from jms re: Crusade
Jms at B5
The reason we've been waiting so long for news is that the SciFi Channel has
been crunching numbers for weeks, trying to make the deal work with WB, and
doing their level best. The programming folks there loved the show (and
special thanks has to go to Programming Head Tom Vitale at SFC who worked
hardest to make this work).
The problem is simply this: the money to fund a series is a BIG chunk of
change. SFC had already allocated its budget for the year as of January 1st,
and there simply wasn't enough left in this year's budget to pull it off.
Also, the emphasis now is on spending money on shows where one owns a piece of
it, and Crusade is owned entirely by WB.
At the end of they day, they just couldn't make the dollars work, though they
tried their damndest, and are only to be thanked.
I'm told that if the ratings are good on the 13 which TNT will still air, all
the eps made so far will be shown, there may be a second season, but we'll see.
Meanwhile, I'm taking the day off. There have been seven offers for overall
deals and multiple network pilot deals with both networks per se and studios on
my desk for about a year now, ever since B5 ended, which I've been putting off
to do Crusade. Now I'll pick one of those deals and make it. So the next
thing from me you see will almost certainly be on one of the major networks.
I'm going back into the deep water again....
Meanwhile, my thanks to all those who emailed and wrote and called and
supported. It's a good show, as will be seen when the shows are aired, and I'd
rather lose a show I believed in than keep one I didn't believe in.
jms
(jms...@aol.com)
B5 Official Fan Club at:
http://www.thestation.com
Brian D. Schenck
the following:
:>Meanwhile, my thanks to all those who emailed and wrote and called and
:>supported. It's a good show, as will be seen when the shows are aired, and I'd
:>rather lose a show I believed in than keep one I didn't believe in.
:>
Well, I hope that things do work out. It is a shame that there
couldn't be a deal with the Sci-Fi channel though. Good luck with your
next project.
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Needless to say, I'm more than bummed out. At least now I know I can
cancel my cable -TV (the only reason I got cable was to watch B5 on
TNT). I'd rather have Crusade and keep paying -- but ah well......
So, will the unfilmed scripts for Crusade be turned into books ? Will
we ever find out how the plague is cured ? I'll buy the books !!
JMS -- thanks for all you've done. B5 was the first TV SF show I've
liked since the original ST and the first that inspired me to actually
buy some SF merchandise. I'll be waiting to purchase B5 on DVD when
it eventually comes out. At least you'ved raised the bar for what we
expect from TV SF (though watching Earth:Final Conflict lately I'm
starting to wonder how much the suits are dictating there since the
2nd season isn't quite as good as the first so far. I'm holding out
hope yet).
Good luck in your future endeavors. I'll be looking for them.
Mike
jms...@aol.com (Jms at B5) wrote:
> Bottom line:
>
> The reason we've been waiting so long for news is that the SciFi Channel has
> been crunching numbers for weeks, trying to make the deal work with WB, and
> doing their level best. The programming folks there loved the show (and
> special thanks has to go to Programming Head Tom Vitale at SFC who worked
> hardest to make this work).
>
> The problem is simply this: the money to fund a series is a BIG chunk of
> change. SFC had already allocated its budget for the year as of January 1st,
> and there simply wasn't enough left in this year's budget to pull it off.
> Also, the emphasis now is on spending money on shows where one owns a piece of
> it, and Crusade is owned entirely by WB.
>
> At the end of they day, they just couldn't make the dollars work, though they
> tried their damndest, and are only to be thanked.
>
> I'm told that if the ratings are good on the 13 which TNT will still air, all
> the eps made so far will be shown, there may be a second season, but we'll see.
>
> Meanwhile, I'm taking the day off. There have been seven offers for overall
> deals and multiple network pilot deals with both networks per se and studios on
> my desk for about a year now, ever since B5 ended, which I've been putting off
> to do Crusade. Now I'll pick one of those deals and make it. So the next
> thing from me you see will almost certainly be on one of the major networks.
