Network card question
Mike Beasley
ISTR there was a change to the terms and conditions later in the month) but
I can't find the terms and conditions which I carefully (?) filed away at
the time of purchase.
Can someone please remind me how many people can travel with me using cheap
tickets.
Mike
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Anthony Naggs
free...@nospam.bcs.org.uk> wrote
>I have a network card issued on 9/5/01 (the date of issue may be important;
>ISTR there was a change to the terms and conditions later in the month) but
>I can't find the terms and conditions which I carefully (?) filed away at
>the time of purchase.
The only leaflet I can find just now is from Jan 2001 to 19th May 2001,
which seems to cover you.
>Can someone please remind me how many people can travel with me using cheap
>tickets.
3 further adults can travel at the 1/3rd off price with you, up to 4
children (5 to 15) for a pound each. (Subject to minimum fares etc.)
I can't remember all the changes on the most recent cards, but I think
the child fares are no longer a flat rate 1 pound.
Tony
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Brian Morrison
<a74910$5nl$2...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk> "Mike Beasley"
<mdrb-fr...@nospam.bcs.org.uk> wrote:
> I have a network card issued on 9/5/01 (the date of issue may be
> important; ISTR there was a change to the terms and conditions later in
> the month) but I can't find the terms and conditions which I carefully
> (?) filed away at the time of purchase.
>
> Can someone please remind me how many people can travel with me using
> cheap tickets.
Had to do a double take here, saw 'network card' and drew completely the
wrong conclusion until I read the final sentence!
But still don't know the answer, last time I used a train was in 1994....
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Mike Beasley
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It was posted in cam.transport!
Mark Ayliffe
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>
> It was posted in cam.transport!
You're not familiar with the ISO OSI 7 layer reference model then? Layer 4,
transport layer.
Mark :-)
Tim Ward
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Eh?? But a train ride is clearly layer 2?
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Mark Ayliffe
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> "Mark Ayliffe" <mark.ayl...@nospam.pem.cam.andthis.ac.uk> wrote in
> message news:rrZl8.7$Gf4.367@psinet-eu-nl...
> >
> 4,
> > transport layer.
>
> Eh?? But a train ride is clearly layer 2?
Nah, that would be a station. Level 3 perhaps? With home-to-destination
complete trip in level 4?
Mark
Tim Ward
Train is only level 3 if you do the whole journey by train, and use the
railway's routing algorithms. It's level 2 if you get to the station by
taxi, do one leg on the train, and then walk to your destination, having
planned the route yourself.
> With home-to-destination complete trip in level 4?
Yes, but of course what makes it level 4 is the phone call home, so that the
sending party knows that the various bits of you have all arrived and have
been reassembled in the right order.
Mark Ayliffe
> "Mark Ayliffe" <mark.ayl...@nospam.pem.cam.andthis.ac.uk> wrote in
> message news:PAZl8.8$Gf4.514@psinet-eu-nl...
>
> railway's routing algorithms. It's level 2 if you get to the station by
> taxi, do one leg on the train, and then walk to your destination, having
> planned the route yourself.
Oh, alright then I bow to your better understanding of the model. But given
you can buy a network card to use a train, there mus be some layer 3 'ness
in there somewhere.
> > With home-to-destination complete trip in level 4?
>
> Yes, but of course what makes it level 4 is the phone call home, so that
the
> sending party knows that the various bits of you have all arrived and have
> been reassembled in the right order.
So at least we are agreed therefore that confusion of what a network card
is, is reasonable in this newsgroup ;-)
Mark
Mike Beasley
"Anthony Naggs" <a...@ubik.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:mCrKRYAi...@ubik.demon.co.uk...
> In article <a74910$5nl$2...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>, Mike Beasley <mdrb-
> free...@nospam.bcs.org.uk> wrote
> >I have a network card issued on 9/5/01 (the date of issue may be
important;
> >ISTR there was a change to the terms and conditions later in the month)
but
> >I can't find the terms and conditions which I carefully (?) filed away at
> >the time of purchase.
