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Kbbones2

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Nov 1, 2001, 10:59:22 PM11/1/01
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Its very difficult to find furry spanking art.
If anyone is interested in drawing a few pictures for me, contact me here:
Laughin...@aol.com

Kitryn Edgecrusher

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kbbo...@aol.com (Kbbones2) scribbled on the wall in permanent marker on
01 Nov 2001:

> Its very difficult to find furry spanking art.
> If anyone is interested in drawing a few pictures for me, contact me
> here: Laughin...@aol.com
>

....

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Michael Campbell

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Nov 1, 2001, 11:38:50 PM11/1/01
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Kbbones2 wrote:

Why don't you go look on alt.fetish.sad?


Christopher Hortin

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Nov 2, 2001, 8:12:23 AM11/2/01
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kbbo...@aol.com (Kbbones2) wrote:

>Its very difficult to find furry spanking art.

I feel the same way about furries in underwear. Everyone and their
grandma wants furs that are butt naked and humping each other in a
vat full of tapioca[1], but I find pics of furs wearing underwear
much more attractive. I wish there was a gallery of some kind with
all of them in one place. Perhaps I should make one.

~Chris, the Icicle Child~

[1] Not that there's anything wrong with butt naked furs humping
each other, although I could do without the tapioca.[2]

[2] But then again, tapioca might be your thing, and that's OK too.
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Gabriel Gentile

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Nov 2, 2001, 8:34:46 AM11/2/01
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> Its very difficult to find furry spanking art.
> If anyone is interested in drawing a few pictures for me, contact me here:
> Laughin...@aol.com

I'd like to give this guy a spanking...

On the FACE...

With a CHEESE GRATER!

Jim Hall

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Nov 2, 2001, 10:39:34 AM11/2/01
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Gabriel Gentile wrote:

Gabriel,

Think about what you are posting. Is this guys' fetish really so big a deal
that you want to make violent threats about it?

I'm guessing "probably not".

Farlo

Jim Hall

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Nov 2, 2001, 10:50:15 AM11/2/01
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Michael Campbell wrote:

Michael,

Is that mans' fetish worth posting a nasty comment?

I suppose that if one were looking for it, it might be hard to find
spanking artwork amongst all the bondage and nudie pictures.

His request really isn't that novel, and somebody might earn a buck in a
commission. I see no problem here.

Farlo

Jim Hall

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Nov 2, 2001, 11:01:27 AM11/2/01
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Christopher Hortin wrote:

>kbbo...@aol.com (Kbbones2) wrote:
>
>>Its very difficult to find furry spanking art.
>
>I feel the same way about furries in underwear.

Check out:
http://members.aol.com/MDLight/Main.html

The artwork is usually erotic without being too blunt,
and I like the style. Some implied nudity.

Farlo

Hannah Kincaid

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Nov 2, 2001, 10:20:29 AM11/2/01
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Ersatz the Demented Calliope

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Nov 2, 2001, 12:51:35 AM11/2/01
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Michael Campbell wrote:
>Why don't you go look on alt.fetish.sad?


Hey, folks... quick question...

After Labor Day, Michael Campbell said he was "going into the mountains to
train" in order to reflect on what he was doing with his life and (he
hoped) make himself into a better person...

Does anyone know if Michael gained anything from doing this, or is he still the
same unpleasant malcontent as before?

Just curious...

AJL

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Nov 2, 2001, 12:22:42 PM11/2/01
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Jim Hall wrote:
> Michael,
>
> Is that mans' fetish worth posting a nasty comment?

This is alt.FAN.furry, not a fetish newsgroup. I see nothing wrong with
ridiculing that person's post made in an inappropriate forum.

AJL

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Nov 2, 2001, 12:21:16 PM11/2/01
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Well, here's to hoping that you don't find any.

... I can hope, can't I?

Blackberry

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Nov 2, 2001, 1:42:20 PM11/2/01
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Ooh, dissing other people for *their* strange fetishes. Mr. Pot-kettle, meet
Mr. Glass-house.

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Blackberry

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Nov 2, 2001, 1:46:50 PM11/2/01
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2001 13:12:23 GMT, Christopher wrote:
>
>kbbo...@aol.com (Kbbones2) wrote:
>
>>Its very difficult to find furry spanking art.
>
>I feel the same way about furries in underwear. Everyone and their
>grandma wants furs that are butt naked and humping each other in a
>vat full of tapioca[1], but I find pics of furs wearing underwear
>much more attractive. I wish there was a gallery of some kind with
>all of them in one place. Perhaps I should make one.

There are a couple of YahooGroups for furries in underwear. I don't know the
group names offhand though... if you ask around, you can find them.

DishRoom1

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Nov 2, 2001, 2:21:37 PM11/2/01
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Gabriel Gentile wrote --

Hey, spanking is the least of my fetishisms, too, but I don't go violent nuts
over it.

If you care to see any fur-spanking art, David Bliss has one pic.
Unfourtantely, I forgot the URL to his site at the moment. :-p

John Shughart


Hannah Kincaid

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Nov 2, 2001, 2:58:57 PM11/2/01
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Darrel, perhaps you need the question repeated for you:

"Is it worth posting a nasty comment?"

I'm sure my concept of netiquette differs greatly from yours, but I was
always taught that the proper response to a misinformed post, no matter how
embarassingly misinformed, is a polite redirection to a more approrpriate
forum, with an explanation of the group's history and culture if necessary.
Ridicule and insults, IMHO, are only useful in retaliation to other
rudeness, for the sake of shocking somebody else out of their own
inappropriate behavior...

...geekboy. O:)

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Kitryn Edgecrusher

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Nov 2, 2001, 3:12:36 PM11/2/01
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Michael Campbell <mecamp...@tds.net> scribbled on the wall in

permanent marker on 01 Nov 2001:

>
>

My my. How mature. :X

Kitryn Edgecrusher

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Gabriel Gentile <spook...@earthlink.net> scribbled on the wall in
permanent marker on 02 Nov 2001:

Jeez. Get over it.