> I'm going back into the deep water again....
>
> Meanwhile, my thanks to all those who emailed and wrote and called and
> supported. It's a good show, as will be seen when the shows are aired, and I'd
> rather lose a show I believed in than keep one I didn't believe in.
>
Aubrey W. Adkins
Aubrey
Laura M. Appelbaum
>
>
> I'm told that if the ratings are good on the 13 which TNT will still air, all
> the eps made so far will be shown, there may be a second season, but we'll see.
>
But the fact is that since you are going to move on to other things, as
you of course should, it won't matter WHAT the ratings are because
you'll be too busy (hopefully) to resurrect "Crusade" anyway, right?
The project is dead. Go ahead and say it outright -- I think we
probably ALL need closure ...
For all the constructive criticism I've made about B5 over the years and
despite the misgivings I had about "Crusade" after seeing "Call to
Arms," I was really looking forward to seeing the final product. It's a
shame that the cold cash realities of television are going to prevent
that. But ...
Thank you for bringing us the Dream Made Form that was Babylon 5, Joe.
Thank you for giving us Jeffrey Sinclair and Catherine Sakai and Delenn
and Lennier, Londo and G'Kar and yes, even <G> John Sheridan. It's
pretty rare for a person to be able to say that a television series
changed their life -- for the better, and for that, you deserve nothing
but praise. Thanks too to all the actors and behind the scenes people
who helped make that possible. And finally, best of luck to you in the
coming days!
LMA
P.S. If it's true you're going to sell/auction/give away the props and
costumes, can you put me down for a Triluminary? ;D <VBG>
Andy Hock
>
> Meanwhile, I'm taking the day off. There have been seven offers for overall
> deals and multiple network pilot deals with both networks per se and studios on
> my desk for about a year now, ever since B5 ended, which I've been putting off
> to do Crusade. Now I'll pick one of those deals and make it. So the next
> thing from me you see will almost certainly be on one of the major networks.
> I'm going back into the deep water again....
Best of luck! I wish I had seven job offers on
my desk! I'd find one that pays more than I'm
making now. But you deserve the recognition.
B5 was damn good work!
> Meanwhile, my thanks to all those who emailed and wrote and called and
> supported. It's a good show, as will be seen when the shows are aired, and I'd
> rather lose a show I believed in than keep one I didn't believe in.
Very good point. Agree 100%
Andy Hock
Mark Holtz
>At the end of they day, they (Sci-Fi Channel) just couldn't make the dollars
Ahh.... the bottom line dollar. Oh well.....
How about, in addition to the people at SciFi Channel, the people at
Babylonian Productions and the people at Warner Bros. who spent the long hours
trying to pull the deal.
>I'm told that if the ratings are good on the 13 which TNT will still air, all
>the eps made so far will be shown, there may be a second season, but we'll see.
My fingers are crossed.
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>I'm told that if the ratings are good on the 13 which TNT will still air, all
>the eps made so far will be shown, there may be a second season, but we'll
>see
>I'd
>rather lose a show I believed in than keep one I didn't believe in
Finally, an answer to all the rumors. Thank you jms since your posting came
thirty minutes after the cool news rumors of total cancellation.
Nice to know no compromises on integrity are still the rules held high by you
and company.
Ironic, now history repeats itself anew. Only this time we dealing more with
Science Fiction of Crusade (though you hinted at some mythical elements) than
the Science Fantasy of Babylon 5. And the threat of yearly cancellation looms
agian.
One question is has TNT gave a number on what ratings they want to see or is it
a vague term like good? You consisitantly say B5 ratings are normally higher
than expected by TNT for the price they paid to show it.
By the by saw Gary Cole twice in one day (A simple Plan and Office Space) talk
about range considering little screen time..
____________
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to be picked up by a network? Sure, we'd all be back to watching the show
Tuesday night at 1:35am, but I don't mind. What's wrong with syndication?
