Who The Beatles Are
Simon Wagstaff
sea...@onramp.net (John Searcy) wrote:
:I had this dream where the Beatles, instead of being John, Paul,
:George, and Ringo, were Frank Zappa, my friend Justin Philips, Bruce
:Willis, and Ringo.
: and I would further posit that the Beatles'
:songs and albums that are publically available are only cheap
:watered-down versions of the songs and albums created by the actual
:Beatles, which I've never heard, but which I would imagine are pretty
:cool...like, think of a song you really like, and then imagine a song
:that sounds sort of like it, only maybe a little bit better--that's
:what their music sounds like.
First off, JPG&R were actually The Remoras, which as the name implies,
"they really suck". The band whose members were ZPW&R, was named Jesus.
That's why "The Beatles" claimed that they were more popular than
Jesus. Jesus was a band that no one knew about becuase Oliver Stone
wanted to make a film about Jesus (the band that no one knew about).
But on to your challenge. OK. I'm thinking of Queen's "Bohemian
Rhapsody". And... Hey! Wow! I'm hearing Rossini's "Sins of My Youth"!
No. No. That was just the radio in the background. Yes! I'm hearing
Jesus (the band that no knew about) now and they're singing "Mac Arthur
Park" and they sound incredibly better than any other band that people
really do know about.
Far out! Can I do that again?
.....................TEAR.ALONG.THE.DOTTED.LINE......................
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Andrew S. Damick
have been physically and psychically contained WITHIN MY BODY AT THIS
MOMENT. When John died, he put his fingers against my temples and said,
"REMEMBER," and I then received his spirit and the rest of the Beatles'
with it. WHY DO YOU THINK GEORGE HAD THAT BLANK LOOK THE WHOLE TIME THEY
RECORDED "Set On You"???
Don't believe me? Listen to this:
"I'm George and I play the guitar."
If what you heard sounded like an older version of Wakko Warner, THEN YOU
HAVE BEEN SHOWN THE LIGHT. If not, GO BACK AND LISTEN AGAIN.
So, as my good friend NATE would say, QUIT YER WHININ'!
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Bev
Andrew S. Damick <asda...@unity.ncsu.edu> wrote:
>"I'm George and I play the guitar."
>
>If what you heard sounded like an older version of Wakko Warner, THEN YOU
>HAVE BEEN SHOWN THE LIGHT. If not, GO BACK AND LISTEN AGAIN.
NO! You CAN'T BE my friend Ray Strobel!! Just because he's blonde and
facial-hair-endowed too.... NOOOOOOO!!!! YOU CAN'T BE RAY!! NOOOOO!!!!
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Alan L. Bostick
>Look, I AM THE INCARNATION OF ALL FOUR BEATLES. Their beautiful sounds
>have been physically and psychically contained WITHIN MY BODY AT THIS
>MOMENT. When John died, he put his fingers against my temples and said,
>"REMEMBER," and I then received his spirit and the rest of the Beatles'
>with it. WHY DO YOU THINK GEORGE HAD THAT BLANK LOOK THE WHOLE TIME THEY
>RECORDED "Set On You"???
Big deal. I'm the incarnation of the entire Trapp family. Top that!
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Lupus Yonderboy
>asda...@unity.ncsu.edu (Andrew S. Damick) writes:
>>Look, I AM THE INCARNATION OF ALL FOUR BEATLES. Their beautiful sounds
>
I'm the incarnation of myself, except when I was younger.
When I'm feeling really spiritual, and if I meditate sufficiently, I
can also channel myself, but (if you ask me) it usually isn't worth
the hassle. I never say anything I don't know already.
Also all the candles set off the fire alarm.
Yonderboy: "Ommmmmmmmmmmmm."
Yonderboy: "Ommmmmmmmmmmmm."
Yonderboy (now channelling Yonderboy): "I am Yonderboy. Who calls?"
Onlooker: "Yonderboy! Is it really you?"
Yonderboy: "Ommmmmmmmmmmmm. Yes."
Onlooker: "How's it going?"
Yonderboy: "Pretty good. Ommmmmmmmmmmm. How are you?"
Onlooker: "I'm fine."
<Enter Fireman>
Fireman: "What's all this then?"
Onlooker: "He's channeling Yonderboy!"
Fireman: "Who's Yonderboy?"
Onlooker: "He is!"
Yonderboy: "Ommmmmmmm. It's the candles again, isn't it?"
Fireman to Onlooker: "Is it okay to talk to him?"
Onlooker: "Sure."
Fireman: "Look, if you're going to have so many candles going, open
a window or something."
Yonderboy: "Ommmmmmmmm. You got it."
Fireman: "Are you really channeling Yonderboy?"
