Bloody Stupid Johnson's fans!
niki kamarianou
Me and a friend of mine are SO big fans of Terry that we even decided
to do our thesis dessertation about him! We study architecture in Greece
and since we couldnt make a "maze so small that you get lost searching
for it", we chose as ur subject "architecture in the world of Terry
Pratchett". Isnt bloody Stupid Johnson a genius or what? In order to get
our diploma and enter the guilt of Architects (Those people who design
those wacky biuldings) we need your help!
If it is not a great rouble for you out there please try answering
in a few words these questions:
1. Please describe Ankh-Morpork
2. How do you imagine Lord Vetinari's palace
3. Can you match the following places on the Disk with real countries?Ephebe,
Omnia, Al-Khali, Holly-wood, XXXX, Hunghung
4. Did you notice any architectural references while reading the books?
Did they help you?
5. Describe Death's domain
Thanx, you're really helping here!
Niki + Elli
Suzi
news:3C62497F...@arch.auth.gr...
I'm going to be blunt at this point - this group does not exist to do
your homework for you, or to give you great big savings in the time it
takes you to do your own research.
If you are looking for people who are willing to help you with your
research, then ask for volunteers to mail you.
[Snip]
> If it is not a great rouble for you out there please try answering in
> a few words these questions:
> 1. Please describe Ankh-Morpork
Ummm... Buy the Mappe of Ankh-Morpork? Read the books?
> 2. How do you imagine Lord Vetinari's palace
> 3. Can you match the following places on the Disk with real
> countries?Ephebe, Omnia, Al-Khali, Holly-wood, XXXX, Hunghung
Most/All very obvious when you read the books...
> 4. Did you notice any architectural references while reading the
> books?
> Did they help you?
> 5. Describe Death's domain
Ummm... Buy the Mappe of Death's Domain?
Alternatively, you could try: http://www.kew1.demon.co.uk/homework.html
Suzi
(I must admit - it's been a while since we had a "please do my homework"
request from anyone in here <g>)
Speaker-to-Customers
"niki kamarianou" wrote ...(in HTML, so my reply in plain text lacks the
normal signs to show which is their post and which is my reply)...
Hello everybody!!!! (which is a sure sign of a disturbed mind)
Me and a friend of mine are SO big fans of Terry that we even decided to do
our thesis dessertation about him! We study architecture in Greece and since
we couldnt make a "maze so small that you get lost searching for it", we
chose as ur subject "architecture in the world of Terry Pratchett". Isnt
bloody Stupid Johnson a genius or what? In order to get our diploma and
enter the guilt of Architects (Those people who design those wacky
biuldings) we need your help!
If it is not a great rouble for you out there please try answering in a few
words these questions:
1. Please describe Ankh-Morpork
Ankle-deep slurry.
2. How do you imagine Lord Vetinari's palace
Neurons in my brain fire electrical impulses along nerves, resulting in
thoughts termed "imagination".
3. Can you match the following places on the Disk with real
countries?Ephebe, Omnia, Al-Khali, Holly-wood, XXXX, Hunghung
If you don't recognise Ephebe then you are not really in Greece. Omnia is
Salt Lake City, USA, but without the Winter Olympics. Al-Khali is the
Arabia of the Arabian Nights, at the time of Haroun Al-Rashid. Holy Wood is
Hollywood - not a country. XXXX is Australia. Hunghung is not a country,
but a city; Beijing is the real-world equivalent.
4. Did you notice any architectural references while reading the books? Did
they help you?
Yes I noticed them. Why should they have helped me? I'm not an architect.
5. Describe Death's domain
Black.
Thanx, you're really helping here!
No, I'm not.
Niki + Elli
Paul Speaker-to-Customers
(My real name is "Johnson"; people who call me "Bloody Stupid" die quickly
and horribly).
"Go not to newsgroups for counsel, for they will say both 'No' and 'Yes',
and 'Read the FAQ'."
Speaker-to-Customers
"Suzi" wrote ...
> (replying to niki kamarianou)
>
> I'm going to be blunt at this point - this group does not exist to do
> your homework for you, or to give you great big savings in the time it
> takes you to do your own research.
> (I must admit - it's been a while since we had a "please do my homework"
> request from anyone in here <g>)
Not just homework, but a thesis! 2002 Nobel Prize for optimism, I think.
Paul Speaker-to-Customers
David Chapman
>
> Me and a friend of mine are SO big fans of Terry that we even decided to
> do our thesis dessertation about him!
Then read the books, and do your own homework. Don't ask
*us* to write your thesis.
--
Some people don't want to let go of their belongings,
you know?
Andy Brown
<oct...@mcb.net> wrote:
>
>Holy Wood is Hollywood - not a country.
