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80 Knight

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Jun 26, 2002, 11:10:05 PM6/26/02
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Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up and
running. There is also a trailer available for download.

Here is the site:

http://nemesis.startrek.com/

--
"We must make sure that history never forget's the name Enterprise."
Capt. Jean-Luc Picard - TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise"


Steve Garrett Jr.

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Jun 26, 2002, 11:32:40 PM6/26/02
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80 Knight wrote:

Oh man, that movie looks like it's going to kick MUCHO MUCHO ASS!!!!

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80 Knight

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Jun 26, 2002, 11:36:24 PM6/26/02
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Steve Garrett Jr. <wolfp...@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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> 80 Knight wrote:
>
> > Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up
and
> > running. There is also a trailer available for download.
> >
> > Here is the site:
> >
> > http://nemesis.startrek.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "We must make sure that history never forget's the name Enterprise."
> > Capt. Jean-Luc Picard - TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise"
> >
> >
> >
>
> Oh man, that movie looks like it's going to kick MUCHO MUCHO ASS!!!!
>

LOL!!

I agree!! It does look good.

BTW, which trailer did you view? I could only get the "Small" trailer to
work. The "Large" got all screwy, and did not work properly. And, of course
I would NOT waste money buying "Quicktime Pro", so I could not see the "Full
Screen" trailer.

Thanks, just wondering.

Jeffrey Yu

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Jun 26, 2002, 11:40:24 PM6/26/02
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"80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up and
> running. There is also a trailer available for download.
>
> Here is the site:
>
> http://nemesis.startrek.com/

Oh gosh. I guess the leaked script is accurate. Just introduce a completely
new race of Remans to Trek and expect everyone to buy that they really
existed in the Romulan Empire this entire time. Or the completely laughable
idea of the enemy being a young Picard clone that we never knew about. I
wonder if it's too late to hope that the movie doesn't suck?


Jason L. Miles

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Jun 26, 2002, 11:43:15 PM6/26/02
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Probably

Lord Sander

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Jun 26, 2002, 11:45:10 PM6/26/02
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"80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com> schreef in bericht
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> Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up and
> running. There is also a trailer available for download.
>
> Here is the site:
>
> http://nemesis.startrek.com/

oh god (unconstitionally), I so hoped the premise floating around internet
was a fake.. I guess not..

Lord Sander,
"Oderint dum metuant"
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Glory to the Empire and Emperor Palpatine!


Dalton

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Jun 27, 2002, 12:07:31 AM6/27/02
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"Steve Garrett Jr." wrote:
>
> 80 Knight wrote:
>
> > Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up and
> > running. There is also a trailer available for download.
> >
> > Here is the site:
> >
> > http://nemesis.startrek.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "We must make sure that history never forget's the name Enterprise."
> > Capt. Jean-Luc Picard - TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise"
> >
> >
> >
>
> Oh man, that movie looks like it's going to kick MUCHO MUCHO ASS!!!!
>

...this is one week before Lord of the Rings. It's going down in flames.

...but I do have to say that this trailer looks pretty cool. Then again,
that's what a trailer is supposed to do, isn't it...

--
Rob "Roby" Dalton
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"Look," said Arthur, "would it save you a lot of time if I just gave up
and went mad now?" --Douglas Adams, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

80 Knight

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Jun 27, 2002, 12:59:45 AM6/27/02
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Dalton <r...@daltonator.net> wrote in message
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> "Steve Garrett Jr." wrote:
> >
> > 80 Knight wrote:
> >
> > > Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up
and
> > > running. There is also a trailer available for download.
> > >
> > > Here is the site:
> > >
> > > http://nemesis.startrek.com/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > "We must make sure that history never forget's the name Enterprise."
> > > Capt. Jean-Luc Picard - TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Oh man, that movie looks like it's going to kick MUCHO MUCHO ASS!!!!
> >
>
> ...this is one week before Lord of the Rings. It's going down in flames.
>
> ...but I do have to say that this trailer looks pretty cool. Then again,
> that's what a trailer is supposed to do, isn't it...

Never underestimate the power of the world famous Trekkies... ;-)

John Hansen

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Jun 27, 2002, 1:14:57 AM6/27/02
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"80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com> opened Pandora's Box (cleverly disguised as
<hmvS8.43493$71t1....@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>) on Thu, 27 Jun
2002 03:10:05 GMT...

>Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up and
>running. There is also a trailer available for download.
>
>Here is the site:
>
>http://nemesis.startrek.com/

LOL! The Argo (a.k.a. Federation Jeep) looks like a DeLorean!

That said, the Reman (I assume) ground vehicles look far more convincing,
militarily -- even if they are glorified dune buggies.

Cmdrwilkens

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Jun 27, 2002, 1:41:31 AM6/27/02
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"80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Dalton <r...@daltonator.net> wrote in message
> news:3D1A8F83...@daltonator.net...
> > "Steve Garrett Jr." wrote:
> > >
> > > 80 Knight wrote:
> > >
> > > > Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is
up
> and
> > > > running. There is also a trailer available for download.
> > > >
> > > > Here is the site:
> > > >
> > > > http://nemesis.startrek.com/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > "We must make sure that history never forget's the name Enterprise."
> > > > Capt. Jean-Luc Picard - TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Oh man, that movie looks like it's going to kick MUCHO MUCHO ASS!!!!
> > >
> >
> > ...this is one week before Lord of the Rings. It's going down in flames.
> >
> > ...but I do have to say that this trailer looks pretty cool. Then again,
> > that's what a trailer is supposed to do, isn't it...
>
> Never underestimate the power of the world famous Trekkies... ;-)
>
>

I think betting on it to gross twenty million domestic would be
overestimating their abilities...trekkies are going to be about the only
ones who care, everyone else will be shopping or waiting for Two Towers.

--
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C.S.Strowbridge

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Jun 27, 2002, 2:20:16 AM6/27/02
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Jason L. Miles wrote:
> "Jeffrey Yu" wrote:

>>I wonder if it's too late to hope that the movie doesn't suck?
>
> Probably

The trailer was better than I thought it would be, but it was
essentially just a bunch of action shots.

C.S.Strowbridge

His Divine Shadow

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Jun 27, 2002, 2:27:18 AM6/27/02
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"C.S.Strowbridge" <csstro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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So, did you people see when that shuttle fired through that wall?
I dunno, it didn't feel impressive at all, it's that godamn phaser system
and such stuff used in Trek.
It's just so lame that even when it fires and is supposed to look cool and
powerfull it looks like Steve Urkel trying to lift weights, whats worse this
is on purpose, that whole impression and feeling, is just me who expects the
Enterprise in ST:FC to being shooting streams of flowers out of it's phaser
arrays as one hears that godawful firing sound(wich totally lacks oomph)?


Kamakazie Sith

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Jun 27, 2002, 3:11:31 AM6/27/02
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"80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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>
> Never underestimate the power of the world famous Trekkies... ;-)
>

No, Dalton is right. The person who at Paramount determines the release
dates for movies should be smacked and hard. Hmm I wonder there has been a
lot of talk that if this movies make enough money then it won't be the last
movie for the TNG crew, maybe someone high up doesn't want that to happen.
Ooooo Paramount/Star Trek conspiracy!


Jeffrey Yu

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Jun 27, 2002, 3:13:40 AM6/27/02
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"C.S.Strowbridge" <csstro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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But explosions, jeeps, cloaking ships, and special effects won't help if a
two-hour long movie is running on a storyline like the one on the leaked
script.


