Underrated and Overrated Albums
Joey Bishop 36
Sure, the production was superb, the beats were innovative and still hold up to
this day, however lyrically this album was standard gangsta nursery rhymes. On
the other hand The Chronic 2001 was far superior to the original with even more
innovative production and phat beats, as well as improved lyricism,
songwriting, and subject matter. Therefore I think that when The Chronic is
considered by so called experts to be better than The Chronic 2001 that's an
example of underrated and overrated albums.
Now I wanna move on to Nas. Of course, his first album Illmatic was his best.
I don't even have to go into what makes that a classic album. However I feel
that his follow-up to Illmatic, It Was Written, was underrated because of the
extemely high expectations that Illmatic had set in people's minds. Granted,
It Was Written doesn't equal Illmatic but in its' own right is a very good
album with some great songs on it. Songs like I Gave You Power were very
original and groundbreaking with insightful lyrics. Now on the other hand Nas'
new album Stillmatic is also a very good album, however I feel that It Was
Written is alot better than Stillmatic. I rank Nas' top three albums as:
1. Illmatic
2. It Was Written
3. Stillmatic
Another underrated album was Devil's Night by D-12. Featuring incredible
production by The Doc himself, as well as The Bass Brothers, and Eminem and
Denaun, I can honestly can say there wasn't one beat I wasn't noddin' my head
to on this joint. Lyrically it was some true acid rap shit but with more
advanced lyricism than usually is displayed in that style. I liked the themes
of the songs, they were dark and moody but also exciting and entertaining.
Maybe people were expecting another Marshall Mathers LP but this was a group
effort and was original. I enjoy listening to the lyrics of Slim Shady, Proof,
Bizarre, and Kuniva, however Kon Artis and Swifty are usually just standard
lyricists who only come through with a dope verse occasionally. But every
group has its weak points and I think the strengths more than make up for it.
BTW, I know that lyrically Bizarre isn't the greatest but he's got an ill
style, voice, and psychotic subject matter. Songs like Fight Music, Purple
Pills, American Psycho, Aint Nuttin But Music, etc were ill as fuck and some of
the best songs of 2001.
''I'm usin' rubbers so they won't trace the semen
The black demon got you little hookers screamin'
Cuz you know I love it young, fresh, and green
With no hair in between, know what I mean?''
Biggie Smalls from ''Dead Wrong''.
Locco
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>As far as overrated albums go I should mention The Chronic by Dr. Dre.
>Sure, the production was superb, the beats were innovative and still hold
up to
>this day, however lyrically this album was standard gangsta nursery rhymes.
On
>the other hand The Chronic 2001 was far superior to the original with even
more
>innovative production and phat beats, as well as improved lyricism,
>songwriting, and subject matter. Therefore I think that when The Chronic
is
>considered by so called experts to be better than The Chronic 2001 that's
an
>example of underrated and overrated albums.
I wholeheartedly disagree with the theory put forward by the one expressing
his online self as Joey Bishop. In expanding my above denunciation of that
theory, I would point out that I do agree with the statement made regarding
the superb 'beats' on Tha Chronic. Furthermore, the 'beats' on Chronic 2001
were not as mindblowing as the original Chronic's 'beats' were at the time
of publication. As I recollect, upon first experiencing the production
quality of the original compositions, I was amazed at their ability to
enmesh themselves in my subconscious, forever engraved in my psyche. The
effect of that engraving has left me somewhat perplexed, as I refute the
professional opnion of the so called, 'gangsta macks', that the planet
revolves around 'guns, bitches, hoes' and such. In expediating the threat
posed, I would like to point out that the consternation of connoiseurs such
as Joey Bishop to acknowledge the successful, vigorous attempts of the
forefathers of his 'sick, twisted' style to promote it en masse to the
public. Shame, Joey, shame...
>Now I wanna move on to Nas. Of course, his first album Illmatic was his
best.
>I don't even have to go into what makes that a classic album. However I
feel
>that his follow-up to Illmatic, It Was Written, was underrated because of
the
>extemely high expectations that Illmatic had set in people's minds.
