Rogue Cancels in rcomp.home.automation originating from @Home Network
Robert L Bass
Wrong. Posts cancelled with authority of the ISP due to months-long
campaign of harassment by the originator of said posts -- one Jeffry
Lynn Morris of Meath Ireland.
ISP will shortly issue a permanent block on all posts originating from
that poster. The cancelled posts contained slanderous accusations,
were made under a bogus (ie, forged) e-mail name and address. If the
originator of said posts wishes to complain he will have to come out
from behind his bogus e-mail name and admit his actions publicly.
I find it interesting that the posts from this one spammer are which
were properly cancelled in several news groups, immediately come to
the attention of this complainant. In all probability, this
<bayar...@usa.net> entity is just another bogus name from the same
person who has been spamming multiple NGs with his personal vendetta
for months. He has posted over 4000 flames against one member in one
NG alone despite having been told by dozens of members of that NG to
cease spamming the NG.
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 05:25:59 GMT, bayar...@usa.net wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>It appears that a subscriber at @Home Network in Hartford, CT
>has issued a series of Rogue Cancels in the comp.home.automation
>news group. Two posts belong to "pe...@paw.net" have been
>cancelled illegally.
Blue Skies,
Robert L Bass
========================>
Bass Home Electronics >
80 Bentwood Road >
W Hartford, CT 06107 >
alar...@BassHome.com >
http://www.BassHome.com >
860-561-9542 Voice >
860-521-2143 Fax >
========================>
bayar...@usa.net
Robert L Bass wrote:
>
> Wrong. Posts cancelled with authority of the ISP due to months-long
> campaign of harassment by the originator of said posts -- one Jeffry
> Lynn Morris of Meath Ireland.
>
> ISP will shortly issue a permanent block on all posts originating from
> that poster. The cancelled posts contained slanderous accusations,
> were made under a bogus (ie, forged) e-mail name and address. If the
> originator of said posts wishes to complain he will have to come out
> from behind his bogus e-mail name and admit his actions publicly.
>
> I find it interesting that the posts from this one spammer are which
> were properly cancelled in several news groups, immediately come to
> the attention of this complainant. In all probability, this
> <bayar...@usa.net> entity is just another bogus name from the same
> person who has been spamming multiple NGs with his personal vendetta
> for months. He has posted over 4000 flames against one member in one
> NG alone despite having been told by dozens of members of that NG to
> cease spamming the NG.
>
Mr Bass,
The Cancels came to my attention this evening, because I happen
to be monitoring the control.cancel group. The News group that
I normally participate in has had several Rogue Cancels issued
against it in the last few days. These caught my eye because
they were cancelled with Netscape and the the Domains in the
Message-Ids did NOT match the Domains in the posts that were
Cancelled!
You've indicated that you were granted authority by this person
ISP to Cancel his posts. Well, in the future I suggest that you
state the reason why the posts was cancelled in the Body of the
Cancel message itself. Please note that Netscape Navigator is
NOT the proper tool to use for Third Party Cancels.
Have a look at the Cancel Messages FAQ which can be viewed
at http://www.math.uiuc.edu/~tskirvin/faqs/cancel.html
L Laffer
> You've indicated that you were granted authority by this person
> ISP to Cancel his posts.
This individual does not have authority to cancel my posts. They were
posted from Altopia which does not honor cancels. The posts were not spam
but merely posts that Bass does not like.
L Laffer
Robert L Bass
The individual who replied is thereby admitting he is the same person
who lied, claiming to have dane business with me. He is one and the
same as Jeffry Lynn Morris, a repeated spammer and hate monger who has
done all he can to destroy a very good news group. His thousands of
off-topic posts, slanderous accusations and generally offensive
behavior have earned him a place in the kill file hall of fame.
This fellow has spammed the NGs incessantly with his off-topic flame
posts. He has been caught mail-bombing and engaging in other DOS type
attacks. He posted those lying, slanderous accusations against my
business in an attempt to spread his one-sided hate war campaign into
this news group.
My ISP authorised me to cancel the posts due to his repeated refusal
to comply with the standards of Usenet behavior. He will find his
posts completely blocked shortly.
Anyone interested in an accurate review of this spammer's actions in
the past few months needs only to do a quick Dejanews search. Select
"complete" from the drop down box and type the following search
string: "Laffer Bobo" This will only display a few thousand of this
person's posts and a few thousnad replies from people who have asked
him to stop. Needless to say, Jeffry Lynn Morris is not easily
deterred.
