from jms II: more crusade
Jms at B5
My newsreader was down for a couple days, and I've been hunkered down writing,
so I'm just now getting a chance to get out and address some of the stories
going around. Best way to do that is with a quick overview....
We're still set to go back into filming on October 19th. As I mentioned in a
prior post, TNT felt the need for an actual introductory episode, one that sets
the story by bringing together our characters together for the first time, more
of a conventional pilot in that respect. "Racing the Night" was written to
take place about 5 months after the Drakh attack, so that we got right into
things. The "bringing people into the story" story will, therefore, take place
shortly after the Drakh attack, two-three days later, to be precise.
Since we're doing a first introductory episode, TNT kinda wanted to have the
new sets in place for the first few eps (though they can't appear in the first
one for story reasons), and since we're making some wardrobe adjustments, they
figured they may as well have those in place as well.
Nothing in the story has been changed. The five episodes already made will be
aired, and you will see that the characters, the story, the feel of the show is
*exactly* the same between those first 5 filmed, and those that follow. What
it comes down to are some cosmetic changes, some new sets, and an episode that
sets things in place.
As we come back, the first two episodes up to be shot will be scripts we
already had in hand, then the new introductory episode, "War Zone," another one
we already have, one new one, then another one from on-hand, which will take us
through into the Christmas break.
No scripts are being thrown out, no episodes are being scrapped...none of that
has taken place, or is taking place. The show is the show is the show.
(And on the costumes themselves...no, they're not going to be "skin tight"
things; we're actually kinda going in the opposite direction. They're more
typically military jumpsuits, black, neatly tailored, similar to some Air Force
or Marine uniforms. And the only people who will be wearing these are the
basic technical crew, Captain Gideon (Gary Cole) and Lieutenant John Matheson
(Daniel Dae Kim); the others are civilians, and thus are not affected.
Regarding air dates...we have thus far not been told if they want to push for a
January airdate or not. Part of the complication to all this is that if we
make #8 in shooting order the first aired, we have to do a hideous amount of
post-production on CGI to get it ready in time. Rather than make us rush it,
they have said they might consider waiting until the February sweeps. Another
option is to go in March, if they don't want to go up against the Network
sweeps period (which is traditionally death for basic cable)...but the problem
*there* is that you can only air 4 episodes and then TNT would go into the NBA
playoffs, which means it would be another 6 weeks or so until any new eps could
be shown.
So on that score, nobody's decided anything yet, we don't know and haven't been
told because they haven't decided where will best serve us, so we hit the
ground with the least network opposition.
Anyway, that's where things are. Hope this puts to rest some of the rumors out
there.
jms
(jms...@aol.com)
B5 Official Fan Club at:
http://www.thestation.com
Corscuant
All together now... THANK YOU!!!!
Trek Barnes- Rabid fan of Star Trek, Star Trek:The Next Generation, Babylon 5,
ST:Deep Space Nine, ST:Voyager, Stargate(The Movie and the series), Earth:Final
Conflict, and all the Star Trek movies.
Frantic In Fresno
overtime!!! The B5 fans await.
Frantic In Fresno
mostw...@hotmail.com
(Men are from earth, women are from earth, deal with it)
Jms at B5 wrote in message <19981010221239...@ng132.aol.com>...
Sham Gardner
: Regarding air dates...we have thus far not been told if they want to push for a
: January airdate or not. Part of the complication to all this is that if we
: make #8 in shooting order the first aired, we have to do a hideous amount of
: post-production on CGI to get it ready in time. Rather than make us rush it,
: they have said they might consider waiting until the February sweeps. Another
: option is to go in March, if they don't want to go up against the Network
: sweeps period (which is traditionally death for basic cable)...but the problem
: *there* is that you can only air 4 episodes and then TNT would go into the NBA
: playoffs, which means it would be another 6 weeks or so until any new eps could
: be shown.