Shogoki

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Jun 27, 2002, 3:51:20 AM6/27/02
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Also the Fed car looks tough the way a dune boogie looks tough, if you
watch carefully you can actually watch the solder points in the tube
frame, painted silver, but visible, there goes equipment replication,
they can't even replicate or build via replicators or some treknology
a simple tube frame. Not to mention half the crew's bodies are
completely exposed. Did you noticed how EXTREMLY close the Enterprise
and the bad guy's(i guess) ship was? Why that? Any guess?

His Divine Shadow

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Jun 27, 2002, 3:54:15 AM6/27/02
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"His Divine Shadow" <denni...@pp.inet.fi> wrote in message
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Oh yes, now I remember what that phaser firing sound is like, it remembers
me of when I take a piss.
How fitting that the Enterprise fires yellow beams...


Bryan

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Jun 27, 2002, 4:04:55 AM6/27/02
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"80 Knight" wrote in message...

> Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up and
> running. There is also a trailer available for download.
>
> Here is the site:
>
> http://nemesis.startrek.com/

I was watching the trailer - and now I know that they are brain-dead at
Paramount...

Anybody else notice something funny? "FINAL JOURNEY" is much _much_ too
close to "ANAL JOURNEY"... They could have chosen a better font, or widened
the spacing a little...

And did anybody notice that our little troll friend had "nemesis" in his
post, yet still managed to spell it wrong in his subject line? I nominate
80 Knight for Fuck-Up Fairy of the Month...

--
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not
sure about the former. - Albert Einstein


Kamakazie Sith

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Jun 27, 2002, 4:31:32 AM6/27/02
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"Shogoki" <eva_sho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I believe the military has dune buggy type vehicles, why is it all a sudden
a bad thing when ST does it. They are built for speed....

Yeah here is my guess. The E-E was sent to Romulus, or Remus on a
diplomatic mission. That's why they are so close to that ship.


Spyder

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Jun 27, 2002, 7:59:08 AM6/27/02
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..and then Dalton <r...@daltonator.net> said:

> "Steve Garrett Jr." wrote:
>>
>> 80 Knight wrote:
>>
>> > Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up
>> > and running. There is also a trailer available for download.
>> >
>> > Here is the site:
>> >
>> > http://nemesis.startrek.com/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > "We must make sure that history never forget's the name Enterprise."
>> > Capt. Jean-Luc Picard - TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise"
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Oh man, that movie looks like it's going to kick MUCHO MUCHO ASS!!!!
>>
>
> ...this is one week before Lord of the Rings. It's going down in flames.
>
> ...but I do have to say that this trailer looks pretty cool. Then again,
> that's what a trailer is supposed to do, isn't it...

Wing Commander had an awesome trailer.

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Doomriser

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Jun 27, 2002, 9:00:26 AM6/27/02
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"Jeffrey Yu" <NOjedia...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> Oh gosh. I guess the leaked script is accurate. Just introduce a
completely
> new race of Remans to Trek and expect everyone to buy that they really
> existed in the Romulan Empire this entire time. Or the completely
laughable
> idea of the enemy being a young Picard clone that we never knew about. I
> wonder if it's too late to hope that the movie doesn't suck?
>
The movie _WILL_ suck, but...

You know, I remember a TNG episode, the one where Troi is surgically altered
to resemble a Tal Shiar member, and her conspirator gets the ship's engineer
to sabotage the cloaking device. He was a "sympathesizer" with the
unification movement. Perhaps the lower decks of Romulan warbirds are filled
with Remans and we just never saw them?

-=Doomriser


Doomriser

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Jun 27, 2002, 9:23:03 AM6/27/02
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"80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up and
> running. There is also a trailer available for download.
>
> Here is the site:
>
> http://nemesis.startrek.com/
>
>
>
> --
It's going to suck, but how badly? ST: 3? ST:8? ST:9? ST:5?
I dunno about your speakers, but it sounded to me like the movie is going to
be a Dolby nightmare! They are injecting loud noises and lots of action into
an _awful_ script in order to float it.

-=Doomriser


Graeme Dice

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Jun 27, 2002, 9:37:40 AM6/27/02
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Kamakazie Sith wrote:
>
> "Shogoki" <eva_sho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:21elhu43r4f26iduv...@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 09:27:18 +0300, "His Divine Shadow"
> > <denni...@pp.inet.fi> wrote:

<snip>

> > Also the Fed car looks tough the way a dune boogie looks tough, if you
> > watch carefully you can actually watch the solder points in the tube
> > frame, painted silver, but visible, there goes equipment replication,
> > they can't even replicate or build via replicators or some treknology
> > a simple tube frame. Not to mention half the crew's bodies are
> > completely exposed. Did you noticed how EXTREMLY close the Enterprise
> > and the bad guy's(i guess) ship was? Why that? Any guess?
>
> I believe the military has dune buggy type vehicles, why is it all a sudden
> a bad thing when ST does it. They are built for speed....

It's welded, not replicated.

--
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.
-- Albert Einstein

Shogoki

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Jun 27, 2002, 10:01:51 AM6/27/02
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I know, but i expected fed ground vehicles to be more than scouts, and
if it wasn't stupid enough to put captains on away teams, now they
have them in open ground on eye catching scout vehicles.

>Yeah here is my guess. The E-E was sent to Romulus, or Remus on a
>diplomatic mission. That's why they are so close to that ship.
>

Can't argue against that, it still looks needlessly close.

Iceberg

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Jun 27, 2002, 10:36:17 AM6/27/02
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DUNE BUGGIES? Oh, as any MSTie knows, a dune buggy modified to
represent a military vehicle is NOT a sign of quality in a film...

Additionally, this proves that the UFP does not have repulsor
technology sophisticated enough to be used on military vehicles the
way the Empire does.

-- Ice
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Right here, right now! Let's make history!" - Vyse the Legend
Skies of Arcadia: Sega Dreamcast (11/4/2000), Nintendo GameCube (Q4
2002), Sony PlayStation 2 (Q1-Q2, 2003).

Steve Garrett Jr.

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Jun 27, 2002, 12:53:25 PM6/27/02
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Dalton wrote:

> "Steve Garrett Jr." wrote:
>
>>80 Knight wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up and
>>>running. There is also a trailer available for download.
>>>
>>>Here is the site:
>>>
>>>http://nemesis.startrek.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>"We must make sure that history never forget's the name Enterprise."
>>>Capt. Jean-Luc Picard - TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Oh man, that movie looks like it's going to kick MUCHO MUCHO ASS!!!!
>>
>>
>
> ...this is one week before Lord of the Rings. It's going down in flames.
>
> ...but I do have to say that this trailer looks pretty cool. Then again,
> that's what a trailer is supposed to do, isn't it...
>
>

Of course, I'm planning on seeing ST:N but not LOTR:TTT. Not so much a
measurement of my like for Trek as it is my apathy toward LOTR. And,
I'll add, I'll probably see "Die Another Day" before either comes out.
:-) Bond rules.

Iceberg

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Jun 27, 2002, 1:00:28 PM6/27/02
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On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 16:53:25 GMT, "Steve Garrett Jr."
<wolfp...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:

>Dalton wrote:
>
>> "Steve Garrett Jr." wrote:
>>
>>>80 Knight wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up and
>>>>running. There is also a trailer available for download.
>>>>
>>>>Here is the site:
>>>>
>>>>http://nemesis.startrek.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>"We must make sure that history never forget's the name Enterprise."
>>>>Capt. Jean-Luc Picard - TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Oh man, that movie looks like it's going to kick MUCHO MUCHO ASS!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>
>> ...this is one week before Lord of the Rings. It's going down in flames.
>>
>> ...but I do have to say that this trailer looks pretty cool. Then again,
>> that's what a trailer is supposed to do, isn't it...
>>
>>
>
>Of course, I'm planning on seeing ST:N but not LOTR:TTT.

