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mynamei...@my-deja.com

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Jan 25, 2001, 7:41:04 PM1/25/01
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anyone have any reccomendations or examples of what they use to create
atmospheric/spacey sounds using strictly analog? right now i have a few
pedals and use guitar and bass through them but id like to expand to
some other options if anyone can point me in the right direction,
thanks.


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Colonel Panic

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Jan 26, 2001, 1:17:07 AM1/26/01
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On Stardate Fri, 26 Jan 2001 00:41:04 GMT, mynamei...@my-deja.com
said to Mr. Spock:

>anyone have any reccomendations or examples of what they use to create
>atmospheric/spacey sounds using strictly analog? right now i have a few
>pedals and use guitar and bass through them but id like to expand to
>some other options if anyone can point me in the right direction,
>thanks.

I run vocals, ethnic instruments, feedback, sound effects CDs, contact
mic field recordings and ambient sounds through a combination of delay
pedals, ring modulators, a little distortion, EQ, moving fan blades,
toy voice changer EFX, homemade tape delays and loops, and whatever
else I can find that alters sound.

The real fun of this is not to follow a formula so much as it is
playing with shit and finding out new ways to alter and destroy sound.
For example, try setting up a nice echoey effects patch for your
guitars and rubber-banding an electric razor to various points on the
neck and body, then playing with chords and detuning...

Panic

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no1electronics

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Jan 31, 2001, 3:56:01 PM1/31/01
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USE A THEREMIN. TRY ONE ONLY £49 + PP
Regards, Tony
http://www.lightnet.co.uk/no1 http://members.nbci.com/mr_theremin SEE
PICTURES ON SITES
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mynamei...@my-deja.com

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I actuall had been wondering what a thermin sounds like? does anyone
have any links or mp3s or anything i could hear that uses a thermin?
thanks.


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Jonathan Mackie

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Feb 2, 2001, 5:09:03 AM2/2/01
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the beachboys used one in one of there hit songs, don't know the title but
it goes> "round round going around......"
it sounds like a gost. try http://www.obsolete.com/120_years/

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squeeziechum

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Feb 2, 2001, 6:53:39 PM2/2/01
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You're thinking of Good Vibrations. It actually wasn't a theremin, but it
was something related to it which is easier to play, so the sound is
identical.
I played theremin for years in the psych/punk band Sad Pygmy. Don't know of
any links or mp3s, but if you want a CD email me.
There are plenty of theremin sites out there, do a search and soon you'll
find some sounds.

-Phil

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Feb 2, 2001, 8:48:34 PM2/2/01
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In article <7MHe6.3977$4j2.1...@typhoon.austin.rr.com>,
mayda...@houston.rr.com says...

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>You're thinking of Good Vibrations. It actually wasn't a theremin, but it
>was something related to it which is easier to play, so the sound is
>identical.
>

what was it then? All the rock review sites claim it was a theremin

squeeziechum

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Feb 3, 2001, 1:01:22 PM2/3/01
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Okay, I forgot what it was called but a quick search brought up the
following looong explanation, probably more than you here bargained for.
Got this from
http://www.korrnet.org/pipermail/levnet/1997-October/001477.html :

I contacted the gentleman who played the "theremin" part on the
recording of Good Vibrations. His name is Dr. Paul O. W. Tanner. He is
a very nice fellow, and he just turned 80 years old (celebrating his
birthday in Italy as we speak). We have had many conversations, and he
has shared quite a bit of information with me. He also allowed me to
interview him.

The interview can be found at-

http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/4611/ptanner.html

The instrument used on the recording of Good Vibrations IS NOT a
theremin. It is an instrument Paul designed and built in 1958 after
participating in a recording session with Sam Hoffman. Paul was a major
studio trombonist (also played in Glenn Miller's Orchestra). Paul told
me after he witnessed Hoffman struggle getting his theremin to
cooperate, he said to himself, "There must be a better way".

What Paul devised was an instrument which is basically a mechanical
controller of a variable oscillator. He used mechanical linkages to
control a pot. The device he moved back and forth to control pitch was
held in his right hand, and contained a contact switch to start and stop
notes. Volume was controlled by the left hand operating his Heathkit
tube amp, which was housed in the same "box" as the mechanical workings
of the instrument. Along the top of the box was a keyboard diagram to
indicate the pitches. His instrument had three ranges, and also three
keyboard indicators drawn out. The "keyboard" could be moved to
transpose the instrument.