: So on that score, nobody's decided anything yet, we don't know and haven't been
: told because they haven't decided where will best serve us, so we hit the
: ground with the least network opposition.
Have they said anything about holding back the last few episodes again?
Nitflegal
>Another
>: option is to go in March, if they don't want to go up against the Network
>: sweeps period (which is traditionally death for basic cable)...but the
>problem
>: *there* is that you can only air 4 episodes and then TNT would go into the
>NBA
>: playoffs, which means it would be another 6 weeks or so until any new eps
>could
>: be shown.
This will be one of the minor problems with TNT, they seem to have major sports
playoffs every couple of months. Looks like we traded the "it's on every Sunday
morning at 2:00 AM, except for every other week when it moves somewhere else,
without telling you" for "It's on every Wed. at 8:00, but it will be pre-empted
for 4-6 weeks every3-4 months."
Sigh.
Nicholas C. Weaver
Jms at B5 <jms...@aol.com> wrote:
>January airdate or not. Part of the complication to all this is that if we
>make #8 in shooting order the first aired, we have to do a hideous amount of
>post-production on CGI to get it ready in time. Rather than make us rush it,
....
How much of the CGI could be done "speculatively", concurrent
or even before the filming of the episode?
--
Nicholas C. Weaver Ash C++ durbatuluk, ash C++ gimbatul,
nwe...@cs.berkeley.edu ash C++ thrakatuluk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul!
http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~nweaver/ -Tolkien on C++
It is a tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, .signifying nothing.
Alfredo Narvaez
> IMHO, the new eps can't come soon enough..... get that CGI crew working
> overtime!!! The B5 fans await.
Only 3 weeks!!! Then the fireworks start!
Hobbes
Aubrey W. Adkins
They don't just shift it on a whim without telling anyone. I may not
like it, but thanks to vidoe tape, I can handle it. Keep in mind that
TNT's primary purpose is to generate maximum profits.
Aubrey
Tammy Smith
tammy
Jms at B5
>How much of the CGI could be done "speculatively", concurrent
>or even before the filming of the episode?
Zip. Because until it's edited, you don't know how long to make the shots, or
how they'll intercut with the live action...and there's all the stuff from
other eps to deal with as well.
Michael J. Hennebry
Corscuant <cors...@aol.com> wrote:
>Trek Barnes- Rabid fan of Star Trek, Star Trek:The Next Generation, Babylon 5,
>ST:Deep Space Nine, ST:Voyager, Stargate(The Movie and the series), Earth:Final
>Conflict, and all the Star Trek movies.
Aaaarrgh.
We have a gourmand in out midst. It likes *all* the Star Trek movies.
--
Mike henn...@plains.NoDak.edu
"Pax Romana was a Visogoth." -- Theo Vavrina
Aris Katsaris
Michael J. Hennebry wrote in message <6vt454$i...@plains.NoDak.edu>...
>In article <19981011000521...@ng61.aol.com>,
>Corscuant <cors...@aol.com> wrote:
>>Trek Barnes- Rabid fan of Star Trek, Star Trek:The Next Generation,
Babylon 5,
>>ST:Deep Space Nine, ST:Voyager, Stargate(The Movie and the series),
Earth:Final
>>Conflict, and all the Star Trek movies.
>
>Aaaarrgh.
>We have a gourmand in out midst. It likes *all* the Star Trek movies.
>
Calm down. I'm sure (I hope) he doesn't mean the fifth...
Aris Katsaris
AlEcyler, The Atomic Ninja
Babylon 5,
>>ST:Deep Space Nine, ST:Voyager, Stargate(The Movie and the series),
Earth:Final
>>Conflict, and all the Star Trek movies.
>
>Aaaarrgh.
>We have a gourmand in out midst. It likes *all* the Star Trek movies.
That was I think the first time I've seen someone respond solely to a
person's signature...
Corscuant
You mean they had a #5, I thought they skipped to 6 for some reason. (I did
like the campfire scence and their confrontation with the false 'god'.)