Brian Sutton

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Nov 2, 2001, 3:41:13 PM11/2/01
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>Well, here's to hoping that you don't find any.

>... I can hope, can't I?

I do remember a whole story about it done by Bill Fitts a few years ago but I
don't remember what it ran in.

Hmm, now that I think of it I worked on a spanking story written by Joe that
ran in a Radio Comix issue of Genus. It was....silly.

Brian Sutton

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Blackberry

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Nov 2, 2001, 3:37:45 PM11/2/01
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Well, yes, asking him to post in a more appropriate place, like fur.artwork.* or
a.b.p.e.furry would be appropriate, but it was his particular interest that was
picked out and picked on, not his posting habits (and we don't even know if it
is a sexual interest of this person's; he just said he was looking for artwork;
he could work for Vanity Fair or something).

AJL

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Nov 2, 2001, 5:25:41 PM11/2/01
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Blackberry wrote:
> >This is alt.FAN.furry, not a fetish newsgroup. I see nothing wrong with
> >ridiculing that person's post made in an inappropriate forum.
>
> Well, yes, asking him to post in a more appropriate place, like fur.artwork.* or
> a.b.p.e.furry would be appropriate, but it was his particular interest that was
> picked out and picked on, not his posting habits (and we don't even know if it
> is a sexual interest of this person's; he just said he was looking for artwork;
> he could work for Vanity Fair or something).

<grin> VF: All the more reason to ridicule him.

Seriously though... I didn't make the first snide reply... my policy
would have been to let it rest. I only reacted when the first snide
reply got jumped on.

Maybe I shouldn't even have replied to that... or maybe I should have
commented in private EMail.... whatever.

My conclusion is that some people on this group are ready to jump all
over others for the sake of political correctness... and others are
willing to jump all over people for the hell of it. Either way, that's
how flamewars get started.

As far as I'm concerned: subject dropped.

Nox Corax

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Nov 2, 2001, 7:52:21 PM11/2/01
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Try looking for Iron Badger through a search engine. Or try the
search

furry spanking

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Karl Xydexx Jorgensen

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Nov 2, 2001, 9:44:11 PM11/2/01
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AJL wrote:
>I see nothing wrong with ridiculing that person's
>post made in an inappropriate forum.

AFF is an inappropriate forum to request furry art in?

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[1] I see nothing wrong with discussing furry
artwork on AFF, furry erotica, or treating
other people with the same consideration
they show others... but I concede the world
would be a pretty boring place if everyone
liked the same things.

Karl Xydexx Jorgensen

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Nov 2, 2001, 9:54:54 PM11/2/01
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Karl Xydexx Jorgensen wrote:
>AFF is an inappropriate forum to request furry art in?

(Bonus Dr.-Cat-Style Disclaimer: You don't have to like furry erotica to be a
furry fan, but just because you don't like something is no reason to ridicule
other people who like it. Unless you think pissing people off is a fun
hobby... in which case you should move to a more appropriate forum, since it's
alt.FAN.furry, not alt.FLAME.furry...)

Felyne32k

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Nov 2, 2001, 10:27:50 PM11/2/01
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In article <Xns914DD1A...@66.120.4.171>, xydexx@myPONYFEET-
deja.com says...

> Karl Xydexx Jorgensen wrote:
> >AFF is an inappropriate forum to request furry art in?
>
> (Bonus Dr.-Cat-Style Disclaimer: You don't have to like furry erotica to be a
> furry fan, but just because you don't like something is no reason to ridicule
> other people who like it. Unless you think pissing people off is a fun
> hobby... in which case you should move to a more appropriate forum, since it's
> alt.FAN.furry, not alt.FLAME.furry...)
>
You mean the official namechange hasn't gone through yet?
I've been referring to it as the latter for quite a while yet.
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Facetious.

Hannah Kincaid

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Nov 2, 2001, 11:08:01 PM11/2/01
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Wait, wait, wait... You're telling us that it's all right to ridicule
somebody for making an innocent request (remember, you could get away with a
tasteful adult spanking in a PG flick), just because it has some mild
prurient content and the poster isn't familiar with the group's atmosphere,
but just to speak up and say, "Hey, Mike and Gabe, we're tired of you being
jerks," that's excessive? And this is coming from the director of a
CONVENTION!? Wow, I hope the rules of public etiquette at CF aren't that
flexible...

We weren't the first to be quick to take offense, in case you've forgotten.
The whole request for art could have been allowed to just pass, and
absolving Michael of guilt with the ever-lame accusation of "political
correctness" doesn't convince me one bit. If he has the right to insult
every responsible person who's ever given their lover a swat, calling them
"sad," we have the right to tell you we didn't like it, and we're not
obliged to be especially nice when we say it...

...penguin breath. ;)

You're certainly not obliged to continue posting on this thread, and I'm
probably going to drop it myself, but I _don't_ consider the subject
settled. I wouldn't blame anybody else for posting further grief about this.
And this DOES affect my feelings about CF. Sorry.

(For the record, saying, "Hey, you're insulting a group I belong to, and I'm
nothing like that. You're being a jerk." isn't political correctness.
Insisting Darrel and Michael refer to kbbones2 as a "gluteal impact
enthusiast" and lobbying your Senator for paddle subsidies for impoverished
minority perverts... that's PC. :) )

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Jim Hall

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Nov 2, 2001, 11:16:52 PM11/2/01
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Hannah Kincaid wrote:

>we have the right to tell you we didn't like it, and we're not
>obliged to be especially nice when we say it...
>
>...penguin breath. ;)

LOL =)

Farlo

Michael Campbell

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Jim Hall wrote:

> Michael Campbell wrote:
>
> >Kbbones2 wrote:
> >
> >> Its very difficult to find furry spanking art.
> >> If anyone is interested in drawing a few pictures for me, contact me
> >> here: Laughin...@aol.com
> >
> >Why don't you go look on alt.fetish.sad?
>
> Michael,
>
> Is that mans' fetish worth posting a nasty comment?

