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Lars Eighner

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Mar 17, 2002, 8:46:52 PM3/17/02
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I have multiple news servers and need mutiple newsrcs. Is there a
way to do this?

After much searching on this issue, all I have been able to
find is a message suggesting this would be implemented in 4.01
and the internal stuff for it existed in 4.00, but with no
way for users to access/configure it.

Now I've got 4.40 (unix) and I can't find how to do it.

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Nancy McGough

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Mar 18, 2002, 6:01:57 AM3/18/02
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On 18 Mar 2002 Lars Eighner (eig...@io.com) wrote:
> I have multiple news servers and need mutiple newsrcs. Is there a
> way to do this?

I discuss this here

<http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#newsrc>

There's lots more information about Pine and NNTP in the sections
before and after this section.

HTH,
Nancy
^x


REFERENCE:
The message I'm replying to -- and this entire thread & group --
may be available at

<http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=slrna9ahvo.1a...@dumpster.io.com>

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Lars Eighner

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Mar 18, 2002, 6:25:28 AM3/18/02
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In our last episode,
<Pine.WNT.4.44.0203181105430.-3995215-100000@no>, the lovely and
talented Nancy McGough broadcast on comp.mail.pine:

> On 18 Mar 2002 Lars Eighner (eig...@io.com) wrote:
>> I have multiple news servers and need mutiple newsrcs. Is there a
>> way to do this?

> I discuss this here

> <http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#newsrc>

> There's lots more information about Pine and NNTP in the sections
> before and after this section.
> HTH,

Thanks. None of those options quite achieve the level of
functionality I was hoping for. I'm sure if there were a less kludgy
way to do it, you would know, so I'm very disappointed.

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Nancy McGough

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Mar 20, 2002, 6:53:52 AM3/20/02
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On 18 Mar 2002 Lars Eighner (eig...@io.com) wrote:
> talented Nancy McGough broadcast on comp.mail.pine:
>
> > <http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#newsrc>

>
> Thanks. None of those options quite achieve the level of
> functionality I was hoping for. I'm sure if there were a less kludgy
> way to do it, you would know, so I'm very disappointed.

I agree that it's kludgy and one of the wishes in my Pine wish
list is about having a way to associate a news server and a
newsrc. Another possibility that I just remembered and that I
need to write about on my web site is to use an IMAP-to-NNTP
proxy. In order for this to work, you need

1] an IMAP account on a UW IMAP system
2] a news server that's accessible from the account in 1

Then, include this in your pinerc news-collections

{imap.server/user=uid/tls}{news.server/nntp}#news.[]

I think that the way this works is that Pine first connects and
authenticates to imap.server and then from there connects to
news.server. And the .newsrc is stored in the IMAP root of
imap.server. So, using this technique, you can compartmentalize
some of your newsrc's. And if you have accounts on enough UW IMAP
servers you could use one for each news server you connect to!

Questions to people who know about this kind of thing:

* How much slower is it to use this IMAP-to-NNTP proxy than just
using NNTP directly?

* Is it possible to specify the name and location of the remote
.newsrc? The things I experimented with didn't work.

* Is it only the UW IMAP server that supports this? Do other
IMAP servers have something similar?

* What exactly is "news over imap" and how does one do it? E.g.,
I would love to be able to use Mulberry, which is an IMAP
client (but not a news client) to access newsgroups.

Thanks,
Nancy
^x


REFERENCE:
The message I'm replying to -- and this entire thread & group --
may be available at

<http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=slrna9bjon.ae...@dumpster.io.com>

Nancy McGough

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Mar 20, 2002, 7:21:53 AM3/20/02
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On 18 Mar 2002 Lars Eighner (eig...@io.com) wrote:
> talented Nancy McGough broadcast on comp.mail.pine:
>
> > <http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#newsrc>

>
> Thanks. None of those options quite achieve the level of
> functionality I was hoping for. I'm sure if there were a less kludgy
> way to do it, you would know, so I'm very disappointed.

I agree that it's kludgy and one of the wishes in my Pine wish


list is about having a way to associate a news server and a
newsrc. Another possibility that I just remembered and that I
need to write about on my web site is to use an IMAP-to-NNTP
proxy. In order for this to work, you need

1] an IMAP account on a UW IMAP system
2] a news server that's accessible from the account in 1

Then, include this in your pinerc news-collections

{uw.imap.server/user=uid/tls}{news.server/nntp}#news.[]

I think that the way this works is that Pine first connects and

authenticates to uw.imap.server and then from there connects to


news.server. And the .newsrc is stored in the IMAP root of

uw.imap.server. So, using this technique, you can compartmentalize


some of your newsrc's. And if you have accounts on enough UW IMAP
servers you could use one for each news server you connect to!

Questions to people who know about this kind of thing:

* How much slower is it to use this IMAP-to-NNTP proxy technique
rather than just using NNTP directly?

* Is it possible to specify the name and location of the remote
.newsrc? The things I experimented with didn't work.

* Is it only the UW IMAP server that supports this? Do other
IMAP servers have something similar?

* What exactly is "news over imap" and how does one do it? E.g.,
I would love to be able to use Mulberry, which is an IMAP
client (but not a news client) to access newsgroups.

Thanks,
Nancy
^x


REFERENCE:
The message I'm replying to -- and this entire thread & group --
may be available at

<http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=slrna9bjon.ae...@dumpster.io.com>

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