On 29 Apr 1998 07:31:47 GMT, "L Laffer"
<lusco...@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote:
Blue Skies,
Robert L Bass
>You've indicated that you were granted authority by this person
>ISP to Cancel his posts. Well, in the future I suggest that you
>state the reason why the posts was cancelled in the Body of the
>Cancel message itself. Please note that Netscape Navigator is
>NOT the proper tool to use for Third Party Cancels.
>
>Have a look at the Cancel Messages FAQ which can be viewed
>at http://www.math.uiuc.edu/~tskirvin/faqs/cancel.html
No problem, friend. Thanks for your kind advice. Also, please feel
free to contact me by phone or private e-mail if you wish to discuss
this matter.
Pardon me for questioning your sincerity. The person who has been
spamming several NGs with his unrelenting, one-side flame fest for the
past several months has a habit of using multiple fake names and
e-mail addresses.
FWIW, this person has also mail-bombed my server, placed phony orders
on my e-commerce site and generally tried all manner of harassment. He
has already been kicked from one ISP but has since obtained the
services of another. This guy (Jeffry Lynn Morris is his real name) is
not your average flamer/spammer. If you would like to contact me I'll
be in my office on Friday morningt from 10:am EDT on.
Best regards,
Robert
L Laffer
>>>>He has posted over 4000 flames against one member in one
> >> NG alone despite having been told by dozens of members of that NG to
> >> cease spamming the NG.
Hey at least I don`t flame up the whole NG. 4,000 flames is not true
either, Bass. Don`t exaggerate, people aren`t fools and it`s easily
checked.
This is also kind of funny coming from Bass, the man who did a revenge
flooding of rec.aviation student not that long ago. He posted numerous huge
html articles that had the ng cleaned out of posts for a week.
Larry
Jim Sokoloff
alar...@BassHome.com (Robert L Bass) writes:
> This fellow has spammed the NGs incessantly with his off-topic flame
> posts.
From what I've seen, agreed.
> He has been caught mail-bombing and engaging in other DOS type
> attacks. He posted those lying, slanderous accusations against my
> business in an attempt to spread his one-sided hate war campaign into
> this news group.
I was hoping that this nonsense would have remained in
rec.aviation.student, but looks like it's too late for that.
> My ISP authorised me to cancel the posts due to his repeated refusal
> to comply with the standards of Usenet behavior. He will find his
> posts completely blocked shortly.
Now, *this* I have a problem with. Your ISP shouldn't be giving you
the authority to do third-party cancels on articles originating from
another ISP. That is a bit over-reaching IMO in light of the UseNet
historical precedent of "let anyone say anything and let God sort it
out." :-)
It's clear that you two don't get along. Fine; leave it at that...
I appeal to both of you to stop this senseless crapping in public
places. (I expect that one of you will heed this and other appeals and
behave and the other won't. I'll let each of you decide on your own
who I predict will behave... :-) ) I encourage both of you to continue
to post when the postings are on-topic and relevant.
---Jim
Jim_Thompson
On 29 Apr 1998 13:12:37 -0400, "Jim Sokoloff" <soko...@tiac.net>
wrote:
|alar...@BassHome.com (Robert L Bass) writes:
|
[snip]
|
|I appeal to both of you to stop this senseless crapping in public
|places. (I expect that one of you will heed this and other appeals and
|behave and the other won't. I'll let each of you decide on your own
|who I predict will behave... :-) ) I encourage both of you to continue
|to post when the postings are on-topic and relevant.
|
|---Jim
Just in case: I haven't learned yet how to put a filter in Agent to
"kill" this type of threads. Can anyone point me to how to learn this
skill? Thanks!
...Jim Thompson
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice: (602)460-2350 | Brass Rat |
| ana...@primenet.com Fax: (602)460-2142 | 1962 |
Remember, once you know your shit, you don't need to know anything else
For proper E-mail replys remove "numeric" from E-mail address.