HERETIC!

Durandal

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Jun 27, 2002, 1:30:54 PM6/27/02
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The voice in my head named Steve Garrett Jr. told me:

> 80 Knight wrote:
>
>> Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up
>> and running. There is also a trailer available for download. Here is
>> the site: http://nemesis.startrek.com/ -- "We must make sure that
>> history never forget's the name Enterprise." Capt. Jean-Luc Picard -
>> TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise"
>
> Oh man, that movie looks like it's going to kick MUCHO MUCHO ASS!!!!

You haven't read that leaked script, have you? It's going to be an
absolute piece of shit. But the trailer did look pretty badass.
--
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Altar Boys.

Sir Nitram

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Jun 27, 2002, 1:35:48 PM6/27/02
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>The voice in my head named Steve Garrett Jr. told me:
>> 80 Knight wrote:
>>
>>> Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up
>>> and running. There is also a trailer available for download. Here is
>>> the site: http://nemesis.startrek.com/ -- "We must make sure that
>>> history never forget's the name Enterprise." Capt. Jean-Luc Picard -
>>> TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise"
>>
>> Oh man, that movie looks like it's going to kick MUCHO MUCHO ASS!!!!
>
>You haven't read that leaked script, have you? It's going to be an
>absolute piece of shit. But the trailer did look pretty badass.

Is it me, or is there some serious attempts to look like AOTC and TPM in there?
The Shuttle Craft firing in the hangar or whatever, the structures on the
barren rock...
--
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C.S.Strowbridge

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Jun 27, 2002, 1:43:31 PM6/27/02
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Jeffrey Yu wrote:
> "C.S.Strowbridge" wrote:
>>Jason L. Miles wrote:


>>>>I wonder if it's too late to hope that the movie doesn't suck?
>>
>>>Probably
>>
>>The trailer was better than I thought it would be, but it was
>>essentially just a bunch of action shots.
>
> But explosions, jeeps, cloaking ships, and special effects won't help
> if a two-hour long movie is running on a storyline like the one on the
> leaked script.

That script couldn't support a single hour long episode.

C.S.Strowbridge

80 Knight

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Jun 27, 2002, 2:15:27 PM6/27/02
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Cmdrwilkens <burn...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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What is "Two Towers"? Other than the abvious...A new movie or something?

80 Knight

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Jun 27, 2002, 2:19:07 PM6/27/02
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His Divine Shadow <denni...@pp.inet.fi> wrote in message
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Technically, the phaser beams are orange. And the Q-Torps are blue. But, you
were close...;-)

80 Knight

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Jun 27, 2002, 2:21:07 PM6/27/02
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Doomriser <doom....@3web.net> wrote in message
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Well, Trek:3 sucked, so did Trek:5, but 8 was excelent, and 9 was good. IMO
of course.

80 Knight

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Bryan <helm_ha...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "80 Knight" wrote in message...
>
> > Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up
and
> > running. There is also a trailer available for download.
> >
> > Here is the site:
> >
> > http://nemesis.startrek.com/
>
> I was watching the trailer - and now I know that they are brain-dead at
> Paramount...
>
> Anybody else notice something funny? "FINAL JOURNEY" is much _much_ too
> close to "ANAL JOURNEY"... They could have chosen a better font, or
widened
> the spacing a little...
>
> And did anybody notice that our little troll friend had "nemesis" in his
> post, yet still managed to spell it wrong in his subject line? I nominate
> 80 Knight for Fuck-Up Fairy of the Month...
>

Oh, I am soooo sorry, my Lord. And, in case you did not know, you usually
type the subject header BEFORE the message.

And, so what? I have publicly admitted my spelling sucks, just like Strow
has admitted his grammer sucks. What is the problem? Was is THAT bad that
you had no clue in hell as to what the message was about? I think not.

And, stop trying to get someone to take over your "Fuck - Up Fairy of the
Month" position.

Sir Nitram

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Jun 27, 2002, 2:26:13 PM6/27/02
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The Two Towers. The second part of the Lord Of The Rings Trilogy. Part of the
biggest movie series since Star Wars. One of the great literary works of all
time.

How, precisely, did you /not/ know about this?

Iceberg

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Jun 27, 2002, 2:32:00 PM6/27/02
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On 27 Jun 2002 17:30:54 GMT, Durandal <duran...@mac.com> wrote:

>The voice in my head named Steve Garrett Jr. told me:
>> 80 Knight wrote:
>>
>>> Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up
>>> and running. There is also a trailer available for download. Here is
>>> the site: http://nemesis.startrek.com/ -- "We must make sure that
>>> history never forget's the name Enterprise." Capt. Jean-Luc Picard -
>>> TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise"
>>
>> Oh man, that movie looks like it's going to kick MUCHO MUCHO ASS!!!!
>
>You haven't read that leaked script, have you? It's going to be an
>absolute piece of shit. But the trailer did look pretty badass.

Where's the leaked script located?

Iceberg

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On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:15:27 GMT, "80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com>
wrote:

The second movie (and second book) in the Lord of the Rings cycle.

Now kneel and confess your true god, heathen.

Sir Nitram

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>Doomriser <doom....@3web.net> wrote in message
>news:3d1b1...@news.cybersurf.net...
>> "80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:hmvS8.43493$71t1....@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
>> > Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up
>and
>> > running. There is also a trailer available for download.
>> >
>> > Here is the site:
>> >
>> > http://nemesis.startrek.com/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> It's going to suck, but how badly? ST: 3? ST:8? ST:9? ST:5?
>> I dunno about your speakers, but it sounded to me like the movie is going
>to
>> be a Dolby nightmare! They are injecting loud noises and lots of action
>into
>> an _awful_ script in order to float it.
>>
>> -=Doomriser
>>
>>
>
>Well, Trek:3 sucked, so did Trek:5, but 8 was excelent, and 9 was good. IMO
>of course.
>

Even-Odd rule. Even numbered Trek movies are good, Odd are bad.

C.S.Strowbridge

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Steve Garrett Jr. wrote:

> And, I'll add, I'll probably see "Die Another Day" before either comes
> out. :-) Bond rules.

Woo hoo! I love Bond films.

C.S.Strowbridge

RayCav

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> Additionally, this proves that the UFP does not have repulsor
> technology sophisticated enough to be used on military vehicles the
> way the Empire does.

I'm surprised the Federation has military vehicles.

Kamakazie Sith

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"80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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Have you been living in a cave?


Kamakazie Sith

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"Durandal" <duran...@mac.com> wrote in message
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> The voice in my head named Steve Garrett Jr. told me:
> > 80 Knight wrote:
> >
> >> Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up
> >> and running. There is also a trailer available for download. Here is
> >> the site: http://nemesis.startrek.com/ -- "We must make sure that
> >> history never forget's the name Enterprise." Capt. Jean-Luc Picard -
> >> TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise"
> >
> > Oh man, that movie looks like it's going to kick MUCHO MUCHO ASS!!!!
>
> You haven't read that leaked script, have you? It's going to be an
> absolute piece of shit. But the trailer did look pretty badass.
> --

The leaked script for SW: EII has the Emperor hiring Subulba to take out Obi
Wan. Don't put to much faith into this leaked script give the movie a
chance.


