

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Jul 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/5/99
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Bear in mind that you were never meant to see this much Galen in a row; the
short order meant clumping his shows together. You'll now get a bunch
*without* him. The theory was to sprinkle him in along the way.

jms

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http://www.thestation.com

Kailin

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Jul 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/5/99
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James Bell wrote:
>
> Am I the only one here who finds Woodward's Galen annoying? He just
> gets on my nerves. It isn't the writing. . .his lines seem ok. It is
> the acting. Anyone else feel this way? I can't say that he's a bad
> actor, perhaps he's being directed this way. I don't know. I prefer
> Gideon, Matheson, Eilerson, and the unseen and unheard Chambers over a
> screenful of Galen.
>
> Jim


Those last three words are all that registered on my retina "screenful
of Galen". Can I have that screenful of Galen 24-7? Thank you very much.


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Tammy Smith

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Sorry--I like Galen! It's the voice-thing again (I also like G'Kar's
voice)! And I think Woodward is a good actor. Not that I don't also
lke the other people on the show--they are also good.

Tammy

MarcusCoIe

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> It isn't the writing. . .his lines seem ok. It is
>the acting. Anyone else feel this way? I can't say that he's a bad
>actor, perhaps he's being directed this way.

What I see, and this could be just me too, but it almost seems that they are
trying to make Galen out to be a "Kosh-type" character.

I mean, all the questions in the opening credits are purely Vorlon. And as we
all know, Galen asked those questions of Gideon at the end of the first
episode. So what we have here is a Kosh-Wannabe.


Allan Jenoff

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Jul 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/5/99
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Ken Offer wrote:
>
> James Bell wrote:
> >
> > Am I the only one here who finds Woodward's Galen annoying? He just

> > gets on my nerves. It isn't the writing. . .his lines seem ok. It is


> > the acting. Anyone else feel this way? I can't say that he's a bad

> > actor, perhaps he's being directed this way. I don't know. I prefer
> > Gideon, Matheson, Eilerson, and the unseen and unheard Chambers over a
> > screenful of Galen.
> >

You aren't. I find Woodward overacts in every scene. I have to assume
this is the direction he has been given and it isn't very good.

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Mac Breck

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Jul 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/5/99
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Yes.

Mac (Kosh)


James Bell wrote in message <377E8C7B...@naxs.com>...

Rob Levandowski

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Jul 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/5/99
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In article <377E8C7B...@naxs.com>, James Bell <jam...@naxs.com> wrote:

>Am I the only one here who finds Woodward's Galen annoying? He just
>gets on my nerves. It isn't the writing. . .his lines seem ok. It is
>the acting. Anyone else feel this way? I can't say that he's a bad
>actor, perhaps he's being directed this way. I don't know. I prefer
>Gideon, Matheson, Eilerson, and the unseen and unheard Chambers over a
>screenful of Galen.

I really like Galen. My take on it is that Galen (the character)
intentionally overacts... and that it's part of being a larger-than-life
technomage.

Heck, I'd be a technomage if I could! I'd love to give my users cryptic
answers cloaked in wizardly unassailable credibility. Hey, Joe, if you
were to sell technomage robes with the appropriate appointments (inside
pockets for cellphone, pager, PalmPilot, set of screwdrivers, cables,
spare parts, etc.) I'd be first in line to buy one! ;)

Hey, if I wanted to be a technomage, would I have to shave my head?

Rob

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ro...@macwhiz.com


al...@cascoind.com

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Jul 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/6/99
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In article <19990704095459...@ng-cc1.aol.com>,

dian...@aol.com (Diane K De) wrote:
> >Am I the only one here who finds Woodward's Galen annoying? He just
> >gets on my nerves. It isn't the writing. . .his lines seem ok. It is
> >the acting. Anyone else feel this way? I can't say that he's a bad
> >actor, perhaps he's being directed this way. I don't know. I prefer
> >Gideon, Matheson, Eilerson, and the unseen and unheard Chambers over a
> >screenful of Galen.
> >
> >Jim
> >
>
> LOL! On a mailing list I belong to I just said something similar. I thought
> that if I had long exposure to this guy, I might be tempted to slap him around
> a little.
>
> A little bit of Galen goes a long way, IMO.
>
> DD
>
>

I wouldn't be suprised if a lot of the time the other characters feels that
way as well. Remember JMS said that as he had planned for the shows to air,
Galen was going to be there, then go away for a while, then come back. I'm
sure the other characters would also like to slap him around occasionally if
they could figure out how to keep from having their email accounts put on
every spamlist there is :) A little 'I know soooo much about the universe...
just trust me... and bring me a fig newton, there's a good boy' goes a long
way with _anyone_ (Remember... just because a character has annoying
attributes doesn't mean those attributes are being misrepresented :)

Alice


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Kailin

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Jul 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/6/99
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Rob Levandowski wrote:
>
> In article <377E8C7B...@naxs.com>, James Bell <jam...@naxs.com> wrote:> >screenful of Galen.

>
> I really like Galen. My take on it is that Galen (the character)
> intentionally overacts... and that it's part of being a larger-than-life
> technomage.
>
> Heck, I'd be a technomage if I could! I'd love to give my users cryptic
> answers cloaked in wizardly unassailable credibility. Hey, Joe, if you
> were to sell technomage robes with the appropriate appointments (inside
> pockets for cellphone, pager, PalmPilot, set of screwdrivers, cables,
> spare parts, etc.) I'd be first in line to buy one! ;)
>
> Hey, if I wanted to be a technomage, would I have to shave my head?
>
> Rob
>

Ummmm, Peter doesn't shave his head, it comes that way.