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Alec Orrock
>rather lose a show I believed in than keep one I didn't believe in.
>
> jms
I'm not one to usually post responces to messages, I tend to just read
and file, that sort of thing. But here I just had to chime in.
I'm sure there are people who are more sorry then I about this news
(JMS, the cast and crew who now have to look for other work, the fans
of B5 who were looking forward to the new shows, etc.) but as I've
come to know, even if just a little bit, the people who have been
involved with B5 and then Crusade I've found myself very close (maybe
a little too close) to them and their work. Obviously, there is the
connection to these people with this little con I help run. But also
over the past couple of years I've had the chance to part a (however
small) part of B5 and then Crusade.
I can't truly express the saddness I feel upon hearing this news. I
find myself not so much concerned with the show it's self, but rather
the people who had been involved in it. I feel mostly secure that
those people on the crew and cast will be able to move on to new
positions and roles. But still the thought of that search being needed
in the first place is bad enough.
I'll end this now rather then blabbing on and on. My thanks and hopes
go out to everyone who had worked on Crusade for a better tomorrow. As
someone said in an earlier post.................The fat lady has sung.
Alec Orrock
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Lee Hutchinson
life you helped shape ("He-Man" and "Ghostbusters" were two of my
favorite shows when I was younger). Babylon 5 was indeed a dream given
form, and dammit, I don't think I'll ever be able to watch "Sleeping in
Light" without crying.
You've created something wonderful and unique, and I don't think anyone
will ever be able to equal it. While I had my misgivings about
"Crusade," I was more than willing to give it the same chance I gave
Babylon 5's first season <g>.
We love ya, Joe.
--
Lee Hutchinson
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"It's a hundred and six miles to Chicago; we got a full tank of gas,
half-a-pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it."
Tammy Smith
The only good thing about this is that jms didn't sell out to TNT's
desire to dumb-down the show. I'm angry & disappointed at television in
general at the moment, though. Why do the people who run these networks
want everyone to be so stupid & unadventurous?!!! I'm so sick of it!!!
I don't want to live in a junk-culture!!!
Tammy
son...@jaguarsystems.com
> Meanwhile, my thanks to all those who emailed and wrote and called and
> supported. It's a good show, as will be seen when the shows are aired, and
I'd
> rather lose a show I believed in than keep one I didn't believe in.
>
I am genuinely sorry that Crusades will not be finished. I loved Babylon Five
and was looking forward to Crusades.
In any case, I expect to follow you through your future shows. I wouldn't be
at all surprised if some of them involved other genres than science fiction
and fantasy.
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B5 Merlen
LMA writes:
>Jms at B5 wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'm told that if the ratings are good on the 13 which TNT will still air,
>all
>> the eps made so far will be shown, there may be a second season, but we'll
>>
>
>But the fact is that since you are going to move on to other things, as
>you of course should, it won't matter WHAT the ratings are because
>you'll be too busy (hopefully) to resurrect "Crusade" anyway, right?
>The project is dead. Go ahead and say it outright -- I think we
>probably ALL need closure ...
Well, I wouldn't go that far. When (yes, I'm an optimist. Keeps me from going
crazy.) Crusade gets picked up, that doesn't necessarily mean JMS has to write
every episode. If I remember correctly, there were reports that other writers
have contributed already to the Crusade story. Fiona Avery pops to mind, as an
example. I'm sure JMS is thinking in the back of his mind that when he receives
the call that Crusade is back, he has such and such options. By the time the
call comes, he'll already have a plan.
Me. I'll wait til the Death Certificate is issued before I'll agree that
Crusade is dead. Right now, it's on life support. Might need a pint or two of
blood from the fans to keep it alive. B5 positive.
B5Merlen
Tony Bruno
Thank you for the persistence in trying to get the deal done with the Sci-Fi
Channel, as well as keeping us posted (regarding Crusade) on the newsgroup..