Granted,
>It Was Written doesn't equal Illmatic but in its' own right is a very good
>album with some great songs on it. Songs like I Gave You Power were very
>original and groundbreaking with insightful lyrics. Now on the other hand
Nas'
>new album Stillmatic is also a very good album, however I feel that It Was
>Written is alot better than Stillmatic. I rank Nas' top three albums as:
>1. Illmatic
>2. It Was Written
>3. Stillmatic
The compact disc entitled 'Illmatic' is the only decent product of the
Nasfactory in my humble opinion. Every effort he has made since its release
has been a shambles, a mockery of hip hop, the speck in the eye of thine
brother, a waste of my precious time. (and AttL - note the correct usage of
its)
>Another underrated album was Devil's Night by D-12. Featuring incredible
>production by The Doc himself, as well as The Bass Brothers, and Eminem and
>Denaun, I can honestly can say there wasn't one beat I wasn't noddin' my
head
>to on this joint. Lyrically it was some true acid rap shit but with more
>advanced lyricism than usually is displayed in that style. I liked the
themes
>of the songs, they were dark and moody but also exciting and entertaining.
>Maybe people were expecting another Marshall Mathers LP but this was a
group
>effort and was original. I enjoy listening to the lyrics of Slim Shady,
Proof,
>Bizarre, and Kuniva, however Kon Artis and Swifty are usually just standard
>lyricists who only come through with a dope verse occasionally. But every
>group has its weak points and I think the strengths more than make up for
it.
>BTW, I know that lyrically Bizarre isn't the greatest but he's got an ill
>style, voice, and psychotic subject matter. Songs like Fight Music, Purple
>Pills, American Psycho, Aint Nuttin But Music, etc were ill as fuck and
some of
>the best songs of 2001.
Hahahahaha... oh really i should learn to control this sense of humour of
mine, but I just cannot help it. Oh dear, here I go again...
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my... Oh my... Oh how I wish I could say something intellectually
appealing.. Oh hahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA... Are any of you gentlemen in
possession of a Kleenex?
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no gangsta complacency, they hadn't had that hip hop innocence tarnished and
weren't talking about how big they were or how much money they made.
It Was Written was wack. Like the above opinion, it's because he lost his
hip hop innocence that the album became wack. Illmatic was SO real, SO
simple, and It Was Written was just another album by just another average
East Coast MC.
And as for Devil's Night, I don't think so. Wack production for the most
part, with totally wack, talentless lyrics by Kuniva, Bizarre, Kon Artis &
Swifty. Em & Proof couldn't save the album either, and even those two
coasted big time on the mic. No originality, not much effort put in for
artists of that caliber, horrible album.
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A to the L
Chronic - classic - set a trend and a blueprint that is still being
followed to this day... lyrically you're right, it aint saying that
much...
but neither is
Chronic 2001 - nice beats, but overall leaves a feeling that something
is missing. The second half of the album falls away quite badly too.
This is not touching the original.
Nas - It Was Written... has its high spots and definite gems, but
leading with that wack If I Ruled The World single killed a lot of
interest... in my opinion though it was slightly under rated...
D12 - Devils Night - same as Chronic 2001... a half hearted attempt,
featuring a bored Em trying to support his lesser crew members...
Purple Pills is easily one of the WORST songs of ANY genre I have ever
had the displeasure of hearing...
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Matthias Jost
> Sure, the production was superb, the beats were innovative and still hold
up to
> this day, however lyrically this album was standard gangsta nursery
rhymes. On
> the other hand The Chronic 2001 was far superior to the original with even
more
> innovative production and phat beats, as well as improved lyricism,
> songwriting, and subject matter. Therefore I think that when The Chronic
is
> considered by so called experts to be better than The Chronic 2001 that's
an
> example of underrated and overrated albums.
Let's concentrate on the lyrics. There are 8 years or more between those two
albums, I don't think you really can compare now and then. Of course the
lyrics were a lot simpler back then, but I usually judge rap tracks by how
well
beats and rhymes go together. In that aspect the original "Chronic" comes
off way more convincing than Dre trying his best to execute Eminem-penned
lyrics (I'm simplifying here). Don't get me wrong, he does it better than
most
so-called "MC's" would, but there's really a limit to making an accomplished
rapper out of Dre. But he still should have done more of the rapping
himself,
because after "The Next Episode" the album just crumbles and is only saved
by the last two cuts.