Well, considering that this is not a fetish-based newsgroup, I would
certainly think so.


Kbbones2

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Nov 3, 2001, 12:09:30 AM11/3/01
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Im looking for Furry spanking drawings.
Where should I go?
Anyone capable of drawing Tails (From Sonic The Hedgohog) getting spanked by
Princess Sally? Or is there somone out there who could draw Slappy Squirrel
spanking her nephew Skippy? (Animaniacs)
Just simple disiplanary spankings.
No sex or arrousel.
Just Tails and Skippy bent over Sally and Slappys knees getting spanked with
hairbrushes. Can anyone draw that for me? I cant draw.

Michael Campbell

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Nov 3, 2001, 12:17:21 AM11/3/01
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Ersatz the Demented Calliope wrote:

> After Labor Day, Michael Campbell said he was "going into the mountains to
> train" in order to reflect on what he was doing with his life and (he
> hoped) make himself into a better person...
>
> Does anyone know if Michael gained anything from doing this, or is he still the
> same unpleasant malcontent as before?
>
> Just curious...
>

Well, seeing as I got you to resort to namecalling by using exactly ONE line, I'd
say I've improved some.


Karl Xydexx Jorgensen

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Nov 3, 2001, 2:07:29 AM11/3/01
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Hannah Kincaid wrote:
>Wait, wait, wait... You're telling us that it's all right to ridicule
>somebody for making an innocent request (remember, you could get away
>with a tasteful adult spanking in a PG flick), just because it has some
>mild prurient content and the poster isn't familiar with the group's
>atmosphere, but just to speak up and say, "Hey, Mike and Gabe, we're
>tired of you being jerks," that's excessive? And this is coming from the
>director of a CONVENTION!? Wow, I hope the rules of public etiquette at
>CF aren't that flexible...

No, no... I'm sure they aren't. After all...

"If people can act civilly in public, then
there's no problem."
---Darrel Exline, 1999

I'm guessing Darrel just thinks he should only needs to concern himself with
the way he acts in public at convention, whereas the sort of impression he
makes on a public newsgroup doesn't matter.

Well, doesn't matter to him, at least.

Gabriel Gentile

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in article 9rvq9b$ir2$1...@raccoon.fur.com, Hannah Kincaid at
post...@lycos.com wrote on 11/2/01 9:08 PM:


> but just to speak up and say, "Hey, Mike and Gabe, we're tired of you being
> jerks," that's excessive?

No, just not very effectual.

Gabriel Gentile

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in article 20011103000930...@mb-fu.aol.com, Kbbones2 at
kbbo...@aol.com wrote on 11/2/01 10:09 PM:

............

It's times like this I'm glad I'm an atheist.

Christopher Hortin

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xyd...@myPONYFEET-deja.com (Karl Xydexx Jorgensen) wrote:

>AJL wrote:
>>I see nothing wrong with ridiculing that person's
>>post made in an inappropriate forum.
>
>AFF is an inappropriate forum to request furry art in?

That's what I'm thinking.

To me, furry art is furry art, regardless of what the furries are
doing. It could a moose sipping a milk shake, a wolf posing nude, a
couple of does expressing anti-hunter sentiments, or a mouse getting
smacked on the ass. If it has anthropomorphic animals in it, then I
consider it furry.

So, someone wants to see some furry spanking, and is possible
willing to pay money to someone to draw it for him/her. So, I like
pics of furry males in underwear. So what? We all have fantasies;
some are just more exciting than others.[1] 8-)

~Chris, the Icicle Child~

[1] I'm strangly reminded of that episode of "Night Court" where Dan
gives the courtroom artist a bag full of Slinkeys, rubber chickens,
and cellophane to use as inspiration for his artwork. 8-)
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Christopher Hortin

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kbbo...@aol.com (Kbbones2) wrote:

[snip requests]


>Can anyone draw that for me? I cant draw.

Have you tried? I've recently been working on my own artwork
recently, and while I haven't drawn anything that I would consider
posting on the net, I've found that I'm a better artist than I
thought I was. Perhaps if you tried, you might surprise youself. 8-)

~Chris, the Icicle Child~ (who's also been working on his furry
fiction in a small town, 'cause I can write better than I draw. But
I haven't given up on the art thing yet.)
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Jim Hall

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Nov 3, 2001, 11:17:39 AM11/3/01
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Michael Campbell wrote:

This is an artwork-centered group, and the poster was requesting a
commission for some artwork. Plus, he wanted something bondage-related, and
artists in this fandom have been known to produce a bondage pic or two.

So, do you still think that his request was unreasonable?

Farlo

Charles Melville

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Nov 3, 2001, 11:34:03 AM11/3/01
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Gabriel Gentile wrote:

> It's times like this I'm glad I'm an atheist.

No no no!!! The line goes...

"It's at times like this that I thank God I'm an atheist."
(Michael Stivick, "All In The Family")

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Charles Melville

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Nov 3, 2001, 11:36:18 AM11/3/01
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Kbbones2 wrote:

> Im looking for Furry spanking drawings.
> Where should I go?

The point being gently made -- and not so gently -- is that you don't look
here. It's an insult, and not what the group is about. Best to look on one of
the furry sex art groups, if you must.

Karl Xydexx Jorgensen

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Nov 3, 2001, 12:54:15 PM11/3/01
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Christopher Hortin wrote:
>To me, furry art is furry art, regardless of what the furries are
>doing. It could a moose sipping a milk shake, a wolf posing nude, a
>couple of does expressing anti-hunter sentiments, or a mouse getting
>smacked on the ass. If it has anthropomorphic animals in it, then I
>consider it furry.

Exactly. One wonders if Darrel Exline would be so quick to jump to Michael
Campbell's defense had Michael told someone requesting, say, a picture of an
anthropomorphic animal praying, to go post his message on alt.religion.sad?
AFF isn't a religious newsgroup, but I don't think such a request would deserve
ridicule, since the bottom line is it's still a request for furry art.

