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UnltdLife

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Jan 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/10/99
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Just curious why the make-up department aged Sheridan so much in five years.
He didn't seem very much younger than he appeared in SiL fifteen years later.
Did the "Telepath Crisis" take a particularly horrendous (sp.?) toll on him?

You mentioned a few times how much your hair "greyed" the past six (or so)
years doing B5. I suppose an all out war with Telepaths on a planetary scale
could be as much of a stress inducer in an Alliance President as producing B5
over five years. (Maybe even more so...)

Jason


croo...@hotmail.com

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In article <19990105225621...@ng-ch1.aol.com>,

That makes sence. I rember looking at my cousin, when watching it, and
saying "well, SHERIDAN dind't age well, did he?". But with everything going
on, I'm suprised he didnt' ahve to go in for heart surgey and see a
psycologist and the rest :) Or, maybe, it was in his genes, soem people
defianty go grey much youngre than others do.


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ImRastro

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Jan 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/11/99
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WARNING: This post will be notably shallow .........just letting you know
before hand,

Crooooow and Unltd Life ( and I would really like to know what that stands
for), Before him write:

>> Just curious why the make-up department aged Sheridan so much in five
>years.
>> He didn't seem very much younger than he appeared in SiL fifteen years
>later.
>> Did the "Telepath Crisis" take a particularly horrendous (sp.?) toll on
>him?
>>
>> You mentioned a few times how much your hair "greyed" the past six (or so)
>> years doing B5. I suppose an all out war with Telepaths on a planetary
>scale
>> could be as much of a stress inducer in an Alliance President as producing
>B5
>> over five years. (Maybe even more so...)
>>
>> Jason
>>
>
> That makes sence. I rember looking at my cousin, when watching it, and
>saying "well, SHERIDAN dind't age well, did he?". But with everything going
>on, I'm suprised he didnt' ahve to go in for heart surgey and see a
>psycologist and the rest :) Or, maybe, it was in his genes, soem people
>defianty go grey much youngre than others do.

Given how badly Sheridan was mismanaging the aliance in S5 with no indication
he was getting any better, I chaulked up the grey hair to that. But, I gotta
say, I thought it looked really attractive....and I don't like BB or Sheridan.
I'm a Londo gal.

Hey, I said this was shallow....


Laura M. Appelbaum

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Jan 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/11/99
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UnltdLife wrote:
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> Just curious why the make-up department aged Sheridan so much in five years.
> He didn't seem very much younger than he appeared in SiL fifteen years later.

Actually, he seemed almost YOUNGER in SIL because I would swear in ACTA
he demonstrated a LIMP from time to time. He also seemed to be
emotionally "beaten down" which is why I think he REALLY seemed so old.


>
> You mentioned a few times how much your hair "greyed" the past six (or so)
> years doing B5. I suppose an all out war with Telepaths on a planetary scale
> could be as much of a stress inducer in an Alliance President as producing B5
> over five years. (Maybe even more so...)
>

Have you ever seen a picture of exactly HOW GREY Bruce Boxleitner is in
real life? There was a shot of him on the cover of one of the Brit SF
mags last year that was a real eye-opener ...

LMA


Spooky

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Jan 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/18/99
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On 11 Jan 1999 22:28:53 -0700, in the Book of G'Kar, under "Londa waz
here", and various coffee stains, "Laura M. Appelbaum"
<l-app...@mindspring.com> scribbled:

>UnltdLife wrote:
>>
>> Just curious why the make-up department aged Sheridan so much in five years.
>> He didn't seem very much younger than he appeared in SiL fifteen years later.
>
>Actually, he seemed almost YOUNGER in SIL because I would swear in ACTA
>he demonstrated a LIMP from time to time. He also seemed to be
>emotionally "beaten down" which is why I think he REALLY seemed so old.

I guess being president of the IA could be stressful, especially
having to sit through all those meals with Delenn when he knew he had
work to do...


