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Commander Venus+

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Jul 30, 2003, 12:33:11 AM7/30/03
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Hail,

A quick question. How do I treat the punctuation in the follow sentence:

I'm merely making my point (and it's a good one!).

I'm not sure if this is grammatically correct or not. I'd like to include
the exclaimation _inside_ the brackets because that's where the emphasis
lies (rather than on the entire sentence).

Suggestions and guidance is appreciated.

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Commander Venus+
"Let's dance." (circa 2003)
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CyberCypher

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Jul 30, 2003, 12:46:54 AM7/30/03
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"Commander Venus+" <commander...@rogers.com> burbled
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> Hail,
>
> A quick question. How do I treat the punctuation in the follow
> sentence:
>
> I'm merely making my point (and it's a good one!).
>
> I'm not sure if this is grammatically correct or not. I'd like to
> include the exclaimation _inside_ the brackets because that's
> where the emphasis lies (rather than on the entire sentence).
>
> Suggestions and guidance is appreciated.

I wouldn't put the important point of the sentence inside
brackets/parentheses, because they mean that the information
contained within is relatively unimportant.

"I'm merely making my point, and it's a good one!" or

"I'm merely making my point---and it's a good one!" or

"I'm merely making my point. And it's a good one!"

are all stronger.

Commander Venus+

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Jul 30, 2003, 1:00:37 AM7/30/03
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"CyberCypher" <fra...@seed.net.tw> wrote in message
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I wouldn't say that the part inside the parentheses is important, it's more
of an off-handed remark which is why I put it in there to begin with.

CyberCypher

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Jul 30, 2003, 1:46:26 AM7/30/03
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"Commander Venus+" <commander...@rogers.com> burbled
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I see. The this is the way to punctuate it:

"I'm merely making my point (and it's a good one!)"

no final period outside the parenthesis.

Linz

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Jul 30, 2003, 8:01:21 AM7/30/03
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"CyberCypher" <fra...@seed.net.tw> wrote in message
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Except in BrEnglish, where, if the sentence ends after the parenthesis, a
full stop is required.


Robert Lieblich

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Jul 30, 2003, 11:10:26 AM7/30/03
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Well, then, given that what's inside the parenthesis marks is not an
exclamation in grammatical form[1] but a plain declarative sentence,
and given that it's an off-handed remark, there's no reason in the
world to put a bang, or anything else but the closing parenthesis
mark, after it. So just delete the bang, put a period after the
closing parenthesis mark, and move on.

[1] Proper grammatical form for exclamations, by example:

-- How lovely are thy dwelling places, O Lord!
-- What a piece of work is man!
-- Ouch!
-- Help!

--
Bob Lieblich
Not that anyone pays attention anymore

Alan Jones

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Aug 1, 2003, 7:44:40 AM8/1/03
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"Linz" <sp...@lindsayendell.org.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "CyberCypher" <fra...@seed.net.tw> wrote in message
> news:Xns93C88D3E9...@130.133.1.4...
[...]... this is the way to punctuate it:

> >
> > "I'm merely making my point (and it's a good one!)"
> >
> > no final period outside the parenthesis.
>
> Except in BrEnglish, where, if the sentence ends after the parenthesis, a
> full stop is required.

Not when the sentence/phrase inside the parenthetic brackets has its own
question mark or exclamation mark.

Alan Jones


Linz

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Aug 1, 2003, 9:07:42 AM8/1/03
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"Alan Jones" <a...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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Even when the sentence/phrase inside the parentheses has its own
punctuation, the external sentence requires punctuation.


dcw

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Aug 1, 2003, 9:27:17 AM8/1/03
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In article <3f2a6eec$1...@news.umist.ac.uk>,
Linz <sp...@lindsayendell.org.uk> wrote:

>Even when the sentence/phrase inside the parentheses has its own
>punctuation, the external sentence requires punctuation.

Agreed. The rule I use is that the sentence must still be correctly
punctuated if you remove everything from "(" to ")". Possibly that's
too simple.

David

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