>So, someone wants to see some furry spanking, and is possible
>willing to pay money to someone to draw it for him/her. So, I like
>pics of furry males in underwear. So what? We all have fantasies;
>some are just more exciting than others.[1] 8-)

Maybe some people are just more comfortable with their fantasies than others.

I remember a few years back when it was possible to discuss commissioned
artwork on AFF without getting nailed to a cross for it. People were more
civil back then, I guess. Indeed, it seems having respect for your fellow
furry fans is a point that seems to have been missed completely. Darrel seems
more interested in defending Michael Campbell's poor behavior instead of
acknowledging that going around insulting other furry fans doesn't really
improve the fandom for anyone.

It's kinda unfortunate to see the director of a furry convention unable to live
up to the standard he supposedly wants to set for others.

>[1] I'm strangly reminded of that episode of "Night Court" where Dan
>gives the courtroom artist a bag full of Slinkeys, rubber chickens,
>and cellophane to use as inspiration for his artwork. 8-)

Anyone know where I can get artwork of an anthropomorphic jellyfish dressed in
Slinkeys, rubber chickens, and cellophane? -=)

Dr. Cat

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Nov 3, 2001, 4:09:07 PM11/3/01
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AJL <grap...@ajlvideo.com> wrote:
: This is alt.FAN.furry, not a fetish newsgroup. I see nothing wrong with

: ridiculing that person's post made in an inappropriate forum.

Fair enough. I see nothing wrong with ridiculing this post, as it happens!

"....so, does this mean we'll finally see an end to the sale of furry
spanking art in the Confurence dealer's room and art show? Thank god!"

: As far as I'm concerned: subject dropped.

Ooops, I was too hasty. Consider my ridicule dropped.

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Dr. Cat

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Christopher Hortin <icicl...@earthlink.net> wrote:
: To me, furry art is furry art, regardless of what the furries are

: doing. It could a moose sipping a milk shake, a wolf posing nude, a
: couple of does expressing anti-hunter sentiments, or a mouse getting
: smacked on the ass. If it has anthropomorphic animals in it, then I
: consider it furry.

We don't take kindly to moose sipping milkshake art 'round here.

Y'all take your disgusting moose-shakeooge talk elsewhere, y'hear?

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Dr. Cat

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Karl Xydexx Jorgensen <xydexx_sq...@socylbackwards.com> wrote:
: Anyone know where I can get artwork of an anthropomorphic jellyfish dressed in
: Slinkeys, rubber chickens, and cellophane? -=)

Suprisingly enough, I do. I can't tell you though. I'm already in danger
of getting banned from Confurence for having spoken to the press without
talking to Darrel first. I don't want to run afoul of this new problem
too and get double-banned, 'cause then I'd sit around all night thinking
"Do they cancel each other out and I can go? Or do I have to stay twice
as far away and move from Texas to the east coast? Or what?"

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Nov 3, 2001, 4:24:34 PM11/3/01
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Gabriel Gentile <spook...@earthlink.net> wrote:
: I'd like to give this guy a spanking...

: On the FACE...

: With a CHEESE GRATER!

Now Gabriel, remember your doctor told you to avoid things that cause you
intense UltraStress (tm) for the sake of your blood pressure. We wouldn't
want you to have a nasty embolism, now would we?

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furries. Ooooh, look at it go now!)

Christopher Hortin

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"Dr. Cat" <c...@sullivan.realtime.net> wrote:
[snip]

>We don't take kindly to moose sipping milkshake art 'round here.
>
Kiss my furry ass! 8-P"

>Y'all take your disgusting moose-shakeooge talk elsewhere, y'hear?
>

Nope. And while I'm at it, I also have a penchant for lemurs in pink
bows and ocelots dancing the macarena.

~Chris, the Icicle Child~
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Christopher Hortin

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Nov 3, 2001, 5:34:59 PM11/3/01
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"Dr. Cat" <c...@sullivan.realtime.net> wrote:
[snip]
>(Disclaimer: The way that bulgy vein looks throbbing on his
>forehead is kinda cute though, isn't it? Spanking furries,
>spanking furries, spanking furries. Ooooh, look at it go now!)

I like the way you think. 8-)

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Gabriel Gentile

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> (Disclaimer: The way that bulgy vein looks throbbing on his forehead is
> kinda cute though, isn't it? Spanking furries, spanking furries, spanking
> furries. Ooooh, look at it go now!)

Somehow the idea of you finding throbbing veins stimulating doesn't surprise
me, "Doc".

Karl Xydexx Jorgensen

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Nov 3, 2001, 8:39:42 PM11/3/01
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Dr. Cat wrote:

>Karl Xydexx Jorgensen wrote:
>: Anyone know where I can get artwork of an anthropomorphic jellyfish
>: dressed in Slinkeys, rubber chickens, and cellophane? -=)
>
>Suprisingly enough, I do. I can't tell you though.

Awww? I think anthropomorphic jellyfish artwork has for years been seriously
underappreciated and underrepresented in the fandom. It's like a character
right from the Island Of The Misfit Toys in Rudolph's Christmas Special...
everyone likes cuddly animals like foxes and wolves and lions and tigers and
bears, but nobunny wuvs anthropomorphic jellyfish...

*snif*



>I'm already in danger of getting banned from Confurence for having
>spoken to the press without talking to Darrel first. I don't want
>to run afoul of this new problem too and get double-banned, 'cause
>then I'd sit around all night thinking "Do they cancel each other
>out and I can go? Or do I have to stay twice as far away and move
>from Texas to the east coast? Or what?"

Of course, if you moved to the east coast, you'd be much closer to me, which
would increase the chances of us going places like Centralia and having all
kinds of other wacky adventures.

