LOLQs for Winter
Sam Hughes
(numbers are in SI format, with spaces separating groups of three)
Good Job:
Brucie 1 180
Jerry Muelver 568
Spooky Guy Next Door 453
rf 341
Isofarro 317
Jukka K. Korpela 312
Voetleuce 291
Sid Ismail 290
Geoff Ball 279
viza 254
David Dorward 212
The Roving Reporter 140
Kae Verens 139
Don McCahill 123
Tina - AffordableHOST.com 117
Stewart Gordon 102
Try harder in Spring:
Sam Hughes 648
Phil Hayz 98
David Venn-Brown 93
Phil Roberts 87
Denise Enck 86
Bodidly 82
Kris 81
Rock Your World 67
DollarBill 66
Lauri Raittila 64
I probably forgot a few names, and figures are "about" what is shown.
To learn what an LOLQ is, try http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?LOLQ
John L.
"Sam Hughes" <samh...@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:Xns91D8BF9DF7721s...@199.45.49.11...
I've posted about twice in that time, which must mean I'm either living a
healthy, full, and rounded life or I'm a bonehead who never knows the
answer.
rf
> (numbers are in SI format, with spaces separating groups of three)
>
> Good Job:
>
> Brucie 1 180
I'm beginning to think that brucie is in fact a shift working consortium.
Whenever I suddenly arise in the middle of the night in need of a <p> and pass
the computer there he is firing off posts. Nobody could have exactly the same
sleeping habbits as I, even if they do live in Queensland :-)
Cheers
Richard.
Kae Verens
> (numbers are in SI format, with spaces separating groups of three)
>
> Good Job:
>
> Brucie 1 180
> Jerry Muelver 568
> Spooky Guy Next Door 453
> rf 341
> Isofarro 317
> Jukka K. Korpela 312
> Voetleuce 291
> Sid Ismail 290
> Geoff Ball 279
> viza 254
> David Dorward 212
> The Roving Reporter 140
> Kae Verens 139
ooh, look - I have no life!
Aren't you supposed to be quitting Usenet for a year starting five days ago?
http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?Sam_Hughes
Kae
Bodidily
"Kae Verens" <kve...@contactjuggling.org> wrote in message
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Yes. He's going to spend the next year calculating everyones LOLQ's.
BTW - Thats another one for me this Spring =P!
--
Bodidily
Jukka K. Korpela
> LOLQs for the season of Winter (Dec21-Mar20):
Now I learned that "LOLQ stands for 'Lack of Life Quotient.' It is equal
to the number of posts one has made in usenet in general, or in a
specific newsgroup."
The question arises what "quotient" means here. Trivial division by one,
perhaps? I don't think so. I suspect a semantic error. ObURL:
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Quotient.html
As regards to "Life", I always thought it was just a publication (a
magazine). Now, after some Google Groups searches, I've learned that it's
also a computer game! Isn't Usenet wonderful!
> (numbers are in SI format, with spaces separating groups of three)
Ummm... SI is a system of units... yes, I do have a Web page about it,
it's in Finnish, but there are quite a few links to documents in English:
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/SI/1.3.html
The notations of numbers are a different issue, and fall into the area of
"cultural dependencies". ObHTML: when a space is used as a separator,
instead of a normal space is advisable.
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Isofarro
wrote:
>LOLQs for the season of Winter (Dec21-Mar20):
>
>Brucie 1 180
>Jerry Muelver 568
>Spooky Guy Next Door 453
>rf 341
>Isofarro 317
I guess I'll have to stop rewriting stupid FAQ's and pay more
attention... do I still have a chance of making a play-off place?
Iso.
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Sam Hughes
news:Xns91D9D02001FE...@193.229.0.31:
> Sam Hughes <samh...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
>> LOLQs for the season of Winter (Dec21-Mar20):
>
> Now I learned that "LOLQ stands for 'Lack of Life Quotient.' It is
> equal to the number of posts one has made in usenet in general, or in
> a specific newsgroup."
