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Lie Detector

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Aug 30, 2002, 10:04:43 PM8/30/02
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FLAGS FLUTTERING in the high-desert breeze, sand
buggies & actors running along in their deflated
monkeysuits-obviously recorded on highspeed film,
conspicuous absence of blast craters, impossibly
silent running under invisible exhaust emissions,
brazenly obvious backdrops that contrast sharply
against the nearby high-desert terrain, etc. etc.

And this is not to mention the intense radiation
of the Van Allen belt and all outer space beyond
it which alone proves perfectly incontrovertibly
that men *never* made it safely into outer space.
Who are they trying to kid, fools like you maybe?

Be sure to bookmark & study these eye-opening links
to mountains of evidence which proves NASA's men to
moon missions were bogus...it was nothing more than
an elaborate stage play perpetrated on unsuspecting
and understandably naive masses. The facts prove it:

http://internet.ocii.com/~dpwozney/apollo1.htm
http://www.aulis.com/nasa.htm
http://www.grade-a.com/moon/
http://www.apollohoax.com/
http://www.moonmovie.com/
http://www.futuresunltd.com/sudarshan/MoonShadows/MoonShadows.htm
http://www.geocities.com/nasascam/
http://www.ari.net/b2m/0198.html
http://myspeedtest.net/backwards/moon.html
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/2666/MoonHoax2.html
http://advweb.com/kw/forum/misc/messages/689.shtml
http://clydelewis.com/dis/gorsky/gorsky.html
http://galactic-guide.com/articles/8S12.html
http://geocities.com/bradguth/moon-02.htm

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NASA NEVER sent men to the Moon! "They couldn't
make it so they faked it". That's what they did.
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*The Copernican Blunder - Facts Don't Lie:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=4AZ3HUKV3748...@Gilgamesh-frog.org


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Mac

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Aug 30, 2002, 10:45:54 PM8/30/02
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On 31 Aug 2002 04:04:43 +0200, Lie Detector
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Snip Balderdash....


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NASA NEVER sent men to the Moon! "They couldn't
make it so they faked it". That's what they did.
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*The Copernican Blunder - Facts Don't Lie:

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Maybe Facts don't lie but you sure do...
---Mac

Gregory Phillips

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Aug 30, 2002, 11:45:58 PM8/30/02
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Well, at least he gives us a reason to use the killfile of the newsreader.

>Maybe Facts don't lie but you sure do...
>---Mac

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Dennis Tetreault

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Aug 31, 2002, 12:36:27 AM8/31/02
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On 31 Aug 2002 04:04:43 +0200, Lie Detector <gum...@hangar18.area51>
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> FLAGS FLUTTERING in the high-desert breeze, sand

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Well, as long as YOU have decided it's a fake, I guess that's good
enough for all mankind.

So the next basic question, is the moon really made out of cheese?

Jonathan Silverlight

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Aug 31, 2002, 4:27:43 AM8/31/02
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In message <3d704758...@news.ma.ultranet.com>, Dennis Tetreault
<den...@rcn.com> writes

Did anyone really do the spectroscopic analysis Robert Heinlein mentions
in "Rocketship Galileo"?
He often put nuggets of real science into his novels.

phonon

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Aug 31, 2002, 10:21:00 AM8/31/02
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The fact that the moon is indeed made out of cheese is the primary evidence
that the moon landings were faked. Scientists have never found any traces
of cheese whatsoever in any moonrock sample. This lack of cheese proves
beyond any doubt that the moon landings were in fact an elaborate deception
by hyper intelligent mice to prevent humans from getting at the cheese on
the moon. The fact that mice are indeed the most intelligent species on
earth is documented in the historical records (sent back through time)
titled " the Hitch Hikers Guide to The Galaxy" by the famous historian
Douglas Adams who also travelled back through time to write them.

Paul

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Bruce Burke

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Aug 31, 2002, 11:24:13 AM8/31/02
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Lie Detector <gum...@hangar18.area51> wrote in
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Same old cut and paste BS.....give it up already, we don't care!

Eddie Trimarchi

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Sep 1, 2002, 7:12:45 AM9/1/02
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I thought it was a conspiracy by Nasa to become the number one cheese
supplier in the world. By creating a conspiracy that would convince the
world that there is nothing there but dust and rocks, until they can figure
out how to cut it into cubes using high-powered lasers based on Earth. Star
wars indeed. It's all part of the grand plan!

'Blessed are the cheesemakers'.

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Regards,

Eddie Trimarchi
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http://users.bigpond.net.au/eddiet

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Ian S

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Ar an lá Sun, 01 Sep 2002 11:12:45 GMT, scríobh "Eddie Trimarchi"
<edd...@bigpond.net.au>

>I thought it was a conspiracy by Nasa to become the number one cheese
>supplier in the world. By creating a conspiracy that would convince the
>world that there is nothing there but dust and rocks, until they can figure
>out how to cut it into cubes using high-powered lasers based on Earth. Star
>wars indeed. It's all part of the grand plan!
>
>'Blessed are the cheesemakers'.
>

>>
>> Paul
>>

You are only partially correct. The full story is far MURKIER than you
can IMAGINE. The "SPACE RACE" as it has been called, was in fact
partially financed by the FRENCH, who were trying to PROTECT their
CHEESE industry on one side. The AMERICAN SPACE AGENCY NASA was in
reality, a front for the makers of CRACKERS.