Kamakazie Sith

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"Sir Nitram" <nitramt...@aol.comAntiSpam> wrote in message
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> >The voice in my head named Steve Garrett Jr. told me:
> >> 80 Knight wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up
> >>> and running. There is also a trailer available for download. Here is
> >>> the site: http://nemesis.startrek.com/ -- "We must make sure that
> >>> history never forget's the name Enterprise." Capt. Jean-Luc Picard -
> >>> TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise"
> >>
> >> Oh man, that movie looks like it's going to kick MUCHO MUCHO ASS!!!!
> >
> >You haven't read that leaked script, have you? It's going to be an
> >absolute piece of shit. But the trailer did look pretty badass.
>
> Is it me, or is there some serious attempts to look like AOTC and TPM in
there?
> The Shuttle Craft firing in the hangar or whatever, the structures on the
> barren rock...
> --

No.


Kamakazie Sith

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"Graeme Dice" <grd...@sk.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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I'm not seeing these weld points, but my monitor is going bad so that might
be why.


Kamakazie Sith

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> >I believe the military has dune buggy type vehicles, why is it all a
sudden
> >a bad thing when ST does it. They are built for speed....
> >
>
> I know, but i expected fed ground vehicles to be more than scouts, and
> if it wasn't stupid enough to put captains on away teams, now they
> have them in open ground on eye catching scout vehicles.

Hopefully we will get to see those vehicles sometime.

> >Yeah here is my guess. The E-E was sent to Romulus, or Remus on a
> >diplomatic mission. That's why they are so close to that ship.
> >
>
> Can't argue against that, it still looks needlessly close.

Perhaps the Reman ship moved in close to the E-E to intimidate.


Lord Sander

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"Kamakazie Sith" <Ja...@NOSPAMccutah.com> schreef in bericht
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> > >> Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up
> > >> and running. There is also a trailer available for download. Here is
> > >> the site: http://nemesis.startrek.com/ -- "We must make sure that
> > >> history never forget's the name Enterprise." Capt. Jean-Luc Picard -
> > >> TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise"
> > >
> > > Oh man, that movie looks like it's going to kick MUCHO MUCHO ASS!!!!
> >
> > You haven't read that leaked script, have you? It's going to be an
> > absolute piece of shit. But the trailer did look pretty badass.
>
> The leaked script for SW: EII has the Emperor hiring Subulba to take out
Obi
> Wan.

TheForce.Net's Virtual Edition was spot on.

> Don't put to much faith into this leaked script give the movie a
> chance.

The leaked script of Nemesis said exactly what we see in the trailer, a new
brother of Data, a clone of Picard, and a nephew race of the Romulans, the
Remans. And I'd bet we'll see Troi and Riker getting married too in Nemesis.

Lord Sander,
"Oderint dum metuant"
http://www.celnews.net/
Glory to the Empire and Emperor Palpatine!


Lord Sander

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"Sir Nitram" <nitramt...@aol.comAntiSpam> schreef in bericht
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> >> It's going to suck, but how badly? ST: 3? ST:8? ST:9? ST:5?
> >> I dunno about your speakers, but it sounded to me like the movie is
going
> >to
> >> be a Dolby nightmare! They are injecting loud noises and lots of action
> >into
> >> an _awful_ script in order to float it.
> >
> >Well, Trek:3 sucked, so did Trek:5, but 8 was excelent, and 9 was good.
IMO
> >of course.
>
> Even-Odd rule. Even numbered Trek movies are good, Odd are bad.

I think they're about to blow that tradition to hell.

Kamakazie Sith

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"Lord Sander" <impe...@celnews.net> wrote in message
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>
> > Don't put to much faith into this leaked script give the movie a
> > chance.
>
> The leaked script of Nemesis said exactly what we see in the trailer, a
new
> brother of Data, a clone of Picard, and a nephew race of the Romulans, the
> Remans. And I'd bet we'll see Troi and Riker getting married too in
Nemesis.
>

The leaked script of Episode II also had a lot of what we saw in the actual
movie, however stupid parts like Sebulba weren't in it.

I'm not so sure what's so bad about this plot anyway?


Durandal

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The voice in my head named Kamakazie Sith told me:

> The leaked script for SW: EII has the Emperor hiring Subulba to take
> out Obi Wan. Don't put to much faith into this leaked script give the
> movie a chance.

The leaked script shows us exactly what we saw in the trailer: Data's
brother, Picard's clone, a Federation Dune Buggy, Troi presumably being
mind-raped, et cetera.

And, the leaked script I had for Episode II matched the movie almost
precisely, but it must have been an earlier draft, since a good deal of
scenes weren't in the final. I was looking forward to the scene where
Anakin meets Padme's parents, though.

Enigma

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"Lord Sander" <impe...@celnews.net> wrote in message
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Apparantly my sister saw the ST trailer on TV and according to her Picard
mentioned that the problem was caused by his son, not a clone.


Doomriser

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"Lord Sander" <impe...@celnews.net> wrote in message
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> "Sir Nitram" <nitramt...@aol.comAntiSpam> schreef in bericht
> news:20020627145110...@mb-mu.aol.com...
> > Even-Odd rule. Even numbered Trek movies are good, Odd are bad.
>
> I think they're about to blow that tradition to hell.
>
Yeeeppp. DYK that some asshole in a movie review book said that ST:9 broke
the bad-odd movie tradition? Umm...no it didn't.

-=Doomriser


Doomriser

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"80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com> wrote in message news:nIIS8.3965> >

It's going to suck, but how badly? ST: 3? ST:8? ST:9? ST:5?

>


> Well, Trek:3 sucked, so did Trek:5, but 8 was excelent, and 9 was good.
IMO
> of course.
>
>

ST:8??? You mean the one where Kirk was killed by a falling rock? The one
where the E-D was taken out by a 20-year old BOP? ST:9? The one that says
its okay for some white supremacists to live forever while the rest of the
galaxy dies from curable diseases?

--
-=Doomriser
"No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should
they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God."
-- George H. W. Bush, to a reporter in 1988, while serving as vice-president
and running for President

Doomriser

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C.S.Strowbridge" <csstro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Yeah, I bet Bond 20 will be "pretty good."

Doomriser

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>
> "Lord Sander" <impe...@celnews.net> wrote in message
> news:affsmi$d58nj$1...@ID-142672.news.dfncis.de...
>
> I'm not so sure what's so bad about this plot anyway?
>

In one of the drafts, it says stuff like 'The Remans are scary looking,
kinda like Nosferatu-like creatures' and 'the dune buggies will be like the
ones on [some old T.V. show or something]' and so on. They were consciously
ripping off other SCI-FI in order to put together this frankenstein hackjob
of a movie. (Kinda like my ASVS RPG, actually!)

Read one of my older posts on the subject:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=romulan+group:alt.startrek.vs.starwars+aut
hor:Doomriser&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&selm=3c9bcb46_1%40news.cybersurf.ne
t&rnum=3

Lord Sander

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"Doomriser" <doom....@3web.net> schreef in bericht
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> ST:8??? You mean the one where Kirk was killed by a falling rock? The one
> where the E-D was taken out by a 20-year old BOP?

No, that was ST:7 :P
ST:8 is First Contact

Lord Sander

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> > > The leaked script for SW: EII has the Emperor hiring Subulba to take
out
> > Obi
> > > Wan.
> >
> > TheForce.Net's Virtual Edition was spot on.
> >
> > > Don't put to much faith into this leaked script give the movie a
> > > chance.
> >
> > The leaked script of Nemesis said exactly what we see in the trailer, a
> new
> > brother of Data, a clone of Picard, and a nephew race of the Romulans,
the
> > Remans. And I'd bet we'll see Troi and Riker getting married too in
> Nemesis.
> >
> Apparantly my sister saw the ST trailer on TV and according to her Picard
> mentioned that the problem was caused by his son, not a clone.

probably just a figure of speech, like Boba being Jango's "son"

Doomriser

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"Lord Sander" <impe...@celnews.net> wrote in message
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> "Doomriser" <doom....@3web.net> schreef in bericht
> news:3d1b8...@news.cybersurf.net...
> > ST:8??? You mean the one where Kirk was killed by a falling rock? The
one
> > where the E-D was taken out by a 20-year old BOP?
>
> No, that was ST:7 :P
> ST:8 is First Contact
>
Oops. Yeah, ST:8 was entertaining. Though it had no reedeming intellectual
value.