Yonderboy: "Yep. Ommmmmmmmmmmm."
Fireman: "Can I ask you a question?"
Yonderboy: "Ommmmmm. Shoot. Ommm."
Fireman: "How's my cat Tiddles doing in Heaven?"
Yonderboy: "Ommmmmmmmmm. I'm sorry, Tiddles went to cat Hell. He abused
the catnip a little too much."
Fireman, upset: "No!"
Yonderboy: "Just kidding. Ommmmm."
THUS ENDS THE SAGA... FOR NOW!
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Nick Bensema
:have been physically and psychically contained WITHIN MY BODY AT THIS
:MOMENT. When John died, he put his fingers against my temples and said,
:"REMEMBER," and I then received his spirit and the rest of the Beatles'
:with it. WHY DO YOU THINK GEORGE HAD THAT BLANK LOOK THE WHOLE TIME THEY
:RECORDED "Set On You"???
:Don't believe me? Listen to this:
:
:"I'm George and I play the guitar."
:
:If what you heard sounded like an older version of Wakko Warner, THEN YOU
:HAVE BEEN SHOWN THE LIGHT. If not, GO BACK AND LISTEN AGAIN.
BZZT! George and John are still alive. THEREFORE......
That's not George. That IS Wakko. He's the one that's in your head, not the
Beatles. He's taking a mallot to all your brain cells! He commands you! And
forever you must obey!
I have Taz in my head. He commands me to eat, which is no problem.
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Gardner S Trask
>I'm the incarnation of myself, except when I was younger.
>When I'm feeling really spiritual, and if I meditate sufficiently, I
>can also channel myself, but (if you ask me) it usually isn't worth
>the hassle. I never say anything I don't know already.
>Also all the candles set off the fire alarm.
>Yonderboy: "Ommmmmmmmmmmmm."
>Yonderboy: "Ommmmmmmmmmmmm."
>Yonderboy (now channelling Yonderboy): "I am Yonderboy. Who calls?"
>Onlooker: "Yonderboy! Is it really you?"
>Yonderboy: "Ommmmmmmmmmmmm. Yes."
>Onlooker: "How's it going?"
>Yonderboy: "Pretty good. Ommmmmmmmmmmm. How are you?"
>Onlooker: "I'm fine."
><Enter Fireman>
>Fireman: "What's all this then?"
>Onlooker: "He's channeling Yonderboy!"
<snip>
Keep your eyes open for my next ASCII rendition. Thi post is in the top
ten candidates list.
Gard.
P.S. Lupus, please send me an ASCII rendition of yourself in the full
lotus position.
Much thanx
Gard " oh .... and the fireman, did he have a mustache?" Trask
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Lupus Yonderboy
>P.S. Lupus, please send me an ASCII rendition of yourself in the full
>lotus position.
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>Much thanx
Much you're welcome!
>Gard " oh .... and the fireman, did he have a mustache?" Trask
Yes. I feel a mustache is artistically required for this scene.
Mustache's are cool because they let you do a mustache smile,
where instead of smiling you just kind of spread your mustache
around.
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Bev
Nick Bensema <ni...@nz1.netzone.com> wrote:
>In article <4dg5tn$6...@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>,
>Andrew S. Damick <asda...@unity.ncsu.edu> wrote:
>:Don't believe me? Listen to this:
>:"I'm George and I play the guitar."
>:If what you heard sounded like an older version of Wakko Warner, THEN YOU
>:HAVE BEEN SHOWN THE LIGHT. If not, GO BACK AND LISTEN AGAIN.
>
>BZZT! George and John are still alive. THEREFORE......
>That's not George. That IS Wakko. He's the one that's in your head, not the
>Beatles. He's taking a mallot to all your brain cells! He commands you! And
>forever you must obey!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
ANDREW STEPHEN DAMICK IS *NOT* RAY STROBEL!! I don't CARE how much they
look alike!!!
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: ANDREW STEPHEN DAMICK IS *NOT* RAY STROBEL!! I don't CARE how much they
: look alike!!!
Ah. RMB's been invaded by Those That Take My Name In Vain.
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Andrew S. Damick
: Bev <wedn...@tezcat.com> wrote:
: : ANDREW STEPHEN DAMICK IS *NOT* RAY STROBEL!! I don't CARE how much they
: : look alike!!!
:
: Ah. RMB's been invaded by Those That Take My Name In Vain.
Thinking a bit too highly of oneself when we haven't RTFM, are we?
I think I'm going to print out that sentence and paste it to my forehead,
just because I am a beautiful man.
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Bob Stahley
: : Ah. RMB's been invaded by Those That Take My Name In Vain.
: Thinking a bit too highly of oneself when we haven't RTFM, are we?