And as far as 'songwriting', there's just as many 'songs' that deserve that
tag
on the original as on the successor.
Not to mention all the other stuff, the 'mystique' behind "The Chronic":
The hype surrounding Snoop, getting back at Eazy-E, Luke and Tim Dog,
Dre's departure from N.W.A, DOC's accident, all those new faces,
the LA rebellion/riots, Dre and DOC sharing their knowledge with a couple
of no-names and producing a hip-hop classic off the bat, etc.
"The Chronic" is a historical monument, 2001 is just a hugely successful
and well executed comeback album yet. Shit, I don't even want to play the
one off against the other, 2001 is a monster of a rap album.
Matt
Borg166
> 1. Illmatic
> 2. It Was Written
> 3. Stillmatic
More like...
1. Illmatic
2. I Am (underrated!)
3. Stillmatic
It Was Written had its gems, but at least half of the songs were generic as hell.
It was like Nas just penned some lyrics and the trackmasters threw together a beat
and made a few songs "just for the hell of it."
> Another underrated album was Devil's Night by D-12.
I would say it had enough good songs to make it worth keeping. All of Bizarre's
verses sucked, which was dissapointing because his lyrics on "Shit On You" are
entertaining. "Devil's Night" coasts around 4 mics, depending on how I feel.
Air Jordank 420
that still come out. Chronic 2001 already sounds very stale and old, and
speaking for myself, I was very dissapointed in this album, too much Hittman
(where did he go?).
As far as saying that The Chronic isn't saying much, then what is, Ja Rule,
Nelly, Cash Money, or even Chronic 2001? NEGRO PLEASE! The rhymes on The
Chronic album are crazy sick. I think you need to go back and peep the Snoop's
verses on that album, especially on "Stranded On Death Row".
Now I'm a fan of Eminem, and when Purple Pills came out, I was all for it. I
decided to go get the album, and I think it's was the most overrated album
ever, and to this day, I wish I would have used that money to buy Bobby
Digital's "Digital Bullet" despite the bad reviews it recieved. D12 rhymes on
that were wack and it's was just 70 minutes of who can lyrically kill the most
people and insult the most celebraties.
Most underrated album: Talib Kweli & Hi Tek "Reflection Eternal"
The album speaks for itself, and if you haven't heard it, you definitaly need
to go get it.
Analogic
Underrated Emcee ever. It's the Emcee 90% of every so called hiphoppa
hates. Yet don't seem to realise that this man has done more for
Hiphop than any person on the PLANET (I am not exaggerating).
This person is KRS-1. Absolutly THE BEST EMCEE IN HIPHOP! It's funny.
the New jack that think there hiphoppas (that are actually just thugs
that like rap music) say they love Hiphop! Yet When the name KRS-1 is
brought up they start whinin and complaining about "Why doesn't that
guy just shut up and die. I hate that guy! He's not cool."
has kept the shit underground for over 15 years!!! And hes still
here!!
You little G Homie Thugs might hate his shit. But the Emcees you
listen to grew up inspired by KRS-1. You have know clue how long this
man has been around! You have know clue at all where your heros get
there ideas from! They get it from guys like KRS-1, guy who never left
Hiphops pure elements. Guys who never left the streets.
The Term 'Bling bling' was used by KRS-1 in 1993 (on the Return of the
Boom Bap)!!! nearly 10 years ago!! Used as a derogatory term to those
who would sell out the culture in replace of cash, bitches, commercial
popularity. Now you can't get away from the term.
Xzibits song the Kenny Parker show was a remake of KRS-1s song The
Kenny Parker Show with DJ Kenny Parker back in 1990! Plus when KRS-1
asked Xzibit if he wanted to join the Temple of Hiphop (which KRS-1 is
the founder of) Xzibit jumped at the chance!!
Snoop song "Dogs Gonna Getcha" is an exact duplicate of KRS-1s song,
Loves gonna getcha!