-=Doomriser


C.S.Strowbridge

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Jun 27, 2002, 6:02:31 PM6/27/02
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Doomriser wrote:
> "80 Knight" wrote:

>>Well, Trek:3 sucked, so did Trek:5, but 8 was excelent, and 9 was good.
>>IMO of course.
>
> ST:8??? You mean the one where Kirk was killed by a falling rock? The one
> where the E-D was taken out by a 20-year old BOP?

No, that was #7. 8 was First Contact.

C.S.Strowbridge

C.S.Strowbridge

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Jun 27, 2002, 6:34:40 PM6/27/02
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Doomriser wrote:

> C.S.Strowbridge" wrote:
>>Steve Garrett Jr. wrote:

>>> And, I'll add, I'll probably see "Die Another Day" before either comes
>>> out. :-) Bond rules.
>>
>>Woo hoo! I love Bond films.
>

> Yeah, I bet Bond 20 will be "pretty good."

Oi! Are you mocking me?

C.S.Strowbridge

Kamakazie Sith

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"Durandal" <duran...@mac.com> wrote in message
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> The voice in my head named Kamakazie Sith told me:
> > The leaked script for SW: EII has the Emperor hiring Subulba to take
> > out Obi Wan. Don't put to much faith into this leaked script give the
> > movie a chance.
>
> The leaked script shows us exactly what we saw in the trailer: Data's
> brother, Picard's clone, a Federation Dune Buggy, Troi presumably being
> mind-raped, et cetera.
>
> And, the leaked script I had for Episode II matched the movie almost
> precisely, but it must have been an earlier draft, since a good deal of
> scenes weren't in the final. I was looking forward to the scene where
> Anakin meets Padme's parents, though.
> --

That's what I'm talking about. Leaked scripts can be many things, rough
drafts for example. I think the leaked script for ST: N is a rough draft.
I could very well be wrong though.


Kamakazie Sith

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"Doomriser" <doom....@3web.net> wrote in message
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Does SW? Ya know SW didn't change my life, I wouldn't expect ST to either.
It's entertainment!


Kamakazie Sith

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"Doomriser" <doom....@3web.net> wrote in message
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> "80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com> wrote in message news:nIIS8.3965> >
>
> It's going to suck, but how badly? ST: 3? ST:8? ST:9? ST:5?
>
> >
> > Well, Trek:3 sucked, so did Trek:5, but 8 was excelent, and 9 was good.
> IMO
> > of course.
> >
> >
> ST:8??? You mean the one where Kirk was killed by a falling rock? The one
> where the E-D was taken out by a 20-year old BOP? ST:9? The one that says
> its okay for some white supremacists to live forever while the rest of the
> galaxy dies from curable diseases?
>

Kirk wasn't killed by a falling rock, he was killed by falling on rocks :)

What movie says it's okay for white supremacists to live forever? LOL some
of the things you people get from these movies....it's silly. No offense
though. This is on par with the claims that George Lucas is racist because
of Jango Fett.


Jonathan Boyd

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Jun 27, 2002, 7:18:33 PM6/27/02
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Doomriser wrote:

I think people are a little harsh on 9. It was more in the style of 4, than
the previous ones - a much lighter film which I guess isn't as interesting
to most people here as the darker ones like 2, 6 and 8. It would have been
much better as a 2-part episode though, rather than a film.
--
Jonathan Boyd
MSN/AIM: EmperorBoyd | Web: http://www.jboyd.co.uk/

Graeme Dice

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He only made one of everybody's favourite characters a Maori. That must
be racism against Hispanics.

Graeme Dice
--
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.
-- Albert Einstein

80 Knight

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Sir Nitram <nitramt...@aol.comAntiSpam> wrote in message
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> >Cmdrwilkens <burn...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:afe8k7$de819$1...@ID-97732.news.dfncis.de...
> >> "80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com> wrote in message
> >> news:5ZwS8.44211$71t1....@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> >> > Dalton <r...@daltonator.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:3D1A8F83...@daltonator.net...
> >> > > "Steve Garrett Jr." wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 80 Knight wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site
is
> >> up
> >> > and
> >> > > > > running. There is also a trailer available for download.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Here is the site:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > http://nemesis.startrek.com/
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --
> >> > > > > "We must make sure that history never forget's the name
> >Enterprise."
> >> > > > > Capt. Jean-Luc Picard - TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise"
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Oh man, that movie looks like it's going to kick MUCHO MUCHO
ASS!!!!
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ...this is one week before Lord of the Rings. It's going down in
> >flames.
> >> > >
> >> > > ...but I do have to say that this trailer looks pretty cool. Then
> >again,
> >> > > that's what a trailer is supposed to do, isn't it...
> >> >
> >> > Never underestimate the power of the world famous Trekkies... ;-)
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> I think betting on it to gross twenty million domestic would be
> >> overestimating their abilities...trekkies are going to be about the
only
> >> ones who care, everyone else will be shopping or waiting for Two
Towers.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >What is "Two Towers"? Other than the abvious...A new movie or something?
> >
>
> The Two Towers. The second part of the Lord Of The Rings Trilogy. Part of
the
> biggest movie series since Star Wars. One of the great literary works of
all
> time.
>
> How, precisely, did you /not/ know about this?


Well, three lovley responces. First, to Sir Nitram, thank you for the info.
I did not know about it bacause I have no interest in LOTR what so ever.

To Iceberg, I will just say...Wow. That was odd.

And, lastly, to Kamakazie Sith, the obvious, yet true answer is NO. I have
not.

Thank you for your time.

80 Knight

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> "80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com> wrote in message news:nIIS8.3965> >
>
> It's going to suck, but how badly? ST: 3? ST:8? ST:9? ST:5?
>
> >
> > Well, Trek:3 sucked, so did Trek:5, but 8 was excelent, and 9 was good.
> IMO
> > of course.
> >
> >
> ST:8??? You mean the one where Kirk was killed by a falling rock? The one
> where the E-D was taken out by a 20-year old BOP? ST:9? The one that says
> its okay for some white supremacists to live forever while the rest of the
> galaxy dies from curable diseases?
>

I believe you have your Trek films numbers mixed up a bit...;-)

ST:8 was First Contact. The one with the Borg. The one where Kirk was killed
(Although, Not by a falling rock) was ST: 7 Generations. And, as for the
Bird of Prey, the Enterprise-D's shields were not working, so the BOP was
able to just sit there and fire away.

As for your comments on Trek:9, I will leave that to the others on this NG.

Lord Sander

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"80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com> schreef in bericht
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> ST:8 was First Contact. The one with the Borg. The one where Kirk was
killed
> (Although, Not by a falling rock) was ST: 7 Generations. And, as for the
> Bird of Prey, the Enterprise-D's shields were not working, so the BOP was
> able to just sit there and fire away.

They could have just rotated the shield frequency (which should be standard
operating procedure after the Borg). Also, they fired exactly one torpedo.
If they'd just poured a lot of torpedoes into their shields they'd have
destroyed that BOP pretty quick.

