There is Jewish blood on the hands of Einstein.
josX
"Albert Einstein, volume 7/band7, The Berlin Years 1918-1921.
One obvious problem wiht /Einstein et al. 1920/ (Doc. 46) is that it
contains a gap in the Lerard-Einstein exchange. According to Lenards'
later account, he had posed two main questions to Einstein. Th efirst
involved his long-standing train-crash query, whereas the second
dealt with an alleged "contradiction" in general relativity due to
the relativity of rotational motion. Lenard noted that if the earth
were considered as at rest and the whole universe as rotating around
it, then this implies the admissibility of superluminal velocities,
an issue nowhere mentioned in /Einstein et al 1920/ (Doc. 46). In
answering this question, Einstein explained that the principle of
the constancy of the velocity of light no longer holds for reference
frames in arbitrary motion.
(...)
Lenard later wrote that he was astonished by Einstein's lack of
preparedness in answering his questions, and that only Gustav
Mie's leture had been of interest to him. Returning to Heidelberg,
he resigned from the Deutche Physikalishe Gesellshaft and began to
dream of the day when German physicists would turn their backs on the
"alien spirit" that he associated with the theory of relativity.
For Weyland, who reported on the Bad Nauheim meeting for the
Deutche Zeitung, this showdown marked the end of his campaign to
discredit Einstein and the "Einstein press." He accused Plankc and
the Einstein "clique" of throttling teh opposition and of allowing
only Lenard a chance to speak. Th erecord indicates, however, taht
the philosophers Melchior Pala/gyi and Oskar Kraus, both outspoken
critics of Einstein's theory, took part in the general discussion
(Einstein et al. 1920 [Doc. 46]). In Weyland's view, the Bad Nauheim
discussions were a sham with only one redeeming virtue: they revealed
the deep division within the German physics community. On the one hand
those had emerged who, "under the leadership of Lenard, rejected the
rape of physics by mathematical dogmas." On the other side were "the
Einsteinophiles" who "cling to their standpoint and try to leap up the
Parnassus of their rubbish of formulas." Weyland attacked the Deutche
Physikalische Gesellshaft, suggesting that it was "high time that fresh
air enter this rat's nest of scientific corruption." Soon afterwards,
Gehrcke and Lenard severed their ties to Weiland, who then left the
anti-relativists' arena to pursue a crusade against other "Jewish
influences" that he claimed were poisoning German culture. Gehrcke,
who consistently denied that his attacks had anything to do with
politics, continued to wage war with relativists like Hermann Weyl
and Hans Thirring. He later published a detailed documentary history
intended to demonstrate the wisdom of his prohpetic assertion that
Einstein's theory of relativity was nothing but a phenomenon of
mass psychology (Gehrcke 1924b). In the meantime, Lenard, supported
by Stark, laid teh groundwork for the Aryan physics movement, whose
followers later looked up to Lenard as their revered leader, precisely
as Weyland had predicted.
(...)
</quote>
So there you go. How were the German scientists (and Germany is a
scientific nation) deluded for instance into believing Jews were a pest?
Meanwhile, the rest of the world still thought of blacks as inferior,
and i saw on tv that aboriginees were regarden "flora and fauna" up
until 1967, when they were ruled sentient humans in a referendum.
What does this tell us?
Relativity has it's gigantic thrust on the basis of politics, on the
idea that if the bad-guys say Jews are bad, then the good guys must
think the poster-boy the bag-guys are using must in fact be a brilliant
scientist, after all: the Nazi's must be wrong in everything, so we
can just chose the oposite of their oponions and be always right.
I can imagine that Einstein has helped the Nazi-movement considderably
in the early days, giving it the backing of a large section of the
German physicists, or at least silence.
--
jos
Erica Sunderland
<snip>
> I can imagine that Einstein has helped the Nazi-movement considderably
> in the early days, giving it the backing of a large section of the
> German physicists, or at least silence.
imagine all you like but that's a pile of crapola.
Stick to blathering incompetently about physics: you're a lot better
at that than you are at history.
josX
I see the insult, but i miss the content... a growing trend amongst SR
believers ??
Try to post some content, even though you know it's wrong, so much more
interesting....
