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Bjoern Braendewall

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Dec 19, 2000, 7:07:13 AM12/19/00
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I wish that the e-mail signature was visible and
editable when composing the mail, like in Netscape Messenger.


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Frode Gill

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Dec 19, 2000, 7:23:30 AM12/19/00
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Bjoern Braendewall <brand...@net-on.com> wrote:

(Quoted the whole message, to show my point)
I wish Opera would force a legal signature delimeter ('-- \n'), and warn
agains wrongly formatted (80*4 characters) signatures, at least when
posting to nntp. (And when we're at it, I wish Opera had a perfect score
on GNKSA)

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Rijk van Geijtenbeek

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Dec 19, 2000, 4:03:32 PM12/19/00
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On 19 Dec 2000 12:23:30 GMT, frode...@agresso.no (Frode Gill) wrote:

>[....] (And when we're at it, I wish Opera had a perfect score
>on GNKSA)

I don't. It's ok if Opera gives a warning when I do something stupid
like posting without a subject line, but it shouldn't make it
impossible to do such stupid things. IMO! GNKSA isn't a standard.

So I don't want a perfect score. But I'd really like Opera to comply
with *most* of the requirements.

References for interested readers:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~js/gnksa/
and
http://www.xs4all.nl/~js/gnksa/Evaluations/opera-3.0b6.txt

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still shambles about the earth wreaking a horrific vengeance upon the
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Frode Gill

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Dec 20, 2000, 4:13:13 AM12/20/00
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Rijk van Geijtenbeek <ri...@iname.com> wrote:

>On 19 Dec 2000 12:23:30 GMT, frode...@agresso.no (Frode Gill) wrote:
>
>>[....] (And when we're at it, I wish Opera had a perfect score
>>on GNKSA)
>
>I don't. It's ok if Opera gives a warning when I do something stupid
>like posting without a subject line, but it shouldn't make it
>impossible to do such stupid things.

Outlook Express has almost destroyed quite a few norwegian usenet-groups,
and is causeing harm on a general basis, because of all the standard-
violations and all the stupid things it let the users do and post. Can
you give me one good reason for posting without a subject line?


>IMO! GNKSA isn't a standard.

No, it is not a standard. If it was, I would have *demanded* Opera to
follow it ;-)
But GNKSA is a well-defined set of rules, and if all newsreaders followed
them there would be a lot less problems with postings on usenet.

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Frode Gill

Rijk van Geijtenbeek

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Dec 20, 2000, 9:29:13 AM12/20/00
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On 20 Dec 2000 09:13:13 GMT, frode...@agresso.no (Frode Gill) wrote:

>Rijk van Geijtenbeek <ri...@iname.com> wrote:
>
>>On 19 Dec 2000 12:23:30 GMT, frode...@agresso.no (Frode Gill) wrote:
>>
>>>[....] (And when we're at it, I wish Opera had a perfect score
>>>on GNKSA)
>>
>>I don't. It's ok if Opera gives a warning when I do something stupid
>>like posting without a subject line, but it shouldn't make it
>>impossible to do such stupid things.
>
>Outlook Express has almost destroyed quite a few norwegian usenet-groups,
>and is causeing harm on a general basis, because of all the standard-
>violations and all the stupid things it let the users do and post.

I don't advocate Opera to destroy standards, like OE does with
localized versions. Translating 'Re' for example...

>Can
>you give me one good reason for posting without a subject line?

I think Opera should be configurable to disable most warnings, just
like the 'send insecure form' warning in the browser. The specific
example might not be the best one ;-)

>>... GNKSA isn't a standard.


>
>No, it is not a standard. If it was, I would have *demanded* Opera to
>follow it ;-)

LOL. Time for opera.demandlist ?

>But GNKSA is a well-defined set of rules, and if all newsreaders followed
>them there would be a lot less problems with postings on usenet.

I notice Agent doesn't get a perfect score either. That's not to say
GNKSA-compliance wouldn't help make Opera a better newsreader, just
that apparently a decent newsreader can be made without complying.

Lucumo

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Dec 20, 2000, 3:03:09 PM12/20/00
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 15:29:13 +0100, Rijk van Geijtenbeek
<ri...@iname.com> wrote:

>On 20 Dec 2000 09:13:13 GMT, frode...@agresso.no (Frode Gill) wrote:
>
>>But GNKSA is a well-defined set of rules, and if all newsreaders followed
>>them there would be a lot less problems with postings on usenet.
>
>I notice Agent doesn't get a perfect score either. That's not to say
>GNKSA-compliance wouldn't help make Opera a better newsreader, just
>that apparently a decent newsreader can be made without complying.

In fact, in nl.newsreaders (which I left BTW) GNKSA is called I list
of features of the favourite newsreader of the composer of GNKSA. I
looked at their demands and wishes once and I /did/ found them to be
unusual and high-demanding and some even stupid! I don't like that
list of demands, I think every newsreader should have some
configurability and some things it shouldn't do (because of abuse of
newsservers, like excessive cross-posting). But GNKSA isn't the right
list for that. I have yet to see a complete and "correct" list, but
GNKSA certainly is not.

Luc
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Ina Therese Wikborg

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Dec 23, 2000, 7:43:06 AM12/23/00
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* Rijk van Geijtenbeek
|
| LOL. Time for opera.demandlist ?
|

I don't think you should count on seing that in the nearest future,
the Opera wishlist is enough as it is:)

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Ina
Common sense is the most evenly distributed quantity in the world.
Everyone thinks he has enough.
-- Descartes, 1637

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