Doomriser

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"C.S.Strowbridge" <csstro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Doomriser wrote:
> > C.S.Strowbridge" wrote:

> >>Woo hoo! I love Bond films.
> >
> > Yeah, I bet Bond 20 will be "pretty good."
>
> Oi! Are you mocking me?
>
> C.S.Strowbridge
>

No, I'm sure Bond 20 will be just a good as the twentieth installment of the
Trek franchise will be.

-=Doomriser


Kamakazie Sith

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"80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> And, lastly, to Kamakazie Sith, the obvious, yet true answer is NO. I have
> not.
>
> Thank you for your time.

I recommend you rent LOTR: The Fellowship of the Ring, when it comes out on
DVD. It is really very good and I'm sure you will enjoy it.

BTW you could have fooled me, LOTR is only the biggest trilogy to come out
since Star Wars.


Kamakazie Sith

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"Graeme Dice" <grd...@sk.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Like I said it's silly.....


Kamakazie Sith

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"Lord Sander" <impe...@celnews.net> wrote in message
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> "80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com> schreef in bericht
> news:wcNS8.16970$MIK....@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > ST:8 was First Contact. The one with the Borg. The one where Kirk was
> killed
> > (Although, Not by a falling rock) was ST: 7 Generations. And, as for the
> > Bird of Prey, the Enterprise-D's shields were not working, so the BOP
was
> > able to just sit there and fire away.
>
> They could have just rotated the shield frequency (which should be
standard
> operating procedure after the Borg). Also, they fired exactly one torpedo.
> If they'd just poured a lot of torpedoes into their shields they'd have
> destroyed that BOP pretty quick.
>

I completely agree.


Cmdrwilkens

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"Spyder" <mark.rusbridgeNOSP...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in
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> ..and then Dalton <r...@daltonator.net> said:
>
> > "Steve Garrett Jr." wrote:
> >>
> >> 80 Knight wrote:
> >>
> >> > Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up
> >> > and running. There is also a trailer available for download.
> >> >
> >> > Here is the site:
> >> >
> >> > http://nemesis.startrek.com/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > "We must make sure that history never forget's the name Enterprise."
> >> > Capt. Jean-Luc Picard - TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise"
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Oh man, that movie looks like it's going to kick MUCHO MUCHO ASS!!!!
> >>
> >
> > ...this is one week before Lord of the Rings. It's going down in flames.
> >
> > ...but I do have to say that this trailer looks pretty cool. Then again,
> > that's what a trailer is supposed to do, isn't it...
>
> Wing Commander had an awesome trailer.

Be fair, Wing Commander almost had an interesting plot and storyline...ST:N
won't even have that.

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Cmdrwilkens

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"Kamakazie Sith" <Ja...@NOSPAMccutah.com> wrote in message
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Even if it is an early rough draft (2nd or 3rd revision say) then they need
to do a serious rewrite to make it interesting.

Jason L. Miles

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On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:37:04 GMT, "Kamakazie Sith"
<Ja...@NOSPAMccutah.com> wrote:

>
>"80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com> wrote in message

>news:3DIS8.3924$2er...@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...


>> Cmdrwilkens <burn...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:afe8k7$de819$1...@ID-97732.news.dfncis.de...

>> > "80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com> wrote in message

>> > news:5ZwS8.44211$71t1....@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
>> > > Dalton <r...@daltonator.net> wrote in message
>> > > news:3D1A8F83...@daltonator.net...

>> > > > "Steve Garrett Jr." wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 80 Knight wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site
>is
>> > up
>> > > and
>> > > > > > running. There is also a trailer available for download.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Here is the site:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > http://nemesis.startrek.com/
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > "We must make sure that history never forget's the name
>> Enterprise."
>> > > > > > Capt. Jean-Luc Picard - TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise"
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Oh man, that movie looks like it's going to kick MUCHO MUCHO
>ASS!!!!
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > ...this is one week before Lord of the Rings. It's going down in
>> flames.
>> > > >
>> > > > ...but I do have to say that this trailer looks pretty cool. Then
>> again,
>> > > > that's what a trailer is supposed to do, isn't it...
>> > >

>> > > Never underestimate the power of the world famous Trekkies... ;-)
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > I think betting on it to gross twenty million domestic would be
>> > overestimating their abilities...trekkies are going to be about the only
>> > ones who care, everyone else will be shopping or waiting for Two Towers.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> What is "Two Towers"? Other than the abvious...A new movie or something?
>

>Have you been living in a cave?
>
No, he's been dodging tacticle anti trol devices (credit to whoever
made up the term.) He's been to busy doing that and wanking of
Janeways picture to see a real movie.

Jason L. Miles

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Jun 27, 2002, 8:30:58 PM6/27/02
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On 27 Jun 2002 11:59:08 GMT, Spyder
<mark.rusbridgeNOSP...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

>..and then Dalton <r...@daltonator.net> said:
>

>> "Steve Garrett Jr." wrote:
>>>
>>> 80 Knight wrote:
>>>
>>> > Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up
>>> > and running. There is also a trailer available for download.
>>> >
>>> > Here is the site:
>>> >
>>> > http://nemesis.startrek.com/
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > "We must make sure that history never forget's the name Enterprise."
>>> > Capt. Jean-Luc Picard - TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise"
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> Oh man, that movie looks like it's going to kick MUCHO MUCHO ASS!!!!
>>>
>>
>> ...this is one week before Lord of the Rings. It's going down in flames.
>>
>> ...but I do have to say that this trailer looks pretty cool. Then again,
>> that's what a trailer is supposed to do, isn't it...
>

>Wing Commander had an awesome trailer.

Actually, Ithought both of it's trailers were pretty good, but which
one did you like?

I probably would have gone to see it just because I was hoping that it
would follow the game better than it did, and that I loved the game.

Jason L. Miles

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On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:32:01 GMT, "Enigma" <xtre...@qqqq.qqqq> wrote:

>"Lord Sander" <impe...@celnews.net> wrote in message

>news:affsmi$d58nj$1...@ID-142672.news.dfncis.de...
>> "Kamakazie Sith" <Ja...@NOSPAMccutah.com> schreef in bericht
>> news:ARJS8.207250$6m5.1...@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net...


>> > > >> Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is
>up
>> > > >> and running. There is also a trailer available for download. Here
>is
>> > > >> the site: http://nemesis.startrek.com/ -- "We must make sure
>that
>> > > >> history never forget's the name Enterprise." Capt. Jean-Luc
>Picard -
>> > > >> TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise"
>> > > >
>> > > > Oh man, that movie looks like it's going to kick MUCHO MUCHO ASS!!!!
>> > >

>> > > You haven't read that leaked script, have you? It's going to be an
>> > > absolute piece of shit. But the trailer did look pretty badass.


>> >
>> > The leaked script for SW: EII has the Emperor hiring Subulba to take out
>> Obi
>> > Wan.
>>

>> TheForce.Net's Virtual Edition was spot on.
>>

>> > Don't put to much faith into this leaked script give the movie a
>> > chance.
>>

>> The leaked script of Nemesis said exactly what we see in the trailer, a
>new
>> brother of Data, a clone of Picard, and a nephew race of the Romulans, the
>> Remans. And I'd bet we'll see Troi and Riker getting married too in
>Nemesis.
>>
>Apparantly my sister saw the ST trailer on TV and according to her Picard
>mentioned that the problem was caused by his son, not a clone.
>

Didn't Generations state that he couldn't reproduce?

Jason L. Miles

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On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:05:19 -0400, "Doomriser" <doom....@3web.net>
wrote:

I honestly think Brosnans the best Bond since Connery, He doesn't
quite play Flemming's Bond. but it is a very good rendition of the
character.