Absurdity. Smacks of creating unliftable boulders and footraces between
Superman and the Flash.
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Ben Weiner
>: Ah. RMB's been invaded by Those That Take My Name In Vain.
>Thinking a bit too highly of oneself when we haven't RTFM, are we?
Sheesh, now he's flaming _everybody_ named Bob! Damick, you better
cut back on the caffeine, or the
>I think I'm going to print out that sentence and paste it to my forehead,
>just because I am a beautiful man.
Careful, Andrew. If Rabbi Loew's experience with the Golem of Prague
is any indicator, if anyone removes the piece of paper from your forehead,
you will fall down senseless and unmoving.
Hmm, come to think of it...
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to the other in the back of your car." -- Pere Ubu
Alan L. Bostick
>E Teflon Piano <rgrif...@UBmail.ubalt.edu> writes:
>>On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, Jay C Jachimiak wrote:
>>> ja...@onramp.net (Jaffo), who has a bad habit of clipping attributions
>>> from his followups, wrote:
>>>
>>[...]
>>>
>>> >"Who would win, Mighty Mouse or Superman?"
>>> >
>>> >"You doofus. Mighty Mouse is just a cartoon. Superman's a real guy."
>>>
>>> Exactly why Mighty Mouse would win. A cartoon character can be moved
>>> easily into the real world (you've seen it on TV, or in the recent
>>> film "Toy Story"), but a real guy can't go into a cartoon world
>>> without becoming a cartoon character himself.
>>[...]
>> There is a considerable body of evidence to rebut this averment. See
>>"Cool World," "Who Framed Roger Rabbit," and "Magical Mystery Tour."
>E has noted some fine examples, but just to show this technology has
>exsisted quite a while, check out "Jack and the Beanstock" with Gene
>Kelly, or "The incredible Mr. Limpitt". Now there is film making at it's
>finest.
>Gard "Even without morphing t-100 terminators." Trask
>P.S. Next some anal-retentive sci-fi freak will explain the second
>terminator was not a T-100.
People who are interested in proving out these hypotheses about the toon
world can do so easily enough. Everyone knows that real people can
get to the toon world by way of Injun Joe's Cave near Hannibal, Missouri.
Alan "So how come those kids stayed real but Ted Cassidy became
a toon?" Bostick
Jay C Jachimiak
from his followups, wrote:
>>Absurdity. Smacks of creating unliftable boulders and footraces between
>>Superman and the Flash.
>
>Dunno about the boulder thing, but The Flash is WAAAY faster than Superman.
Sure, in a footrace. But the whole idea's stupid: Superman would never
get into a footrace with The Flash, because he knows he can fly faster
than The Flash can run.
And there's no boulder that Superman can't lift, unless it's made of
kryptonite.
>"Who would win, Mighty Mouse or Superman?"
>
>"You doofus. Mighty Mouse is just a cartoon. Superman's a real guy."
Exactly why Mighty Mouse would win. A cartoon character can be moved
easily into the real world (you've seen it on TV, or in the recent
film "Toy Story"), but a real guy can't go into a cartoon world
without becoming a cartoon character himself. Mighty Mouse would still
be his powerful self if he met Superman in Gotham City, but Superman
would just be a cartoon if he went to MM's turf. No contest.
ObBeatles: The Yellow Submarine was a cartoon. Ringo is a real guy.
-Jay
jay...@panix.com
the "c" stands for "charisma"
Gardner S Trask
>On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, Jay C Jachimiak wrote:
>> ja...@onramp.net (Jaffo), who has a bad habit of clipping attributions
>> from his followups, wrote:
>>
>[...]
>>
>> >"Who would win, Mighty Mouse or Superman?"
>> >
>> >"You doofus. Mighty Mouse is just a cartoon. Superman's a real guy."
>>
>> Exactly why Mighty Mouse would win. A cartoon character can be moved
>> easily into the real world (you've seen it on TV, or in the recent
>> film "Toy Story"), but a real guy can't go into a cartoon world
>> without becoming a cartoon character himself.
>[...]
> There is a considerable body of evidence to rebut this averment. See
>"Cool World," "Who Framed Roger Rabbit," and "Magical Mystery Tour."
E has noted some fine examples, but just to show this technology has
exsisted quite a while, check out "Jack and the Beanstock" with Gene
Kelly, or "The incredible Mr. Limpitt". Now there is film making at it's
finest.
Gard "Even without morphing t-100 terminators." Trask
P.S. Next some anal-retentive sci-fi freak will explain the second
terminator was not a T-100.
Lupus Yonderboy
>Absurdity. Smacks of creating unliftable boulders and footraces between
>Superman and the Flash.
Superman could kick the Flash's butt any day of the week.