Ja Rule his name is a straight bite off of KRS-1's album Blue Print of
Hiphop. The third song on the album is called "Jah Rulez".
KRS-1 has been talking about Commercial vs underground back in the
80's!!
The Temple of Hiphop is backed by the most influencial, most respected
and the pioneers of Hiphop!!
KRS-1 invented the on beat off beat technique!
Tupac was a follower of KRS (bet none of you knew that!!! Tupac lived
in New York grew up in poorer nehiborhoods and was brought up by a
Black Panther. Ghetto Justice was important in that family. Who Rapped
about Ghetto Justice, and the movement of black people more than
anyone? KRS-1. You damn right Tupac listend to KRS".
Click the Superlatin crew did a beat box remix using KRS-1's Return of
the Boom Bap.
The man is the most respected man in Hiphop! No one dares battle him
cuase they know theyll lose! KRS said he "Gives birth to Emcees & he
also gives abortions". It's true
Ask yourself "What ever happened to Canibuss"? I'll tell you what
happened, KRS-1 schooled him then challenged him. What did Canibus do?
He vanished. Why becuase he knows he's basically the corner stone of
Hiphop!!!
KRS-1 was started Gangster SHIT YEARS BEFORE DR. DRE!!!
KRS-1 has been rapping longer than any other Emcee. And what type of
technique does he use? The hardest style of all. Underground Consious
style. The style every little Fake gangster and fake Thug is afraid to
listen to.
KRS was practicing the first element of Hiphop (graffiti art). Before
he started Hiphop element #3 Emceeing.
Most of you guys will never understand why guys like me are pissed off
with the situation "Hiphop" is in. I'll tell you. On the radio you
here "yah great Hiphop station" but in fact it's just R&B mixed with
Thug rap/gangster rap.
Or you hear people say. Wow what is this Underground Hiphop?
Fuck that shit! Undergroud Hiphop IS HIPHOP! Commerciall bling bling
rap is the fake shit. It's called Hiphop and Commercial hip-hop, not
underground Hiphop and hip-hop.
The man taught at Yale university after failing classes in Highschool.
So to recap KRS-1 is the best and most undderated Emcee of all time.
Very very close behind is BizMarkie (email me and I'll prove it with
facts).
You tell me any Emcee that did more than the K. (Want more info visit
the temple at www.templeofhiphop.com)
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Matthias Jost
> Hiphop. The third song on the album is called "Jah Rulez".
This is where this post gets ridiculous. Jah is simply the abbreviation
of Jahwe (or Jehova), and has been around long before Kris made
it a song title.
Schooling people is alright and I feel some of the sentiments voiced
in this post, but for the most part it was overzealous as hell.
Matt
+MJ is listening to the "NO MORE PRISONS" album+
A to the L
said:
>This person is KRS-1. Absolutly THE BEST EMCEE IN HIPHOP!
um.... Kane? Rakim? Big L? Finesse?
>has kept the shit underground for over 15 years!!!
especially with the Puffy remix of "Step Into a World"...
>You little G Homie Thugs might hate his shit. But the Emcees you
>listen to grew up inspired by KRS-1.
I grew up listening to Spoonie Gee and Kurtis Blow and Busy Bee, so I
doubt it. Unless KRS also possessed a time travelling device...
>You have know clue how long this
>man has been around!
yes I do... I also no how to spell "no clue"...
>The Term 'Bling bling' was used by KRS-1 in 1993 (on the Return of the
>Boom Bap)!!! nearly 10 years ago!!
So? The term "transformer scratch" never got bandied about until Jazzy
Jay and Cash Money started performing it. The whole "shizzle my
nizzle" slang has been going on for years but has only came into the
popular eye since Snoop used it on a track. Your point is?
> Now you can't get away from the term.
I can... I just listen to old school Hiphop and funk...
>Xzibits song the Kenny Parker show was a remake of KRS-1s song The
>Kenny Parker Show with DJ Kenny Parker back in 1990!
Wow! I'd never guessed!
>Plus when KRS-1
>asked Xzibit if he wanted to join the Temple of Hiphop (which KRS-1 is
>the founder of) Xzibit jumped at the chance!!