--
jos
David Evens
>Erica Sunderland wrote:
>>jo...@mraha.kitenet.net (josX) wrote in message news:<alv2kt$nr5$1...@news1.xs4all.nl>...
>><snip>
>>> I can imagine that Einstein has helped the Nazi-movement considderably
>>> in the early days, giving it the backing of a large section of the
>>> German physicists, or at least silence.
>>
>>imagine all you like but that's a pile of crapola.
>>
>>Stick to blathering incompetently about physics: you're a lot better
>>at that than you are at history.
>
>I see the insult, but i miss the content... a growing trend amongst SR
>believers ??
Why do you blame your inability to understand anything anyone says to
you on those who say things to you?
>Try to post some content, even though you know it's wrong, so much more
>interesting....
Ah, emulate YOU, you mean.
Erica Sunderland
> Erica Sunderland wrote:
> >jo...@mraha.kitenet.net (josX) wrote in message news:<alv2kt$nr5$1...@news1.xs4all.nl>...
> ><snip>
> >> I can imagine that Einstein has helped the Nazi-movement considderably
> >> in the early days, giving it the backing of a large section of the
> >> German physicists, or at least silence.
> >
> >imagine all you like but that's a pile of crapola.
> >
> >Stick to blathering incompetently about physics: you're a lot better
> >at that than you are at history.
>
> I see the insult, but i miss the content... a growing trend amongst SR
> believers ??
Have another insult on me: you either can't read, or you're a liar.
You said "I imagine that Einstein has helped the Nazi-movement
considerably in the early days". This is baseless shite. Defend it or
apologise.
Edward Green
Maybe you really are a troll after all. You graduate from being an
anti-relativity crank to a virulent anti-Einstein crank.
josX
I gave my reasons, now you give your counter reasons instead of merely
insult.
Einstein has helped the Nazi propaganda considerably, designing a solid
feeding ground for true physicists to dislike at least one very high
profile jew.
Your counter argument is exactly what. Given the fact that scientists
have a high esteem, this could and would have helped Hitler and anti-semetic
feelings. I think it might even have helped substantially, and you could
have read that one physicist went out on a crusade against Jews thanks
to Einstein.
>> Try to post some content, even though you know it's wrong, so much more
>> interesting....
--
jos
josX
So, we see the old trick again. Claim the other "simply hates us", and
that's where the arguments are coming from.
--
jos
Dirk Van de moortel
"Erica Sunderland" <erica_su...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e74dbcac.02091...@posting.google.com...
> jo...@mraha.kitenet.net (josX) wrote in message news:<alvs91$sjf$1...@news1.xs4all.nl>...
> > Erica Sunderland wrote:
> > >jo...@mraha.kitenet.net (josX) wrote in message news:<alv2kt$nr5$1...@news1.xs4all.nl>...
> > ><snip>
> > >> I can imagine that Einstein has helped the Nazi-movement considderably
> > >> in the early days, giving it the backing of a large section of the
> > >> German physicists, or at least silence.
> > >
> > >imagine all you like but that's a pile of crapola.
> > >
> > >Stick to blathering incompetently about physics: you're a lot better
> > >at that than you are at history.
> >
> > I see the insult, but i miss the content... a growing trend amongst SR
> > believers ??
>
> Have another insult on me: you either can't read, or you're a liar.
Both actually. And there is more.
http://www.google.com/search?&q=jos+boersema
Dirk Vdm
AllYou!
"josX" <jo...@mraha.kitenet.net> wrote in message
news:3d845b93$0$11979$e4fe...@dreader1.news.xs4all.nl...
He didn't say that you hated anyone, he simply said that you were a fool.
MasterCougar
posted news:2a0cceff.02091...@posting.google.com:
> Maybe you really are a troll after all. You graduate from being an
> anti-relativity crank to a virulent anti-Einstein crank.
>
>
That was what I said, but was told that no, he's not a troll, he
really is that stupid. My opinion? He's both. He's stupid and a troll.
--
Marc,
This is where I would normally put a funny sig, but now I just don't have
it in me.