Anyone else notice the connection between actors that play
Superman and horrible things happening to them? I wonder
how long Dean Cain has...
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Bob Stahley
: Anyone else notice the connection between actors that play
: Superman and horrible things happening to them? I wonder
: how long Dean Cain has...
He'll prob'ly suffer the same fate at Kirk Alyn or the guy who played
Superman in the Broadway musical: terminal typecasting.
Of course, we all know what happened to Jack Cassidy (who played the bad
guy on Broadway), don't we?
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E.Holmes
Piano <rgrif...@UBmail.ubalt.edu> wrote:
/On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, Jay C Jachimiak wrote:
/: ja...@onramp.net (Jaffo), whose habit of clipping attributions
/: from his followups isn't any worse than some other people, wrote:
/:
/:[...]
/:
/:>"Who would win, Mighty Mouse or Superman?"
/:>
/:>"You doofus. Mighty Mouse is just a cartoon. Superman's a real
guy."
/>
/>Exactly why Mighty Mouse would win. A cartoon character can be moved
/>easily into the real world (you've seen it on TV, or in the recent
/>film "Toy Story"), but a real guy can't go into a cartoon world
/>without becoming a cartoon character himself.
/>[...]
/There is a considerable body of evidence to rebut this averment. See
/"Cool World," "Who Framed Roger Rabbit," and "Magical Mystery Tour."
Silly wabbits. Everyone seems to think Roger Rabbit did something
so radical. Hah! Mary Poppins was cavorting with cartoon critters
ere ol' Roger's creator was a gleam in the eye.
E.(sometimes)Holmes
umm...that was (someimes Ellen) I think
Or do I? Did I? Oh dear, I just can't think with all this music.
E.Holmes
tr...@world.std.com (Gardner S Trask) wrote:
/E Teflon Piano <rgrif...@UBmail.ubalt.edu> writes:
/>On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, Jay C Jachimiak wrote:
/>> ja...@onramp.net (Jaffo) wrote:
/>[...]
/>>>"Who would win, Mighty Mouse or Superman?"
guy."
/>>
/>>Exactly why Mighty Mouse would win. A cartoon character can be
/>>recent film "Toy Story"), but a real guy can't go into a cartoon
/>>world without becoming a cartoon character himself.
/>[...]
/>There is a considerable body of evidence to rebut this averment. See
/>"Cool World," "Who Framed Roger Rabbit," and "Magical Mystery Tour."
/E has noted some fine examples, but just to show this technology has
/exsisted quite a while, check out "Jack and the Beanstock" with Gene
/Kelly, or "The incredible Mr. Limpitt". Now there is film making at
it's
/finest.
Actually I didn't go back far enough with M.Poppins. Probably no
one but me can remember it, but I believe "Song of the South" was
the first. Zippa de doodah zippa de a, my oh my what a wonderful
day. Not politically correct now & Disney won't run it; remains a
lost gem.
E.Holmes
is currently occupied with morphing a 486 into
a Pentium without replacing the motherboard.
Quote: "I could finish it up right now if I
could find where the cat hid the screwdriver."
Carlos May
: On Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:12:37 EST in alt.religion.kibology, E Teflon
: Piano <rgrif...@UBmail.ubalt.edu> wrote:
: /On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, Jay C Jachimiak wrote:
: /: ja...@onramp.net (Jaffo), whose habit of clipping attributions
: /: from his followups isn't any worse than some other people, wrote:
: /:
: /:>
: /:>"You doofus. Mighty Mouse is just a cartoon. Superman's a real guy
: />
: />Exactly why Mighty Mouse would win. A cartoon character can be moved
: />easily into the real world (you've seen it on TV, or in the recent
: />film "Toy Story"), but a real guy can't go into a cartoon world
: />without becoming a cartoon character himself.
: />[...]
: /There is a considerable body of evidence to rebut this averment. See
: Silly wabbits. Everyone seems to think Roger Rabbit did something
: so radical. Hah! Mary Poppins was cavorting with cartoon critters
: ere ol' Roger's creator was a gleam in the eye.
Sheesh. Take a look at some of the Fleisher Brothers "Out of the
Inkwell" cartoons of the late teens and early 1920s. Koko the
clown gets out of his inkwell and cavorts around Uncle Max's
office, and occasionally gets out into the streets of New York.
I especially like the scene where Koko boxes with a live action
kitten.
Toon/human interreaction is nothin' new. It was going on even
before Kelly DeForest developed the sound-on-film system.
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E Teflon Piano
>
> E.Holmes
> is currently occupied with morphing a 486 into
> a Pentium without replacing the motherboard.
> Quote: "I could finish it up right now if I
> could find where the cat hid the screwdriver."