I know all your fans are saddened by the news, but I for one am looking
forward to your new projects. Good luck!
And I will be keeping an eye out for the 13 episodes from TNT. Which brings
up another point. Will you stuill use the newsgroups as a forum/news update
for you rprojects? Aside from the occassional "bozo", I think your
utilization of this medium was met with respect of your fans and the public
in general. It would be ashame to lose this connection with you.
You have played a part in our lives that we never had: the creative mind
behind the work we follow, who allowed us insight into the making of a TV
series from all aspects. I was able to sit down with my kids, now ages 9
and 5, and explain to them various aspects of the show that helped them (and
me) understand a little bit better.
Thanks again.
Tony
Sebastian Bergmann
> At the end of they day, they just couldn't make the dollars work, though they
> tried their damndest, and are only to be thanked.
So, there is no other channel / network / whatever that has the money and
wants to pay for the spin-off of the best Science Fiction TV series of the
90's? Unbelieveable... for a fan.
"When others do a foolish thing, you should tell them it is a
foolish thing. They can still continue to do it, but at least
the truth is where it needs to be."
- Dukhat, "Babylon 5"
We should send (snail) mail to all channels / networks / etc. and tell
them, how stupid they are not buying "Crusade".
> I'm told that if the ratings are good on the 13 which TNT will still air, all
> the eps made so far will be shown, there may be a second season, but we'll see.
"Savor the moments, for they will never come again."
- Delenn, "Babylon 5"
Hope is all we have now. But if it fails, we still have the memories of
"Babylon 5", a really great show, and there is a lot to remember about it.
I know, that JMS doesn't like "Babylon 5" beeing compared to Tolkien's
"Lor of the Rings", but there is one thing both work have in common, that
he can deny. I have read LotR now for three or four times, but always some
new elements of the arc, or sub-arc threads, are beeing revealed to the
reader. The same goes for "Babylon 5". I have now watched the show for
three times (except for the "final five" of season five, which have not
yet been shown in germany and which I still have to get from USA on tape,
but soon will), and always I found some little aspects in episodes, that,
when first viewed, seemed meaningless for the arc, etc, but once you know
what happens later on, you see how great JMS's abilities as a writer
are...
> Meanwhile, I'm taking the day off. There have been seven offers for overall
> deals and multiple network pilot deals with both networks per se and studios on
> my desk for about a year now, ever since B5 ended, which I've been putting off
> to do Crusade. Now I'll pick one of those deals and make it. So the next
> thing from me you see will almost certainly be on one of the major networks.
> I'm going back into the deep water again....
"Good luck to you in your holy cause, Captain Sheridan. May your
choices have better results than mine. Remembered not as a
messenger, remembered not as a reformer, not as a prophet, not as
a hero, not even as Sebastion. Remembered only as Jack."
- Sebastion (to Sheridan), "Babylon 5: Comes the Inquisitor"
> Meanwhile, my thanks to all those who emailed and wrote and called and
> supported. It's a good show, as will be seen when the shows are aired, and I'd
> rather lose a show I believed in than keep one I didn't believe in.
I love your work,
Sebastian
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shown?
Thirteen episodes is a decent number these days? Did "Cupid" get 13? Did
"Fantasy Island"?
I'm glad those awful rumors about TNT never showing it aren't true (assuming
JMS's message is accurate).
DD
Steve Rice
JMS,
Bottom line: you're the best. Thanks for everything.
Steve
Miche and Dave
> At the end of they day, they just couldn't make the dollars work, though they
> tried their damndest, and are only to be thanked.
>
> I'm told that if the ratings are good on the 13 which TNT will still air, all
> the eps made so far will be shown, there may be a second season, but
we'll see.
Here's hoping.
Thanks for putting in all the time and effort that you have into trying to
make Crusade fly. Hopefully, here in the South Pacific, I may hopefully
see it flap its wings a little someday, even if it never takes off.