>
> The only leaflet I can find just now is from Jan 2001 to 19th May 2001,
> which seems to cover you.
>
> >Can someone please remind me how many people can travel with me using
cheap
> >tickets.
>
> 3 further adults can travel at the 1/3rd off price with you, up to 4
> children (5 to 15) for a pound each. (Subject to minimum fares etc.)
>
> I can't remember all the changes on the most recent cards, but I think
> the child fares are no longer a flat rate 1 pound.
Thanks. I've now found all the information about network cards, and other
varieties of railcard, at www.railcard.co.uk.
Mike
Al Grant
> "Tim Ward" <t...@brettward.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:lvZl8.8866$WP.19...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> > "Mark Ayliffe" <mark.ayl...@nospam.pem.cam.andthis.ac.uk> wrote in
> > message news:rrZl8.7$Gf4.367@psinet-eu-nl...
> > > You're not familiar with the ISO OSI 7 layer reference model then? Layer
> 4,
> > > transport layer.
> >
> > Eh?? But a train ride is clearly layer 2?
>
> Nah, that would be a station. Level 3 perhaps?
No, the level 3 service is a complete journey between any pair of
end points on the network, but with no guarantee of reliability.
Mark Ayliffe
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> "Mark Ayliffe" <mark.ayl...@nospam.pem.cam.andthis.ac.uk> wrote in
message news:<PAZl8.8$Gf4.514@psinet-eu-nl>...
> > "Tim Ward" <t...@brettward.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:lvZl8.8866$WP.19...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> > >
> >
> > Nah, that would be a station. Level 3 perhaps?
>
> No, the level 3 service is a complete journey between any pair of
> end points on the network, but with no guarantee of reliability.
Which differs from a train journey on our national network in what way?
Mark :-)
Mark Ayliffe
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>
> Thanks. I've now found all the information about network cards, ... at
> www.railcard.co.uk.
Cool. I wonder if they can help me select one for my diskless boot
workstation I'm trying to set up...
Mark :-)
John Sullivan
>"Al Grant" <alg...@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
>> end points on the network, but with no guarantee of reliability.
>
>Which differs from a train journey on our national network in what way?
Datagram delivery is "best effort"?
John
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Colin Rosenstiel
mark.ayl...@nospam.pem.cam.andthis.ac.uk (Mark Ayliffe) wrote:
<fits of barely controllable giggles>
Colin Rosenstiel
Colin Rosenstiel
mdrb-FR...@NOSPAM.bcs.org.uk (Mike Beasley) wrote:
The critical point to watch is to buy your next one by 18th May to get 15
month's worth for the price of 12 and before 1st June when they scrap
discounts unless the fares are at least £10 (the b*stards!).
Kids get 60% off kids' fares (80% off adult fares) on current issue cards.
Colin Rosenstiel
Brian Morrison
<a78jn0$dd7$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk> "Mike Beasley"
<mdrb-fr...@nospam.bcs.org.uk> wrote:
>> Had to do a double take here, saw 'network card' and drew completely
>> the wrong conclusion until I read the final sentence!
>>
>> But still don't know the answer, last time I used a train was in
>> 1994....
>
> It was posted in cam.transport!
True, but then network cards provide physical transport for packets don't
they?
Mark Ayliffe
news:O-t*8u...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk...
LOL!
Mark
Mark Ayliffe
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> mark.ayl...@nospam.pem.cam.andthis.ac.uk (Mark Ayliffe) and "Tim
Ward" <t...@brettward.co.uk> wrote:
> > <Stuff about network cards>
>
> <fits of barely controllable giggles>
We aim to please.
Mark
Jonathan Amery
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JDA A No, the level 3 service is a complete journey between any pair of
# end points on the network, but with no guarantee of reliability.
###_o M Which differs from a train journey on our national network in what way?
###'/ J Datagram delivery is "best effort"? - Al G, Mark A & John S - cam.*