I agree, I though that the comment was lame considering the current state of the
newsgroup.
I doubt though, the spammer is stopping any time soon. For him this is (f)art, he is
expressing himself and trying to find a way to go through all filters you put on your
machines.
The best filter is dropping apas for a while until this blows off.
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, An Metet <anm...@freedom.gmsociety.org> wrote:
>The best filter is dropping apas for a while until this blows off.
You may have noticed that apas is periodically vandalized by trolls
and flooders.
Most "regulars" here have their own filtering tools
to keep the newsgroup readable for themselves.
"Newcomers" arrive naked to a place where the Usenet equivalent of a
full battlefield gear would be advisable, and both bandwidth and
attention may suffer.
In an effort to make your APAS experience more enjoyable,
I opened for public use the NewsServer I read through *myself*
whether at home or from some dial-up when travelling abroad
(i.e. with *my* filtering rules,
I feed from 3 upstream NewsServers
this satisfies *me* and 25-50 regular users so far)
server name: frogadmin.yi.org
port: 119 (standard)
user: (none)
password: (none)
newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
alt.anonymous.messages
local.frog.chat
access: read/write
retention: 90 days
This looked like an interesting by-product of the Frog MailToNews
mail...@frogadmin.yi.org
mail2new...@frogadmin.yi.org
(M2news allows to write to 100.000+ NG)
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FILTERING RULES:
__________________
My objective is to
increase the signal/noise ratio
with a workload sustainable for me
signal:
the technical information
(questions, answers, discussions, announces...)
noise:
flame wars
bashing of software or services
known sources of disinformation
floods
trolls
spam
workload:
I do have a life
increase S/N ratio:
I don't expect to
get a 100% "clean" apas
never eliminate a "valuable" post
_________________
I use all filtering techniques I have at hand, to get to my objective.
I don't care publishing the technical details of the rules.
But it is no mystery that
I filter on both
message headers
(Subject, Author, References, Messager-ID, Newsgroups...)
message body
I try to remove all posts in replies to trolls, or quoting trolls
Banned: Bosc. Cham. Sec.Be. Pang. Cat. Evi.El.
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PERFORMANCE:
2002/10/15: 51 posts
2002/10/16: 63 posts
2002/10/17: 39 posts
2002/10/18: 30 posts
2002/10/19: 30 posts
2002/10/20: 25 posts
as compared to the hundreds messages on an unfiltered server
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Also Related:
WebToNews:
http://frogadmin.yi.org/cgi-bin/dnewsweb.exe
Frog's Support for News
http://frogadmin.yi.org/News/
Enjoy
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> I doubt though, the spammer is stopping any time soon. For him this
> is (f)art, he is expressing himself and trying to find a way to go
> through all filters you put on your machines.
>
I used to think that was the case, but in fact our flooder seems to
deliberately make it possible to filter him. Each flood message
contains a couple of items that make body-filtering easy. These are
things that are deliberately added, either to feed Mr Flooders ego or
to enable that filtering capability. For instance, Frog's News Server
is virtually flood free, the reason is obvious for anyone who cares to
look at the filters that Frog-Admin regularly publishes. Now why does
our flooder, who seems to reap so much delight from destroying this
group, create a major loophole to make it possible to filter him out?
Any psychologists is the house? :)
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Zax <fle...@bananasplit.info> wrote:
>
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> > I doubt though, the spammer is stopping any time soon. For him this
> > is (f)art, he is expressing himself and trying to find a way to go
> > through all filters you put on your machines.
> >
>
> I used to think that was the case, but in fact our flooder seems to
> deliberately make it possible to filter him. Each flood message
> contains a couple of items that make body-filtering easy. These are
> things that are deliberately added, either to feed Mr Flooders ego or
> to enable that filtering capability. For instance, Frog's News Server
> is virtually flood free, the reason is obvious for anyone who cares to
> look at the filters that Frog-Admin regularly publishes. Now why does
> our flooder, who seems to reap so much delight from destroying this
> group, create a major loophole to make it possible to filter him out?
> Any psychologists is the house? :)
Hi Zax!
Do you have any idea what newsreaders allow filtering in the body of
the article?
Richard
- --
R.Christman
Benchmark Software
quick...@skuz.net
http://quicksilver.skuz.net
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QuickSilver wrote:
> Hi Zax!
>
> Do you have any idea what newsreaders allow filtering in the body of
> the article?
Hi Richard!
I would suggest checking out Hamster which is a great little package.
The latest beta release seems very stable and provides loads of
functionality. The main benefit is that it sits between your News
Server and Reader which enables you to retain you favourite reader. I
use XNews as a reader and find it excellent (and free!). It also
provides very good support for multiple sources.
XNews homepage is:
http://xnews.newsguy.com/
This page gives some good Hamster English installation instructions:
http://stealth.kirenet.com/~aleinss/hamster.htm
The latest Hamster download is:
http://hamster.arcornews.de/tgl/hamster/HamsterBeta.23.205.zip
Hope that’s useful,
Zax
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Zax <fle...@bananasplit.info> wrote:
>
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> QuickSilver wrote:
>
> > Hi Zax!
> >
> > Do you have any idea what newsreaders allow filtering in the body of
> > the article?
>
> Hi Richard!
>
> I would suggest checking out Hamster which is a great little package.
> The latest beta release seems very stable and provides loads of
> functionality. The main benefit is that it sits between your News
> Server and Reader which enables you to retain you favourite reader. I
> use XNews as a reader and find it excellent (and free!). It also
> provides very good support for multiple sources.
Hi Zax,
Thanks for this info you and the others who have contributed. I will
keep it for future reference, and I'm sure others will have an interest
in these products as well.
I'm not actually looking for a specific newsreader that allows
filtering in the article body. For myself, I just delete each batch of
flood articles as it comes in. Takes a couple minutes--at most.
What I'm getting at is this--I wonder what general percentage of users
in this group can actually filter these floods, on the body of the
article. I would guess most are using some 'main stream' readers. (Not
to cast aspersions on any reader or other tool that has been brought to
my attention, here.) I use Agent 1.8. I don't think it can filter the
body--as far as I can tell.
Thanks,
Richard
> XNews homepage is:
> http://xnews.newsguy.com/
>
> This page gives some good Hamster English installation instructions:
> http://stealth.kirenet.com/~aleinss/hamster.htm
>
> The latest Hamster download is:
> http://hamster.arcornews.de/tgl/hamster/HamsterBeta.23.205.zip
>
> Hope that’s useful,
>
> Zax
>
Richard
- --
R.Christman
Benchmark Software
quick...@skuz.net
http://quicksilver.skuz.net
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I wonder what motivates someone to spend so much time driving people away from a newsgroup? Perhaps, he is opposed to, or
paid by, people who are opposed to anonymous email.
Or perhaps, the person just knows he can't beat some other person by
using clever arguments and thus has to resort to other methodes of
attacking that person, resulting in flooding, slander and other kinds of
attacks.
I must say that I don't have a problem with that since it inspires me to
find ways around that and I rather have it happen here then in other
parts of usenet that we here might never know about! (I know
alt.religion.scientology has been under similar kinds of attacks, which
led me to believe the Frog and Azerty remailers were being run by the
intelligence wings of the CoS if such a thing even exists).
I can drive people mad and frustrated I know. It happens all the time
and I can't help it or be helped for doing this. It's a decease there is
no good cure for yet, just like stupidity can't be cured yet. At least
not without a near lethal dose of violence that is, and that again is
where I tend to come in. I use my words as a weapon, even if it is
against everything I have learned during my youth and from the Bible.
Thada,
Thomas
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