In the meantime, I know you'll be feeling magnitudes more bummed-out than
I am, so here's a hug for you. <hug>
See you at Worldcon.
Miche (Ranger at the Rim of the Galaxy)
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Miche and Dave
<xazq...@norfolk.infi.net> wrote:
> The fat lady has sung.
'Scuse me! I have barely begun to warm up. :)
Miche
Miche and Dave
nukem...@aol.com (NukeMarine) wrote:
> By the by saw Gary Cole twice in one day (A simple Plan and Office
Space) talk
> about range considering little screen time..
Gary Cole is a damn fine actor and I've been a fan of his for years. If
you can, try to get hold of some tapes of a show he did 6 or 7 years ago
called "Midnight Caller." It's not very well-known but is very good. It
was the first thing I saw him in and I was very impressed.
I'm sorry he won't be getting more airtime now that Crusade is gone. :(
Gary Farber
Jms at B5 <jms...@aol.com> wrote:
[. . .]
: Meanwhile, my thanks to all those who emailed and wrote and called and
: supported. It's a good show, as will be seen when the shows are aired, and I'd
: rather lose a show I believed in than keep one I didn't believe in.
That's a decision I should think everyone should be able to respect.
I'm sorry it didn't work out. Best of luck on your future projects, which
I'll be interested in seeing.
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Mac Breck
Jms at B5 wrote in message <19990226160301...@ng-cc1.aol.com>...
>Bottom line:
>
>At the end of they day, they just couldn't make the dollars work, though
they
>tried their damndest, and are only to be thanked.
Please don't give up yet. Have the other avenues been explored, like WB
putting it on WB? ...or maybe going the HBO/Showtime route (like Stargate
SG1) ?
>I'm told that if the ratings are good on the 13 which TNT will still air,
all
>the eps made so far will be shown, there may be a second season, but we'll
see.
Then, you probably won't be able to get the actors back. Damn!!!
Just once I'd like to see the good guy win without having to fight tooth and
nail with whole armies of backstabbing idiots for every inch of ground
gained. Been there, done that. Hell, I still do that every day.
Mac
Britwombat
>we ever find out how the plague is cured ?
Since in "Sleeping in Light" both Susan Ivanova and Stephen Franklin came to
Minbar from Earth with no quarantine, side effects etc, I think we can safely
assume that in the 20 year period, a cure was found.
Cari
Philip R. Columbus
Please allow me to add my $.02 and say how sorry I am to hear of the
demise of "Crusade." While I may have been a pain in the 'you know what'
with the "ramming speed" stuff, I never thought the show or its writing
was anything but first rate. I was looking forward to "Crusade" and will
watch the 13 produced episodes. Who knows, stranger things have happened
but, in the event they don't, thanks for a great run!
Philip R. Columbus
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Alec Orrock wrote in message <36d73981...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>...
....and somebody should tell her to put a cork in it.
Mac
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>costumes, can you put me down for a Triluminary? ;D <VBG>
I want a PPG or an AOL uniform myself...
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right about when it starts to get good - imagine if B5 was cancelled
after Signs and Portents? Aarrgh!!!
I undoubtedly will watch and tape every one if they are shown, but I
just know that I'm going to regret getting caught up in what would
surely have been a great story, cut off at the knees.
dian...@aol.com (Diane K De) spewed:
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dian...@aol.com (Diane K De) wrote:
> Is anyone besides me at least happy that the 13 episodes produced will be
> shown?
>
> Thirteen episodes is a decent number these days? Did "Cupid" get 13? Did
> "Fantasy Island"?
>
> I'm glad those awful rumors about TNT never showing it aren't true (assuming
> JMS's message is accurate).