True, it's a whole other planet
8-)
--
Andy Brown
At work. All opinions are my own.
Graycat
wrote:
>> If it is not a great rouble for you out there please try answering in
>> a few words these questions:
>> 1. Please describe Ankh-Morpork
>
>Ummm... Buy the Mappe of Ankh-Morpork? Read the books?
Not to mention the fact that trying to describe Ankh-Morpork in a few
words would probably cause severe head traume as your brain explodes
from sensory overload. Or, you could stick to, it's very much like a
pearl: the excretions of a sick mollusc.
Elin
Michel
Why do you need us for that? I don't really get the point. I thought to be
an architect you'd need to learn how to design *real* buildings, not think
about imaginary ones.
</me reads message a33f8b$299$1...@library.lspace.org and following posts> [1]
Ah. That explains.
Also, you might want to put "Asterix and Cleopatra" on you literature list,
a very
architectural comic/animation.
I don't mind being researched or to assist, but the whole point of this
thesis
is completely unclear to me.
And I am very disappointed I can't make munny fast with helping you ;-)
Michel
E-mail sanity at klijmij.net
[1] If you can't be bothered to read that: suddenly someone from the library
of my uni appeared in this group, which made me start a little discussion
about architecture and why it shouldn't exist.
--
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Trying to build/maintain http://michel.klijmij.net/afp
Steve Hurley
Me and a friend of mine are SO big fans of Terry that we even decided to do
our thesis dessertation about him!
>Rest of post snipped due to bad spelling and grammar.<
You'd be best advised to learn English first.
Michel
news:4gy88.5310$YF2.35...@news-text.cableinet.net...
However questionable their post is, I think it's not very polite to
blame Greeks for not being fluent at English.
I only remember one word from my (ancient) Greek lessons, which is (in
our letters) "to ploion" - "the boat". Is this still a boat in modern
Greek? Just curious.
Michel
E-mail sanity at klijmij.net
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Trying to build/maintain http://michel.klijmij.net/afp/
Alex the Eternally Harassed
Dear Nutty Campsite,
Thank you for your informative and succinct message which you posted to
alt.fan.pratchett. While we would love to help you by doing your homework
for you, it is unfortunately not possible at this time.
But just so you don't get too upset, my mum has given me permission to
answer on afp's behalf:
1. No
2. By reading the descriptions in the books
3. Yes. Most of them anyway.
4. Not per-se. Help do what?
5. It's a placeholder website by one of those annoying domain squatters
--
Alex the Eternally Harassed
.sig when I can be bothered...
Phil Davison
Not to mention the fact that trying to describe Ankh-Morpork will
inevitably degenerate into a discussion of beer, bread products,
chocolate-covered coffee beans, the right sort of chocolate to cover
coffee beans with, the right kind of coffee beans to cover with
chocolate, whether there will ever be an A-M meet, whether there can
ever be enough shelf space, whether Terry Pratchett is actually
reading this, what is Terry Pratchett's e-mail address, whether cheese
is nice, what sort of cheese might be nice if you think cheese is
nice, why can't you get certain types of cheese in Australia, whether
trains will ever run on time, whether trains will ever run at all,
whether train passengers leave their brains at home before going to
the station, why there are no bins on underground platforms, whether
people will be able to make it to a meet, whether people will be
driving under the meet in their trains at the time, whether you
should destroy bad books by burning them, using them for landfill,
giving them to people you don't like, fobbing them off on charity
shops, whether Outlook Express is any good, what news readers can be
used instead of Outlook Express, what e-mail programs can be used
instead of Outlook Express, whether Asimov's laws of robotics
actually exist, which of Asimov's laws of robotics don't work even if
they do exist, more beer, more bread products, products other than
coffee beans which can be chocolate-covered, whether roundabouts are
an endangered species, oook ook ooook ook ook, the Clangers, Bagpuss,
whether the original version of the Carpet People will ever be
reissued, Finnish pronunciation, English pronunciation, Merkin
pronunciation, the definition of "merkin", whether people posting
from certain ISPs are less clued up than others, what people think of
the book "Lord Of The Rings", what people think of the film "Lord Of
The Rings", which characters shouldn't have been left out of the film
"Lord Of The Rings", who should play which character if the Discworld
books were filmed, who should play which character if Good Omens gets
filmed, whether there should be spoiler space for "The Italian Job",
where did ppint go, hello Rocky - long time no see, when will the
next signing tour take place, will the next signing tour visit *my*
home town, why won't the next signing tour visit *my* home town,
student recipes, operating systems to use other than Windows,
palmtop-geeking, filks, history, slavery, the rights of man, HTML,
javascript, JScript, java, perl, SETI, astrology, astronomy,
religion, politics, whether smileys should be used, which smileys
should be used, which smileys shouldn't be used, more beer, more
bread products, more chocolate-covered coffee beans, and finally it
might get back to "Can you do my homework for me please?"