>
>LMA
>

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Laura M. Appelbaum

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Jan 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/19/99
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> >UnltdLife wrote:
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> >> Just curious why the make-up department aged Sheridan so much in five years.
> >> He didn't seem very much younger than he appeared in SiL fifteen years later.
> >
> >Actually, he seemed almost YOUNGER in SIL because I would swear in ACTA
> >he demonstrated a LIMP from time to time. He also seemed to be
> >emotionally "beaten down" which is why I think he REALLY seemed so old.
>
> I guess being president of the IA could be stressful, especially
> having to sit through all those meals with Delenn when he knew he had
> work to do...
>

So you're saying he appeared to be in better shape fifteen years later
in "Sleeping in Light" because he knew when he got up again on that
final morning, he'd never be eating flarn again? ;D

LMA


BARAKATULLAH

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Jan 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/26/99
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>Just curious why the make-up department aged Sheridan so much in five
years.
>He didn't seem very much younger than he appeared in SiL fifteen years
later.
>Did the "Telepath Crisis" take a particularly horrendous (sp.?) toll on
him?
>


I'm assuming this refers to "A Call To Arms" (Which will appear DECADES
later here in the UK, as usual). Well, assuming that Sheridan is roughly the
same age as Mr. Boxleitner (who BTW has been dying his hair since at least
series 3), by this time period he should be in his fifties. I think you'll
find a lot of people have grey hair at this age...

Yusuf

PS This also raises the point that the B5 movie should be done before the
actors are too old to play their roles, I think


Kal-El

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Jan 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/26/99
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On 26 Jan 1999 02:15:21 -0700, BARAKATULLAH
<Yusuf.Bar...@ncl.ac.uk> wrote:

>>Just curious why the make-up department aged Sheridan so much in five
>years.
>>He didn't seem very much younger than he appeared in SiL fifteen years
>later.
>>Did the "Telepath Crisis" take a particularly horrendous (sp.?) toll on
>him?

Don't forget, stress can do things to you physically. My impression
was that running B5 made him prematurely grey (he gets that one shock
on his forhead after season 2). Also, he did DIE at least once. That's
GOT to have an effect on a guy.


Shane D. Killian

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Jan 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/27/99
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BARAKATULLAH wrote:
>
> >Just curious why the make-up department aged Sheridan so much in five
> >years. He didn't seem very much younger than he appeared in SiL fifteen
> >years later. Did the "Telepath Crisis" take a particularly horrendous
> >(sp.?) toll on him?
> >
> I'm assuming this refers to "A Call To Arms" (Which will appear DECADES
> later here in the UK, as usual). Well, assuming that Sheridan is roughly
> the same age as Mr. Boxleitner (who BTW has been dying his hair since at
> least series 3), by this time period he should be in his fifties. I
> think you'll find a lot of people have grey hair at this age...
>
I've seen friends--as early as 30--go from dark hair to all grey hair in
the span of about 3 years. It happens.

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Shane D. Killian

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Jan 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/27/99
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Kal-El wrote:
>
> Don't forget, stress can do things to you physically. My impression
> was that running B5 made him prematurely grey (he gets that one shock
> on his forhead after season 2).
>
I think that was the direct result of being exposed to the alien healing
device, which he used with Franklin to bring Garibaldi out of the coma.
Notice that Franklin started to go a bit grey then as well.

> Also, he did DIE at least once. That's GOT to have an effect on a guy.
>

Yeah, a thing like that can really put a crimp on your day.

Jms at B5

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Jan 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/27/99
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Actually, I believe that's Bruce's natural color.

jms

(jms...@aol.com)
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LessXTreme

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Jan 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/27/99
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>I'm assuming this refers to "A Call To Arms" (Which will appear DECADES
>later here in the UK, as usual). Well, assuming that Sheridan is roughly the
>same age as Mr. Boxleitner (who BTW has been dying his hair since at least
>series 3), by this time period he should be in his fifties. I think you'll
>find a lot of people have grey hair at this age...