>
Spooky
here", and various coffee stains, orr...@ix.netcom.com (Alec Orrock)
scribbled:
>On 26 Feb 1999 14:07:43 -0700, jms...@aol.com (Jms at B5) wrote:
<snip>
>>
>I'll end this now rather then blabbing on and on. My thanks and hopes
>go out to everyone who had worked on Crusade for a better tomorrow. As
>someone said in an earlier post.................The fat lady has sung.
And I (even being a pessemist) say that she's just warming up, and
might possibly get some vicious throat infection and will not be able
to sing for another 5 years or so <G>
Just thought this group needed a little (if dry) humor...
>
>Alec Orrock
>
>
>
>Alec Orrock
>AgamemCon III
>www.agamemcon.org
>
>
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Spooky
here", and various coffee stains, "Aubrey W. Adkins"
<xazq...@norfolk.infi.net> scribbled:
>The fat lady has sung.
>Aubrey
>
Nah, I hope she's just warming up, because it sounds horrible!
Spooky
here", and various coffee stains, britw...@aol.com (Britwombat)
scribbled:
Or the disease just died off...
>
>Cari
Spooky
here", and various coffee stains, "Mac Breck" <macb...@timesnet.net>
scribbled:
>
>Alec Orrock wrote in message <36d73981...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>...
>>On 26 Feb 1999 14:07:43 -0700, jms...@aol.com (Jms at B5) wrote:
>The fat lady has sung.
>
>....and somebody should tell her to put a cork in it.
<Jerrylouisvoice> OH FAT LADY!!! PLEASE BE QUIET SO WE CAN WATCH THE
SHOW?! THANK YOU!!!! </Jerrylouisvoice>
>
>Mac
>
>
>
--Brigand Spooky... Hoping that JMS can get Crusade going, in TV, Book, Comic, or whatever form he chooses...
"To all those convinced that the Babylon
project would fail in it's mission:
FAITH MANAGES."
--Joe Micheal Stratazinsky
Andy Molnar
Diane K De wrote:
> Is anyone besides me at least happy that the 13 episodes produced will be
> shown?
>
> Thirteen episodes is a decent number these days? Did "Cupid" get 13? Did
> "Fantasy Island"?
>
> I'm glad those awful rumors about TNT never showing it aren't true (assuming
> JMS's message is accurate).
>
> DD
It's great that the thirteen episodes will be shown, and I'm sure "Space: The
Imagination Station" will be showing them here in Canada as well. The thing I'm
worried about is the future beyond those episodes. Sure we'll get a taste of
Crusade, but will we ever see the outcome of the plot five years down the road?
I just hope those ratings get up there.
Mac Breck
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>I'm not sure if I'm happy about the 13eps... the story will be cut off
>right about when it starts to get good - imagine if B5 was cancelled
>after Signs and Portents? Aarrgh!!!
>
>I undoubtedly will watch and tape every one if they are shown, but I
>just know that I'm going to regret getting caught up in what would
>surely have been a great story, cut off at the knees.
Maybe it'll be continued in book form.
Mac
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britw...@aol.com (Britwombat) wrote:
> >Will
> >we ever find out how the plague is cured ?
>
>
> Since in "Sleeping in Light" both Susan Ivanova and Stephen Franklin came to
> Minbar from Earth with no quarantine, side effects etc, I think we can safely
> assume that in the 20 year period, a cure was found.
Yes, I know a cure was found -- that's easy to figure out -- the question
is still "what's the cure and how was it found ?"
Mike
Shane D. Killian
>
> I'm not sure if I'm happy about the 13eps... the story will be cut off
> right about when it starts to get good - imagine if B5 was cancelled
> after Signs and Portents? Aarrgh!!!
>
call or write TNT and the outcry could result in them resuming Crusade.
--
Shane D. Killian -- sha...@vnet.net -- http://users.vnet.net/shanek
"uuunnn k mmmmmmk hhhhhhhh khbbbbbbbbbbbh
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--Sinclair Mitchell Killian, born 1/29/98
Shane D. Killian
>
> Jms at B5 wrote:
> > At the end of they day, they just couldn't make the dollars work,
> > though they tried their damndest, and are only to be thanked.