Jason L. Miles

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On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:28:28 GMT, "80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com>
wrote:

>Doomriser <doom....@3web.net> wrote in message
>news:3d1b8...@news.cybersurf.net...
>> "80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com> wrote in message news:nIIS8.3965> >
>>
>> It's going to suck, but how badly? ST: 3? ST:8? ST:9? ST:5?
>>
>> >
>> > Well, Trek:3 sucked, so did Trek:5, but 8 was excelent, and 9 was good.
>> IMO
>> > of course.
>> >
>> >
>> ST:8??? You mean the one where Kirk was killed by a falling rock? The one
>> where the E-D was taken out by a 20-year old BOP? ST:9? The one that says
>> its okay for some white supremacists to live forever while the rest of the
>> galaxy dies from curable diseases?
>>
>
>I believe you have your Trek films numbers mixed up a bit...;-)
>
>ST:8 was First Contact. The one with the Borg. The one where Kirk was killed
>(Although, Not by a falling rock) was ST: 7 Generations. And, as for the
>Bird of Prey, the Enterprise-D's shields were not working, so the BOP was
>able to just sit there and fire away.

They weren't working because Starfleet and the rest of the ST galaxy
deliberatly puts an enormous hole in thier shields.

Dalton

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Spyder wrote:
>
> ..and then Dalton <r...@daltonator.net> said:
>
> > "Steve Garrett Jr." wrote:
> >>
> >> 80 Knight wrote:
> >>
> >> > Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up
> >> > and running. There is also a trailer available for download.
> >> >
> >> > Here is the site:
> >> >
> >> > http://nemesis.startrek.com/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > "We must make sure that history never forget's the name Enterprise."
> >> > Capt. Jean-Luc Picard - TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise"
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Oh man, that movie looks like it's going to kick MUCHO MUCHO ASS!!!!
> >>
> >
> > ...this is one week before Lord of the Rings. It's going down in flames.
> >
> > ...but I do have to say that this trailer looks pretty cool. Then again,
> > that's what a trailer is supposed to do, isn't it...
>
> Wing Commander had an awesome trailer.
>

My point exactly.

--
Rob "Roby" Dalton
http://daltonator.net

"Look," said Arthur, "would it save you a lot of time if I just gave up
and went mad now?" --Douglas Adams, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

Iceberg

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On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:23:33 GMT, "80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com>
wrote:

>Sir Nitram <nitramt...@aol.comAntiSpam> wrote in message

How can you call yourself a sci-fi/fantasy fan and still not know
about the Lord of the Rings???

-- Ice
"This day will always be remembered! How it's remembered is up to us!
Right here, right now! Let's make history!" - Vyse the Legend
Skies of Arcadia: Sega Dreamcast (11/4/2000), Nintendo GameCube (Q4
2002), Sony PlayStation 2 (Q1-Q2, 2003).

Kamakazie Sith

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"Cmdrwilkens" <burn...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Spyder" <mark.rusbridgeNOSP...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in
> message news:Xns923AF3FE...@130.133.1.4...
> > ..and then Dalton <r...@daltonator.net> said:
> >
> > > "Steve Garrett Jr." wrote:
> > >>
> > >> 80 Knight wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is
up
> > >> > and running. There is also a trailer available for download.
> > >> >
> > >> > Here is the site:
> > >> >
> > >> > http://nemesis.startrek.com/
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > "We must make sure that history never forget's the name
Enterprise."
> > >> > Capt. Jean-Luc Picard - TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise"
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> Oh man, that movie looks like it's going to kick MUCHO MUCHO ASS!!!!
> > >>
> > >
> > > ...this is one week before Lord of the Rings. It's going down in
flames.
> > >
> > > ...but I do have to say that this trailer looks pretty cool. Then
again,
> > > that's what a trailer is supposed to do, isn't it...
> >
> > Wing Commander had an awesome trailer.
>
>
>
> Be fair, Wing Commander almost had an interesting plot and
storyline...ST:N
> won't even have that.
>

Damn your harsh....are you still going to go see ST: N


Dalton

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Actually, no, the shields were up and at full strength. Lursa and B'etor
merely used the spy device installed in Geordi's visor (nice security
there guys) to beam back visuals of the current shield frequency ("He
must be the only engineer in Starfleet that doesn't GO TO
ENGINEERING!"). A dash of "recalibration" and the pithy little piece of
crap is able to take out Starfleet's flagship.

C.S.Strowbridge

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Doomriser wrote:
> "C.S.Strowbridge" wrote:

>>>>Woo hoo! I love Bond films.
>>>
>>>Yeah, I bet Bond 20 will be "pretty good."
>>
>>Oi! Are you mocking me?
>

> No, I'm sure Bond 20 will be just a good as the twentieth installment
> of the Trek franchise will be.

Don't make me hurt you!

Although comparing Star Trek vs. Bond popularity might be interesting.

C.S.Strowbridge

C.S.Strowbridge

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Jun 27, 2002, 9:00:18 PM6/27/02
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Jason L. Miles wrote:
> "Doomriser" wrote:
>>"C.S.Strowbridge" wrote:

>>>>>Woo hoo! I love Bond films.
>>>>
>>>>Yeah, I bet Bond 20 will be "pretty good."
>>>
>>>Oi! Are you mocking me?
>>

>>No, I'm sure Bond 20 will be just a good as the twentieth installment of the
>>Trek franchise will be.
>
> I honestly think Brosnans the best Bond since Connery, He doesn't
> quite play Flemming's Bond. but it is a very good rendition of the
> character.

Same here.

C.S.Strowbridge

Kamakazie Sith

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"Jason L. Miles" <seaqu...@cox.net> wrote in message
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No.


RayCav

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> Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up and
> running. There is also a trailer available for download.
>
> Here is the site:
>
> http://nemesis.startrek.com/

The damn fucking site keeps jacking up my computer

RayCav

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> "80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:hmvS8.43493$71t1....@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up and
> > running. There is also a trailer available for download.
> >
> > Here is the site:
> >
> > http://nemesis.startrek.com/
>
> Oh gosh. I guess the leaked script is accurate. Just introduce a completely
> new race of Remans to Trek and expect everyone to buy that they really
> existed in the Romulan Empire this entire time. Or the completely laughable
> idea of the enemy being a young Picard clone that we never knew about. I
> wonder if it's too late to hope that the movie doesn't suck?

Interestingly enough, I don't like the thought of vehicles in Star
Trek. Even more interestingly, the reason why is because it shows that
Trek people might show competence over tendencies to prefer "wizardry"
for once, which I think is a continuatily error. After all, everyone
is supposed to be stupid in the TNG/Post-TNG era:)

Sir Nitram

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>"Doomriser" <doom....@3web.net> wrote in message
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>> "Lord Sander" <impe...@celnews.net> wrote in message
>> news:afg19k$e4tv4$1...@ID-142672.news.dfncis.de...
>> > "Doomriser" <doom....@3web.net> schreef in bericht
>> > news:3d1b8...@news.cybersurf.net...

>> > > ST:8??? You mean the one where Kirk was killed by a falling rock? The
>> one
>> > > where the E-D was taken out by a 20-year old BOP?
>> >
>> > No, that was ST:7 :P
>> > ST:8 is First Contact
>> >
>> Oops. Yeah, ST:8 was entertaining. Though it had no reedeming intellectual
>> value.
>
>
>Does SW? Ya know SW didn't change my life, I wouldn't expect ST to either.
>It's entertainment!
>

Well, SW doesn't pretend to be high brow and intelligent. Of course, it also
tackles the rough issues of humanity, the rise and fall of a man, redemption,
temptation, and so forth.

That and it has exploding planets. You have to love exploding planets.
--
SirNitram
ASVS Small Gods Keeper and Amateur Genius

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Upright Christians pray for God to save others in need.