Rebecca Gallant

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Nov 3, 2001, 10:40:50 PM11/3/01
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What about that zine "Dainties"? I forget who put it together, but it's
a collection of artwork of furries in nighties and lingerie.
-Becky

Christopher Hortin wrote:

> kbbo...@aol.com (Kbbones2) wrote:
>
> >Its very difficult to find furry spanking art.
>

> I feel the same way about furries in underwear. Everyone and their
> grandma wants furs that are butt naked and humping each other in a
> vat full of tapioca[1], but I find pics of furs wearing underwear
> much more attractive. I wish there was a gallery of some kind with
> all of them in one place. Perhaps I should make one.
>
> ~Chris, the Icicle Child~

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Rebecca Gallant

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Nov 3, 2001, 10:43:10 PM11/3/01
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I put "spanking" in at http://www.fursearch.com and there seems to be a lot to
look through. Hope that helps!
-Becky

Kbbones2 wrote:

> Its very difficult to find furry spanking art.

> If anyone is interested in drawing a few pictures for me, contact me here:
> Laughin...@aol.com

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Nov 4, 2001, 2:14:47 AM11/4/01
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On 3 Nov 2001 02:44:11 GMT, Karl Xydexx Jorgensen
<xyd...@myPONYFEET-deja.com> wrote:

[...]

> AFF is an inappropriate forum to request furry art in?
>

> --
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>

> [1] I see nothing wrong with discussing furry

Unrefrenced footnote, core dumped.

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Brian Sutton

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Nov 4, 2001, 3:06:11 PM11/4/01
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>And while I'm at it, I also have a penchant for...
>ocelots dancing the macarena.

>~Chris, the Icicle Child~

Saw that happen once at a Confurence, the discription alone haunts Adam Warren
to this day.


Brian Sutton

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Felyne32k

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Nov 4, 2001, 3:24:47 PM11/4/01
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In article <3BE4B8C2...@wildlife-fantasy.com>, becky@wildlife-
fantasy.com says...

> What about that zine "Dainties"? I forget who put it together, but it's
> a collection of artwork of furries in nighties and lingerie.
> -Becky
>
/Dainties/ is put out by Silvermane Liger. Unfortunately, it does
not have an entry in the SIL of 'zines, because he has not been able to
get back to me as of yet (or just lost my email, which is entirely
possible).
It can be found here:

http://www.fysh.org/~liger/Fanzine.html

There is also a publication called /Viktoria's Secret/. It used to be put
out by Pelzig, but is not under his direction anymore (to my knowledge).
I am tracking this one down at the present time.

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Pelzig

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Nov 4, 2001, 6:46:45 PM11/4/01
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From: bsu77...@aol.com (Brian Sutton)

>Saw that happen once at a Confurence, the discription alone >haunts Adam
Warren to this day.

Oh? I'll have to remember this one. ;)

TCASF,

Pelzig

The Saprophyte

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Nov 4, 2001, 6:58:10 PM11/4/01
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Michael Campbell wrote:
>
> Jim Hall wrote:
>
> > Michael Campbell wrote:
> >
> > >Kbbones2 wrote:
> > >
> > >> Its very difficult to find furry spanking art.
> > >> If anyone is interested in drawing a few pictures for me, contact me
> > >> here: Laughin...@aol.com
> > >
> > >Why don't you go look on alt.fetish.sad?
> >
> > Michael,
> >
> > Is that mans' fetish worth posting a nasty comment?
>
> Well, considering that this is not a fetish-based newsgroup, I would
> certainly think so.


The nice folks at Websters would disagree with you.
Which explains all those vixen figurenes by Gault, Kathmandu, etc.
Sympathetic hunting magic, donchaknow. :)
(Hey, Never let it be said that fanboys don't rely on their charms);)

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Nov 4, 2001, 7:05:10 PM11/4/01
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Karl Xydexx Jorgensen wrote:
>
> Dr. Cat wrote:
> >Karl Xydexx Jorgensen wrote:
> >: Anyone know where I can get artwork of an anthropomorphic jellyfish
> >: dressed in Slinkeys, rubber chickens, and cellophane? -=)
> >
> >Suprisingly enough, I do. I can't tell you though.
>
> Awww? I think anthropomorphic jellyfish artwork has for years been seriously
> underappreciated and underrepresented in the fandom. It's like a character
> right from the Island Of The Misfit Toys in Rudolph's Christmas Special...
> everyone likes cuddly animals like foxes and wolves and lions and tigers and
> bears, but nobunny wuvs anthropomorphic jellyfish...
>
(snip)

http://www.ucomics.com/boundandgagged/viewtmbou.cfm?uc_full_date=20010829&uc_comic=tmbou&uc_daction=X


The Saprophyte, squishy, occasionally stinging, and all wet.

Karl Xydexx Jorgensen

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aka ? the Platypus) wrote:
>Unrefrenced footnote, core dumped.

That portion of the post is only available on the director's cut. -=)

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Blackberry

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On 3 Nov 2001 02:44:11 GMT, xyd...@myPONYFEET-deja.com wrote:
>
>AJL wrote:
>>I see nothing wrong with ridiculing that person's
>>post made in an inappropriate forum.
>
>AFF is an inappropriate forum to request furry art in?

He didn't request that people *post* art; he just wanted some pointers on where
to find some. Surely, artwork must be at least some portion of "furry fandom",
which is what alt.fan.furry covers.

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Blackberry

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Nov 5, 2001, 12:00:50 PM11/5/01
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On 03 Nov 2001 05:09:30 GMT, kbbo...@aol.com wrote:
>
>Im looking for Furry spanking drawings.
>Where should I go?
>Anyone capable of drawing Tails (From Sonic The Hedgohog) getting spanked by
>Princess Sally? Or is there somone out there who could draw Slappy Squirrel
>spanking her nephew Skippy? (Animaniacs)
>Just simple disiplanary spankings.
>No sex or arrousel.
>Just Tails and Skippy bent over Sally and Slappys knees getting spanked with
>hairbrushes. Can anyone draw that for me? I cant draw.