>
> and wants to pay for the spin-off of the best Science Fiction TV series
> of the 90's? Unbelieveable... for a fan.
>
have already budgeted their money for this year. They wouldn't be able
to do anything until next year, long after everyone's contracts have
expired and they've gone on to do other things.
Of course, if the *ratings* are good, those same cable stations may be
clamoring for it once their new fiscal period starts.
> We should send (snail) mail to all channels / networks / etc. and tell
> them, how stupid they are not buying "Crusade".
>
I think the key ehre is to ne *nice*...Don't tell them that they're
stupid for not picking it up, but request that they pick up a second
season.
Bob Joesting
>We should send (snail) mail to all channels / networks / etc. and tell
>them, how stupid they are not buying "Crusade".
No! Never tell network execs they are stupid. If
you want to get them to do something, tell them how
smart they would be if they scheduled a good show
like Crusade. If you tell them they are stupid for
not buying Crusade, they will see that as proof that
you are one of those stupid fans of a failed show
that has almost no following. Convince network execs
that buying Crusade would be a smart move and you will
be seen as a smart person that helped them show they
are ahead of the other execs in scheduling a good show.
Bob Joesting <valen (at) psicorps (dot) com>
Dirk A. Loedding
dian...@aol.com (Diane K De) wrote:
>Is anyone besides me at least happy that the 13 episodes produced will be
>shown?
Though I'd like to see 110, or more...I'll settle for 13. I hope
they're good...I hope they draw ratings so good that some TNT suits lose
their jobs for letting it get away from them. But, given that TNT will
not promote them, and they'll probably air them at 3 AM or some such
time, I'm not holding my breath.
>Thirteen episodes is a decent number these days? Did "Cupid" get 13? Did
>"Fantasy Island"?
Cupid got 14. FI got 13.
>I'm glad those awful rumors about TNT never showing it aren't
>true (assuming JMS's message is accurate).
Agreed.
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Dirk A. Loedding
jms...@aol.com (Jms at B5) wrote:
[snip]
Ah, hell. It's been a good five years or so, though. I don't regret
any of the time I've spent watching the show or interacting with the
folks I've met because of this show. Thanks, Joe. See you at MegaCon.
Aubrey W. Adkins
anything else on TNT's schedule that the average B5 audience will watch.
What do they have for B5 or Crusade to lead into???
Aubrey
Diane K De
>not promote them, and they'll probably air them at 3 AM or some such
>time, I'm not holding my breath.
I have a strong feeling, actually a premonition, that TNT will be showing
Crusade in primetime and there will be more promotion than you expect.
>>Thirteen episodes is a decent number these days? Did "Cupid" get 13? Did
>>"Fantasy Island"?
>
>Cupid got 14. FI got 13.
Thanks for answering the question. I guess Trinity, Wind on Water, and Mercy
Point would have been better examples.
DD
Michael J. Hennebry
Not to mention "Wizards and Warriors" and "Covington Cross".
--
Mike henn...@plains.NoDak.edu
"There won't be a full moon for months." -- Randi Wallace
Dirk A. Loedding
dian...@aol.com (Diane K De) wrote:
>> But, given that TNT will
>>not promote them, and they'll probably air them at 3 AM or some such
>>time, I'm not holding my breath.
>I have a strong feeling, actually a premonition, that TNT will be showing
>Crusade in primetime and there will be more promotion than you expect.
I sincerely hope you're right, and that I'll be pleasantly surprised.
>>Cupid got 14. FI got 13.
>Thanks for answering the question.
You're quite welcome.
>I guess Trinity, Wind on Water, and Mercy Point would have been
>better examples.
Hehe. Probably so. I don't have numbers for the first two...though I
suspect low single digits, and I'm rather certain MP only had three.