VueScan 7.5.12 Released
Bart van der Wolf
What's new in version 7.5.12
Added support for LM983X scanners:
Canon N650U, D660U, N670U, N1220U, D120U, N1240U
Epson 1250
HP 2100C, 2200C
Umax 3400
BearPaw 1200, 2400
Genius (6 different USB models)
Plustek (8 different USB models)
Bart
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The D660U support is a joke. It's supported in that it makes funny
noises and the film backlight comes on, but it no workie (Mac OS X).
I kicked up the software in Classic that Canon ships and that works
fine, so the scanner is alive and well, but VueScan just makes it make
scary high-pitched noises from the motor that scare the crap out of me
(yes, it's unlocked).
I'm willing to test, but as-is it should not advertise this works.
Ralf R. Radermacher
Plustek...???
There he goes...
There were times when he'd refuse to support the cheapest trash. Then
again, given the quantities sold and the software included they might
quickly turn into his largest customer group.
One is left wondering if this is good news for the rest of us.
Ralf
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> Plustek...???
>
> There he goes...
>
> There were times when he'd refuse to support the cheapest trash. Then
> again, given the quantities sold and the software included they might
> quickly turn into his largest customer group.
>
> One is left wondering if this is good news for the rest of us.
>
> Ralf
It would seem to me that all of these have the same chip and it's
coincidence that that model is now supported. I beleive he was trying
to get the Canon scanners up, which are a decent grade over Plustek.
However, even that was just a good first try.
Ed Hamrick
> There were times when he'd refuse to support the cheapest trash. Then
> again, given the quantities sold and the software included they might
> quickly turn into his largest customer group.
The LM983X chip is quite interesting. It's possible to produce
excellent scans with this chip. The scans I've seen from some
of these scanners are as good as (or better than) scans produced
by even the most expensive flatbeds.
It's really hard programming this chip, and much of the vendor
software I've traced (especially the Canon software) make some
mistakes that result in lower quality images (especially in the
dark areas of scans).
If the calibration is done well, the results can be outstanding.
I even figured out how to use the chip to do single-pass
multi-scanning, although the quality is already so good that
there's no real need for it (this is the "Device|Number of samples"
option).
> One is left wondering if this is good news for the rest of us.
I'd recommend that anyone doing reflective scans just sell their
old flatbeds on ebay.com and buy a Canon N670U or N1240U.
Regards,
Ed Hamrick
Ed Hamrick
> The D660U support is a joke. It's supported in that it makes funny
> noises and the film backlight comes on, but it no workie (Mac OS X).
The N1240U had the same problem. I bought one this morning, traced
the commands that Canon uses, and found that their software sets the
motor duty cycle to 50% of what I was using. I've updated this in
all the Canon LM983X scanners and released it in VueScan 7.5.13.
You can download it from:
http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html
Regards,
Ed Hamrick
Ed Hamrick
> I hoped you were lurking. I don't really care if you respond to any
> posts in here but it is nice to know that you have cause to read
> them at least some of the time.
Every now and then I use groups.google.com to search on the
VueScan keyword (sorting in order of date). This catches
postings in all newsgroups, and even though I don't have
time to respond to these postings, it's a good way to get
a lot of feedback.
Regards,
Ed Hamrick
Uni
Hello Ed,
From the scans I've achieved with my N670U and seeing scans produced
with a N1240U, I was no less than impressed with them.
I'm really glad you added support for these two scanners. Thank you very
much. I am impressed!
I do have a couple questions, and I hope no one minds me asking them
here.
Is there any possibility that you could add more choices of scanning
resolutions, or even make it continuous, where you type in the value? I
only ask this because sometimes fine tuning the resolutions reduces or
removes a moiré' pattern, from my experience.
Also, can Vuescan be programmed to be launched within a graphics
application, such like the original Canon ScanGear does? That is, have
the graphics application Acquire a image via Vuescan? I assume this may
require manipulating the Windows registry.
Again, thank you, Ed!