Try asking in the VCL forum as well. Many budding artists read the forum and
might give your topic a try for some practice work.

Charles Melville

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Nov 5, 2001, 1:54:46 PM11/5/01
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The Saprophyte wrote:

> Michael Campbell wrote:
> >
> > Jim Hall wrote:
> >
> > > Michael Campbell wrote:
> > >
> > > >Kbbones2 wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Its very difficult to find furry spanking art.
> > > >> If anyone is interested in drawing a few pictures for me, contact me
> > > >> here: Laughin...@aol.com
> > > >
> > > >Why don't you go look on alt.fetish.sad?
> > >
> > > Michael,
> > >
> > > Is that mans' fetish worth posting a nasty comment?
> >
> > Well, considering that this is not a fetish-based newsgroup, I would
> > certainly think so.
>
> The nice folks at Websters would disagree with you.
> Which explains all those vixen figurenes by Gault, Kathmandu, etc.
> Sympathetic hunting magic, donchaknow. :)
> (Hey, Never let it be said that fanboys don't rely on their charms);)

Which, it must be pointed out, are not on -this- newsgroup... as this is
not a binary ng.

Nakira

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Christopher Hortin

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Nakira <nak...@home.com> wrote:

>http://www.furnation.com/wookiee/gallery/1996/W_15_16_17.jpg
>
Why don't I ever get invited to parties like that?

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The Saprophyte

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Nov 5, 2001, 9:56:49 PM11/5/01
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Charles Melville wrote:
>
> The Saprophyte wrote:
>
> > Michael Campbell wrote:
(snip)

> > > Well, considering that this is not a fetish-based newsgroup, I would
> > > certainly think so.
> >
> > The nice folks at Websters would disagree with you.
> > Which explains all those vixen figurenes by Gault, Kathmandu, etc.
> > Sympathetic hunting magic, donchaknow. :)
> > (Hey, Never let it be said that fanboys don't rely on their charms);)
>
> Which, it must be pointed out, are not on -this- newsgroup... as this is
> not a binary ng.


Fetish 2. Any object of special or unreasoning devotion.

"Crowds...go wild over the catchwords and formulas that

happen to be popular fetishes" F.H. Giddings

Fetishism Devotion to or belief in fetishes; the practice of
fetish worship; also, the religious or intellectual
stage in which this is characteristic.

- Webster's New International Dictionary, edition of 1920

Misleading levity aside, sounds like the definition of a fandom to me.

The Saprophyte

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Kbbones2

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Nov 6, 2001, 1:26:24 AM11/6/01
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I would like to thank you all for your help, links and ideas. I found a good
bit of spanking material with that link Becky posted, so extra thanks to her.

Dr. Cat

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Nov 7, 2001, 2:44:40 PM11/7/01
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Christopher Hortin <icicl...@earthlink.net> wrote:

: "Dr. Cat" <c...@sullivan.realtime.net> wrote:
: [snip]
:>We don't take kindly to moose sipping milkshake art 'round here.
:>
: Kiss my furry ass! 8-P"

Surprisingly, there is actually furry art of that sort of thing, and
it's not the sort of problem that moose/milkshake stuff is.


:>Y'all take your disgusting moose-shakeooge talk elsewhere, y'hear?


:>
: Nope. And while I'm at it, I also have a penchant for lemurs in pink
: bows and ocelots dancing the macarena.

As long as the pink bows are consenting adult pink bows, I don't really
have a problem with this either.

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Revolution, I'd just go nuts for that!)

Dr. Cat

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Hey! Isn't that off-topic for this newsgroup?

...oh wait, never mind, it isn't. Carry on.

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three in the back there, stop that! That's too much carrying on!)

Dr. Cat

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Nov 7, 2001, 5:05:22 PM11/7/01
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Charles Melville <cp...@zipcon.com> wrote:
: The Saprophyte wrote:
:> Which explains all those vixen figurenes by Gault, Kathmandu, etc.

:> Sympathetic hunting magic, donchaknow. :)

: Which, it must be pointed out, are not on -this- newsgroup... as this is
: not a binary ng.

Yes, they're not on the newsgroup, but I fail to see the relevance. The
guy asking for furry spanking art didn't ask for binaries to be posted to
this newsgroup of them, nor did he post any binaries. The people replying
to him with web page links and names of artists to check didn't post any
binaries nor ask anyone else to post them. So where's the problem?

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(Disclaimer: The actual problem is that I don't have enough Michelle Gault
sculptures. I'll see what I can do about that.)

Don Sanders

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Nov 7, 2001, 5:30:28 PM11/7/01
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In article <3be9a...@feed1.realtime.net>, c...@sullivan.realtime.net
says...

> (Disclaimer: Um, I meant "carry on" as in continue, not as in... Hey you
> three in the back there, stop that! That's too much carrying on!)
>
o/" Carrion my vulture son, road kill meat is highway done, baking in
the noonday sun, pass the Tabasco sauce." o/

Oh, you mean carry on, sorry have not posted in a while. :)

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Jim Hall

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Nov 7, 2001, 8:10:08 PM11/7/01
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Dr. Cat wrote:

>The people replying
>to him with web page links and names of artists to check didn't post any
>binaries nor ask anyone else to post them. So where's the problem?

... in Chuck's head? This newsgroup is like one big, extremely
dysfunctional family. There's the icons of normality (that'd be ME, of
course), and then there's the obsessive types like Chuck. You, Dr. Cat,
aren't a bad sort, 'cept for the banannas. You just can't trust a cat with
a bannana, or bad spellers either.

And, while the "royal we" (as in "me") are discussing dysfuntionality and
media, I saw K'Pax today. Not furry, but deals with an "alien", which
overlaps quite a bit with fandom concepts. Good movie.

Farlo

PS
You can always trust small dragons with bannanas, because you know exactly
what they'd do with one. Maybe two or three. Okay, a dozen.