--
Cyclops
Jens Kristoffer Nielsen
<ph...@cyclops.force9.co.uk> wrote:
This description of the afp is wonderful. Too bad it won't fit in a
.sig. But shouldn't it have been posted in that "Did I miss anything?"
thread? Or perhaps put in an faq? Or the clue fairies' mail?
/Kristoffer
--
Most of the sf I bought as a kid was from The Little
Library in High Wycombe, where piles and piles of great secondhand or
remaindered sf was sold as a front for the porn. I think I was the only
person who bought the sf.
The spiritual home of an sf bookshop is between the porn shop and the
tattoo parlour...
Terry Pratchett on alt.fan.pratchett
Andy Davison
<3C62497F...@arch.auth.gr>, niki kamarianou <ni...@arch.auth.gr>
wrote:
>1. Please describe Ankh-Morpork
It's Ankh and Morpork with a river in between
>2. How do you imagine Lord Vetinari's palace
It's a palace. It's got Lord Vetinari in it.
>3. Can you match the following places on the Disk with real
>countries?Ephebe, Omnia, Al-Khali, Holly-wood, XXXX, Hunghung
Yes.
>4. Did you notice any architectural references while reading the books?
Yes thanks.
>Did they help you?
Not really. I was looking for a pink and perforated ping-pong ball at
the time.
>5. Describe Death's domain
It's a fold-out map with pictures and some writing in it. You can get
a copy at www.amazon.com if your local bookshop is out of stock.
--
Andy Davison
an...@oiyou.force9.co.uk
Len Oil
> Not to mention the fact that trying to describe Ankh-Morpork will
> inevitably degenerate into a discussion of beer, bread products,
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> wsocmbniytcin, wcygctociA, wtwerot, wtweraa, wtpltbahbgtts, wtanboup,
> wpwbatmitam, wpwbdutmittatt, wysdbbbbt, utfl, gttpydl, ftoocs, wOEiag,
> wnrcbuioOE, wepcbuioOE, wAlorae, woAlordweitde, mb, mbp, potcbwcbcc,
> wraaes, ooooo, tC, B, wtovotCPwebr, Fp, Ep, Mp, tdom, wppfcIalcuto,
> wptotbLOTR, wptotfLOTR, wcshblootfLOTR, wspwcitDbwf, wspwciGOgf,
> wtsbssfTIJ, wdpg, hRltns, wwtnsttp, wtnstvmht, wwtnstvmht, sr, ostuotW,
> pg, f, h, s, throm, H, j, J, j, p, S, a, a, r, p, wssbu, wssbu, wssbu,
> mb, mbp, mcccb, afi
</MODE>
> might get back to "Can you do my homework for me please?"
BRAVO.
If I had a hat I'd tip it to you.
--
Len Oil,
the man with no imaginative .sig yet.
Alex the Eternally Harassed
> Graycat wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 13:38:09 -0000, "Suzi" <Bra...@mothernature.co.uk>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>> If it is not a great rouble for you out there please try answering in
>>>> a few words these questions:
>>>> 1. Please describe Ankh-Morpork
>>>
>>>Ummm... Buy the Mappe of Ankh-Morpork? Read the books?
>>
>>Not to mention the fact that trying to describe Ankh-Morpork in a few
>>words would probably cause severe head traume as your brain explodes
>>from sensory overload. Or, you could stick to, it's very much like a
>>pearl: the excretions of a sick mollusc.
>>
> Not to mention the fact that trying to describe Ankh-Morpork will
<snip amazing description of afp>
And to think - some of us have wasted _years_ doing it the slow way when
all we needed all along was this summary.
Well now that none of us ever need to read afp again, can we rmgroup it?
Richard Bos
> Well now that none of us ever need to read afp again, can we rmgroup it?
*fwap* No. Vade retro.
Richard
Richard Bos
> I only remember one word from my (ancient) Greek lessons, which is (in
> our letters) "to ploion" - "the boat". Is this still a boat in modern
> Greek? Just curious.
Now I'm curious. Did this boat happen to be in Byzantium? And was it
going to go to Piraios, but end up being scuttled? If so, I have a
rather close-up knowledge of the thing...
Ooh, that wakes up old memories, that does.
"To ploion estin en Byzantion. Ende Byzantion, someone or other ekbainč
eis ton ploion." Or something like that, but more grammatical.