The point wasn't that he simply had grey hair..he went from lots of gray in
season four to dyed red in S5, and then in ACTA he appears with almost TOTALLY
WHITE hair. That's a lotta stress...


isi...@geocities.com

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Jan 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/28/99
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In article <78k12d$f$1...@ucsnew1.ncl.ac.uk>,

BARAKATULLAH <Yusuf.Bar...@ncl.ac.uk> wrote:
> >Just curious why the make-up department aged Sheridan so much in five
> years.
> >He didn't seem very much younger than he appeared in SiL fifteen years
> later.
> >Did the "Telepath Crisis" take a particularly horrendous (sp.?) toll on
> him?
> >
>
> I'm assuming this refers to "A Call To Arms" (Which will appear DECADES
> later here in the UK, as usual). Well, assuming that Sheridan is roughly the
> same age as Mr. Boxleitner (who BTW has been dying his hair since at least
> series 3), by this time period he should be in his fifties. I think you'll
> find a lot of people have grey hair at this age...

My dad, for one (who had totally black hair less than five years ago - now
it's almost white). OTOH, Sheridan didn't look too grey in 2278 (WWE2) -
maybe he looked in the mirror post-Call to Arms and decided that he'd rather
dye than look *that* old ;-)

On a related note, does anyone else think that everyone bar Sheridan seemed
to have weathered very well in SiL. Ivanova's ageing seemed to be confined
to one strand of grey.

Matt

Laura M. Appelbaum

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Jan 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/28/99
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LessXTreme wrote:
>
> >I'm assuming this refers to "A Call To Arms" (Which will appear DECADES
> >later here in the UK, as usual). Well, assuming that Sheridan is roughly the
> >same age as Mr. Boxleitner (who BTW has been dying his hair since at least
> >series 3), by this time period he should be in his fifties. I think you'll
> >find a lot of people have grey hair at this age...
>
> The point wasn't that he simply had grey hair..he went from lots of gray in
> season four to dyed red in S5, and then in ACTA he appears with almost TOTALLY
> WHITE hair. That's a lotta stress...

Actually, after he killed Anna on Z'ha'dum in an act of justifiable
homicide, Sheridan inherited her estate.

Unfortunately, this was revealed to consist of a lifetime supply of
Clairol Loving Care hair coloring in "reddish brown #2." After five
years of marriage, Delenn finally decided to tell him he looked
ridiculous, so he had the color stripped from his hair, at which point
he discovered he'd gone entirely grey.

LMA


Yusuf Barakatullah

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Jan 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/29/99
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If you want a real life example of what 5 years of stress can do to a man,
just look at JMS!

Yusuf


Barakatullah

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isi...@geocities.com wrote in message

>On a related note, does anyone else think that everyone bar Sheridan seemed
>to have weathered very well in SiL. Ivanova's ageing seemed to be confined
>to one strand of grey.
>
>Matt


Well, Franklin was basically the same as the 2262 model, just with white
hair and glasses( the white hair started to appear in S4, only to disappear
by the start of S5,strangely). Zack took the heaviest toll IMO, with that
limp and all.

However, the award for best weathering must go to Lorien. :-)

Yusuf


Kal-El

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Jan 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/30/99
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On 27 Jan 1999 17:44:24 -0700, jms...@aol.com (Jms at B5) wrote:

>Actually, I believe that's Bruce's natural color.
>
> jms

I'm sorry.... I'm new... Does JMS actually post messages here, or
is this a sick joke to play on a drooling fan-boy like me.
(and Joe, if this is true, did Bruce go grey from doing a show like
Babylon 5? And if -that's- true, how's -your- hair?


Kal-El

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Jan 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/30/99
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On 28 Jan 1999 11:55:41 -0700, isi...@geocities.com wrote:

>My dad, for one (who had totally black hair less than five years ago - now
>it's almost white). OTOH, Sheridan didn't look too grey in 2278 (WWE2) -
>maybe he looked in the mirror post-Call to Arms and decided that he'd rather
>dye than look *that* old ;-)

When he appeared in the Future WWE2, he was exactly his own age. He
didn't 'leap' into himself at a later age.

