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Will Opera 7 News Reader get the GNKSA?

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Martin Schrode

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Jun 5, 2002, 12:31:12 PM6/5/02
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The current Opera 6.0x News client sucks pretty bad. Some claim
it's even worse than Outlook Express (now that's hard to believe).

People keep boasting about the new News and E-Mail clients in Opera
7.0. My question: Will the new News client comply to/get "The Good
Net-Keeping Seal of Approval" (GNKSA): http://www.xs4all.nl/~js/gnksa/

The evaluation of Opera 3.0 beta 6 was really poor:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~js/gnksa/Evaluations/opera-3.0b6.txt

Summary
======= Pass Fail Total Pass/Fail%
MUSTs 22 17 39 56%/44%
SHOULDs 9 18 27 33%/67%

I can't find a more up-to-date evaluation, though. So maybe some
issues have been fixed. Right now there is only *one* news client
in that list of almost 80 evaluated News clients/versions that
performs worse than Opera (again, I know the current News client
might suck less) from about 80 listed.

I'd like Opera's News reader to catch up and settle about 95 % or
to be dropped. It's a shame if you look at most postings that were
written with Opera right now.

Frode Gill

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Jun 5, 2002, 2:34:19 PM6/5/02
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Martin Schrode <use...@schrode.net> wrote in
news:gcelda...@schrode.net:

> People keep boasting about the new News and E-Mail clients in Opera
> 7.0. My question: Will the new News client comply to/get "The Good
> Net-Keeping Seal of Approval" (GNKSA): http://www.xs4all.nl/~js/gnksa/

Yes. Perhaps not in 7.0, but defintly by 7.01 or 7.02.

Skimming through the list again, the items that needs some thinking is 7e
and 16c/d/e/f. I'm also not sure if I want to put in support for 13b,
supersede (will it hurt usability more than it will gain functionality?)

Today (yes, today!) I started working on the NNTP code, and if someone
has any thoughts about my current plan on implementing the NNTP
connections system, please speak up __within the next two days__! What
I'm thinking about doing is to have 4 connections where 2 is always
connected (don't post a QUIT), and 2 is only connected when needed (will
post a QUIT if the pending-queue is empty). Requests will be sent to the
first available connection, or put in a pending-queue where a connection
will look for more work if its queue is empty or only contains a QUIT.
With this system, the load can be from 2 connections doing nothing
(minimum), to 4 connections with constant load (maximum).
Any obvious flaws?


XFUT om+n

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Frode Gill

Richard Grevers

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Jun 5, 2002, 7:18:48 PM6/5/02
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In article <Xns9224D144ABEFDfr...@193.69.113.75>, Frode
Gill said...

> Martin Schrode <use...@schrode.net> wrote in
> news:gcelda...@schrode.net:
>
> > People keep boasting about the new News and E-Mail clients in Opera
> > 7.0. My question: Will the new News client comply to/get "The Good
> > Net-Keeping Seal of Approval" (GNKSA): http://www.xs4all.nl/~js/gnksa/
>
> Yes. Perhaps not in 7.0, but defintly by 7.01 or 7.02.
>
> Skimming through the list again, the items that needs some thinking is 7e
> and 16c/d/e/f. I'm also not sure if I want to put in support for 13b,
> supersede (will it hurt usability more than it will gain functionality?)
>

Frode, I relaise that many people have been asking for news to have a
multi-pane view similar to Gravity, agent, Xnews etc. but I hope that
this will not be at the cost of no longer being able to open messages
from different servers simultaneously. This one ability puts Opera way
ahead of most other news clients (most of which can't display more than
one news article at a tiem even from the same server!) despite the lack
of other features.
(Opera.tech re-added for this, I don't follow m&n)

Frode Gill

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Jun 6, 2002, 3:45:41 AM6/6/02
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Richard Grevers <newsfe...@dramatic.co.nz.invalid> wrote:

> Frode, I relaise that many people have been asking for news to have a
> multi-pane view similar to Gravity, agent, Xnews etc. but I hope that
> this will not be at the cost of no longer being able to open messages
> from different servers simultaneously.

This will defintly not change. (But I have no problems opening messages
from different servers simultaneously in Xnews, but in Xnews I have to set
up the server first)

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Frode Gill

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