Richard
niki kamarianou
> doing a research!!! You know taking down facts and analysing it! Making sure
> averybody has the same impression of the buildings!!! Of course you are NOT
> asking you to do our thesis. It is just that we thought that almost every
> reader has an opinion about stuf and we are contemplaiting whether you agree
> or not!!!
Sorry if our english was not as good as for you to understand us
Niki & Elli
Spooky
You do a better job in English than I ever would in Greek, so no worries.
Perhaps you could ask for volunteers (as I believe someone has suggested) to
send 'questionnaires' to by mail? Then folk can fill it in as they see fit
and send it back for you to gather your information.
Just a thought.
--
Spooky :o)
Afpfiance to Andrew's pink and fluffy wossnames
Afp-mistress to Martyn's rose tinted wossnames.
If replying - kindly remove brain
niki kamarianou
> whether all funs have the same opinions about buildings in Pratchett's
> work! We are going to analyse all the data we can gather. I am sorry that
> we didnt express our intentions clearer! This is NOT an asking for you to
> do our thesis!
Yes I should heve asked for voluteers
Niki & Elli
>
niki kamarianou
Michel wrote:
Thank you very much for your support. Yes "ploion" still means a boat but
without the n at the end of the word! :)
Niki
niki kamarianou
Speaker-to-Customers wrote:
Thanx but you misunderstood us. Of course we know that Ephebe is Greece but we
wanted to know whether all the funs agree to that as with the other questions
This is a research and we are going to analyse the results!!!
Sorry if we didnt make it clear at the begining
Niki & Elli
niki kamarianou
Michel wrote:
Yes often people who are not architects are wondering whether architecture
should exist or not but let me tell you it should. The whole business with this
project is to can some information from other fans than us as to see whether
everybody agrees with the representation of several buildings and places. This
is a written project and not the design project we are doing in the same time
and which has nothing to do with imaginary architecture!
Niki & Elli
niki kamarianou
Richard Bos wrote:
> "Michel" <miche...@klijmij.net> wrote:
>
> > I only remember one word from my (ancient) Greek lessons, which is (in
> > our letters) "to ploion" - "the boat". Is this still a boat in modern
> > Greek? Just curious.
>
> Now I'm curious. Did this boat happen to be in Byzantium? And was it
> going to go to Piraios, but end up being scuttled? If so, I have a
> rather close-up knowledge of the thing...
>
> Ooh, that wakes up old memories, that does.
>
> "To ploion estin en Byzantion. Ende Byzantion, someone or other ekbainè
> eis ton ploion." Or something like that, but more grammatical.
>
> Richard
Well done! I see that you remember your ancient greek!! By the way from what
book is this actually taken from?
Niki
niki kamarianou
As I said before this is NOT doing our homework!!!
We already read the books and know the answers, but we wanted to do a research
and find out whether other fans agree with one another.
Niki & Elli
David Chapman
> As I said before this is NOT doing our homework!!!
> We already read the books and know the answers, but we wanted to do a
research
> and find out whether other fans agree with one another.
Did the lurkers answer your questions in e-mail?
Michel
news:3c637e4d....@news.tiscali.nl...
I don't remember whether this was Byzantium, however I do remember it
was `n [1] rapsode [2] boarding the boat. As the story conveniently
ended up in Athens at war with Sparta, destiniation Piraios seems
logical.
Michel
E-mail sanity at klijmij.net (reply-to is valid)
[1] pronounced, IIRC, "heh" ("head" without the "d"). "the" in Proper
English
[2] Bloke running around singing about heros.
Richard Bos
> Richard Bos wrote:
>
> > "Michel" <miche...@klijmij.net> wrote:
> >
> > > I only remember one word from my (ancient) Greek lessons, which is (in
> > > our letters) "to ploion" - "the boat". Is this still a boat in modern
> > > Greek? Just curious.
> >
> > Now I'm curious. Did this boat happen to be in Byzantium? And was it
> > going to go to Piraios, but end up being scuttled? If so, I have a
> > rather close-up knowledge of the thing...
> >
> > Ooh, that wakes up old memories, that does.
> >
> > "To ploion estin en Byzantion. Ende Byzantion, someone or other ekbainč
> > eis ton ploion." Or something like that, but more grammatical.
>
> Well done! I see that you remember your ancient greek!!
Erm... *cough* That is actually about the extent of what I remember,
except all those words that keep being used for scientific terminology.
My knowledge of Ancient Greek _language_ is just about non-existent. I
dropped it after a year or two; all I can remember is a few quotations.
> By the way from what book is this actually taken from?
Ah, well, that's why I'm asking.
They are the first lines from my first Ancient Greek schoolbook. It was
called, IIRC, "Hellenike", and my class was the second one to work with
the Dutch translation, and the first one to work with the second or
third book, I think. It was translated from the English version by my
own teacher of Greek. He now has his own publishing firm that publishes
all kinds of study books for Latin and Greek.
