Online banking w/ OS X
Hans Sluiman
the most OS X -friendly internet bank atm?
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"Hans Sluiman" <hslu...@seaweed.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I am looking to switch my current account to an online provider. What's
> the most OS X -friendly internet bank atm?
don't know which is the friendliest but hsbc works well and Lloyds/tsb is
functional
Woody
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First Direct is fine.
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Adrian Chapman
Sluiman <hslu...@seaweed.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> I am looking to switch my current account to an online provider. What's
> the most OS X -friendly internet bank atm?
I'm with the Nationwide Building Society and their online banking works
just fine in every OS X browser I have tried which is all of them, with
the exception of Mozilla 0.99. It worked in version 0.98 but I haven't
yet found out what is broken.
It even works OK in Chimera which is only at version 0.2.1.
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Luke Bosman
Hans Sluiman <hslu...@seaweed.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> I am looking to switch my current account to an online provider. What's
> the most OS X -friendly internet bank atm?
Nationwide (not a bank, but YKWIM) works fine.
Co-op does not at all.
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Adrian Chapman
Luke Bosman <spamb...@shrimper.org.uk> wrote:
> Co-op does not at all.
I can only get my Coop Account (VISA) to work using Communicator in OS9.
Gwynne Harper
> What's the most OS X -friendly internet bank atm?
Both Citibank, and now Virgin One work fine in all OS X browsers.
Gwynne
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Andy Hewitt
> I am looking to switch my current account to an online provider. What's
> the most OS X -friendly internet bank atm?
I only use Egg at the moment, but that works OK.
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zoara
> I am looking to switch my current account to an online provider. What's
> the most OS X -friendly internet bank atm?
smile.co.uk has been very good generally (good customer service).
Tested and working on OmniWeb, NS6, NS4.7, IE5. Don't know about others.
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> In article <160420020031481111%hslu...@seaweed.blueyonder.co.uk>,
> Hans Sluiman <hslu...@seaweed.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > I am looking to switch my current account to an online provider. What's
> > the most OS X -friendly internet bank atm?
>
> Nationwide (not a bank, but YKWIM) works fine.
>
> Co-op does not at all.
It works fine using Internet Explorer 5.1 - but only in Mac OS 9 or
Classic.
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James MacDonald
Sluiman <hslu...@seaweed.blueyonder.co.uk> writes
>I am looking to switch my current account to an online provider. What's
>the most OS X -friendly internet bank atm?
Most probably Barclays. Take a look: <http://ibank.barclays.co.uk/>.
Because they do things properly, and don't require Flash, JavaScript or
other such abominations, if your web browser can do SSL and forms, it
can probably access Barclays' online banking system. It's simple,
effective, and it looks pleasant without being too flashy.
No bank should be 'PC friendly' or 'Mac friendly'. Online banking should
be universal, and in my experience it is with Barclays.
The same is *not* true for Barclaycard, who are the worst possible in
every respect. The people at Barclays need to go and beat the idiots at
Barclaycard to death with their clue-sticks. I'll do it if they're busy.
I would leave Barclaycard immediately were I not a student. Being a
student, it's very difficult to obtain a credit card unless it's from
your bank. The only reasons I have a credit card in the first place are
to build a credit record for the future, and for the purpose of
protection under the Consumer Credit Act. There's very little incentive
for me to 'shop around', so while Bastardcard have given me good cause
to ditch them, I'm quite happy that they owe me UKP 26 in cashback, and
they're never going to make any money through interest either :-)
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Hans Sluiman
<n...@all.valid> wrote:
> Hans Sluiman <hslu...@seaweed.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > I am looking to switch my current account to an online provider. What's
> > the most OS X -friendly internet bank atm?
>
> smile.co.uk has been very good generally (good customer service).
>
> Tested and working on OmniWeb, NS6, NS4.7, IE5. Don't know about others.
>
> -z-
Hm. If I go to smile and do a browser check
(http://www.smile.co.uk/cgi-bin/compatibility/smiletest.cgi) I get:
"Results
We are hoping to support MAC's soon. We need to carry out some further
testing on Mac's to ensure Mac users get the same smiley experience as
PC users."
I was using OS X 10.1.3 and IE 5.1.4.
Hans
charles kooy
> I am looking to switch my current account to an online provider. What's
> the most OS X -friendly internet bank atm?
I use Natwest - it works OK under OS X, but only when using IE 5.1.
One slight oddity, though - On the Mac you need to go to www.nwolb.com,
rather than www.natwest.com.
ck
The North
charle...@blueskink.net (charles kooy) wrote:
that's a useful tip - they've been insisting on some version of
crashScape for the www.natwest.com version. Ta.
Cheers,
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In fact they even offered £10 to every Mac owner that opened an online
account last year to show their commitment. The offer's closed now
unfortunately.
