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corrlens

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Dec 5, 2002, 4:26:11 PM12/5/02
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Hi,
Do you know what setting should I need to change under SCO unix in order
that the outlook's SMTP protocol requests over the internet is quicker and
no delays at all ? Sometimes it just hangs saying "Do you want to keep
waiting...server not responding"... but how come if I do a telnet or ftp
connection to the same IP address the response from the server is
instantaneously and never has to wait to connect ?

Thanks


Jean-Pierre Radley

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Dec 5, 2002, 4:49:02 PM12/5/02
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corrlens typed (on Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 09:26:11PM +0000):

Is your SMTP dameon running in the background, or is it called by inetd?

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Tony Lawrence

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Dec 5, 2002, 5:55:39 PM12/5/02
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Which is it? Your subject says popper but the text says SMTP ? What's
hanging?

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corrlens

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Dec 5, 2002, 6:40:32 PM12/5/02
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"Tony Lawrence" <to...@pcunix.com> wrote in message
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I wrote it wrong, it's SMTP protocol. The one that let's you do mail relay
throughout the unix.


John Schmidt

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Dec 5, 2002, 8:28:26 PM12/5/02
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On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, corrlens wrote:

> I wrote it wrong, it's SMTP protocol. The one that let's you do mail relay
> throughout the unix.

Okay, you're having delays using an unknown MTA and an unknown version
of SCO. Lacking any real data, the first two WAGs that come to mind
are:

1) ident lookups

2) load average

It'll only be possible to help you, though, if you can provide us
with some hard details (software and OS versions, logfile entries,
*exact* symptoms, etc.)

JS


Bill Vermillion

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Dec 5, 2002, 9:56:19 PM12/5/02
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In article <Pine.LNX.4.44.02120...@news.mebay.biz>,

John Schmidt <a.d...@mebay.biz> wrote:
>
>On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, corrlens wrote:

>> I wrote it wrong, it's SMTP protocol. The one that let's you do mail relay
>> throughout the unix.

>Okay, you're having delays using an unknown MTA and an unknown version
>of SCO. Lacking any real data, the first two WAGs that come to mind
>are:

>1) ident lookups

And those could be on the far machine too over which you have no
control. Default sendmail ident time used to be 30 seconds.

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John Schmidt

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Dec 5, 2002, 10:26:34 PM12/5/02
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Yeah, the only two source trees I have convenient access to are
an 8.9.* and an 8.12.* - in the newer, the default is down to a
saner 5 seconds; but in the 8.9 it was still at 30 seconds.

JS


corrlens

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Dec 6, 2002, 11:26:15 AM12/6/02
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"John Schmidt" <a.d...@mebay.biz> wrote in message
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>
> On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, corrlens wrote:
>
> > I wrote it wrong, it's SMTP protocol. The one that let's you do mail
relay
> > throughout the unix.
>
> Okay, you're having delays using an unknown MTA and an unknown version
> of SCO. Lacking any real data, the first two WAGs that come to mind
> are:
>
> 1) ident lookups
>

I'm running SCO 5.0.5 and the MTA that comes standard with this version of
OS. Outlook version 6.0, mmdf 2.43b.

Symptoms : Not all of the times I can connect to my mailserver because it
times out, but as said before how come telnet and ftp connections NEVER EVER
fail to connect. !!??. How do you kill ident lookups ? what are they ?


Tom Parsons

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Dec 6, 2002, 2:40:08 PM12/6/02
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corrlens enscribed:

The person who wrote about ident and load factors made the fatal mistake
of assuming you were using Sendmail.

MMDF doesn't use ident lookups nor have I ever seen it complain about
load factor issues.

I think you have one or more PC's popping your mail from a 5.0.5 system
and you are sending your outgoing mail through the smptserver on the
same machine. You must realize these are two totally separate operations,
involving different programs. The smtpserver doesn't care or know about
popping email.

The question is do you see these delays when popping (receiving)
AND sending mail?

I'd guess you have a nameserver issue with your LOOKout software and the
PC. Do you have a c:\windows\host file with at least these two entries:

127.0.0.1 localhost
(ip_address_of_5.0.5_system) name_of_unix_system (needs to correspond to
the name you gave LOOKout.)

If you do and the delays still occur, carefully check the settings in
LOOKout to verify the machine name corresponds to the hosts file entry.

If this isn't your configuration, please describe it in detail so we won't
have to continually guess.
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Stephen M. Dunn

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Dec 6, 2002, 11:04:31 PM12/6/02
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In article <TvPH9.2654$qM3.73...@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com> "corrlens" <a...@sbcglobal.net> writes:
$ Do you know what setting should I need to change under SCO unix in order
$that the outlook's SMTP protocol requests over the internet is quicker and
$no delays at all ? Sometimes it just hangs saying "Do you want to keep
$waiting...server not responding"... but how come if I do a telnet or ftp
$connection to the same IP address the response from the server is
$instantaneously and never has to wait to connect ?

As someone else pointed out, your subject says POP but your body
says SMTP, and it sounds like when you test your ability to connect
to the server, you're not testing SMTP or POP3, but rather telnet
and FTP. These four protocols are all completely separate, and
while there are some problems which could impact all of them, there
are lots of things that could go wrong with one without affecting
any of the others.

Outlook/Outlook Express (or at least some versions of them) can
log all commands and responses for both SMTP and POP. Turn this
on, try sending or receiving email (whichever is the problem),
and then look at the log file. It may have some clues.

If there's nothing obvious in there (which is entirely possible),
then post more information:
- which SCO Unix are you using (EXACT version number)?
- is the problem with SMTP or POP?
- what SMTP or POP server are you using (this may vary depending on
which version of SCO Unix you're using, choices made at installation
time, what updates have been applied, and whether anyone has decided
to download a different SMTP or POP product off an Internet site and
install it on your server)?
- what is in the Outlook log? Post it verbatim; sometimes people
will post things like "The log says that there was an error message
with a whole bunch of numbers in it" and it would be much more useful
were they to post the exact error message complete with the whole bunch
of numbers
- what, if anything, is in the logs on your Unix server? Where the
logs may be will depend on your Unix version, the SMTP or POP
software you're using, and possibly how you've configured Unix and/or
the SMTP or POP server.
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