Since it would be a bit of a coincidence if Michel just happened to
remember "ploion", but quite natural if he used that book in which it is
the second word and the first noun, I am curious if he used the book I
helped test and develop.
In fact, I did a bit more than that: for the first version, before my
teacher went commercial, I wrote a computer program to help people
practice their vocabulary. In GWBasic, of all things... It had to draw
the Greek characters in graphics mode, since MS-DOS didn't have an
easily usable Greek font. I remember it rather fondly; it was my first
semi-serious programming attempt, and for the time (and my age)
sufficiently succesful, I think.
Richard
robert craine
> Hello everybody!!!! (which is a sure sign of a disturbed mind)
>
> Me and a friend of mine are SO big fans of Terry that we even decided to
> do our thesis dessertation about him! We study architecture in Greece
> and since we couldnt make a "maze so small that you get lost searching
> for it", we chose as ur subject "architecture in the world of Terry
> Pratchett".
A quick google revealed she also said, back in May last year ,in
message <9egp3q$5a5$1...@orionl0.ccf.auth.gr>:
>
> By the way I am writting an essay on the imaginary architecture of the
> Discworld in general, so If any of you have any ideas or recommentations
> please let me know.
<snip>
> I am due to submit it in February! So I have lots of time to reconsider it.
Looks like she hasn't used the time wisely and now wants us to do her
thesis at the last minute.
Wasn't there a biography we used to send people like this?
Robert
--
I shall add no more, but that a mathematician will easily percieve it
is not put in such a Dress as to be taken notice of by him, there
being an abundance of Words spent to make the more ordinary sort of
People understand it.
John Arbruthnot 'Of The Laws of Chance' (1692)
Richard Bos
> "Richard Bos" <in...@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl> schreef in bericht
> news:3c637e4d....@news.tiscali.nl...
> > Ooh, that wakes up old memories, that does.
> >
> > "To ploion estin en Byzantion. Ende Byzantion, someone or other
> > ekbainč
> > eis ton ploion." Or something like that, but more grammatical.
>
> I don't remember whether this was Byzantium, however I do remember it
> was `n [1] rapsode [2] boarding the boat. As the story conveniently
> ended up in Athens at war with Sparta, destiniation Piraios seems
> logical.
Yup, same book. Say a word of thanks to dear Mr. Van den Heuvel, my old
Greek teacher.
Richard
Michel
Thanks for the many hours of sweating, translating, hard labour, trying
to pronounce the stuff, staying up late to learn it all. I wouldn't be
the same person I am now without having learned ancient Greek for 2
years. (I dropped it in favour of Latin).
Michel
E-mail sanity at klijmij.net, reply-to is valid
--
Bringing Ancient Languages to AFP since 2001
E-mail sanity at klijmij.net
Aquarion
> Graycat wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 13:38:09 -0000, "Suzi" <Bra...@mothernature.co.uk>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>> If it is not a great rouble for you out there please try answering in
>>>> a few words these questions:
>>>> 1. Please describe Ankh-Morpork
>>>
>>>Ummm... Buy the Mappe of Ankh-Morpork? Read the books?
>>
>>Not to mention the fact that trying to describe Ankh-Morpork in a few
>>words would probably cause severe head traume as your brain explodes
>>from sensory overload. Or, you could stick to, it's very much like a
>>pearl: the excretions of a sick mollusc.
>>
> Not to mention the fact that trying to describe Ankh-Morpork will
> inevitably degenerate into a discussion of
>[...] palmtop-geeking, [...]
Which reminds me.
Can anyone recommend a cheap palmtop? (as in £100 cheap) Dixons are
selling Palm m105s for that, but I was wondering if anyone had any better
ideas...
Yours in total sincerity
Aquarion
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Richard Bos
> "Richard Bos" <in...@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl> schreef in bericht
> news:3c63b3d4....@news.tiscali.nl...
> > Yup, same book. Say a word of thanks to dear Mr. Van den Heuvel, my
> > old Greek teacher.
>
> Thanks for the many hours of sweating, translating, hard labour, trying
> to pronounce the stuff, staying up late to learn it all. I wouldn't be
> the same person I am now without having learned ancient Greek for 2
> years. (I dropped it in favour of Latin).
Ditto, and ditto. Too bad for the man, all that trouble for nothing[1],
but let's face it, Latin is _much_ more useful, right? ;-)
Richard
[1] Well, nothing... it made him a decent amount of money, I presume...
Michel
news:3c63d38d....@news.tiscali.nl...