By the time Paul recorded Good Vibrations, he had already used his
instrument on many projects, from 1958 on up. Included are movies, TV
shows, and 2 albums that feature the instrument.

When contacted by Brian Wilson to join the Beach Boys tour, Paul had to
decline for many reasons (on staff of ABC Orchestra, teaching at UCLA,
etc., etc.) This is where Bob Moog enters the picture. Bob made the
Beach Boys a ribbon controller to use for live performances of Good
Vibrations.

As for the name of Paul's instrument- those around Paul early on began
calling it either "Paul's Box", or the "electro-theremin". By the time
the first album (Music for Heavenly Bodies) was released in 1959, the
name "electro-theremin" stuck, and that term was included on the cover
notes to the album.

Paul told me he is truly sorry that people think it was a theremin, and
said he never pretended to be playing a "real" theremin. He said he
designed the instrument for a particular sound for commercial (studio)
reasons. Interesting to note is that on the first album (Heavenly
Bodies), the liner notes emphasize that the instrument is not a theremin
and go on to explain the differences.

The AFM (union) local in which Paul is a member listed the instrument as
a "theremin" only because of the sound it made.

As synthesizers became more popular, Paul said he knew they could do
everything he could, and then some. He ended up selling his
"electro-theremin" to an audiologist in Calif.

Modern day experimenters are currently recreating Paul's instrument. I
suspect that there will be some kind of revival in an instrument like
this.

Dave M

Dave's Theremin Home Page
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/4611/


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Philip Page

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> >You're thinking of Good Vibrations. It actually wasn't a theremin, but
it
> >was something related to it which is easier to play, so the sound is
> >identical.
> >
>
> what was it then? All the rock review sites claim it was a theremin
>
So do most of the synth sites...


the sea priestess

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Feb 5, 2001, 4:39:34 PM2/5/01
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A good site to check out is http://www.thereminworld.com/

I play the theremin and I'm trying to run it through my Korg EA-1 and
it doesn't want to work. Does anyone have any ideas? Oh well, but the
EA-1 is great for analog atmospheric noise.

V.


mynamei...@my-deja.com wrote:

I actually had been wondering what a thermin sounds like? does anyone


have any links or mp3s or anything i could hear that uses a thermin?
thanks.

Thrash

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Feb 5, 2001, 4:32:06 PM2/5/01
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mynamei...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> I actuall had been wondering what a thermin sounds like? does anyone
> have any links or mp3s or anything i could hear that uses a thermin?
> thanks.

You know those old 50's sci-fi movies with UFOs and such? Many of them
have a theremin doing the spacey electronic sounds.

Thrash

Ngia

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Feb 5, 2001, 11:31:23 PM2/5/01
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There is some great theramin music out there. Two of my favs are listed
below. Amazon has snippets of songs from each of these albums so your ears
can have a peek. The music on these is from around the 40's so expect it to
be a little . . . um . . . . . "swanky" ;)

1) Songs from the Ether

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000J8RP/o/qid=981432878/sr=8-6/ref
=aps_sr_cm_3_3/102-8649826-5191332

2) Dr. Samuel J. Hoffman and the Theramin

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000IJH7/ref=pd_sbs_m_3/102-8649826
-5191332


I've been wanting to do some remixes of these songs - esp. "Lunar Rhapsody"
but they keep making their way to the back shelf . .

The Mysteron (sp?) plugin for VST is supposedly a theramin sound but, even
though I like it, it is nothing like a theramin. I've had the most luck
with Dream Station in creating a near genuine theramin sound. I suppose any
other synth (soft or not) could also be used, with equal, if not better
results.


Ngia

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Ngia

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Feb 5, 2001, 11:33:57 PM2/5/01
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Didn't EM do an article on this - this month or last - I can't remember . .
. In their vintage sounds section?

Ngia

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You Here

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Feb 6, 2001, 2:49:11 AM2/6/01
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In article <13Lf6.681$1_3.2...@nntp1.onemain.com>, Ng...@onemain.com says...
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>The Mysteron (sp?) plugin for VST is supposedly a theramin sound but, even
>though I like it, it is nothing like a theramin. I've had the most luck
>with Dream Station in creating a near genuine theramin sound. I suppose any
>other synth (soft or not) could also be used, with equal, if not better
>results.
>

any synth that can generate a sine wave and has portamento feature works

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