Trek Barnes- Rabid fan of Star Trek, Star Trek:The Next Generation, Babylon 5,
ST:Deep Space Nine, ST:Voyager, Stargate(The Movie and the series), Earth:Final
Conflict, and all the Star Trek movies except for #1 an most of #5.
Werner Spahl
> >How much of the CGI could be done "speculatively", concurrent
> >or even before the filming of the episode?
>
> Zip. Because until it's edited, you don't know how long to make the shots, or
> how they'll intercut with the live action...and there's all the stuff from
> other eps to deal with as well.
BTW how are you planning those CGI parts? Are you providing exact
storyboards with ships and beams or do the CGI people just create
something along your script or do you check it prior rendering in
wireframe form or similar?
Werner Spahl (ui2...@sun1.lrz-muenchen.de)
"The meaning of my life is to make me crazy!"
Jms at B5
>storyboards with ships and beams or do the CGI people just create
>something along your script or do you check it prior rendering in
>wireframe form or similar
Pretty much all of the above, depending on the complexity of the sequence.
Michael J. Hennebry
AlEcyler, The Atomic Ninja <alec...@raex.com> wrote:
>>>Trek Barnes- Rabid fan of Star Trek, Star Trek:The Next Generation,
>Babylon 5,
>>>ST:Deep Space Nine, ST:Voyager, Stargate(The Movie and the series),
>Earth:Final
>>
>>Aaaarrgh.
>>We have a gourmand in out midst. It likes *all* the Star Trek movies.
>
>
>That was I think the first time I've seen someone respond solely to a
>person's signature...
Actually, I've done it before: to announce my intent to use it myself.
On one occasion, though not in this group, someone responded to my
signature.
Lisa Deutsch Harrigan
"AlEcyler, The Atomic Ninja" <alec...@raex.com> gave us these sage
words:
>>>Trek Barnes- Rabid fan of Star Trek, Star Trek:The Next Generation,
>Babylon 5,
>>>ST:Deep Space Nine, ST:Voyager, Stargate(The Movie and the series),
>Earth:Final
>>>Conflict, and all the Star Trek movies.
>>
>>Aaaarrgh.
>>We have a gourmand in out midst. It likes *all* the Star Trek movies.
>
>
>That was I think the first time I've seen someone respond solely to a
>person's signature...
>
Nah, we once had an entire thread based on Wendamatica's bug juice.
Auntie M <*>
P.S. I notice that Trek Barnes has now modified his sig <g>.
>
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I don't need no stinking disclaimer. This is my domain, and I can
say what ever I want. Right, dear?
11000+ messages to go. I was catching up when Jay was out of town,
Now Who Knows?
Corscuant
My DS9 and E;FC get pre-empted by baseball and football. B5 gets preempted by
Basketball. And people wonder why I don't like sports that much...
Trek Barnes- Rabid fan of Star Trek, Star Trek:The Next Generation, Babylon 5,
ST:Deep Space Nine, ST:Voyager, Stargate(The Movie and the series), Earth:Final
Nitflegal
>like the campfire scence and their confrontation with the false 'god'.)
>
>
>5,
>ST:Deep Space Nine, ST:Voyager, Stargate(The Movie and the series),
>Earth:Final
>Conflict, and all the Star Trek movies except for #1 an most of #5.
>
could be better than that? Well, besides a coherent plot, an ending, decent
special effects, and a Klingon saying "F*** You, I'm not apologizing for
nuthin!"
Mac Breck
Are you planning to show the actual Drakh attack in real time on any
episode, or is it going to be shown only in flashbacks, if at all?
Mac
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WGrace1038
>episode, or is it going to be shown only in flashbacks, if at all?
Check the movie "A Call to Arms" - this should cover the setup for "Crusade".
Mac Breck
Boy, do I feel like Spoo for brains. ;-)
Mac
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