> "Michel" <miche...@klijmij.net> wrote:
[snip greek and how we all like it ;-)]
> but let's face it, Latin is _much_ more useful, right? ;-)
Well, in "Asterix" I can understand Caesar when he says 'Veni Vidi Vici'
without looking and the footnote. Oh, and I know when TP is using fake
Latin. :-)
> [1] Well, nothing... it made him a decent amount of money, I
presume...
From a school book? Never had that down as Activity To Earn Money.
I can see the MMF spam: "Make money fast - follow our course to write
your own Greek Schoolbook and Earn ?????s!"
Michel
E-mail sanity at klijmij.net, reply-to valid
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Brian Howlett
[snip]
> Oh, and I know when TP is using fake Latin. :-)
>
TP doesn't use fake Latin. He uses real Latatian.
[snip]
HTH, HAND, etc... ;-)
--
Brian Howlett
--------------------------------------------
"There ain't half been some clever bastards"
- the late Ian Dury
Phil Davison
>On Thu, 07 Feb 2002 21:05:20 GMT, Phil Davison
><ph...@cyclops.force9.co.uk> wrote:
>
<Snip my description of afp>
>
>This description of the afp is wonderful. Too bad it won't fit in a
>..sig. But shouldn't it have been posted in that "Did I miss anything?"
>thread? Or perhaps put in an faq? Or the clue fairies' mail?
>
Well, this was the abbreviated version so it was "only a few words"!
Somewhere in there should have been...
"...whether this discussion properly belongs in a different thread..."
<vbg>
--
Cyclops
Warwick
says...
> >
> >Not to mention the fact that trying to describe Ankh-Morpork in a few
> >words would probably cause severe head traume as your brain explodes
> >from sensory overload. Or, you could stick to, it's very much like a
> >pearl: the excretions of a sick mollusc.
> >
> Not to mention the fact that trying to describe Ankh-Morpork will
> inevitably degenerate into a discussion of beer....
Applause... A lot better than my effort a few weeks ago.. Now how the
hell do I fit it to a WcQ compliant sig?
Warwick
Warwick
Architects come up with the vision.
Engineers make that vision safe in a breeze.
Structural engineers make it safe in a medium wind. Structural engineers
who haven't been consulted on a high profile bridge project that sways
when people walk on it (a) resign from the design firm and (b) laugh in
the faces of the designers while showing them videos of Tacoma.
PR people talk to the designers who are 'more our level dear' and
produce brochures to ensure that the public is aware that the whole
project was a case of design and engineering going hand in hand.
Warwick -- got a hot ear recently from an engineer at a certain firm
Richard Eney
niki kamarianou <ni...@arch.auth.gr> wrote:
>Yes often people who are not architects are wondering whether
>architecture should exist or not but let me tell you it should. The whole
>business with this project is to can some information from other fans
>than us as to see whether everybody agrees with the representation of
>several buildings and places. This is a written project and not the
>design project we are doing in the same time and which has nothing to do
>with imaginary architecture!
If you want a truly unbiased opinion, you could use Google and read
discussions of Ankh-Morpork, which cover whether its style is more 15th
century fantasy or 19th century DIckens-era, or why the Opera house is
18th century Italian yet the first theatre is late 16th or early 17th
century English, or whether the city as a whole resembless Prague more
than any other single major city despite having been written before Terry
ever saw Prague.
=Tamar
MP
Just use the PGP signature of the text...
MP :-}
niki kamarianou
Ο Richard Eney <dic...@Radix.Net> έγραψε στο μήνυμα συζήτησης:
a41rvt$6ro$1...@saltmine.radix.net...
I 'll use it!
Niki
niki kamarianou
Ο Spooky <laptop...@ntlworld.combrain> έγραψε στο μήνυμα συζήτησης:
j6N88.9644$H37.1...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com...
stuff, so should I get everyone's e-mail from here and send questioners or
what? Any sujestion would be welcomed!
Niki
niki kamarianou
Ο robert craine <robc...@hotmail.com> έγραψε στο μήνυμα συζήτησης:
b451e62a.02020...@posting.google.com...
Well as it happens I resceduled the project of course! As I said in all my
last e-mails THIS IS NOT ASKING YOU TO DO MY HOMEWORK!
niki kamarianou
Ο Michel <miche...@klijmij.net> έγραψε στο μήνυμα συζήτησης:
a40h0l$fg$1...@news1.xs4all.nl...
> "Richard Bos" <in...@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl> schreef in bericht
> news:3c63b3d4....@news.tiscali.nl...
> > "Michel" <miche...@klijmij.net> wrote:
> >
> > > "Richard Bos" <in...@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl> schreef in bericht
> > > news:3c637e4d....@news.tiscali.nl...
> > > > Ooh, that wakes up old memories, that does.