We know to a moral certainty that Ms Holmes soon will be issuing dire
complaints about anomalous and precipitously erratic behavior from her
spurious Pentasix which will form the basis of a widely cross-posted
and long-lived thread entitled "SPACE ALIENS STOLE MY HARD-DRIVE," with
annotations by Nick Bensema, who will coincidently be discovered as the
owner of plastic debris discovered in the chassis of Ms Holmes' machine.
They will blame the cat, which will provide some wag with the excuse to
further crosspost the thread to the Usenet's most-beleagured group. All of
this hubbub will pass unnoticed by Rone and Ediger, who occupy their
on-line time by swapping killfile recipies. Tjames and "Jesse" will
snicker at the gormlessness of Intel-based affiliations, and Gard will
run the Traskmobile over a BUAG of a motherboard helpfully supplied by a
denizen of comp.emacs to demonstrate jumper settings. Kibo will fail to
comment, and Ms Holmes will be advised that she's one period away from a
Lanham complaint, so she should just stick to KiboL.
There. We believe we have sufficiently name-dropped to ensure raising
our profile past the DeLaney Threshold and beat Tom Richardson to the
Legends FAQ.
Oh. Read Beverday's Cool Web Pages. We have, and we're a changed
organization.
Jaffo will now fail to understand most of the references, and Matt
McIrvin will fail to intercede.
E Teflon Piano is a fellow at the Institute of Misapplied Psychometry and
founder of the Internet Legal Society.[dibs] Teflon is DuPont Corporation's
trade name for poly(tetrafluoroethylene). E is E poly(TFE) Piano Enterprises'
tradememe for satire, calculated misstatements and ironic hyperbole.
Michael Crawford
: On Wed, 24 Jan 1996 20:03:09 GMT in alt.religion.kibology,: />On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, Jay C Jachimiak wrote:
: />> ja...@onramp.net (Jaffo) wrote:
: />[...]
: />>>"Who would win, Mighty Mouse or Superman?"
: guy."
: />>
: />>Exactly why Mighty Mouse would win. A cartoon character can be
: />>recent film "Toy Story"), but a real guy can't go into a cartoon
: />>world without becoming a cartoon character himself.
: />[...]
: />There is a considerable body of evidence to rebut this averment. See
: />"Cool World," "Who Framed Roger Rabbit," and "Magical Mystery Tour."
: /E has noted some fine examples, but just to show this technology has
: /exsisted quite a while, check out "Jack and the Beanstock" with Gene
: /Kelly, or "The incredible Mr. Limpitt". Now there is film making at
: it's
: /finest.
: Actually I didn't go back far enough with M.Poppins. Probably no
: one but me can remember it, but I believe "Song of the South" was
: the first. Zippa de doodah zippa de a, my oh my what a wonderful
: day. Not politically correct now & Disney won't run it; remains a
: lost gem.
I agree...that was an excellent film. But humans have been entering the
animated world ever since the beginnings of animation. Disney's
pre-Mickey career included the "Alice" series which featured a real-life
girl in an animated world.
To get back to the main topic, tho, Superman would do fine as long as he
was versed in the ways of Toon combat (a la Eddie Valiant's gun in R.R.)
m.c.
: E.Holmes
: is currently occupied with morphing a 486 into
: a Pentium without replacing the motherboard.
: Quote: "I could finish it up right now if I
: could find where the cat hid the screwdriver."
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>
>Yeah, yeah. And I'm sure we could keep this thread alive for *weeks*
>with interesting examples like these, yet they do nothing to refute my
>original point: a toon character can appear in the real world, but a
>real-life character can't appear in a cartoon. It's this simple: once
>a character appears in a cartoon, that character is by definition a
>cartoon character. Even if it's Hitler.
Umm, what about Gene Kelly's/Jerry Mouse's dancing duo in "Anchors Aweigh",
or whatever that MGM movie was? The only non-animated item in the scene
is Gene...
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Jay C Jachimiak
Jaffo quoted:
>: /:>"Who would win, Mighty Mouse or Superman?"
>: /:>"You doofus. Mighty Mouse is just a cartoon. Superman's a real guy
>: />
I (jay...@panix.com) explained:
>: />Exactly why Mighty Mouse would win. A cartoon character can be moved
>: />easily into the real world (you've seen it on TV, or in the recent
>: />film "Toy Story"), but a real guy can't go into a cartoon world
>: />without becoming a cartoon character himself.
>: />[...]
E. Teflon Piano <rgrif...@UBmail.ubalt.edu> reBUTTed:
>: /There is a considerable body of evidence to rebut this averment. See
>: /"Cool World," "Who Framed Roger Rabbit," and "Magical Mystery Tour."