Sincerely,
John/Uni
>
> Regards,
> Ed Hamrick
Ed Hamrick
> Is there any possibility that you could add more choices of scanning
> resolutions, or even make it continuous, where you type in the value? I
> only ask this because sometimes fine tuning the resolutions reduces or
> removes a moiré' pattern, from my experience.
It turns out that the resolution divisors in the LM983X chip
limit the resolutions that can be scanned. I could always
do rescaling in software, but this can be done just as easily
in a printer driver or in a graphics program.
> Also, can Vuescan be programmed to be launched within a graphics
> application, such like the original Canon ScanGear does? That is, have
> the graphics application Acquire a image via Vuescan? I assume this may
> require manipulating the Windows registry.
Unfortunately, I haven't written the TWAIN driver yet. I have
a few other things to do first, so it probably won't be for
another month or so.
Regards,
Ed Hamrick
Uni
Ed Hamrick wrote:
>
> "Uni" <plg...@usa.net> wrote:
> > Is there any possibility that you could add more choices of scanning
> > resolutions, or even make it continuous, where you type in the value? I
> > only ask this because sometimes fine tuning the resolutions reduces or
> > removes a moiré' pattern, from my experience.
>
> It turns out that the resolution divisors in the LM983X chip
> limit the resolutions that can be scanned. I could always
> do rescaling in software, but this can be done just as easily
> in a printer driver or in a graphics program.
Unfortunately, that wouldn't help remove a hatch pattern from a scan.
For the first time, I had to select 400 DPI (typically 300 DPI is fine)
from the Canon ScanGear to avoid this pattern. Just having 400 DPI
available would be a blessing.
>
> > Also, can Vuescan be programmed to be launched within a graphics
> > application, such like the original Canon ScanGear does? That is, have
> > the graphics application Acquire a image via Vuescan? I assume this may
> > require manipulating the Windows registry.
>
> Unfortunately, I haven't written the TWAIN driver yet. I have
> a few other things to do first, so it probably won't be for
> another month or so.
No rush. I was just asking. Thank you.
You're one heck of a one man band programmer :)
John
>
> Regards,
> Ed Hamrick
Margaret Wilson
VueScan 7.5.11 and my Acer 2720S. I scanned ~140 slides in an afternoon
over the weekend and have been very pleased with the results. That VueScan
sure is a great program, very reasonably priced, too. Thank you Ed! :-)
Regards,
Margaret
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Ed Hamrick
> Unfortunately, that wouldn't help remove a hatch pattern from a scan.
The trick to removing the moire pattern is to scan at a higher
resolution (600 or 1200 dpi) and then use the size reduction
feature for the JPEG or TIFF file (in the Files tab).
I'm going to make this automatic in VueScan 7.6, which I hope
to have out next week.
Regards,
Ed Hamrick
Uni
Whatever you wish to add you have my blessing.
One last question, then I'll step out of this thread.
May I ask you what programming language you use? I always viewed you as
being a assembler programmer, since your applications are small, compact
and powerful. However, after looking in the Vuescan .ini file, and
seeing double slashes in a file path, it looks like you may be using
some version of C.
Thanks!
Kind regards,
John
>
> Regards,
> Ed Hamrick
Ed Hamrick
> May I ask you what programming language you use? I always viewed you as
> being a assembler programmer, since your applications are small, compact
> and powerful. However, after looking in the Vuescan .ini file, and
> seeing double slashes in a file path, it looks like you may be using
> some version of C.
I use C++ - it's the only practical way to use the same source
code to build versions of VueScan for Windows, Mac OS 8/9,
Mac OS X and Linux. I use 4 different C++ compilers to do all
the builds (Borland C++, CodeWarrior, gcc on Mac OS X
and gcc on Linux).
Regards,
Ed Hamrick
Jon Bell
Bart van der Wolf <bvd...@nospam.nl> wrote:
>
>Added support for LM983X scanners:
>Canon N650U, D660U, N670U, N1220U, D120U, N1240U
Now, *that's* interesting. I've been eyeing those Canons because of their
small profile which would make it easy for me to store one when not in
use (just turn it sidewise and tuck it in between my Nikon film scanner
and the monitor stand next to it).