> > > >
> > > > "To ploion estin en Byzantion. Ende Byzantion, someone or other
> > > > eis ton ploion." Or something like that, but more grammatical.
> > >
> > > I don't remember whether this was Byzantium, however I do remember
> it
> > > was `n [1] rapsode [2] boarding the boat. As the story conveniently
> > > ended up in Athens at war with Sparta, destiniation Piraios seems
> > > logical.
> >
> > Yup, same book. Say a word of thanks to dear Mr. Van den Heuvel, my
> old
> > Greek teacher.
>
> Thanks for the many hours of sweating, translating, hard labour, trying
> to pronounce the stuff, staying up late to learn it all. I wouldn't be
> the same person I am now without having learned ancient Greek for 2
> years. (I dropped it in favour of Latin).
>
> Michel
> E-mail sanity at klijmij.net, reply-to is valid
>
> --
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> E-mail sanity at klijmij.net
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>
Rapsody because those happened only in Ancient Greece.
Niki
Spooky
> > "niki kamarianou" <ni...@arch.auth.gr> wrote in message
<snippo>
> > You do a better job in English than I ever would in Greek, so no
> > worries. Perhaps you could ask for volunteers (as I believe
> > someone has suggested) to send 'questionnaires' to by mail? Then
> > folk can fill it in as they see fit and send it back for you to gather
> > your information.
> > Just a thought.
> OK. I agree with you! But, you know, I am not that good with all that
> e-mail stuff, so should I get everyone's e-mail from here and send
> questioners or what? Any sujestion would be welcomed!
Well, Niki, do you have a website where you could set up a questionnaire?
That would be better.
If not; ask the afper's nicely if any of them would be willing for you to
send them a short questionnaire? If that is the case, could they mail you
with their chosen email addy.
Suzi
kamarianou <ni...@arch.auth.gr> wibbled...
[Snip]
> OK. I agree with you! But, you know, I am not that good with all that e-mail
> stuff, so should I get everyone's e-mail from here and send questioners or
> what? Any sujestion would be welcomed!
You ask for volunteers to contact you - do not send unsolicited mail to
everyone in AFP, you would likely lose your mail account if you did that
(not everyone here is _nice_). Besides which, if you ask for volunteers
you may pick up people who read the group but who don't post.
Suzi
Michel
news:a43c20$oof$1...@orionl0.ccf.auth.gr...
> Ο Michel <miche...@klijmij.net> έγραψε στο μήνυμα συζήτησης:
> a40h0l$fg$1...@news1.xs4all.nl...
> > "Richard Bos" <in...@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl> schreef in bericht
> > news:3c63b3d4....@news.tiscali.nl...
> > > "Michel" <miche...@klijmij.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Richard Bos" <in...@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl> schreef in bericht
> > > > news:3c637e4d....@news.tiscali.nl...
> > > > > Ooh, that wakes up old memories, that does.
> > > > >
> > > > > "To ploion estin en Byzantion. Ende Byzantion, someone or
other
> > > > > ekbainθ
> > > > > eis ton ploion." Or something like that, but more grammatical.
> > > >
> > > > I don't remember whether this was Byzantium, however I do
remember
> > it
> > > > was `n [1] rapsode [2] boarding the boat. As the story
conveniently
> > > > ended up in Athens at war with Sparta, destiniation Piraios
seems
> > > > logical.
> I think that you are mistaken. If it is in Byzantine it can not be a
> Rapsody because those happened only in Ancient Greece.
Well the man could have been on holiday, or trying to expand his
rhapsodian business to Byzantine?
Michel
Reply-to is valid, e-mail sanity at klijmij.net
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On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 00:08:52 -0000, Warwick <war...@lspace.org> wrote:
>Architects come up with the vision.
>
>Engineers make that vision safe in a breeze.
>
>Structural engineers make it safe in a medium wind. Structural engineers
>who haven't been consulted on a high profile bridge project that sways
>when people walk on it (a) resign from the design firm and (b) laugh in
>the faces of the designers while showing them videos of Tacoma.
Or take them for a quick look at Hammersmith (I think) Bridge which
has a sign saying "Marching soldiers must break step on this bridge"
because the builders knew it wasn't a good idea!!
Cheers,
Graham.
Richard Bos
> "Richard Bos" <in...@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl> wrote in
> news:3c63d38d....@news.tiscali.nl...
> > [1] Well, nothing... it made him a decent amount of money, I
> > presume...
>
> From a school book? Never had that down as Activity To Earn Money.
I have no idea whether it actually made him rich, but compared to a
normal schoolteacher's salary, I suppose grabbing a decent part of the
Laughing-and-Grief market is lucrative enough. Schoolbooks aren't cheap.