Jim_Thompson
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:44:29 -0400, len...@dont.mail.me wrote:
|The free version of Agent does not support kill files. The full version
|does.
|Highlight the message to be killed. Press [Control-K] to bring up the
|filter window. Click "Paste Subject" and select "Delete" under Kill
|Action. Then select "Global" under Scopr. Next check "Apply Filters to
|Group Immediately" and uncheck "Expire this filter after..." Finally,
|click OK. The system will search for any other references to the thread
|and then display an option. Click "OK" and the thread is gone forever.
|
|As an alternative, simply select "Paste Author" and you will never see
|another message from that author. This takes some work with Jeffry Lynn
|Morris. He posts flames under dozens of fake names and e-mail addresses.
|You have to kill file all of them. After a while you'll see certain
|characteristics of all his messages and it gets to be a simple habit
|just clicking him off before you even read the message.
|
|Sorry this NG is being subjected to Mr Morris' (aka ASI aka L Laffer aka
|Q Salt aka J Morris aka peel aka peels aka ...) spammage. He has
|thoroughly trashed other news groups. Looks like he's decided to do the
|same here.
|
|Fortunately, I have received permission to cancel all of his flame
|posts. I'll try to sweep the trash out as often as I have time.
|
|Regards,
|Robert
|
|
Thanks! Looks a lot easier than the instructions in Agent.
Robert L Bass
Regards,
Robert
Jim_Thompson wrote:
>
> On 29 Apr 1998 13:12:37 -0400, "Jim Sokoloff" <soko...@tiac.net>
> wrote:
>
> |alar...@BassHome.com (Robert L Bass) writes:
> |
> [snip]
> |
> |I appeal to both of you to stop this senseless crapping in public
> |places. (I expect that one of you will heed this and other appeals and
> |behave and the other won't. I'll let each of you decide on your own
> |who I predict will behave... :-) ) I encourage both of you to continue
> |to post when the postings are on-topic and relevant.
> |
> |---Jim
>
> Just in case: I haven't learned yet how to put a filter in Agent to
> "kill" this type of threads. Can anyone point me to how to learn this
> skill? Thanks!
>
Robert L Bass
Hello Jim,
Thank you for sharing your comments and concerns. It is with
regret that
I have fealt compelled to finally take action on this issue. I
would
much prefer to have avoided this unpleasantness. As you may be
aware, I
have contributed to the discussion here from time to time. I have
and
will continue to participate responsibly in this excellent news
group.
Although there may be some disagreement about the propriety of
cancelling slanderous posts, I have only to appease my own UP. I
am
loathe to get into a public mud-fight with this person (or any
other). I
will not post flames here but I will not (in fact can not)
tolerate any
defamation of my business reputation. I have worked hard for
nearly 20
years to build a clean reputation off-line and for about 1-1/2
years
on-line. I intend to keep it that way.
Respectfully,
Robert L Bass
Jim Sokoloff wrote:
>
> alar...@BassHome.com (Robert L Bass) writes:
>
> > This fellow has spammed the NGs incessantly with his off-topic flame
> > posts.
>
> From what I've seen, agreed.
>
> > He has been caught mail-bombing and engaging in other DOS type
> > attacks. He posted those lying, slanderous accusations against my
> > business in an attempt to spread his one-sided hate war campaign into
> > this news group.
>
> I was hoping that this nonsense would have remained in
> rec.aviation.student, but looks like it's too late for that.
>
> > My ISP authorised me to cancel the posts due to his repeated refusal
> > to comply with the standards of Usenet behavior. He will find his
> > posts completely blocked shortly.
>
> Now, *this* I have a problem with. Your ISP shouldn't be giving you
> the authority to do third-party cancels on articles originating from
> another ISP. That is a bit over-reaching IMO in light of the UseNet
> historical precedent of "let anyone say anything and let God sort it
> out." :-)
>
> It's clear that you two don't get along. Fine; leave it at that...
>
Sam
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Q Salt <lusco...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>This is a post Bass just posted in comp.home.automation using a forged
>header. Guess he forgot to reset his thingie after his nefarious deeds.
>Funny thing is, he thinks it`s my post he cancelled. It wasn`t. It was
>another Altopia user. So he`s cancelling anyone from Altopia in any ng he
>happens to be in. unacceptable behaviour if you were to ask me. What do you
>think?
I think it's about time someone started cancelling posts from alt.net,
instead of having loons on alt.net forge-cancel others' posts.
If you are a rare breed: an alt.net subscriber that is not a
fully-certifiable kook, my advice to you is to find another provider.
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L Laffer
Robert L Bass <alar...@BassHome.com> wrote in article
<354794E2...@BassHome.com>...