But the box warns that the computer must have built-in USB, and my Mac G3
has an add-on USB card. My Nikon had the same problem with the original
NikonScan software, but VueScan recognizes the Nikon via the USB card just
fine. If it can recognize the Canons, too, I'll be seriously interested
in getting one.
--
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Dept. of Physics and Computer Science Clinton, South Carolina USA
Ed Hamrick
> But the box warns that the computer must have built-in USB, and my Mac G3
> has an add-on USB card. My Nikon had the same problem with the original
> NikonScan software, but VueScan recognizes the Nikon via the USB card just
> fine. If it can recognize the Canons, too, I'll be seriously interested
> in getting one.
I haven't tested it myself, but I'm quite sure the Canon scanners
will work fine with an add-on USB card (especially since the Nikon
works with this card).
Regards,
Ed Hamrick
Ralf R. Radermacher
> I'd recommend that anyone doing reflective scans just sell their
> old flatbeds on ebay.com and buy a Canon N670U or N1240U.
Oh, sure....
That was exactly my concern in the initial message. So, how about those
of us who're using such "old flatbeds" as the Epson 1640 for negative
scanning? Or worse such exotic stuff as those real old-fashioned film
scanners?
Will we become an insignificant minority drowned out by an army of
people using modern Plustek scanners and similar fine equipment?
Ed Hamrick
>
> > I'd recommend that anyone doing reflective scans just sell their
> > old flatbeds on ebay.com and buy a Canon N670U or N1240U.
>
> Oh, sure....
>
> That was exactly my concern in the initial message. So, how about those
> of us who're using such "old flatbeds" as the Epson 1640 for negative
> scanning? Or worse such exotic stuff as those real old-fashioned film
> scanners?
The Canon LED scanners aren't useful for transparent media.
The Epson 1250 Photo works quite nicely with transparent media,
albeit at only 1200 dpi. It also does single-pass multi-scanning
with VueScan. However, the maximum scan area is fairly small
(about 50x50 mm).
Most of the code in VueScan is scanner independant, and every
improvement I make to the scanner independant code benefits all
supported scanners.
> Will we become an insignificant minority drowned out by an army of
> people using modern Plustek scanners and similar fine equipment?
Plustek is sold in tiny volumes worldwide, especially compared
to the Epson 1250 and the Canon LED scanners. The Epson and
Canon LED scanners are very well engineered.
Regards,
Ed Hamrick
Owen P. Evans
bucks and now you want a pound of flesh from Ed. Damn, not only are you a
boring photographer (as per your website) but also a cheapskate that wants
backwards compatibility to the 1980's. It's time for a reality check Ralf;
get a better scanner and be thankful that you are even getting half as much
from VueScan. And yes you are the insignificant minority; a whiner.
Owen
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Ralf R. Radermacher
> Damn, not only are you a
> boring photographer (as per your website)
Boring? Me? Gee, we both know better, don't we?
One more word and I'll publicly post a link to a particularly pathetic
attempt at photography which I've just found on the net.
Just in case you've forgotten about it:
http://www.nikonlist.com/light/pages/13.htm
What a laugh!
No composition to speak of, failed in all respects, and one of the most
boring little pics this world has ever seen. Would you really want
everybody on the scanner group to see it?
Ralf R. Radermacher
> Boring? Me? Gee, we both know better, don't we?
Sorry folks. This was meant to be sent as an email. Wanted to keep it
out of this group, this time, and honestly didn't want to embarrass Owen
in public.
My sincere apologies.
Owen P. Evans
Go ahead Ralf; embarrass me. I have nothing to hide. You have kill filed me
now, and I you; so if you feel like being the contentious person you usually
are; go ahead. I have made some mistakes in my time of over 5 years on the
net and I have apologized when necessary. In this case, I owe no one an
apology. Your photography is boring and you are still a cheapskate and a
whiner.
To the rest of the group, I am sorry but I can't communicate with this
individual due to kill files and he keeps posting herein.
Hopefully this is the last of it.
Owen
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And the minute I get there 7.5.14 is there and has removed my scanner.