"And they say that a hero can save us, I'm not gonna stand here to wait..."
-Hero

Black Omega

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Even numbered movies "good" - ST6 sucked to no in.
"The Undiscovered Country" indeed!

ST8 sucked as well. "Insurrection" at Paramount, me thinks.

Let's hope that Paramount takes a hint and stops making ST movies until they
can get better script writers.

P.S. I AM a Star Trek FAN - I'm just NOT a SUCKER!


Sir Nitram

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>ST8 sucked as well. "Insurrection" at Paramount, me thinks.
>

ST8 was First Contact, ST9 was Insurrection.

Dalton

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Jun 28, 2002, 12:07:27 AM6/28/02
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Black Omega wrote:
>
> Even numbered movies "good" - ST6 sucked to no in.
> "The Undiscovered Country" indeed!

2 and 6 are my favorites.

> ST8 sucked as well. "Insurrection" at Paramount, me thinks.

8 was alright. 7 wasn't bad. 9 blew.

> Let's hope that Paramount takes a hint and stops making ST movies until they
> can get better script writers.
>
> P.S. I AM a Star Trek FAN - I'm just NOT a SUCKER!

Black Omega

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Jun 28, 2002, 12:13:38 AM6/28/02
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Oops!

Sorry about that!
ST8 was the even more lousy ST:First Contact lens with the moronic concept
of the "Borg Queen" and even stupider Borg "drones."
Give me a break!

That movie made "Insurrection" look like "Gone With The Wind."


Cmdrwilkens

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"Kamakazie Sith" <Ja...@NOSPAMccutah.com> wrote in message
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Probably, because it'll be free for me and I rarely pass up free.

Cmdrwilkens

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"Dalton" <r...@daltonator.net> wrote in message
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> Spyder wrote:
> >
> > ..and then Dalton <r...@daltonator.net> said:
> >
> > > "Steve Garrett Jr." wrote:
> > >>
> > >> 80 Knight wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is
up
> > >> > and running. There is also a trailer available for download.
> > >> >
> > >> > Here is the site:
> > >> >
> > >> > http://nemesis.startrek.com/
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > "We must make sure that history never forget's the name
Enterprise."
> > >> > Capt. Jean-Luc Picard - TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise"
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> Oh man, that movie looks like it's going to kick MUCHO MUCHO ASS!!!!
> > >>
> > >
> > > ...this is one week before Lord of the Rings. It's going down in
flames.
> > >
> > > ...but I do have to say that this trailer looks pretty cool. Then
again,
> > > that's what a trailer is supposed to do, isn't it...
> >
> > Wing Commander had an awesome trailer.
> >
>
> My point exactly.
>

Are you trying to say that Freddy "I get to bone Sarah Michelle Gellar"
Prinz wasn't just awesome in that movie?

Dalton

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Jun 28, 2002, 12:35:26 AM6/28/02
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Never saw it. Heard it stunk tho.

80 Knight

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Iceberg <ice...@crius.net> wrote in message
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Everyone I have spoken too, classifies LOTR as "Fantasy", and I do not like
fantasy. Just plain 'ol Sci-Fi. However, I do know about the first LOTR,
just not about the others.

80 Knight

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Jun 28, 2002, 12:36:49 AM6/28/02
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Kamakazie Sith <Ja...@NOSPAMccutah.com> wrote in message
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>
> "80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:V7NS8.5110$2er....@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
>
> > And, lastly, to Kamakazie Sith, the obvious, yet true answer is NO. I
have
> > not.
> >
> > Thank you for your time.
>
> I recommend you rent LOTR: The Fellowship of the Ring, when it comes out
on
> DVD. It is really very good and I'm sure you will enjoy it.

Thanks. I will try to. Do you know when it will be available on DVD?

> BTW you could have fooled me, LOTR is only the biggest trilogy to come out
> since Star Wars.
>

This I did not know. I only knew of the first movie.

Once again, thanks for the info.

80 Knight

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Jun 28, 2002, 12:44:43 AM6/28/02
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Lord Sander <impe...@celnews.net> wrote in message
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> "80 Knight" <80kn...@rogers.com> schreef in bericht
> news:wcNS8.16970$MIK....@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > ST:8 was First Contact. The one with the Borg. The one where Kirk was
> killed

> > (Although, Not by a falling rock) was ST: 7 Generations. And, as for the
> > Bird of Prey, the Enterprise-D's shields were not working, so the BOP
was
> > able to just sit there and fire away.
>
> They could have just rotated the shield frequency (which should be
standard
> operating procedure after the Borg). Also, they fired exactly one torpedo.
> If they'd just poured a lot of torpedoes into their shields they'd have
> destroyed that BOP pretty quick.

I agree totally about the rotating the shield frequency's. This was done on
Voyager many times. But, as for the torpeadoes, Riker specifficlly said to
Worf, to fire a Full spread of torpeadoes. It may have looked like only one,
but Riker ordered a full spread. Weather it was or not, I do not know. I
think Paramount just wanted to save money by re-using stock footage from
Trek:6 TUC.

And, yes, a few torpeados could have destroyed the BOP, but they had to make
Brent Spiner's charactor look good...;-)

80 Knight

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Black Omega <bl...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> Oops!
>
> Sorry about that!
> ST8 was the even more lousy ST:First Contact lens with the moronic concept
> of the "Borg Queen" and even stupider Borg "drones."
> Give me a break!

Though, I do respect your opinion, I do not however, agree with it. The Borg
are a hive mind. It is only logical that they have a "Queen". IMHO anyways.

> That movie made "Insurrection" look like "Gone With The Wind."

You liked "Insurection" better than "First Contact"??? Now, this I have
never heard of. And I participate on many Trek groups. I have spoken to no
one who liked Trek:9 better than Trek:8. There is that 'ol "Odd Trek films
suck, even trek film's rock" saying going around...;-)

Not that "Insurection" was bad, I just liked "First Contact" much more.

Beowulf

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Jun 28, 2002, 1:18:46 AM6/28/02
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Steve Garrett Jr. wrote:

> 80 Knight wrote:
>
>> Just wanted to let everyone know that the official Nemisis site is up
>> and running. There is also a trailer available for download.
>>
>> Here is the site:
>>
>> http://nemesis.startrek.com/
>>
>>
>>

>> --
>> "We must make sure that history never forget's the name Enterprise."
>> Capt. Jean-Luc Picard - TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise"
>>
>>
>>
>

> Oh man, that movie looks like it's going to suck MUCHO MUCHO ASS!!!!
>

--
Beowulf

Graeme Dice

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Jun 28, 2002, 1:53:11 AM6/28/02
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80 Knight wrote:
>
> Black Omega <bl...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:SnRS8.898$EV6.14...@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...

<snip>

> > That movie made "Insurrection" look like "Gone With The Wind."
>
> You liked "Insurection" better than "First Contact"??? Now, this I have
> never heard of. And I participate on many Trek groups. I have spoken to no
> one who liked Trek:9 better than Trek:8. There is that 'ol "Odd Trek films
> suck, even trek film's rock" saying going around...;-)
>
> Not that "Insurection" was bad, I just liked "First Contact" much more.

Insurrection was forgettable enough that my dad didn't remember watching
it six months after we saw it in the theatre, and he goes to about one
movie every one and a half years. On the other hand, if I mention
floating purple blood he immediately knows that I am referring to ST:6.

--
The bear and Carl lived together in the cave for several
years until, one day, the true savagery of Nature being
unleashed, Carl killed and ate him.
-- The Prehistory of The Far Side / Gary Larson

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