> Hello Jim,
>
> Thank you for sharing your comments and concerns. It is with
> regret that
> I have fealt compelled to finally take action on this issue. I
> would
> much prefer to have avoided this unpleasantness. As you may be
> aware, I
> have contributed to the discussion here from time to time. I have
> and
> will continue to participate responsibly in this excellent news
> group.
>
> Although there may be some disagreement about the propriety of
> cancelling slanderous posts, I have only to appease my own UP. I
> am
> loathe to get into a public mud-fight with this person (or any
> other). I
> will not post flames here but I will not (in fact can not)
> tolerate any
> defamation of my business reputation. I have worked hard for
> nearly 20
> years to build a clean reputation off-line and for about 1-1/2
> years
> on-line. I intend to keep it that way.
>
Then you`d better stop posting, because with each of your own posts you
damage yourself.
This individual is responsible for chasing two university professors and an
elderly flight instructor who was well known as a gentleman in our ng out.
He harassed their employers, he wrote vile things about them on the net (he
accused one professor of child molestation) then he went around cancelling
posts of anyone he disageed with, forged peoples names in posts and in
e-mail. Got into vulgarities galore, nd generally just didn`t play nice
with others.
His incopetence as a ilot is legend. Why he`s even in rec.aviation.student
is a mystery, because his instructors have decided he`s a lost cause. He
had his student solo endorsement recinded after flying into controlled
airspace unauthorised and without any radio comms forcing three airliners
to divert. This is the aboslute truth about Bass. It can all be verified
and it`s old news in our ng. It was Bass that brought me over here by
cancelling posts. The ASI posts were not mine, but another Altopia clients.
Bass` server will be hearing from him soon.
Want to stop him? write to ab...@home.com. include the headers from any
posts he`s cancelled as well as the one he forged.
Larry
Lennie
Sam <sam...@dpinc.ml.org> wrote:
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>
>
>In article <01bd73bf$2299e260$6ce7...@saz.toonet.com>,
>Q Salt <lusco...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>This is a post Bass just posted in comp.home.automation using a forged
>>header. Guess he forgot to reset his thingie after his nefarious deeds.
>>Funny thing is, he thinks it`s my post he cancelled. It wasn`t. It was
>>another Altopia user. So he`s cancelling anyone from Altopia in any ng he
>>happens to be in. unacceptable behaviour if you were to ask me. What do you
>>think?
>
>I think it's about time someone started cancelling posts from alt.net,
>instead of having loons on alt.net forge-cancel others' posts.
>
>If you are a rare breed: an alt.net subscriber that is not a
>fully-certifiable kook, my advice to you is to find another provider.
Well personally, I'm a complete raving loony kook so Altopia suits me
fine.
Don't know why Bobo doesn't have an account there. Hmmmm.
Anyway, Q is right. It is a forgery. Only the real Lennie can
manipulate headers. Bobo can't even hide his news-reader.
He also canceled it almost immediately to cover his tracks.
If you don't like Altopia, then filter us out or just ignore us. DO
NOT CANCEL OUR POSTS. That's not nice and we get pretty pissed off as
Bobo is about to find out when he loses his account in a few hours.
"luscombe8a@hotmail.com(larry_laffer)"
>
>I think it's about time someone started cancelling posts from alt.net,
>instead of having loons on alt.net forge-cancel others' posts.
Hmmm, and the point would be? Who could we appoint? I`m sure you`ll
find at least ONE volunteer in this NG. Bobo? Wanna volunteer?
>
>If you are a rare breed: an alt.net subscriber that is not a
>fully-certifiable kook, my advice to you is to find another provider.
I`m not yet fully certified. I went out to hold up a 7-11 with a
banana (one of the required tasks) and fouled it up. I used an onion
instead and have been thus barred from fully fledged kookdom. It was a
close thing. If I`d used a guava, now... I might be headed for
greatness. hmm, think I`ll go on over to alt.kook and express my
dissatisfaction by cancelling a few posts.
Larry (just a student kook, check with you CFK before trying anything
suggested by you know who!)
"luscombe8a@hotmail.com_(larry_laffer)"
Larry (just a student kook, check with you CKI efore trying anything
Robert L Bass
The following purports to be a discussion between "lennie" and "Q
Salt" but both names are aliases of Jeffry Lynn Morris. This
individual has never met me nor has he ever done business with me. He
has been flaming me for months in rec.aviation.student. He usually
uses the alias, "L Laffer" while flaming and Q Salt while talking
about on-topic matters.