=) I can wait, then...
Ed Hamrick
> And the minute I get there 7.5.14 is there and has removed my scanner.
> =) I can wait, then...
All I need to add support for the D660 is a register dump.
There are instructions for doing this on the bottom of:
Tim
Sorry to use this thread to contact you.
Two things,
1)Thanks for VueScan, it supports SCSi scanners such as the FilmScan
200 that we (EPSON) do not support under WIA. We are directing our
customers to your web site so they can continue to use the older
scanners under the more modern operating systems. Hope you approve.
2)Problem with the EPSON Twain drivers for the Perfection
1250/1650/2450 Photo.
If you use the 'automatic thumbnail preview' when scanning transparent
material the twain resizes the image on the preview screen. Instead of
using the zoom option to resize, the twain is increasing the SCALING
option in proportion to the increased size of the image. So the EPSON
Perfection 1250 is giving a thumbnail preview of a 35mm slide and
increasing the scaling to 470%+ !!!! At 1200dpi this produces a file
size of around 400MB. No wonder the 1650 takes so long to scan 4
negatives!
You can easily readjust the scaling to 100%, and work around the
problem.
Briefly, any ideas where the programmers have made their mistake?
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You forgot I'm in Mac OS X. Even if that's a command-line util for X
I can do it, but I don't have a functioning PC around here.
Godfrey DiGiorgi
could also use a similar utility for Mac OS X to get you a register dump.
Godfrey
In article <4a59e85a.02040...@posting.google.com>,
Ed Hamrick
> Is this the same series hardware in the Canon N656U scanner? If so, I
> could also use a similar utility for Mac OS X to get you a register dump.
The D660 is slightly different - it uses a cold cathode fluorescent
lamp, while the N-series scanners use LED lights.
The stepper motor is probably also programmed slightly differently.
All this kind of data is in the register dump (that's what
the problem usually is - I need to set a register that
controls the motor duty cycle, and if set to low or too
high, the motor buzzes and doesn't step).
Regards,
Ed Hamrick
Ed Hamrick
> 200 that we (EPSON) do not support under WIA. We are directing our
> customers to your web site so they can continue to use the older
> scanners under the more modern operating systems. Hope you approve.
No problem.
> 2)Problem with the EPSON Twain drivers for the Perfection
> 1250/1650/2450 Photo.
> If you use the 'automatic thumbnail preview' when scanning transparent
> material the twain resizes the image on the preview screen. Instead of
> using the zoom option to resize, the twain is increasing the SCALING
> option in proportion to the increased size of the image. So the EPSON
> Perfection 1250 is giving a thumbnail preview of a 35mm slide and
> increasing the scaling to 470%+ !!!! At 1200dpi this produces a file
> size of around 400MB. No wonder the 1650 takes so long to scan 4
> negatives!
> You can easily readjust the scaling to 100%, and work around the
> problem.
> Briefly, any ideas where the programmers have made their mistake?
It's probably just something they didn't think of. Just ask them
to fix it - it doesn't sound complicated.
Regards,
Ed Hamrick
Uni
Ed, a minor problem with this version...
With the Canon ScanGear (N670U scanner), I could hit "Scan", while
waiting for the scanner to return to home position, after doing a
Preview, then it would do the scan. I accidentally tried this with
Vuescan, and it caused a loud grinding noise, such like the scanner was
trying to do two operations at once, that is, scan and return to home
position.
John/Uni
Godfrey DiGiorgi
Well, I'd be delighted to send you a register dump of the N656U but I need
a utility app that runs under Mac OS X, not Windows, to get it for you.
Any chance of that?
Godfrey
In article <a8l424$mh0$1...@suaar1ab.prod.compuserve.com>, "Ed Hamrick"
Jon Bell
Ed Hamrick <use...@hamrick.com> wrote:
>"Jon Bell" <jtb...@presby.edu> wrote:
[about the CanoScan N1240U et al.]