Gordon McCallum
>> Now that we have done the new changes you may be able to access it via
>your
>> Mac, It would help to improve the service if you would feed back your
>> comments to us. You can send your comments to talk_to_...@smile.co.uk.
>> Please include details of what Mac operating system and browser you are
>> using to access smile.
>
>I get the impression that OSX may not be high on their agenda. Nor the
>use of apostrophes.
Well at least they appear to be trying to do something which is more than can
be said for my bank The Royal Bank of Scotland.
They insist that you use windows 95/98 and Internet Explorer (and nothing else
will do) or you cannot gain access at all to their Royline on-line banking
site.
I have asked them why they do not support Macs but all I got was the usual
stuff about only windows and Internet Explorer being able to provide the
necessary security - which I suspect is complete bollocks of course.
I gain access via Virtual PC at the moment.
Gordon
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The North
gog...@aol.comnospam (Gordon McCallum) wrote:
>
>Well at least they appear to be trying to do something which is more than can
>be said for my bank The Royal Bank of Scotland.
>They insist that you use windows 95/98 and Internet Explorer (and nothing else
>will do) or you cannot gain access at all to their Royline on-line banking
>site.
Uh oh. You and me seem to be have cause to disagree regularly :)
I use www.rbsdigital.com from IE 5 in OS X, and it's fine if a little
slow. The underlying system looks like the same off the shelf code as
Natwest use.
Gwynne Harper
> I gain access via Virtual PC at the moment.
As an experiment, if you're on OSX try the compatibility preferences of
Omniweb - it beats most of this rubbish, allowing access most of the
time (although I've not tried this particular site it must be said).
Gordon McCallum
You mean about the stability of X I presume - or the lack of it in your case.
Mine is still going strong (fingers crossed).
> I use www.rbsdigital.com from IE 5 in OS X, and it's fine if a little
>slow. The underlying system looks like the same off the shelf code as
>Natwest use.
It is the Royline Direct web site which we subscribe (ie are forced to use!)
to.
If you try and log on you should see what I mean. Grrrrrr.
The URL is http://roylinedirect.rbs.co.uk
Gordon McCallum
>Omniweb - it beats most of this rubbish, allowing access most of the
>time
Thanks.
I have never tried Omniweb but may well give it a shot.
Luke Bosman
{$usenet$}@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) wrote:
> Luke Bosman <spamb...@shrimper.org.uk> wrote:
> > In article <160420020031481111%hslu...@seaweed.blueyonder.co.uk>,
> > Hans Sluiman <hslu...@seaweed.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > > I am looking to switch my current account to an online provider. What's
> > > the most OS X -friendly internet bank atm?
> > Co-op does not [work] at all.
> It works fine using Internet Explorer 5.1 - but only in Mac OS 9 or
> Classic.
Thanks. I'll try that.
zoara
I'm using that combo *right now* to look at my accounts. Not a problem.
I think what they mean is "We haven't actually tested on Mac's [sic] and
our web designers have no idea about how to produce standards-complinat
code, so we don't actually know if it works"
The complications arise around the login screen - they use some funny
java/javascript stuff which confuse[s|d] some browsers.
James MacDonald
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[Smile]
>I think what they mean is "We haven't actually tested on Mac's [sic] and
>our web designers have no idea about how to produce standards-complinat
>code, so we don't actually know if it works"
Then why are their 'web designers' not fired immediately and replaced by
people who are actually competent?
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rob
Are there any competent web designers ?, I'm beginning to have my
doubts. They all seem to be in competition to make life hell for anyone
without broadband and the exact same Windoze browser they use.
When I was a lad... we had to make the site compatible for browsers
that didn't yet support "fill in forms". Those were the days. No java,
no javascript, no Interent Explorer, no Netscape. Sniff sniff.
The North
rob <r...@somewhere.uk> wrote:
>
>Are there any competent web designers ?, I'm beginning to have my
>doubts. They all seem to be in competition to make life hell for anyone
>without broadband and the exact same Windoze browser they use.
No, but there are a lot of us winging it. Find some competent clients
first...
No, I take that back, that's a cop out. It's a tricky old world though
- I've spent a good few days over the last week adding reasonably
reliable code to a site to try and maximise accesibility for people (i)
with Flash & Javascript (ii) People without Flash & Javascript (iii)
People without Javascript.
Adding that code and getting it working reliably across the major
browser's and OSes has consumed about 1/4 of the time I've spent on the
site build - and that wasn't even tricky stuff, a lot of the code came
from stock sources.
Like Zeldman says, 'now wonder the kiddies love Flash'.
zoara
*shrug* same reasons we've got a bunch of trained monkeys designing the
intranets in Vodafone? :)
Hell, even the trained monkeys argue against some of the decisions from
higher management (I tried to during my stint as trained monkey) -
whoever heard of putting ultra-distracting flash *advertisements* on the
company intranet? I thought intranets were places to find information
quickly and easily, not to get persuaded to buy the products/services
you sell.