His original posts to this NG under another alias, "ASI", were just an
attempt to spread his ill will in comp.home.automation.
There are numerous regular members of this NG and one who also
regularly participates in rec.aviation.student as well as hers who can
attest to this man's maliciousness and habitual lying.
He has a long history of spamming other news groups, using multiple
aliases and e-mail headers to try to hide his true identity.
However, since he claims to know me personally, I have valid reason to
point out to this NG that this Jeffry Lynn Morris resides in Meath,
Ireland. I spent an evening perusing old Deja archives several months
ago to learn his real name. I found his address in the on-line
archives of the FAA, which are available at AVWEB's public database.
It is regretful that this person has now decided to spread his hate
messages to comp.home.automation. He has thoroughly trashed
rec.aviation.student. I have my ISP's permission to cancel any of his
slanderous and abusive posts. I will nevertheless refrain from further
doing so at this time.
My ISP, @Home, is investigating his abuse to determine if action can
be taken to block his server entirely. Perhaps the loss of access to
180,000 e-mail addresses and countless thousands of web sites will get
his recalcitrant UP to comply with standards of on-line ettiquette by
throwing him out. I'm not certain what, if anything, can actually be
done since this fellow knows how to invade other firms' servers and
has done so repeatedly in order to mail-bomb and otherwise harass
anyone he decides to attack.
Blue Skies,
Robert L Bass
from
>Sam <sam...@dpinc.ml.org> wrote:
>
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>>
>>
>>In article <01bd73bf$2299e260$6ce7...@saz.toonet.com>,
>>Q Salt <lusco...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>This is a post Bass just posted in comp.home.automation using a forged
>>>header. Guess he forgot to reset his thingie after his nefarious deeds.
>>>Funny thing is, he thinks it`s my post he cancelled. It wasn`t. It was
>>>another Altopia user. So he`s cancelling anyone from Altopia in any ng he
>>>happens to be in. unacceptable behaviour if you were to ask me. What do you
>>>think?
>>
>>I think it's about time someone started cancelling posts from alt.net,
>>instead of having loons on alt.net forge-cancel others' posts.
>>
>>If you are a rare breed: an alt.net subscriber that is not a
>>fully-certifiable kook, my advice to you is to find another provider.
>
>Well personally, I'm a complete raving loony kook so Altopia suits me
>fine.
>
>Don't know why Bobo doesn't have an account there. Hmmmm.
>
>Anyway, Q is right. It is a forgery. Only the real Lennie can
>manipulate headers. Bobo can't even hide his news-reader.
>
>He also canceled it almost immediately to cover his tracks.
>
>If you don't like Altopia, then filter us out or just ignore us. DO
>NOT CANCEL OUR POSTS. That's not nice and we get pretty pissed off as
>Bobo is about to find out when he loses his account in a few hours.
Blue Skies,
Lennie
"lusco...@hotmail.com (Larry Laffer)" wrote:
>>I think it's about time someone started cancelling posts from alt.net,
>>instead of having loons on alt.net forge-cancel others' posts.
>
>Hmmm, and the point would be? Who could we appoint? I`m sure you`ll
>find at least ONE volunteer in this NG. Bobo? Wanna volunteer?
>>
>>If you are a rare breed: an alt.net subscriber that is not a
>>fully-certifiable kook, my advice to you is to find another provider.
>
>I`m not yet fully certified. I went out to hold up a 7-11 with a
>banana (one of the required tasks) and fouled it up. I used an onion
>instead and have been thus barred from fully fledged kookdom.
An onion? Hah, what an amateur.
Lennie, QKI: CKII, ATK, banana rating.
Lennie
alar...@BassHome.com (Robert L Bass) wrote:
>The following purports to be a discussion between "lennie" and "Q
>Salt" but both names are aliases of Jeffry Lynn Morris. This
>individual has never met me nor has he ever done business with me. He
>has been flaming me for months in rec.aviation.student. He usually
>uses the alias, "L Laffer" while flaming and Q Salt while talking
>about on-topic matters.
I'm not Larry you fucking moron.
You have canceled my post and will pay the price.
BTW, Highflyer isn't Larry either. Altopia is one of the few places
on the net where people are safe from dictatorial fuckheads like you.