One of those Holmeses (eho...@onramp.net) reminisced:
>: Silly wabbits. Everyone seems to think Roger Rabbit did something
>: so radical. Hah! Mary Poppins was cavorting with cartoon critters
>: ere ol' Roger's creator was a gleam in the eye.
>
fro...@praline.no.NeoSoft.com (Carlos May) stepped into the wayback
machine:
>Sheesh. Take a look at some of the Fleisher Brothers "Out of the
>Inkwell" cartoons of the late teens and early 1920s. Koko the
[clip]
>Toon/human interreaction is nothin' new.
Yeah, yeah. And I'm sure we could keep this thread alive for *weeks*
with interesting examples like these, yet they do nothing to refute my
original point: a toon character can appear in the real world, but a
real-life character can't appear in a cartoon. It's this simple: once
a character appears in a cartoon, that character is by definition a
cartoon character. Even if it's Hitler.
-Jay
Bob Stahley
: I think the winner is Max Fleischer's "Koko the Clown", a series made
: in the early 20s.
Uh-uh. Winsor McCay, in the mid-teens.
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Roger Douglas
>On Wed, 24 Jan 1996 20:03:09 GMT in alt.religion.kibology,
>tr...@world.std.com (Gardner S Trask) wrote:
>/E Teflon Piano <rgrif...@UBmail.ubalt.edu> writes:
>/>On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, Jay C Jachimiak wrote:
>/>> ja...@onramp.net (Jaffo) wrote:
>/>[...]
>/>>>"Who would win, Mighty Mouse or Superman?"
>/>>>"You doofus. Mighty Mouse is just a cartoon. Superman's a real
>guy."
>/>>
>/>>Exactly why Mighty Mouse would win. A cartoon character can be
>/>>moved easily into the real world (you've seen it on TV, or in the
>/>>recent film "Toy Story"), but a real guy can't go into a cartoon
>/>>world without becoming a cartoon character himself.
>/>[...]
>/>There is a considerable body of evidence to rebut this averment. See
>/>"Cool World," "Who Framed Roger Rabbit," and "Magical Mystery Tour."
>/E has noted some fine examples, but just to show this technology has
>/exsisted quite a while, check out "Jack and the Beanstock" with Gene
>/Kelly, or "The incredible Mr. Limpitt". Now there is film making at
>it's
>/finest.
> Actually I didn't go back far enough with M.Poppins. Probably no
> one but me can remember it, but I believe "Song of the South" was
> the first. Zippa de doodah zippa de a, my oh my what a wonderful
> day. Not politically correct now & Disney won't run it; remains a
> lost gem.
I think the winner is Max Fleischer's "Koko the Clown", a series made
in the early 20s. Fleischer was one of the great pioneers of animation
- the creator of Betty Boop and Popeye the Sailor - and the only one
to rival Disney in popularity in the 30s.
Quote from _The Animated Film_ by Ralph Stephenson (ISBN 0-498-01202-6
for youse Merkin scholars):
"Max Fleischer began to make cartoons in the early Twenties, his
first character being *Koko the Clown*who came out of an ink bottle to
play tricks in the real world of live action."
And later in the same book:
"Cartoon figures have been used openly in live-action
movies....from Koko the Clown in the Twenties to Mary Poppins and
Bedknobs and Broomsticks in the Sixties."
Roger
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where Porky Pig and Daffy Duck appear with live action figures - a
security guard who boots Porky off the lot, even Leon Schlesinger! I know
Warner released it on video several years ago as part of a Daffy video!
james dolan
does schlesinger have any lines? i'm curious as to whether it's
really true that mel blanc modelled daffy's voice on schlesinger's.
(according to chuck jones, schlesinger's reaction to hearing daffy's
voice was "where'd you get that great voith?".)
darkside
>Umm, what about Gene Kelly's/Jerry Mouse's dancing duo in "Anchors Aweigh",
>or whatever that MGM movie was? The only non-animated item in the scene
>is Gene...
Precisely! Good point. And what about "Cool World"? And "TRON" for that matter.
And Milot's [sic] famous silent "A Trip To The Moon"? That was a cartoon with
real characters.
Jaffo
YOU THAT E. TEFLON PAINO WROTE THE STUFF BELOW EXCEPT THE STUFF I WROTE,
NYAH:
> There. We believe we have sufficiently name-dropped to ensure raising
>our profile past the DeLaney Threshold and beat Tom Richardson to the
>Legends FAQ.
You're not in this thing yet, either? Hell, I might as well give up.
[snipped the part about Beverday's pages because I've been picking on her a
lot lately]
>Jaffo will now fail to understand most of the references, and Matt
>McIrvin will fail to intercede.
Huh? I'm sorry, I don't get it.