(Yes, I complained about this - and got a friendly response back saying
"We know it sucks, we tried to argue against it, but management
insisted")
zoara
[spoilered for language]
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> Are there any competent web designers ?, I'm beginning to have my
> doubts. They all seem to be in competition to make life hell for anyone
> without broadband and the exact same Windoze browser they use.
I think there are shit-hot web designers out there (very few though),
and there are a fair number of competent designers. But there are a lot
of fuckwit designers; the problem being that fuckwit designers - and the
people they code for - think they are shit-hot. This is probably dues to
the flashiness (pun intended) of the presentation - the fuckwit
designers use all the bells and whistles available to impress the PHBs,
who immediately promote the fuckwit designer to chief fuckwit designer
and put them in charge of the whole project.
Or something.
Part of the problem is that fuckwit designers can easily pull the wool
over the eyes of non-technical people. After all, solution A and B do
the same sort of thing; while A might be more accessible, technically
superior, more scalable and inherently robust, that doesn't actually
*show*. What *does* show is the clever little animations and pull down
menus, aren't they purty. Anyone played with IE's page transitions? I've
met people who think they are a good idea.
Or am I being too cycnical?
> When I was a lad... we had to make the site compatible for browsers
> that didn't yet support "fill in forms". Those were the days. No java,
> no javascript, no Interent Explorer, no Netscape. Sniff sniff.
Them were the days....
James MacDonald
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>James MacDonald <tr...@topeka.clara.co-invalid.uk> wrote:
>> In message <1faupag.wpmn3xknzl20N%n...@all.valid>, zoara <n...@all.valid>
>> writes
>> [Smile]
>> >I think what they mean is "We haven't actually tested on Mac's [sic]
>> >and our web designers have no idea about how to produce
>> >standards-complinat code, so we don't actually know if it works"
>> Then why are their 'web designers' not fired immediately and replaced by
>> people who are actually competent?
>*shrug* same reasons we've got a bunch of trained monkeys designing the
>intranets in Vodafone? :)
Are they the same monkeys that manage Voodoofone's GSM network? :-)
>Hell, even the trained monkeys argue against some of the decisions from
>higher management (I tried to during my stint as trained monkey) -
>whoever heard of putting ultra-distracting flash *advertisements* on the
>company intranet?
People with far too much time on their hands - perhaps when someone
comes to their senses and gives them the heave-ho they'll use it to
stand in a queue at their local Jobcentre.
>I thought intranets were places to find information quickly and easily,
>not to get persuaded to buy the products/services you sell.
Hmm. You wouldn't be able to use the intranet to find the wise guy
responsible for the 'How are you?' message that has to be acknowledged
on Vodafone's newer SIM profiles? If you do, I know a lot of people in
<uk.telecom.mobile> who would like to, umm, thank them.
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zoara
> In message <1fawfkw.qjtlnv6nkd28N%n...@all.valid>, zoara <n...@all.valid>
> writes
>
> >James MacDonald <tr...@topeka.clara.co-invalid.uk> wrote:
>
> >> In message <1faupag.wpmn3xknzl20N%n...@all.valid>, zoara <n...@all.valid>
> >> writes
>
> >> [Smile]
>
> >> >I think what they mean is "We haven't actually tested on Mac's [sic]
> >> >and our web designers have no idea about how to produce
> >> >standards-complinat code, so we don't actually know if it works"
>
> >> Then why are their 'web designers' not fired immediately and replaced by
> >> people who are actually competent?
>
> >*shrug* same reasons we've got a bunch of trained monkeys designing the
> >intranets in Vodafone? :)
>
> Are they the same monkeys that manage Voodoofone's GSM network? :-)
Voodoofone? Heh.
Norange
One-to-none
Sillynet
(in answer to your question, not a chance)
> >I thought intranets were places to find information quickly and easily,
> >not to get persuaded to buy the products/services you sell.
>
> Hmm. You wouldn't be able to use the intranet to find the wise guy
> responsible for the 'How are you?' message that has to be acknowledged
> on Vodafone's newer SIM profiles?
Er, what? "SIM profiles"?
> If you do, I know a lot of people in
> <uk.telecom.mobile> who would like to, umm, thank them.
I could find the preson responsible for the whole "How are you"
campaign, but that would be just too naughty.
Mr Karhu
"zoara" <n...@all.valid> wrote:
I'm a smile.co.uk customer and apart from a few minor niggles with the
website i.e. Tabbing through entries instead of clicking and double clicking
on drop downs, I find it works well and does what I want.
The bank itself is fine - I do agree with the fact the Java Script is not
exactly mac friendly but it's not Mac unfriendly either really. I use MAC OS
X and IE 5.1
Shawn Grinter
> I am looking to switch my current account to an online provider. What's
> the most OS X -friendly internet bank atm?
I use Lloyds & Cahoot - both work fine.
I also use Northern Rock - thats a bit slow but just about useable.
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