Richard
Richard Bos
> > > "Michel" <miche...@klijmij.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I don't remember whether this was Byzantium, however I do remember it
> > > > was `n [1] rapsode [2] boarding the boat. As the story conveniently
> > > > ended up in Athens at war with Sparta, destiniation Piraios seems
> > > > logical.
>
> I think that you are mistaken.
I think not; I've read the same book.
> If it is in Byzantine it can not be a Rapsody because those happened
> only in Ancient Greece.
The ship was in Byzantion, but it wasn't in the Byzantine period. The
story was set during, IIRC, either the Peleponessic wars or the Persian
wars. Ancient Greece, anyway.
Richard
Louise MacMahon
"Richard Bos" <in...@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl> wrote in message
news:3c67b2c7...@news.tiscali.nl...
Sir Sir
I know a bit about this.
My husband wot I live with wrote a maths book for a course that about 11000
students take each year in Ireland. He gets less than ?2000 a year from it,
taxable. This we have to declare seperately . Because I'm lousy at forms, 4
years in a row were declared late. We got fined about ?400 per late return
despite having over paid tax in each year. Great little earners school
books. OTOH he did only have to write it once
Louise
Jenny Radcliffe
> Hello everybody!!!! (which is a sure sign of a disturbed mind)
As is posting to a newsgroup without having a look for FAQs and such things.
> Me and a friend of mine are SO big fans of Terry that we even
> decided to do our thesis dessertation about him!
What, if I may ask, is a "thesis dessertation"? Assuming you aren't in fact
writing a thesis on meringues, one wouldn't usually use both "thesis" and
"dissertation" to describe something - it tends to be one or another.
> We study architecture in Greece and since we couldnt make a "maze
> so small that you get lost searching for it", we chose as ur
> subject "architecture in the world of Terry Pratchett". Isnt
> bloody Stupid Johnson a genius or what?
Well, by definition, no, more an anti-genius.
> In order to get our diploma and enter the guilt of Architects
> (Those people who design those wacky biuldings) we need your help!
> If it is not a great rouble for you out there please try answering
> in a few words these questions:
No, sorry. If it was too much trouble for *you* to investigate the
guidelines and ettiquette of newsgroups, it's too much trouble for *me* to
answer your questions.
Axel Kielhorn
> Can anyone recommend a cheap palmtop? (as in £100 cheap) Dixons are
> selling Palm m105s for that, but I was wondering if anyone had any better
> ideas...
They are about 180 EUR over here.
Maybe getting a second-hand III (or even V) would be cheaper.
Axel
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"The music would be much better without You." (Axel)
(Yes, I am talking to my wireless,
and no I don't need another therapist.)
Brian Howlett
> On Thu, 07 Feb 2002, Phil Davison <Phil> put forth:
[snip]
>> Not to mention the fact that trying to describe Ankh-Morpork will
>> inevitably degenerate into a discussion of
>
>> [...] palmtop-geeking, [...]
>
> Which reminds me.
>
> Can anyone recommend a cheap palmtop? (as in £100 cheap) Dixons are
> selling Palm m105s for that, but I was wondering if anyone had any
> better ideas...
>
<http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000050ABX/ref=ed_ec_h_cs_2_2/026-5427483-1327604>.
Looks like a good deal...
--
Brian Howlett
---------------------------------------------------
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department had a supervisor with a sub-machine gun.
Aquarion
> On 8 Feb, Aquarion exclaimed:
>
>> On Thu, 07 Feb 2002, Phil Davison <Phil> put forth:
> [snip]
>>> Not to mention the fact that trying to describe Ankh-Morpork will
>>> inevitably degenerate into a discussion of
>>
>>> [...] palmtop-geeking, [...]
>>
>> Which reminds me.
>>
>> Can anyone recommend a cheap palmtop? (as in £100 cheap) Dixons are
>> selling Palm m105s for that, but I was wondering if anyone had any
>> better ideas...
>>
><http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000050ABX/
>
'Kay, i've now got my nice Palm 105m, I hadn't seen that :-)
Oh, FWIW and today's Useful Information is as follows:
Amazon links break up like this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000050ABX/202-0443038-0326228
\--------------------/ \-------------/ \--------/ \-----------------/
Site Name Script Code # Session Ref.
So, in order to give a link to an amazon product, you really only need
to give everything up to the code number. (Everything after the code
number is a session referance and for database tracking. If you were
to, for example, replace the Session Ref above with an Amazon.uk
affiliates code, between 5 and 10% of your purchase will go to the
affiliate. Like, for example, replacing it with "maskerade-21" will
give it to the Maskerade Movie. That's how the Affiliates program
works.
Yours in total sincerity
Aquarion
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