Unlikely Altopia will listen to your complaints seeing as you're
generating customers for them.
>My ISP, @Home, is investigating his abuse to determine if action can
>be taken to block his server entirely.
Fine, great, yahoo. Get them to filter out alt.net locally if you
want. Then piss off and stop annoying us.
You don't own usenet, neither does @home. They can't stop us posting.
>Perhaps the loss of access to
>180,000 e-mail addresses and countless thousands of web sites will get
>his recalcitrant UP to comply with standards of on-line ettiquette by
>throwing him out.
That is soooooo ironic coming from someone who issues rogue cancels so
regularly.
Hey everyone, @home is rogue. They ignore complaints continually that
one of their subscribers is actively and openly issuing rogue cancels.
>I'm not certain what, if anything, can actually be
>done since this fellow knows how to invade other firms' servers and
>has done so repeatedly in order to mail-bomb and otherwise harass
>anyone he decides to attack.
You are really losing it Bobo. Paranoia extremus. Ever cross your
mind that maybe Larry isn't the only one who hates you?
"Invade other firms servers" Haaa haaa haa. Everytime Bobo gets a
flame its must be from Larry invading someone else's server LOL.
"luscombe8a@hotmail.com (Larry Laffer)
>
>There are numerous regular members of this NG and one who also
>regularly participates in rec.aviation.student as well as hers who can
>attest to this man's maliciousness and habitual lying.
>
>He has a long history of spamming other news groups, using multiple
>aliases and e-mail headers to try to hide his true identity.
Rubbish Bobo. Lennie and ASI are not me. Anyone with any clue can see
that for themselves. The ISP may be the same but the headers are not.
There are differences. I have only two newsreaders, (hint) Lennie and
ASI have different ones. hmmmm. Three different people using the same
server? Could be. Especially since that server doesn`t give an nntp
host or IP. It also does not propegate cancels. Lots of things going
for it. Excellent tool. I recomend them. (Maybe I should do a little
TV spot for them. "Altopia! Lar uses them, you should too!"
>
>However, since he claims to know me personally, I have valid reason to
>point out to this NG that this Jeffry Lynn Morris resides in Meath,
>Ireland. I spent an evening perusing old Deja archives several months
>ago to learn his real name. I found his address in the on-line
>archives of the FAA, which are available at AVWEB's public database.
Good lord Bobo, You should do detective work part time. The criminal
fraternity would certainly breath much easier, anyway. Wha the hell
kind of evidence is that? Good thing just calling someone Larry is not
a BAD thing, or you could get sued! Saying someone is Slandering or
Libeling you is another matter, isn`t it?
>
>It is regretful that this person has now decided to spread his hate
>messages to comp.home.automation. He has thoroughly trashed
>rec.aviation.student. I have my ISP's permission to cancel any of his
>slanderous and abusive posts. I will nevertheless refrain from further
>doing so at this time.
Because you can`t. Loser. Bwaaawaawahaw. This is funny, Bobo. Like don
Quixote walking away from a windmill thinking he`s taught it a lesson!
BWAAAHAH. Oh I forgot, you don`t read my posts..
>
>My ISP, @Home, is investigating his abuse to determine if action can
>be taken to block his server entirely. Perhaps the loss of access to
>180,000 e-mail addresses and countless thousands of web sites will get
>his recalcitrant UP to comply with standards of on-line ettiquette by
>throwing him out. I'm not certain what, if anything, can actually be
>done since this fellow knows how to invade other firms' servers and
>has done so repeatedly in order to mail-bomb and otherwise harass
>anyone he decides to attack.
BS. Bobo. there is nothing they can do about simple FLAMING. It`s
Usenet wide and acceptable. Cancelling posts is not acceptable and it
is Home that will find itself in the boonies if they continue to
condone your activities. Believe it.
Larry
Andrew Gierth
>>>>> "Robert" == Robert L Bass <alar...@BassHome.com> writes:
Robert> I have my ISP's permission to cancel any of his slanderous
Robert> and abusive posts.
Your ISP does not have the right to give you that permission, unless
they also take steps to prevent your actions from affecting the rest
of Usenet. (i.e. they can do what the hell they like with their own
servers, as long as they keep it there.)
Robert> I will nevertheless refrain from further doing so at this
Robert> time.
Good.
--
Andrew.