How high? I bet nasty ol' Kris had his arm forced up his back at the
time...
>Snoop song "Dogs Gonna Getcha" is an exact duplicate of KRS-1s song,
>Loves gonna getcha!
Wow! Did you also know that Snoop's "Lodi Dodi" is a direct BITE of
Slick Rick and Doug E Fresh's "La-di-Da-di"? Hey guess what? Snoop
also remade Biz's "Vapors"? Once again apart from proving that Snoop
pays homage by recycling old school tracks, your point is?
>Ja Rule his name is a straight bite off of KRS-1's album Blue Print of
>Hiphop. The third song on the album is called "Jah Rulez".
A workmate of mine is in his late 30's and has never listened to
Hiphop in his life - his son is named Kris. Obviously he's a secret
member of the Temple Of Hiphop, then. Hey guess what else? Tame One
obviously bit down hard on Krs-One's name too!
>KRS-1 has been talking about Commercial vs underground back in the
>80's!!
So has PE. So has De La. So has EPMD. So has Run DMC. Your point is?
>The Temple of Hiphop is backed by the most influencial, most respected
>and the pioneers of Hiphop!!
So? Running short of members are we? Need some new subscriptions?
>KRS-1 invented the on beat off beat technique!
Explain in more detail... then I can shoot your arguments down
again...
>Tupac was a follower of KRS (bet none of you knew that!!! Tupac lived
>in New York grew up in poorer nehiborhoods and was brought up by a
>Black Panther.
Tupac, despite once carrying the name MC New York, mainly grew up in
Baltimore.
>Ghetto Justice was important in that family. Who Rapped
>about Ghetto Justice, and the movement of black people more than
>anyone?
PE, Lakim Shabazz, Paris for starters...
>You damn right Tupac listend to KRS".
I'm sure he did. I listened to KRS too... do I get a prize?
>The man is the most respected man in Hiphop!
*cough* Bam *cough* Kool Herc *cough* Red Alert
>No one dares battle him
>cuase they know theyll lose!
a debate with him maybe? but I can name a ton of people who could
handle KRS in a battle quite easily - his self-indulgent rants, and
self-contradictory quotes provide endless ammo...
>KRS said he "Gives birth to Emcees & he
>also gives abortions". It's true
So he's a practising gynacologist now too?
>Ask yourself "What ever happened to Canibuss"? I'll tell you what
>happened, KRS-1 schooled him then challenged him. What did Canibus do?
>He vanished.
When did KRS challenge Canibus? Think you'll find that was LL old
chum... and he didn't vanish, he just put out a third album that
rivals KRS-One's new Spiritual Minded joint in wackness levels...
>KRS-1 was started Gangster SHIT YEARS BEFORE DR. DRE!!!
And Schooly D and Just-Ice did nothing did they?
>KRS-1 has been rapping longer than any other Emcee.
bullshit...
>KRS was practicing the first element of Hiphop (graffiti art). Before
>he started Hiphop element #3 Emceeing.
so were a lot of people... what makes this special? And who told you
that graffiti came 1st, and emceeing came 3rd? KRS?
>Most of you guys will never understand why guys like me are pissed off
>with the situation "Hiphop" is in. I'll tell you. On the radio you
>here "yah great Hiphop station" but in fact it's just R&B mixed with
>Thug rap/gangster rap.
>Or you hear people say. Wow what is this Underground Hiphop?
yawn...
>Fuck that shit! Undergroud Hiphop IS HIPHOP! Commerciall bling bling
>rap is the fake shit. It's called Hiphop and Commercial hip-hop, not
>underground Hiphop and hip-hop.
or as your man put it - Hiphop vs Rap! See I can introduce KRS songs
into any arguement to support or disagree with a point too! Aren't I
cool?
>The man taught at Yale university after failing classes in Highschool.
No... he LECTURED at Yale. Big difference...
>So to recap KRS-1 is the best and most undderated Emcee of all time.
>Very very close behind is BizMarkie (email me and I'll prove it with
>facts).
Kane. Chuck D. Flav. Rakim. Ice Cube. Ice T. Caz. Kool Moe Dee. LL.