>On a related note, does anyone else think that everyone bar Sheridan seemed
>to have weathered very well in SiL. Ivanova's ageing seemed to be confined
>to one strand of grey.

Well, considering that the actors are all five years older as well,
I think that the manner in which they aged is pretty believable...


Kal-El

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On 27 Jan 1999 16:34:39 -0700, "Shane D. Killian" <sha...@vnet.net>
wrote:

>Kal-El wrote:
>>
>> Don't forget, stress can do things to you physically. My impression
>> was that running B5 made him prematurely grey (he gets that one shock
>> on his forhead after season 2).
>>
>I think that was the direct result of being exposed to the alien healing
>device, which he used with Franklin to bring Garibaldi out of the coma.
>Notice that Franklin started to go a bit grey then as well.

I -like- this theory. If it's true (that the production team did
this on purpose) then i have even MORE respect for them all.


sgwm

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On 28 Jan 1999 11:56:33 -0700, in
rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated "Laura M. Appelbaum"
<l-app...@mindspring.com>wrote:

>LessXTreme wrote:
>>
>> >I'm assuming this refers to "A Call To Arms" (Which will appear DECADES
>> >later here in the UK, as usual). Well, assuming that Sheridan is roughly the
>> >same age as Mr. Boxleitner (who BTW has been dying his hair since at least
>> >series 3), by this time period he should be in his fifties. I think you'll
>> >find a lot of people have grey hair at this age...
>>
>> The point wasn't that he simply had grey hair..he went from lots of gray in
>> season four to dyed red in S5, and then in ACTA he appears with almost TOTALLY
>> WHITE hair. That's a lotta stress...

Maybe Just For Men (tm) decided that the leader of the
Alliance was a perfect candidate for their latest marketing
campaign.

"Why be gray? Why stand between the candle and the star?
With Just For Men you can rid yourself of grayness in just 5
minutes...."

--
"The day a studio begins messing around with a
show is when it pretty much becomes doomed."

J.M.Straczynski
on Genie


Laura M. Appelbaum

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Jan 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/30/99
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Not a joke at all. Bruce is totally grey.

LMA


Shaz

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Jan 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/31/99
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>Not a joke at all. Bruce is totally grey.


Not totally, but he's definitely getting there.

And he HATES it!

<g>

Shaz <who actually LIKES grey hair on a man>

isi...@geocities.com

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In article <36b2c8bd.17565114@news>,
oki...@sfu.ca (Kal-El) wrote:

> >On a related note, does anyone else think that everyone bar Sheridan seemed
> >to have weathered very well in SiL. Ivanova's ageing seemed to be confined
> >to one strand of grey.

> Well, considering that the actors are all five years older as well,
> I think that the manner in which they aged is pretty believable...

I mean in Sleeping in Light when everyone is twenty years older than in Season
4.

Michael J. Hennebry

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In article <36aeaf23.12946031@news>, Kal-El <oki...@sfu.ca> wrote:
>On 26 Jan 1999 02:15:21 -0700, BARAKATULLAH
>on his forhead after season 2). Also, he did DIE at least once. That's

>GOT to have an effect on a guy.

One for my .sig files. How do you want the attribution to read?

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Lars Haugseth

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> In article <36aeaf23.12946031@news>, Kal-El <oki...@sfu.ca> wrote:
>
> Don't forget, stress can do things to you physically. My impression
> was that running B5 made him prematurely grey (he gets that one shock
> on his forhead after season 2). Also, he did DIE at least once. That's
> GOT to have an effect on a guy.

3) Also, he did DYE at least once. That's GOT to have an effect on a guy.

--
Lars Haugseth


Kal-El

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>>on his forhead after season 2). Also, he did DIE at least once. That's
>>GOT to have an effect on a guy.
>
>One for my .sig files. How do you want the attribution to read?

Uh, that was me. You can go with 'Kal-El' or 'Orion Ussner Kidder',
whichever you prefer.


The -second- one is my real name.


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