Jim Hall

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Nov 7, 2001, 8:10:43 PM11/7/01
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Don Sanders wrote:

>Oh, you mean carry on, sorry have not posted in a while. :)

DON!!! Welcome back! =:)

Farlo

Charles Melville

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Nov 9, 2001, 12:39:45 AM11/9/01
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"Dr. Cat" wrote:

> Charles Melville <cp...@zipcon.com> wrote:
> : The Saprophyte wrote:
> :> Which explains all those vixen figurenes by Gault, Kathmandu, etc.
> :> Sympathetic hunting magic, donchaknow. :)
>
> : Which, it must be pointed out, are not on -this- newsgroup... as this is
> : not a binary ng.
>
> Yes, they're not on the newsgroup, but I fail to see the relevance. The
> guy asking for furry spanking art didn't ask for binaries to be posted to
> this newsgroup of them, nor did he post any binaries. The people replying
> to him with web page links and names of artists to check didn't post any
> binaries nor ask anyone else to post them. So where's the problem?

The relevance goes to the quotes preceding the one you pasted above:

> > > Is that mans' fetish worth posting a nasty comment?
> >
> > Well, considering that this is not a fetish-based newsgroup, I would
> > certainly think so.
>
> The nice folks at Websters would disagree with you.

> Which explains all those vixen figurenes by Gault, Kathmandu, etc.
> Sympathetic hunting magic, donchaknow. :)

> (Hey, Never let it be said that fanboys don't rely on their charms);)

...which implies that this is a newsgroup that -features- fetish art, as
opposed to discussing it. When, in fact, this is not a newsgroup that features
-any- art at all. Note that at this stage no one is directly answering the
original question of where it can be found or whether it is even a valid topic for
discussion, but has digressed to where someone is defending the terminology by
listing the kind of art done by some furry artists, and giving a mistaken
impression that such art is actually found here. Therefore, my correction.

Kbbones2

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Nov 10, 2001, 1:12:27 AM11/10/01
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You can hope AJL, but it wont work, Ive already found some.

Furry Spanking!

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Nov 10, 2001, 1:57:50 PM11/10/01
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Michael Campbell wrote:
>Well, seeing as I got you to resort to namecalling by using exactly ONE
>line, I'd say I've improved some.

Seeing as how you still resort to namecalling without any provacation at all,
it's obvious you haven't. All that "going to the mountains to train", all
wasted. Such a pity.

Hope you get it right next time!

Dr. Cat

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Nov 11, 2001, 9:37:57 AM11/11/01
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Don Sanders <noo...@myemail.com> wrote:
: o/" Carrion my vulture son, road kill meat is highway done, baking in
: the noonday sun, pass the Tabasco sauce." o/

Now that's comedy.

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Christopher Hortin

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Nov 11, 2001, 4:39:58 PM11/11/01
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"Dr. Cat" <c...@sullivan.realtime.net> wrote:
>Don Sanders <noo...@myemail.com> wrote:

>: o/" Carrion my vulture son, road kill meat is highway done,
>: baking in the noonday sun, pass the Tabasco sauce." o/
>
>Now that's comedy.
>

Certainly so. 8-)

>(Disclaimer: It's only one example though, don't think ALL
>comedy has to be just like that. There's other kinds too.)

Like this?

<the Iciclechild tosses a huge creme pie into Dr. Cat's face.
*SPLAT!!!*>

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LaughingMan008

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Nov 12, 2001, 12:54:22 AM11/12/01
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>Try looking for Iron Badger through a search engine.

I contacted Iron Badger.
This is his response:

Well, first.
Thank you for the comments on my art.
But I do have to inform you that I do not ever, under
any circumstances draw copyrighted characters other
than my own, or underage characters in any adult
situations whatsoever.
(Drawing Skippy in such a situation would come under
the second definition, according to what I have been
told about the legal definition of kiddie porn, which
is both highly illegal, and which I do NOT approve
of.)

Sorry to turn you down cold in such a fashion, but
since these requests entail illegal activities which I
would never engage in for any reason, please do not
ask me again.
Steve.

Its not illegal! I know its not! Can someone talk to him and let him know that
my requests weren't illegal?

Christopher Hortin

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Nov 12, 2001, 7:45:18 AM11/12/01
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laughin...@aol.com (LaughingMan008) wrote:

[snip the rejection]


>Its not illegal! I know its not! Can someone talk to him and
>let him know that my requests weren't illegal?

Regardless of whether or not it's actually illegal, he's already
givin you an answer. He's not interested, and if you push it, you're
just going to make him mad.

~Chris, the Icicle Child~
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Pelzig

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Nov 12, 2001, 9:40:29 AM11/12/01
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From: laughin...@aol.com :

>Its not illegal! I know its not! Can someone talk >to him and let him know
>that
>my requests weren't illegal?

Drawing copyrighted characters, without the express permission of the copyright
holder _IS_ illegal.

Are _you_ going to deal with the high power lawyers companies like Disney, WB,
etc. can throw at you? I don't know how long you have been around the fandom,
but Disney and others _have_ cracked down on artists and art sites for having
such work. They get even madder when the work was a paid commission ( meaning,
they got nothing for the use of their character ).

I suggest you respect Iron Badger's words and his rules. Every artist has them,
some more strict than others.

TCASF,

Pelzig


LaughingMan008

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Nov 13, 2001, 12:12:32 AM11/13/01
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Its only illegal if you charge money for the drawings.
I am leaving him alone.
If he doesn't want to draw for me, thats okay. Im not going to harass or
preasure him into doing it.
I just want someone to explaine to him that my request was legal.
You can draw copyrighted characters doing anything, and as long as you dont
charge money for the drawing, its legal.

LaughingMan008

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Nov 13, 2001, 12:19:10 AM11/13/01
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Oh, just so you know.
It seems that Light*Wolf will be drawing my requests.