Jaffo
KiboL: Matron of Kibology
ja...@onramp.net (Jaffo) wrote:
/BECAUSE I ACCIDENTALLY DELETED THE AUTOMATIC LINE, I'M OFFICIALLY
/TELLING YOU THAT E. TEFLON PAINO WROTE THE STUFF BELOW EXCEPT THE
/STUFF I WROTE, NYAH:
/> There. We believe we have sufficiently name-dropped to ensure
/>raising our profile past the DeLaney Threshold and beat Tom
/>Richardson to the Legends FAQ.
/You're not in this thing yet, either? Hell, I might as well give up.
/[snipped the part about Beverday's pages because I've been picking on
/her a lot lately]
/>Jaffo will now fail to understand most of the references, and Matt
/>McIrvin will fail to intercede.
/Huh? I'm sorry, I don't get it.
/Jaffo
I just noticed, but McIrvin hasn't explained anything in *ages*.
KL or EH or whatever
KiboL: Matron of Kibology
Piano <rgrif...@UBmail.ubalt.edu> wrote:
/On Mon, 5 Feb 1996, E.Holmes wrote:
/> E.Holmes
/> is currently occupied with morphing a 486 into
/> a Pentium without replacing the motherboard.
/> Quote: "I could finish it up right now if I
/> could find where the cat hid the screwdriver."
/We know to a moral certainty that Ms Holmes soon will be issuing dire
/complaints about anomalous and precipitously erratic behavior from
/her spurious Pentasix which will form the basis of a widely cross-
/posted and long-lived thread entitled "SPACE ALIENS STOLE MY
/HARD-DRIVE," with annotations by Nick Bensema, who will coincidently
/be discovered as the owner of plastic debris discovered in the
/chassis of Ms Holmes' machine.
Funny you should mention this. I *have* had some very odd things
happen to this big crossbred calculator recently. For example: (1)
While trying to install d-Time, it kept giving me an error stating I
was trying to access more than one copy of the CD-ROM; I looked at the
dir tree & sure enough it showed me having Drives F & G as CD-ROMs. It
is true that I have 2 CDR drives, but only one of them is installed.
Which makes me wonder, HOW DID WIN95 KNOW I HAD THE SECOND CD-ROM
DRIVE? (2) Several days later I decided to track down the source of
the MS-DOS compatibility mode error I get on my hard drives & the
first M$ substitute tech spt (you Unix innocents may not be aware of
this, but Microsoft does not directly support Win95 - the tech spt is
outsourced to several vendors) person I talked thoroughly convinced me
that I had a virus. After downloading all the rest of the AV pgms that
I didn't already have, plus most current updates, & mucking about for
nearly 7 hours trying to find a virus (I'll say this, mine has to be
the *cleanest* machine in the metroplex), I finally called the 2nd
vendor on the list & found out my OnTrack Disk Manager software needed
an updated driver because the ver I have isn't fully 32-bit. No
problem, OT has BB & got it right away. Still need to install the VLB
I/O controller to get full 32-bit connection with hard drives, but am
waiting for good weather so I can send the cat outside while I install
it (cats being walking static generators that cannot resist open
computers). (3) One & only one window, the Ford Explorer - no the
Win95 Explorer, sorry - when maximized is off 1/2 inch vertically with
space at top. I've had 2 tech spt vendors working on that for two
weeks now; occasionally I call them & chat about the weather & how
they are still researching it. I imagine the solution is in the
Registry but I'm in the middle of buying a new house (& packing) &
don't have time to look it up myself just now. BTW, neither M$ nor the
TS vendors will discuss the registry - fortunately there's plenty of
unauth literature available. (4) There's more, but you get the idea.
[Note: I'm not making *any* of this up. Really.]
/They will blame the cat, which will provide some wag with the excuse
/to further crosspost the thread to the Usenet's most-beleagured
/group. All of this hubbub will pass unnoticed by Rone and Ediger, who
/occupy their on-line time by swapping killfile recipies. Tjames and
/"Jesse" will snicker at the gormlessness of Intel-based affiliations,
With good reason, I might add.
/and Gard will run the Traskmobile over a BUAG of a motherboard
/helpfully supplied by a denizen of comp.emacs to demonstrate jumper
/settings. Kibo will fail to comment, and Ms Holmes will be advised
/that she's one period away from a Lanham complaint, so she should
/just stick to KiboL.
Well heavens knows we have more than enough complaining going
around. Advice taken kindly.
/ There. We believe we have sufficiently name-dropped to ensure
/raising our profile past the DeLaney Threshold and beat Tom
/Richardson to the Legends FAQ.
/ Oh. Read Beverday's Cool Web Pages. We have, and we're a changed
/organization.
/ Jaffo will now fail to understand most of the references, and Matt
/McIrvin will fail to intercede.