I have probably said TOO MUCH here. The COMPLETE STORY, full of
SHOCKING DETAILS, is chronicled in my, as yet UNPUBLISHED book, "LE
GRANDE FROMAGE: Anatomy of a cover-up of a conspiracy", whose
publication is being HINDERED and OBSTRUCTED by the POWERS-THAT-BE.

Ian


Eddie Trimarchi

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Sep 1, 2002, 8:05:40 AM9/1/02
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I hope you have also included in your book, a chapter devoted to the 'milky
way' conspiracy.

For those that may not be familiar with this, it is a lesser-known
conspiracy about how galaxies are really made of milk....

One of the dead-giveaways of the true nature of our dairy-universe is the
fact that no lactose-intolerant astronauts were ever chosen for a mission.
Let's face it, it just makes so much sense!
--

Regards,

Eddie Trimarchi
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http://users.bigpond.net.au/eddiet

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Martin Frey

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Sep 1, 2002, 2:11:01 PM9/1/02
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"Eddie Trimarchi" <edd...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

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>One of the dead-giveaways of the true nature of our dairy-universe is the
>fact that no lactose-intolerant astronauts were ever chosen for a mission.
>Let's face it, it just makes so much sense!

Thanks Eddie

On the strength of this, I've applied to go on the mission to the red
planet. Just hope they plan for the return properly - all the crew
will have doubled in mass and volume.

Cheers

Martin

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Lie_Detector

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Normally I don't respond to trolls, but since this
particular "evidence" has been cited so many times
by believers in NASA's alleged "apollo men-to-moon"
missions, it ought to be addressed if only briefly:

http://www.aerospaceguide.net/spacecraft/lunakhod.html
"Lunokhod 1 was the first successful Soviet remote-
controlled moon rover that was carried to the Moon
by Luna 17. It was launched November 10, 1970. The
rover had eight wheels.
"The Luna 17 spacecraft landed on the moon on November
17, 1970. Lunokhod 1 weighed just under 2,000 pounds
and was designed to operate for 90 days while guided
by a 5-person team. Lunokhod 1 explored the Mare
Imbrium for 11 months and traveled 11km and relayed
television pictures and scientific data.
Lunokhod 2 moon rover was an improved version of
Lunokhod 1. It was carried to the moon on Luna 21
and landed on January 16, 1973. Lunokhod 2 was faster
and carried an additional television camera. It
travelled 37km in only 8 weeks." [end quote]

http://www.zarya.info/Diaries/Luna/Lunokhod1.htm
"Lunokhod 1 went to the Moon aboard Luna 17. Its
eight wire-mesh wheels each has its own electric
motor to allow manoeuvring in tight spaces, and so
failure of a single motor did not prevent it from
moving.
The lidded box at the left is a French-built laser
reflector. It was used to reflect back to Earth a
laser beam, making it possible to measure the
distance between the Earth and Moon to an accuracy
of twenty to thirty centimetres" [end quote]

http://www.zarya.info/Diaries/Luna/Lunokhod2.htm
"There is an additional high-level TV camera for
panoramic photography, and all lenses have
improved sunshades.
The small silver box between the front wheels is
an alpha particle emitter which can be lowered
onto the Moon to measure soil composition. Like
its predecessor, Lunokhod 2 carries a French
retro-reflector for use with a laser beam
transmitted from Earth. It allows the Earth-Moon
distance to be measured to an accuracy around 20
centimetres.

http://www.zarya.info/Diaries/Luna/Luna16.htm
"the cone-shaped antenna keeps communication with
Earth while the drill arm sits in its rest position
on the right. The sample will be taken by rotating
the drill head by one hundred and eighty degrees,
lowering the drill arm to the surface and extracting
a core sample.
On returning to the rest position, the sample is
transferred to the return capsule and sent back to
Earth" [end quote]

Therefore the Soviet Lunakhod I/II-Luna XVII/XXI missions
both successfully landed their unmanned remote-controlled
lunar-rovers a.k.a. dune-buggies on the Moon: in the same
time frame as the alleged "apollo" missions were supposed
to have occurred. These remote-controlled Russian buggies
placed French- made laser reflectors on the Moon! Another
Soviet unmanned mission, Luna XVI, landed on the Moon and
returned a soil sample to the Earth by September 24, 1970:
from the Moon, unmanned, programmed and remote-controlled.

So laser-reflecting mirror arrays were placed on the Moon
by unmanned probes and a 100g x 35 cm soil sample drilled
out from the lunar surface was sent back to Earth by this
earlier of these unmanned missions all in the early 1970s.
This completely and absolutely destroys any argument that
lunar soil samples or lunar laser reflectors "prove" that
men were on the Moon. Rather, as with all other evidences
cited allegedly supporting of the "apollo" missions, upon
precise examination the same evidence proves these apollo
missions were hoaxed. Men never went to the Moon. Got it?