>
> The question arises what "quotient" means here.
Ask Brucie.
> Trivial division by
> one, perhaps? I don't think so. I suspect a semantic error. ObURL:
> http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Quotient.html
Ask Brucie.
> As regards to "Life", I always thought it was just a publication (a
> magazine). Now, after some Google Groups searches, I've learned that
> it's also a computer game! Isn't Usenet wonderful!
>
>> (numbers are in SI format, with spaces separating groups of three)
>
> Ummm... SI is a system of units... yes, I do have a Web page about it,
> it's in Finnish, but there are quite a few links to documents in
> English: http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/SI/1.3.html
>
> The notations of numbers are a different issue, and fall into the area
> of "cultural dependencies".
SI is a system of units, slightly different from the metric system, but it
also has some rules for writing numbers (to prevent confusion about what
3,456 means, etc). See
http://www.a-sp.org/Standards/Stamping/Gen/Gen-6.pdf (PDF format)
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>
> Sam Hughes <samh...@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
> news:Xns91D8BF9DF7721s...@199.45.49.11...
>> LOLQs for the season of Winter (Dec21-Mar20):
>> (numbers are in SI format, with spaces separating groups of three)
>>
>> Good Job:
>>
>> Brucie 1 180
[snip]
>> Kae Verens 139
>
> ooh, look - I have no life!
>
> Aren't you supposed to be quitting Usenet for a year starting five
> days ago? http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?Sam_Hughes
Yes, but at that page I also mentioned that I'd be posting LOLQs.
brucie
Sam Hughes says...
> > The question arises what "quotient" means here.
> Ask Brucie.
don't ask me. words with more than 4 letters make me dizzy
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Jukka K. Korpela
> SI is a system of units, slightly different from the metric system,
Umm... no. The SI system is a true extension of the metric system. But
this gets a bit off-topic and off-subject, does it not?
> but it also has some rules for writing numbers (to prevent confusion
> about what 3,456 means, etc).
No, the rules for numbers are language-specific. What you cite is not an
authoritative source. The authoritative sources on this are international
and national standards. In English, one writes "3.456 m"; in most other
languages, "3,456 m". The unit symbol "m" remains the same; the number
notation varies.
Actuellement, the most _normative_ version of the specification of the SI
system is in French, and French uses a decimal comma. As BIPM says:
"The CIPM decided in 1997 that in the English text the decimal marker
would be the dot on the line, treating this as a translation of the
comma, the French decimal marker. This has no implication for the
translation of the decimal marker into other languages."
http://www.bipm.fr/pdf/brochure-si.pdf#page=9
ObHTML hint: When using less know SI units or other symbols that might be
unknown to many readers, consider using the title="..." attribute to give
a hint, an advisory title. This can be particularly useful for symbols
that might not get correctly displayed on all browsers due to character
problems. Example:
<span title=
"capital omega (Greek letter, used as Ohm symbol)">Ω</span>
(Do _not_ use <abbr> or <acronym> here; it's neither an abbreviation nor
an acronym.)
Kris
In article <Xns91DAA1CE1A35...@193.229.0.31>,
"Jukka K. Korpela" <jkor...@cs.tut.fi> wrote:
> ObHTML hint: When using less know SI units or other symbols that might be
> unknown to many readers, consider using the title="..." attribute to give
> a hint, an advisory title. This can be particularly useful for symbols
> that might not get correctly displayed on all browsers due to character
> problems. Example:
>
> <span title=
> "capital omega (Greek letter, used as Ohm symbol)">Ω</span>
>
> (Do _not_ use <abbr> or <acronym> here; it's neither an abbreviation nor
> an acronym.)
Isn't it a 'defined term'?
<dfn title="capital omega (Greek letter, used as Ohm
symbol)">Ω</dfn>
Jukka K. Korpela
> Isn't it a 'defined term'?
>
> <dfn title="capital omega (Greek letter, used as Ohm
> symbol)">Ω</dfn>
Anything is a defined term, if you provide a _definition_ for it.