Dr. Cat

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Nov 13, 2001, 12:48:24 PM11/13/01
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LaughingMan008 <laughin...@aol.com> wrote:
: Its only illegal if you charge money for the drawings.
[snip]
: You can draw copyrighted characters doing anything, and as long as you dont

: charge money for the drawing, its legal.

That's a commonly held misconception.

It's not actually TRUE, but a lot of people think it is.

Copyright covers the right to copy things. For free or for money. If the
copyright holder hasn't granted permission to copy something, you can't
legally copy it, modify it, or create a "derivative work" of it.

*-------------------------------------------**-----------------------------*
Dr. Cat / Dragon's Eye Productions || Free alpha test:
*-------------------------------------------** http://www.furcadia.com
Furcadia - a graphic mud for PCs! || Let your imagination soar!
*-------------------------------------------**-----------------------------*

(Disclaimer: Not that this'll stop fandoms from doing "fan art" of
characters ever, but hey.)

Rick Pikul

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In article <20011112094029...@mb-mv.aol.com>,
pel...@aol.com.nospam says...

> From: laughin...@aol.com :
>
>
>
> >Its not illegal! I know its not! Can someone talk >to him and let him know
> >that
> >my requests weren't illegal?
>
> Drawing copyrighted characters, without the express permission of the copyright
> holder _IS_ illegal.

That depends, many jurisdictions do not grant character copyright.

> Are _you_ going to deal with the high power lawyers companies like Disney, WB,
> etc. can throw at you? I don't know how long you have been around the fandom,
> but Disney and others _have_ cracked down on artists and art sites for having
> such work.

They send threatening C&Ds, nothing more, (Disney doesn't even do
that anymore).

> They get even madder when the work was a paid commission ( meaning,
> they got nothing for the use of their character ).

Trademark law comes in at this point, trading under another's
trademark is a big no-no.

> I suggest you respect Iron Badger's words and his rules. Every artist has them,
> some more strict than others.

I agree that it's the artist who has final say on what he/she
does.

To take a page from my 'filters don't censor you' bit: An artist
can refuse to draw anything with a w in its name if he wants.

--
Phoenix

The Saprophyte

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Dec 4, 2001, 12:11:07 AM12/4/01
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Charles Melville wrote:

My modem conveniently died on me immediately after my last post, so you will,
I hope, forgive me if I put this particular ball briefly back in play, moot point
though
it be.(a month's worth of headers unread, 90% of them Taura related.... *whimper*)

Since the subject was broached, it should be pointed out that Steve Gallacci doesn't
post issues of albedo here either. nor does Warner brothers post cartoons, or Brian
Jacques and Mercedes Lackey their novels, yet all are discussed here.
The obvious response is "But those are appropriate subjects for discussion here that
have nothing to do with fetishes."
Ah, says I, then this group is about interstellar warfare, medieval abbeys, seasonal
hunting laws, high adventure, low comedy, romance, etc.?
To which one says, "No, its about general discussion of anthropomorphic animals in
media."
And I say _Exactly_. The poster specifically requested _furry_ spanking material.
Would the request have been more appropriate elsewhere? Most likely. Was it off topic
for this newsgroup? Not in the least. I would expect furry spanking art to meet the
qualification of anthropomorphic animals in media as surely as I would expect a nude
vixen sculpture to.
As for the original point of contention, it was stated that aff was not a fetish based
group.
In order to have a discussion, you must first have a basis for discussion. Given the
prior common definition of the word fetish on the one hand, and an all too broad
sampling of furry creative work on the other, (fannish, anyways) the aforementioned
statement is at least partially in error, hence my observation.
I'm sure I don't also have to explain the concept of the emoticon to you, BTW.

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The Saprophyte
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If clones are outlawed, only outlaws will have clones

The Saprophyte

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Dec 4, 2001, 12:57:36 AM12/4/01
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Jim Hall wrote:

(Snip)

> You, Dr. Cat,
> aren't a bad sort, 'cept for the banannas. You just can't trust a cat with
> a bannana, or bad spellers either.
>

This raises the question, what would a cat do with a bad speller? Do cats like
bad spellers? Would a toy mouse stuffed with ground-up bad spellers be an
appropriate christmas gift for my brother's cats? Can I substitute lousy
grammarians? Is either better or worse than a mouse full of ground-up
bananas?

>
> PS
> You can always trust small dragons with bannanas, because you know exactly
> what they'd do with one. Maybe two or three. Okay, a dozen.

Just because bananas are shiny and yellow like gold does _not_ mean they make
good nesting material. Unless you like to eat in bed. Which might explain your
Pikachu obsession.

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If cloning is outlawed, only outlaws will have clones.

Jim Hall

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Dec 4, 2001, 12:58:37 AM12/4/01
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The Saprophyte wrote:

>Just because bananas are shiny and yellow like gold does _not_ mean they
>make good nesting material.

*Grin*

>Unless you like to eat in bed. Which might
>explain your Pikachu obsession.

Pikachu, bar-B-que, same difference ... =;)

Farlo =:)

ilr

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Dec 4, 2001, 1:44:20 AM12/4/01
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"The Saprophyte" <Normd...@nolocale.com> wrote in message news:3C0C5AEB...@nolocale.com...
>

That was my whole Thought process on that matter too. We use adult language
here when we want, and it's not uncomman to read situations of explicit violence
from these same posters who protest the Fetishes so much. What's the big deal?
For the animal mind...
(...or sometimes called the Reptillian Mind) violence and sex are one in the same,
Especially for Sapiens spawned from the most aggressive Chimpanzies that would
often War with weaker colonies and batter&rape the females of those colonies
as well as the ones in their own colonies.

Conquest = Subconcious Arousal, or Preparedness for said arousal.

Just because you're a Conservative, doesn't mean you're not still part of
Mother Nature's Orgy. But Personally, between those two "power playing"
I'd prefer the spanking since it's not so exclusionary and mean-spirited.

-Ilr, who STILL wants to stick it to AJL with a Political Drawing on the subject.


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