Ulta. DITC. need I go on?
>
>You tell me any Emcee that did more than the K. (Want more info visit
>the temple at www.templeofhiphop.com)
Please detach yourself from Mr Parker's testicles before you reply...
although I don't think you will....
Adrunk
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A to the L
said:
>Flav? Flav? Flav? Flav? Flav?
>
>Ad.....Flav?
Yeah... MC Flav - (rhymes with "have") - part of the Flav Lav Wav
crew... illest emcee on the planet...
PEACH
A to the L (didn't put Flavor Flav in the wrong part of a smartass
answer, did he?)
Adrunk
I doubt very many people hate KRS One apart from the people like me who can
see that he's a bumbling, self contradictory, overpretentious ego tripping
fool. Although you'd love to turn this into a commercial vs underground or
old school vs new school war, it won't happen.
"Yet don't seem to realise that this man has done more for Hiphop than any
person on the PLANET (I am not exaggerating)."
Oh, sure you are.
"Absolutly THE BEST EMCEE IN HIPHOP!"
Hardly.
"Yet When the name KRS-1 is brought up they start whinin and complaining
about "Why doesn't that guy just shut up and die. I hate that guy! He's not
cool."
Do they really? Or is that just a invented situation you've created to fuel
the old school underground vs new school commercial war that rages within
the cauldron of your brain? I suspect the latter.
" has kept the shit underground for over 15 years!!!"
Hmm, of course, despite his chart-blasting collabs with those raw,
unadulterated underground hip hop acts REM, Sugar Ray and Crazy Town.
" And hes still here!!"
Apparently.
"Guys who never left the streets."
Tell me, where does KRS One live?
"The Term 'Bling bling' was used by KRS-1 in 1993 (on the Return of the
Boom Bap)!!! nearly 10 years ago!!"
Well done, and your point is?
"Xzibits song the Kenny Parker show was a remake of KRS-1s song The Kenny
Parker Show with DJ Kenny Parker back in 1990!"
Well blow me down. I'd never have guessed, what with KRS on the track and
all.
" Plus when KRS-1 asked Xzibit if he wanted to join the Temple of Hiphop
(which KRS-1 is the founder of) Xzibit jumped at the chance!!"
So?
"Ja Rule his name is a straight bite off of KRS-1's album Blue Print of
Hiphop. The third song on the album is called "Jah Rulez"."
Hahahaha.......
I'm surprised you don't bring up the Jay-Z Blueprint 'biting' issue.
" KRS-1 has been talking about Commercial vs underground back in the 80's!!"
So have a lot of people.
"Tupac was a follower of KRS (bet none of you knew that!!!"
No I didn't. I never knew that from under my thugged out bandana and
through the glare of my ice. I thought Tupac would have hated someone as
uncool and as unrap and as, like, old as KRSO-NE.
"Who Rapped about Ghetto Justice, and the movement of black people more than
anyone? "
Chuck D, of course.
"KRS-1."
Wrong.
"Click the Superlatin crew did a beat box remix using KRS-1's Return of the
Boom Bap."
SO WHAT???
" KRS-1 was started Gangster SHIT YEARS BEFORE DR. DRE!!! "
Wrong.
" KRS-1 has been rapping longer than any other Emcee."
Wrong.
" The style every little Fake gangster and fake Thug is afraid to listen
to."
Wrong.
"KRS was practicing the first element of Hiphop (graffiti art). Before he
started Hiphop element #3 Emceeing."
Since when did the fourth elements have an order.
"Undergroud Hiphop IS HIPHOP!"
Really? I'd never have guessed from the name.
Commerciall bling bling rap is the fake shit."
"It's called Hiphop and Commercial hip-hop"
I thought you said it wasn't hip hop at all. Obviously you've picked up
some of KRS's tendencies for self-contradictions while you were hanging
precariously off his dick.
"So to recap KRS-1 is the best and most undderated Emcee of all time."
Underrated? Despite being constantly and wrongly hailed as one of the
founders of the art? Despite being constantly cited for President? Despite
being constantly labeled the Greatest Of All Time, mostly by clueless
half-backpackers like yourself? Oh do shut up.
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