> --

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Alex Thorpe

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Jul 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/8/99
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In article <db7_990...@salata.com>, kay.s...@salata.com (Kay
Shapero) wrote:

> JB>Am I the only one here who finds Woodward's Galen annoying? He
>
>I suspect Galen is *supposed* to be annoying. Upredictable, not under
>anybody's authority, with his own agenda and basically the Excalibur's
>every own loose cannon.

True, the ship's councelor he ain't. I'd still love to BE him, though.

--

-Alex

"Common Sense Ain't"


Dianne Heins

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Jul 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/8/99
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Kailin wrote...

>
> Ummmm, Peter doesn't shave his head, it comes that way.

You mean he never has to cut the hair he does have? Wow, he *must* be
a technomage :)

Dianne


Patrick Marshall

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Jul 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/12/99
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In article <19990704212614...@ng-ff1.aol.com>,
In the event that Crusade is picked up for completion of the first
season, and (hopefully) second season, when the first season is
reaired, will the episodes be shown in the order intended, or will they
continue to be shown in the order they are now?

Bit of a run-on sentence, sorry - my Fourth grade teacher would scream
if she read that one...

--
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ISP Systems Administrator
Great Atlantic & Pacific Tea Co.
mars...@aptea.com

sha...@eskimo.com

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Jul 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/17/99
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The main thing I've noticed is that Galen always gets the last line.


Jeff Walther

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Jul 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/17/99
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> > >Am I the only one here who finds Woodward's Galen annoying? He just
> > >gets on my nerves. It isn't the writing. . .his lines seem ok. It is
> > >the acting. Anyone else feel this way? I can't say that he's a bad
> > >actor, perhaps he's being directed this way. I don't know. I prefer
> > >Gideon, Matheson, Eilerson, and the unseen and unheard Chambers over a
> > >screenful of Galen.
> > >
> > >Jim

This reminds me of all the people who called Sinclair "wooden" and blamed
it on the actor. In real life, many people are wooden, some are shy, some
don't ever go into hysterics or emote strongly in any visible way. I
don't even think these people are a small minority. Yet, all the
characters we see on TV are the type who wear their every reaction and
emotion on their face, and so if someone tries to portray a different type
of character, we think the acting is bad--okay sometimes it is bad
acting. But in the case of Sinclair and now Galen, I don't think so.

In the case of Galen, think of a hyper geeky person with super powers and
the worst of the Celtic wannabe complexes that so many gamers and fen
have. That's Galen.

He's a very realistically portrayed character considering his background.
The only difference between him and some of the more annoying
con/fan/role-playing/fantasy types I have met, is that the latter don't
have super powers. Don't mistake this for a blanket condemnation of
people with those interests. I'm a role player myself. What I'm saying
is that Galen isn't that different from people at the extreme end of the
annoying spectrum within that category of people.

As such, I think it is an excellently brave portrayal of the character and
there is nothing to criticise in the acting. In fact, I would expect the
portrayal of this type of unusual character to be more than usually
challenging.

A friend will help you move; a real friend will help you move a body.


Dianne Heins

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Jul 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/18/99
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In article <trag-11079...@aus-as5-100.io.com>, Jeff Walther
says...

> > > >Am I the only one here who finds Woodward's Galen annoying? He just
> > > >gets on my nerves. It isn't the writing. . .his lines seem ok. It is
> > > >the acting. Anyone else feel this way? I can't say that he's a bad
> > > >actor, perhaps he's being directed this way. I don't know. I prefer
> > > >Gideon, Matheson, Eilerson, and the unseen and unheard Chambers over a
> > > >screenful of Galen.
> > > >
> > > >Jim
>
> This reminds me of all the people who called Sinclair "wooden" and blamed
> it on the actor. In real life, many people are wooden, some are shy, some
> don't ever go into hysterics or emote strongly in any visible way. I
> don't even think these people are a small minority. Yet, all the
> characters we see on TV are the type who wear their every reaction and
> emotion on their face, and so if someone tries to portray a different type
> of character, we think the acting is bad--okay sometimes it is bad
> acting. But in the case of Sinclair and now Galen, I don't think so.

The one and only time I saw Michael O'Hare, he was anything but wooden
in person... if he's anything like that normally, then I'd say it took
a lot of work to act "woodenly;" although it never seemed wooden to
me--more... reserved, controlled--you know, things you'd want a CO of
a diplomatic post to be.

--
Dianne


Charles J. Walther

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Jul 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/18/99
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sha...@eskimo.com wrote:

> The main thing I've noticed is that Galen always gets the last line.

Of course he gets the last line, he is the wizard.........remember
Elric's warning about wizards.

Boojie


sha...@eskimo.com

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On 5 Jul 1999 22:10:24 -0600, ro...@macwhiz.com (Rob Levandowski)
wrote:

>In article <377E8C7B...@naxs.com>, James Bell <jam...@naxs.com> wrote:
>

>>Am I the only one here who finds Woodward's Galen annoying? He just
>>gets on my nerves. It isn't the writing. . .his lines seem ok. It is
>>the acting. Anyone else feel this way? I can't say that he's a bad
>>actor, perhaps he's being directed this way. I don't know. I prefer
>>Gideon, Matheson, Eilerson, and the unseen and unheard Chambers over a
>>screenful of Galen.

I found last weeks episode "The Rules of the Game" to be interesting
because it actually allowed us to see a character for once. In this
case it made Max a more interesting character and less cartooned.

>I really like Galen. My take on it is that Galen (the character)
>intentionally overacts... and that it's part of being a larger-than-life
>technomage.

He's not that large. He just has more secrets than most humans.

>Hey, if I wanted to be a technomage, would I have to shave my head?
>
>Rob

Edward Woodward isn't quite bald.


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