Spaceman
> That was what I said, but was told that no, he's not a troll, he
>really is that stupid. My opinion? He's both. He's stupid and a troll.
>
The clock worshipping fools have a plan it seems,
They will call "people with facts" trolls and stupid.
Great physics Marcy!
Still refuse to actually "RESEARCH" a clock huh?
<LOL>
James M Driscoll Jr
Spaceman
http://www.realspaceman.com
Marco Nelissen
> Historical interlude ;):
Historical indeed. "Once upon a time" Jos was insane:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=aart90%24sdl%241%40news1.xs4all.nl
Any more questions?
Marco Nelissen
> that's where the arguments are coming from.
It works for you, right? Or have you already forgotten about the
global conspiracy that forced you out of university and in to
unemployment, and turned your TV in to a mind control device?
Edward Green
No. I claim you are delusional, and that's where the arguments are
coming from.
And why do you keep cross-posting to sci.physics? I've explained to
you it is part of your delusional structure that this group is
"important"; it's a small club after all, and you are shitting in our
soup.
Erica Sunderland
> erica_su...@hotmail.com (Erica Sunderland) wrote:
> >jo...@mraha.kitenet.net (josX) wrote in message news:<alvs91$sjf$1...@news1.xs4all.nl>...
> >>Erica Sunderland wrote:
> >>>jo...@mraha.kitenet.net (josX) wrote in message news:<alv2kt$nr5$1...@news1.xs4all.nl>...
> >>><snip>
> >>>> I can imagine that Einstein has helped the Nazi-movement considderably
> >>>> in the early days, giving it the backing of a large section of the
> >>>> German physicists, or at least silence.
> >>>
> >>>imagine all you like but that's a pile of crapola.
> >>>
> >>>Stick to blathering incompetently about physics: you're a lot better
> >>>at that than you are at history.
> >>
> >> I see the insult, but i miss the content... a growing trend amongst SR
> >> believers ??
> >
> >Have another insult on me: you either can't read, or you're a liar.
> >You said "I imagine that Einstein has helped the Nazi-movement
> >considerably in the early days". This is baseless shite. Defend it or
> >apologise.
>
> I gave my reasons, now you give your counter reasons instead of merely
> insult.
>
> Einstein has helped the Nazi propaganda considerably, designing a solid
> feeding ground for true physicists to dislike at least one very high
> profile jew.
which "true physicists"? Name three.
>
> Your counter argument is exactly what. Given the fact that scientists
> have a high esteem, this could and would have helped Hitler and anti-semetic
> feelings. I think it might even have helped substantially, and you could
> have read that one physicist went out on a crusade against Jews thanks
> to Einstein.
So you think Nazis hated Jews because of Einstein, and not vice versa?
Your history is as learned as your physics.
Erica Sunderland
> >From: MasterCougar master...@snotmail.com
>
> > That was what I said, but was told that no, he's not a troll, he
> >really is that stupid. My opinion? He's both. He's stupid and a troll.
> >
>
> The clock worshipping fools have a plan it seems,
> They will call "people with facts" trolls and stupid.
>
> Great physics Marcy!
>
> Still refuse to actually "RESEARCH" a clock huh?
> <LOL>
>
still refuse to actually "RESEARCH" a calculator and see what -4 x -4 is?
huh?
<LOL>
Dirk Van de moortel
"Erica Sunderland" <erica_su...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e74dbcac.02091...@posting.google.com...
Calculators have built-in clock chips.
What was it that the clocks do?
Right.
Dirk Vdm
Spaceman
>still refuse to actually "RESEARCH" a calculator and see what -4 x -4 is?
Fool!
It had to be programmed to do that.
still don't get "direction" huh?
still don't get that your -x will not work if subbed with a q so
you are wrong mathematically too?
David Evens
Or perhaps he's just a neonazi on top of everything else. He/s both
crazy and stupid enough to be one.
josX
Newton, Galileio, Maxwell.
>> Your counter argument is exactly what. Given the fact that scientists
>> have a high esteem, this could and would have helped Hitler and anti-semetic
>> feelings. I think it might even have helped substantially, and you could
>> have read that one physicist went out on a crusade against Jews thanks
>> to Einstein.