The <dfn> element is for use in definitions. Unfortunately, it isn't very
useful there either - and elsewhere it is just misleading. Well,
confusing and wrong, too. On definitions:
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/def.html
Kris
In article <Xns91DACEF61E60...@193.229.0.31>,
"Jukka K. Korpela" <jkor...@cs.tut.fi> wrote:
> Kris <ap...@chello.nl> wrote:
>
> > Isn't it a 'defined term'?
> >
> > <dfn title="capital omega (Greek letter, used as Ohm
> > symbol)">Ω</dfn>
>
> Anything is a defined term, if you provide a _definition_ for it.
>
> The <dfn> element is for use in definitions. Unfortunately, it isn't very
> useful there either - and elsewhere it is just misleading. Well,
> confusing and wrong, too. On definitions:
> http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/def.html
Looks interesting, I will read it. I and a colleague has an ongoing
discussion the other day about everyday occurrences in language and what
those occurrances actually are. Like 1st, 2nd, 3rd (although there are
rules for when to use those and when to use "first", "second" and
"third"), or units like 1 cm, 100 Hz. Somehow we agreed that a lot of
these occurrances are a meaning of themselves and not an abbreviation of
something. Sure, "m" stands for metre and "Hz" stands for Hertz" but
they are not only accepted but also official notations of a term. They
make sense in the context in which they are found; when used separatly,
a megabyte is written as "megabyte", but when used to info someone on
the features of for instance a computer, it is written like "256 mb" or
"256 Mb" (is there a rule for that?).
Last week I was working on a site in which I tried to strictly structure
it's content to what it was and I made the following mistake with a
Dutch postal code:
8923 <abbr title="Postal code">BC</abbr>
This ofcourse has no meaning at all and I want to correct it this monday.
On the other hand, there was an occurrance of a Dutch telephone number
too:
<abbr title="Telephone number">Tel.</abbr>: +31 058 2000 000
Now I wasn't sure if this is an abbreviation, an acronym or a definition
(perhaps the to be read article will prove it), but at least one of
those options seem to be in place. I have my doubts however. If a user
cannot tell if "Tel." (in combination with the number) is short for
"Telephone number", then does the user have any experience with this
type of communication at all? Perhaps I am an example of wanting to
provide too much information....
Jukka K. Korpela
> Like 1st, 2nd, 3rd (although
> there are rules for when to use those and when to use "first",
> "second" and "third"), or units like 1 cm, 100 Hz. Somehow we agreed
> that a lot of these occurrances are a meaning of themselves and not
> an abbreviation of something.
None of the examples you mention is an abbreviation. If you write "3"
instead of "three", it's not an abbreviation; it's a different notation.
And although "cm", for example, originated as an abbreviation ("c" from
"centum", "m" from "meter"), it's now an agreed symbol. The word for
"centimeter" is "senttimetri" in Finnish; yet, we use "cm", since that's
the internationally standardized symbol. In China, they also use "cm",
although their word for "centimeter" is not written in Latin letters at
all.
An abbreviation is something that you get from a word or sequence of
words by omitting letters.
> - - a megabyte is written as "megabyte", but
> when used to info someone on the features of for instance a computer,
> it is written like "256 mb" or "256 Mb" (is there a rule for that?).
Hopefully not. It should be MB or MiB, depending on the intended meaning,
see http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
> <abbr title="Telephone number">Tel.</abbr>: +31 058 2000 000
>
> Now I wasn't sure if this is an abbreviation, an acronym or a
> definition
It's an abbreviation; the markup is correct. However, as you note, its
practical usefulness is questionable.
It would be correct to use <dfn>Tel.</dfn> in a document that explicitly
specifies the meanings of abbreviations like "Tel.". An abbreviation can
be regarded as a term, but <dfn> markup is adequate only when an actual
_definition_ is given. A definition could be as simple as an expansion;
but it needs to be an explicit one, not just an advisory title. Most
probably, the purpose of the document is not to _define_ what "Tel."
means, just use the abbreviation.