>> But the box warns that the computer must have built-in USB, and my Mac G3
>> has an add-on USB card. My Nikon had the same problem with the original
>> NikonScan software, but VueScan recognizes the Nikon via the USB card just
>> fine. If it can recognize the Canons, too, I'll be seriously interested
>> in getting one.
>
>I haven't tested it myself, but I'm quite sure the Canon scanners
>will work fine with an add-on USB card (especially since the Nikon
>works with this card).
I bought an N1240U today and it does work with VueScan 7.5.15 under my
setup. Haven't tried the software that came with the scanner yet,
although I did install it. My first few scans do look good, especially
considering that I haven't done much fiddling with the settings yet.
The only problem I've encountered so far is that when I try to scan an
image as type "Magazine" to get the de-screening, it doesn't seem to want
to scan at anything but 75 dpi, regardless of the scan resolution
settings. But if I set the image type to "Photo," scan at 300 dpi, apply
some blur in Photoshop, resample down to 150 dpi, and finally apply some
unsharp mask, the result looks fine to me. (This is for Web display at
about 2x magnification on most monitors.)
Now I'm debating whether to replace my two-port USB card with a four-port
one so I can keep both scanners and my printer plugged in.
Ed Hamrick
> The only problem I've encountered so far is that when I try to scan an
> image as type "Magazine" to get the de-screening, it doesn't seem to want
> to scan at anything but 75 dpi, regardless of the scan resolution
> settings.
It actually scans at 300 dpi internally and then reduces to 75 dpi.
> But if I set the image type to "Photo," scan at 300 dpi, apply
> some blur in Photoshop, resample down to 150 dpi, and finally apply some
> unsharp mask, the result looks fine to me.
This results in basically the same image as scanning at 300 dpi,
resampling to 75 dpi and then resampling back to 150 dpi.
Magazine images just don't have more information than about
75 dpi.
Regards,
Ed Hamrick
Ed Hamrick
> Interesting. Such varieties in design.
>
> Well, I'd be delighted to send you a register dump of the N656U but I need
> a utility app that runs under Mac OS X, not Windows, to get it for you.
> Any chance of that?
I compiled the register dump utility for Mac OS X, and it can
be downloaded from:
http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html
I already own an N656U - it's the D646U and D660U I need dumps for.
Regards,
Ed Hamrick
Ed Hamrick
> With the Canon ScanGear (N670U scanner), I could hit "Scan", while
> waiting for the scanner to return to home position, after doing a
> Preview, then it would do the scan. I accidentally tried this with
> Vuescan, and it caused a loud grinding noise, such like the scanner was
> trying to do two operations at once, that is, scan and return to home
> position.
It's just the motor stopping suddenly when VueScan tells the
scanner it want to do something.
Patient: Doctor, it hurts when I do that.
Doctor: Don't do that.
Regards,
Ed Hamrick
Uni
Ed Hamrick wrote:
>
> "Uni" <plg...@usa.net> wrote:
>
> > With the Canon ScanGear (N670U scanner), I could hit "Scan", while
> > waiting for the scanner to return to home position, after doing a
> > Preview, then it would do the scan. I accidentally tried this with
> > Vuescan, and it caused a loud grinding noise, such like the scanner was
> > trying to do two operations at once, that is, scan and return to home
> > position.
>
> It's just the motor stopping suddenly when VueScan tells the
> scanner it want to do something.
Not to argue with you, Ed, but when a motor stops, it become silent. The
noise I heard sounded damaging to my Canon scanner. I would think you'd
have the programming ability to disable the Scan button until the
Preview is totally completed.
Regards,
John
Ed Hamrick
> Not to argue with you, Ed, but when a motor stops, it become silent.
The scan head has inertia when moving at about 1/2 inch per second.
> The
> noise I heard sounded damaging to my Canon scanner.
I've had my Canon scanners make all sorts of horrible noises
when I've made other programming errors, and they all still work
fine.
> I would think you'd
> have the programming ability to disable the Scan button until the
> Preview is totally completed.
All things are possible in software, but I prioritize what
I fix based on how many people are affected, how serious
the problem is, how much work it is to fix and whether there's
a simple workaround.
Regards,
Ed Hamrick