>
>So you think Nazis hated Jews because of Einstein, and not vice versa?
In some very real respects yes.
If you have an inflamatory situation in a antisemetic world (and antisemitism
existed everywhere, need i say again that aborigenees were "flora/fauna"
until 1967?!), and there is some high-profile person from "the other group"
which is destroying what you love most, this will not help diffuse the
situation. Compare mulsims who demolish the WTC building, is this going
to help the love for Muslims in the USA ? I think it didn't help much. In
fact, i am certain it worked for those that thrive on Muslim hatred.
>Your history is as learned as your physics.
Thanks!
--
jos
Dirk Van de moortel
"josX" <jo...@mraha.kitenet.net> wrote in message news:am6q8v$qh$1...@news1.xs4all.nl...
Each time I think it cannot *possible* get worse, you manage
to do it :-)
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/ImmortalFumbles.html#3Physicists
Title: "Newton, Galileo and Maxwell disliked Einstein"
Very good dog.
Dirk Vdm
grelbr
to bark back at him? Ignore him. Let him bark at himself. You will
not learn anything from him, and he has never learned anything from
anyone at any time.
grelbr
Erica Sunderland
If you think they disliked Einstein you have an interesting notion of
causality.
>
> >> Your counter argument is exactly what. Given the fact that scientists
> >> have a high esteem, this could and would have helped Hitler and anti-semetic
> >> feelings. I think it might even have helped substantially, and you could
> >> have read that one physicist went out on a crusade against Jews thanks
> >> to Einstein.
> >
> >So you think Nazis hated Jews because of Einstein, and not vice versa?
>
> In some very real respects yes.
> If you have an inflamatory situation in a antisemetic world (and antisemitism
> existed everywhere, need i say again that aborigenees were "flora/fauna"
> until 1967?!), and there is some high-profile person from "the other group"
> which is destroying what you love most,
who in the 30s thought Einstein was destroying "what they love most"?
Physicists? The man on the street in Munich?.
> this will not help diffuse the
> situation. Compare mulsims who demolish the WTC building, is this going
> to help the love for Muslims in the USA ? I think it didn't help much. In
> fact, i am certain it worked for those that thrive on Muslim hatred.
pure assertion. If you make an astonishing (bordering on anti-semitic)
claim then it's up to you to justify it with evidence of what people
thought in the 30s, not what you think now.
Erica Sunderland
> >From: erica_su...@hotmail.com (Erica Sunderland)
>
> >still refuse to actually "RESEARCH" a calculator and see what -4 x -4 is?
>
> Fool!
> It had to be programmed to do that.
>
> still don't get "direction" huh?
> still don't get that your -x will not work if subbed with a q so
> you are wrong mathematically too?
written and every maths class ever taught is wrong and you are right.
Isn't this a teensy bit arrogant?
Haven't you ever stopped to consider that there's a chance that you
might be wrong?
Spaceman
>Jesus - assuming that every calculator ever made, every textbook ever
>written and every maths class ever taught is wrong and you are right.
>Isn't this a teensy bit arrogant?
still refuse to replace the -x with a q huh?
<LOL>
>Haven't you ever stopped to consider that there's a chance that you
>might be wrong?
Have you tried researching directions?
South times south is NOT NORTH!
YOU LOSE!
You also refuse to research clocks huh?
<LOL>
wow,
such silly morons that have never researched anything in thier lives!
<LOL>
fools.
<LOL>
Robert Kolker
Erica Sunderland wrote:
>
> Haven't you ever stopped to consider that there's a chance that you
> might be wrong?
Nah! Everyone is deluded except him and Josx.
Bob Kolker
Spaceman
>Nah! Everyone is deluded except him and Josx.
and every clock maker and engineer and mechanic
and eve floor sweepers that have actually worked "with reality"
instead if just "with math"
Bob,
still won't research a clock huh?
Clock makers everywhere are laughing at you,
not me.
josX
This indeed appears to be the case.
--
jos
Marco Nelissen
Are you rich and successful in this world you live in?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=aart90%24sdl%241%40news1.xs4all.nl
Edward Green
That's a very sad post, Marco.
What does it say about you that you continue to bait him?