/
I do hope, E, that this post indicates the possibility of an update
to TWIA. I'm tired of reading about the holiday party. It's
*February* now. Speaking of periods, Andy used one where he shouldn't
in your name on his lead-in page to TWIA. I'm sure he'd fix it if he
realized it was there.
KiboL: Matron of Kibology
"No one quotes me in .sigs anymore." (Andrew S. Damick)
Jay C Jachimiak
>
>>>Yeah, yeah. And I'm sure we could keep this thread alive for *weeks*
>>>with interesting examples like these, yet they do nothing to refute my
>>>original point: a toon character can appear in the real world, but a
>>>real-life character can't appear in a cartoon. It's this simple: once
>>>a character appears in a cartoon, that character is by definition a
>>>cartoon character. Even if it's Hitler.
Which would seem to spell it out pretty well. Nonetheless,
co...@rtsg.mot.com (Enrique Conty) said:
>>Umm, what about Gene Kelly's/Jerry Mouse's dancing duo in "Anchors Aweigh",
>>or whatever that MGM movie was? The only non-animated item in the scene
>>is Gene...
And, throwing good arguments after bad,
dark...@newburgh.ny.frontiercomm.net (darkside) wrote:
^^^^^^^^
\--Newburgh's kinda near Suffern, by the way.
>Precisely! Good point. And what about "Cool World"? And "TRON" for that matter.
>And Milot's [sic] famous silent "A Trip To The Moon"? That was a cartoon with
>real characters.
Precisely, and a good point. Each of these examples is a "cartoon"
with "real characters". Therefore, those are cartoon characters. The
technology that was used to put the images of those characters into
their respective cartoons doesn't change that fact; they are cartoon
characters.
Once again: a cartoon character can appear in the real world, but if
you put a real person in a cartoon, that person becomes a cartoon
character. Every time.
-Jay
jay...@panix.com
the "c" stands for "cartoon cinematographer"
David DeLaney
:eho...@onramp.net (E.Holmes) wrote:
:>tr...@world.std.com (Gardner S Trask) wrote:
:>/E Teflon Piano <rgrif...@UBmail.ubalt.edu> writes:
:>/>On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, Jay C Jachimiak wrote:
:>/>>moved easily into the real world (you've seen it on TV, or in the
:>/>>recent film "Toy Story"), but a real guy can't go into a cartoon
:>/>>world without becoming a cartoon character himself.
:>/>[...]
:>/>There is a considerable body of evidence to rebut this averment. See
:
:>/>"Cool World," "Who Framed Roger Rabbit," and "Magical Mystery Tour."
:
:>/E has noted some fine examples, but just to show this technology has
:>/exsisted quite a while, check out "Jack and the Beanstock" with Gene
:>/finest.
:
:> Actually I didn't go back far enough with M.Poppins. Probably no
:> one but me can remember it, but I believe "Song of the South" was
:> the first. Zippa de doodah zippa de a, my oh my what a wonderful
:> day. Not politically correct now & Disney won't run it; remains a
:> lost gem.
:
:I think the winner is Max Fleischer's "Koko the Clown", a series made
:in the early 20s. Fleischer was one of the great pioneers of animation
:- the creator of Betty Boop and Popeye the Sailor - and the only one
:to rival Disney in popularity in the 30s.
No no no no no. The very first instance of animation had a live-action
character interacting with the animated animal; does _nobody_ but self
remember Winsor McCay's "Gertie the Dinosaur" and Winsor's tour of the
USA showing her off to interested audiences? [They didn't have daytime
TV talk shows back then so he had to do it repeatedly in every majorly
populated area instead...] I have a picture of it so it Must Be True!!
Dave "Hey this justification seems to just pour out when necessary - o
drat" DeLaney
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Lizz Braver
>No no no no no. The very first instance of animation had a live-action
>character interacting with the animated animal; does _nobody_ but self
>remember Winsor McCay's "Gertie the Dinosaur" and Winsor's tour of the
>USA showing her off to interested audiences? [They didn't have daytime
>TV talk shows back then so he had to do it repeatedly in every majorly
>populated area instead...] I have a picture of it so it Must Be True!!
>
>Dave "Hey this justification seems to just pour out when necessary - o
> drat" DeLaney
>--
>
Well, I wasn't THERE, mind you, but I do have extensive documetation of
the Gertie tour, in this wonderul biography of Winsor McCay that my
husband gave me. It was my second best holiday present ever given me.
Lizz "And my very favorite present is even duller" Braver
Matt McIrvin
KiboL: Matron of Kibology <eho...@onramp.net> wrote:
> I just noticed, but McIrvin hasn't explained anything in *ages*.
> KL or EH or whatever
Sorry, these days I only explain things to the paying customers.
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