Ron Natalie
> My ISP, @Home, is investigating his abuse to determine if action can
> be taken to block his server entirely. Perhaps the loss of access to
> 180,000 e-mail addresses and countless thousands of web sites will get
> his recalcitrant UP to comply with standards of on-line ettiquette by
> throwing him out. I'm not certain what, if anything, can actually be
> done since this fellow knows how to invade other firms' servers and
> has done so repeatedly in order to mail-bomb and otherwise harass
> anyone he decides to attack.
You're ISP had well investigate your own abuse of this news
group and countless violation of their own AUP which they
keep sending me references to. All of the claimed forgeries
of Mr. Morris that you claim have been sent from legitimate
anonymous servers.
You're a fine one to talk about e-mail harassment and etiquette
since you seem to specialize in doing just that.
The Sonny Bono Internet Tribute Commitee
On 29 Apr 1998 23:53:20 +0200, Sam <sam...@dpinc.ml.org> wrote:
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>In article <01bd73bf$2299e260$6ce7...@saz.toonet.com>,
>Q Salt <lusco...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>This is a post Bass just posted in comp.home.automation using a forged
>>header. Guess he forgot to reset his thingie after his nefarious deeds.
>>Funny thing is, he thinks it`s my post he cancelled. It wasn`t. It was
>>another Altopia user. So he`s cancelling anyone from Altopia in any ng he
>>happens to be in. unacceptable behaviour if you were to ask me. What do you
>>think?
>
>I think it's about time someone started cancelling posts from alt.net,
>instead of having loons on alt.net forge-cancel others' posts.
>
>If you are a rare breed: an alt.net subscriber that is not a
>fully-certifiable kook, my advice to you is to find another provider.
Your argument would have a lot more credence if you weren't posting
with an ml.org address (who has a reputation that isn't much better
than that of alt.net, unfortunately.)
--
The opinions of this poster do not necessarily reflect the
views of the Sonny Bono Internet Tribute Committee.
Lennie
Andrew Gierth <and...@erlenstar.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Andrew, that probably translates to "I have tried to cancel them but
can't because they have mal-formed from fields".
He can't get Netscape to manufacture the From: fields. They are
deliberately mal-formed for exactly that reason.
Also, people are cross-posting to nana-u so that their posts will be
resurrected, so he has probably (hopefully) realized that canceling
them is futile.
Sam
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>>If you are a rare breed: an alt.net subscriber that is not a
>>fully-certifiable kook, my advice to you is to find another provider.
>
> Your argument would have a lot more credence if you weren't posting
> with an ml.org address (who has a reputation that isn't much better
> than that of alt.net, unfortunately.)
Oh, go find a tree to run into, will you?
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Jeff Volp
Robert L Bass wrote:
>
> The following purports to be a discussion between "lennie" and "Q
> Salt" but both names are aliases of Jeffry Lynn Morris. This
> individual has never met me nor has he ever done business with me. He
> has been flaming me for months in rec.aviation.student. He usually
> uses the alias, "L Laffer" while flaming and Q Salt while talking
> about on-topic matters.
>
> attempt to spread his ill will in comp.home.automation.
>
> regularly participates in rec.aviation.student as well as hers who can
> attest to this man's maliciousness and habitual lying.
Robert may be referring to me. I participate here, and also monitor
R.A.S. The L. Laffer character has been trashing R.A.S. for months.
Whoever it is also also seems to use other aliases. I hope he doesn't
trash this newsgroup too.
Jeff
L Laffer
Jeff Volp wrote.
> Robert may be referring to me. I participate here, and also monitor
> R.A.S. The L. Laffer character has been trashing R.A.S. for months.
Nope, Bass has been trashing rec.aviation.student for almost a year, now.
> Whoever it is also also seems to use other aliases.
My other aliases are obvious and not intended to decieve. I did not make
the ASI posts. Bass says I did but he has zero proof and indeed offers
none. Wonder why?
After Bass was foiled in his attempt to cancel posts, he took to phoning up
his imagined tormentors in the middle of the night and hanging up after
saying nothing for ten seconds or so. He suppressed the call id in an
attempt to foil tracing to him. Pity he didn`t go to a `phone booth! He is,
as they say, screwed now.
I hope he doesn't
> trash this newsgroup too.
No intention of doing anything of the sort. I only posted here initially in
response to Bass` allegations that I was defaming him, and that was only
through crossposts from nanau, which you might note that Bass did his best
to prevent.
Larry