By contrast, the Russians proved that they did send their
unmanned probes to the Moon to wit: the presence of laser
reflectors left thereon by the aforesaid Lunakhod buggies.
It could be argued that the lunar soil samples were faked
somehow, but the laser reflecting mirrors are irrefutable
evidence that unmanned robotic probes put them there. See?

At least, the demonstrable presence of the "apollo" laser
reflectors proves the American space program successfully
sent some unmanned probes to the Moon -and- has continued
to launch many unmanned instruments into space ever since.
All these missions are unmanned. Why? The Sun, that's why!
That's why they never send men into outer space. Not once.
Otherwise, they'd fry to a crisp in the intense radiation.

Next case, please...
Daniel Joseph Min

On Sun, 01 Sep 2002, "Howard Haigh" begged for assistance:
>Why does nobody ever bother to mention the laser retro-reflectors that were
>placed on the lunar surface by several of the Apollo missions

*Signs & Phases - E.G. Saturday 24-August-2002:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=HE5CQUGT3749...@Gilgamesh-frog.org
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=36RARONI3749...@Gilgamesh-frog.org

*Caelestial Signs & Heavenly Phases - Part 2 of 2:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=S7VWBP2A3748...@Gilgamesh-frog.org

*Min's Tarot & Astro-Charts Homepage:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=X8ZT8PSR374...@Gilgamesh-frog.org

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Hap Griffin

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"Lie_Detector" <gum_shoe@hangar_18.area_51> wrote in message
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> Normally I don't respond to trolls, but since this
> particular "evidence" has been cited so many times
> by believers in NASA's alleged "apollo men-to-moon"
> missions, it ought to be addressed if only briefly:

This from the ultimate Troll...Min. How ironic.

> All these missions are unmanned. Why? The Sun, that's why!
> That's why they never send men into outer space. Not once.
> Otherwise, they'd fry to a crisp in the intense radiation.
>
> Next case, please...
> Daniel Joseph Min

The very web site you point us to also describes in detail the Soviets'
manned missions into space...the Voskhod, Soyuz, Salyut and Mir and ISS
missions. Are you saying those are un-manned as well? Also, in case you
didn't notice, the site also briefly describes the Soviets' plans for a
manned lunar mission.

Men went to the moon...get over it.

HG

Jdguil

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Sep 2, 2002, 8:11:18 PM9/2/02
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>Ian S wrote:

>You are only partially correct. The full story is far MURKIER than you
>can IMAGINE. The "SPACE RACE" as it has been called, was in fact
>partially financed by the FRENCH, who were trying to PROTECT their
>CHEESE industry on one side. The AMERICAN SPACE AGENCY NASA was in
>reality, a front for the makers of CRACKERS.
>
>I have probably said TOO MUCH here. The COMPLETE STORY, full of
>SHOCKING DETAILS, is chronicled in my, as yet UNPUBLISHED book, "LE
>GRANDE FROMAGE: Anatomy of a cover-up of a conspiracy", whose
>publication is being HINDERED and OBSTRUCTED by the POWERS-THAT-BE.

Wow! You must be telling the truth! Just look at all the CAPITAL letters in
your post! That's all the proof I need of a GOVERNMENT coverup!

Regards!
Jim!

W K

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Lie_Detector <gum_shoe@hangar_18.area_51> wrote in message
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> Normally I don't respond to trolls, but since this
> particular "evidence" has been cited so many times
> by believers in NASA's alleged "apollo men-to-moon"
> missions, it ought to be addressed if only briefly:
>
> http://www.aerospaceguide.net/spacecraft/lunakhod.html

So in brief - you believe that the USSR sent probes to the moon.
This means its possible to get to the moon.
BUT you also believe that unmanned probes were sent instead of manned
missions.

SO, when and where were these unmanned missions sent, and why did people in
the US not see them?

Also - how did luna probes land (an interesting question actually) - and how
big was their blast crater?


you believe that web site do you?
What about:
http://www.aerospaceguide.net/spacecraft/luna.html

quote
"Apollo 11 - Jul 16, 1969 - Manned Landing - First Man on the Moon Landing "

They link to:
http://www.fas.org/spp/eprint/cp_vick_interview.htm
"Why the Soviets Never Beat the U.S. to the Moon"

Lunatic Fringe

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Sep 8, 2002, 8:59:56 PM9/8/02
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Lie_Detector wrote:
> Normally I don't respond to trolls, but since this
> particular "evidence" has been cited so many times
> by believers in NASA's alleged "apollo men-to-moon"
> missions, it ought to be addressed if only briefly:

If so many intelligent, thinking humans believe it, then it must be true.

Peace,
Lunatic Fringe

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Dennis Tetreault wrote:
> So the next basic question, is the moon really made out of cheese?

Of course not. Haven't you seen the commercial? Because it's not made of
cheese is the reason we haven't been back.

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